Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Jun 26, 2011, at 1:17 PM, august wrote:




Hans,

are the 'upstream' and 'pristine-tar' naming conventions of debian?
do you have branches for the tarballs?


These branches are Debian naming conventions that the git-buildpackage  
tools handle for you with tools like git-import-orig.



What is a pristine-tar ?


pristine-tar is a utility for regenerating the pristine tarball of the  
release. That's the purpose of the pristine-tar branch too.




I'd like to learn the packaging stuff, so I will try to go through
the process myself.  Maybe I can solicit your help every now and
then, if possible.


Yup, of course.  The Debian pkg-multimedia team is also a very good  
place to learn, get help, and find uploaders.  There is a reference  
wiki that I find useful too:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/DevelopPackaging


We need to think however about the versioning and the SONAME of the
.so files.  Any ideas on how this will (or should) work?  I have the
SONAME set to libpd.so.0 for now.  I think that fits.  If there are
ABI changes, we can up it to libpd.so.1


I think that makes sense.

.hc



-august.




Cool, I think this then means that libpd bindings for python, etc.
can be also packaged up.  Once this package is ready, I'm happy to
take it thru the Debian submission process via pkg-multimedia and
get it into Debian.  Or even better, you can easily do it yourself
via pkg-multimedia and start the process of becoming some kind of
Debianista (Debian Maintainer or Debian Developer).

One detail about which files go into which git repo: libpd.pc should
definitely be in the official libpd repo, but the debian/ files
generally should not.  They key part is to not include the debian/
files in the official tarball.  But packaging is much easier if the
upstream tarballs are imported and everything is done in the git-
buildpackage workflow with 'upstream' and 'pristine-tar' branches.

.hc

On Jun 24, 2011, at 6:27 PM, august wrote:




okay, here is a test package of the libpd git repo.

I think it would be safe to merge the Makefile and the libpd.pc into
upstream.

please have a look:

https://launchpad.net/~august-alien/+archive/ppa

best -august.




I suggest you stick to the central repository of libpd because
you can
expect it to be actively maintained and documented.  If other
repositories
contain material that you'd like to see in the main branch, you
can create a
merge request at Gitorious.
Cheers,
  Peter


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, august aug...@alien.mur.at  
wrote:





well, I just made my first PPA.  It's waiting to build on  
launchpad.


I have the Makefile copy pd.pc to libpd.pc.   libpd.pc is then
installed
instead of pd.pc

Not sure if I should be using the aalex repo or not.  What are the
differences?

I don't think the API needs to be fixed for this personal package.
...however, maybe for official submission to debian or ubuntu.


best -august.


I agree that we should provide a libpd.pc.  Let's aim to
fold this into

the

main branch of the libpd repository.  If the PPA ends up
using code from
aalex, let's merge that into the main branch as well.

A related question is whether this is the time to declare
the libpd API
finished, but that's a discussion that we should probably take to
pd-everywhere.
Cheers,
  Peter


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On 2011-06-22 05:47, august wrote:




Is there a version number for libpd?

I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd


just to chime in: please note that pd also provides a pd.pc.
i would highly suggest to provide a libpd.pc for libpd.

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Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-27 Thread august


Hans,

are the 'upstream' and 'pristine-tar' naming conventions of debian?
do you have branches for the tarballs?
What is a pristine-tar ?

I'd like to learn the packaging stuff, so I will try to go through
the process myself.  Maybe I can solicit your help every now and
then, if possible.

We need to think however about the versioning and the SONAME of the
.so files.  Any ideas on how this will (or should) work?  I have the
SONAME set to libpd.so.0 for now.  I think that fits.  If there are
ABI changes, we can up it to libpd.so.1

-august.



 Cool, I think this then means that libpd bindings for python, etc.
 can be also packaged up.  Once this package is ready, I'm happy to
 take it thru the Debian submission process via pkg-multimedia and
 get it into Debian.  Or even better, you can easily do it yourself
 via pkg-multimedia and start the process of becoming some kind of
 Debianista (Debian Maintainer or Debian Developer).
 
 One detail about which files go into which git repo: libpd.pc should
 definitely be in the official libpd repo, but the debian/ files
 generally should not.  They key part is to not include the debian/
 files in the official tarball.  But packaging is much easier if the
 upstream tarballs are imported and everything is done in the git-
 buildpackage workflow with 'upstream' and 'pristine-tar' branches.
 
 .hc
 
 On Jun 24, 2011, at 6:27 PM, august wrote:
 
 
 
 okay, here is a test package of the libpd git repo.
 
 I think it would be safe to merge the Makefile and the libpd.pc into
 upstream.
 
 please have a look:
 
  https://launchpad.net/~august-alien/+archive/ppa
 
 best -august.
 
 
 
 I suggest you stick to the central repository of libpd because
 you can
 expect it to be actively maintained and documented.  If other
 repositories
 contain material that you'd like to see in the main branch, you
 can create a
 merge request at Gitorious.
 Cheers,
 Peter
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, august aug...@alien.mur.at wrote:
 
 
 
 well, I just made my first PPA.  It's waiting to build on launchpad.
 
 I have the Makefile copy pd.pc to libpd.pc.   libpd.pc is then
 installed
 instead of pd.pc
 
 Not sure if I should be using the aalex repo or not.  What are the
 differences?
 
 I don't think the API needs to be fixed for this personal package.
 ...however, maybe for official submission to debian or ubuntu.
 
 
 best -august.
 
 I agree that we should provide a libpd.pc.  Let's aim to
 fold this into
 the
 main branch of the libpd repository.  If the PPA ends up
 using code from
 aalex, let's merge that into the main branch as well.
 
 A related question is whether this is the time to declare
 the libpd API
 finished, but that's a discussion that we should probably take to
 pd-everywhere.
 Cheers,
 Peter
 
 
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 Is there a version number for libpd?
 
 I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
 http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd
 
 just to chime in: please note that pd also provides a pd.pc.
 i would highly suggest to provide a libpd.pc for libpd.
 
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Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Cool, I think this then means that libpd bindings for python, etc. can  
be also packaged up.  Once this package is ready, I'm happy to take it  
thru the Debian submission process via pkg-multimedia and get it into  
Debian.  Or even better, you can easily do it yourself via pkg- 
multimedia and start the process of becoming some kind of Debianista  
(Debian Maintainer or Debian Developer).


One detail about which files go into which git repo: libpd.pc should  
definitely be in the official libpd repo, but the debian/ files  
generally should not.  They key part is to not include the debian/  
files in the official tarball.  But packaging is much easier if the  
upstream tarballs are imported and everything is done in the git- 
buildpackage workflow with 'upstream' and 'pristine-tar' branches.


.hc

On Jun 24, 2011, at 6:27 PM, august wrote:




okay, here is a test package of the libpd git repo.

I think it would be safe to merge the Makefile and the libpd.pc into
upstream.

please have a look:

https://launchpad.net/~august-alien/+archive/ppa

best -august.



I suggest you stick to the central repository of libpd because you  
can
expect it to be actively maintained and documented.  If other  
repositories
contain material that you'd like to see in the main branch, you can  
create a

merge request at Gitorious.
Cheers,
Peter


On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, august aug...@alien.mur.at wrote:




well, I just made my first PPA.  It's waiting to build on launchpad.

I have the Makefile copy pd.pc to libpd.pc.   libpd.pc is then  
installed

instead of pd.pc

Not sure if I should be using the aalex repo or not.  What are the
differences?

I don't think the API needs to be fixed for this personal package.
...however, maybe for official submission to debian or ubuntu.


best -august.

I agree that we should provide a libpd.pc.  Let's aim to fold  
this into

the
main branch of the libpd repository.  If the PPA ends up using  
code from

aalex, let's merge that into the main branch as well.

A related question is whether this is the time to declare the  
libpd API

finished, but that's a discussion that we should probably take to
pd-everywhere.
Cheers,
Peter


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On 2011-06-22 05:47, august wrote:




Is there a version number for libpd?

I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd


just to chime in: please note that pd also provides a pd.pc.
i would highly suggest to provide a libpd.pc for libpd.

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Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-24 Thread august


okay, here is a test package of the libpd git repo.

I think it would be safe to merge the Makefile and the libpd.pc into
upstream.

please have a look:

https://launchpad.net/~august-alien/+archive/ppa

best -august.



 I suggest you stick to the central repository of libpd because you can
 expect it to be actively maintained and documented.  If other repositories
 contain material that you'd like to see in the main branch, you can create a
 merge request at Gitorious.
 Cheers,
  Peter
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:38 PM, august aug...@alien.mur.at wrote:
 
 
 
  well, I just made my first PPA.  It's waiting to build on launchpad.
 
  I have the Makefile copy pd.pc to libpd.pc.   libpd.pc is then installed
  instead of pd.pc
 
  Not sure if I should be using the aalex repo or not.  What are the
  differences?
 
  I don't think the API needs to be fixed for this personal package.
  ...however, maybe for official submission to debian or ubuntu.
 
 
  best -august.
 
   I agree that we should provide a libpd.pc.  Let's aim to fold this into
  the
   main branch of the libpd repository.  If the PPA ends up using code from
   aalex, let's merge that into the main branch as well.
  
   A related question is whether this is the time to declare the libpd API
   finished, but that's a discussion that we should probably take to
   pd-everywhere.
   Cheers,
Peter
  
  
   On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:04 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
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On 2011-06-22 05:47, august wrote:



 Is there a version number for libpd?

 I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
 http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd

just to chime in: please note that pd also provides a pd.pc.
i would highly suggest to provide a libpd.pc for libpd.
   
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Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-23 Thread Peter Brinkmann
I suggest you stick to the central repository of libpd because you can
expect it to be actively maintained and documented.  If other repositories
contain material that you'd like to see in the main branch, you can create a
merge request at Gitorious.
Cheers,
 Peter


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 well, I just made my first PPA.  It's waiting to build on launchpad.

 I have the Makefile copy pd.pc to libpd.pc.   libpd.pc is then installed
 instead of pd.pc

 Not sure if I should be using the aalex repo or not.  What are the
 differences?

 I don't think the API needs to be fixed for this personal package.
 ...however, maybe for official submission to debian or ubuntu.


 best -august.

  I agree that we should provide a libpd.pc.  Let's aim to fold this into
 the
  main branch of the libpd repository.  If the PPA ends up using code from
  aalex, let's merge that into the main branch as well.
 
  A related question is whether this is the time to declare the libpd API
  finished, but that's a discussion that we should probably take to
  pd-everywhere.
  Cheers,
   Peter
 
 
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Is there a version number for libpd?
   
I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd
   
   just to chime in: please note that pd also provides a pd.pc.
   i would highly suggest to provide a libpd.pc for libpd.
  
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Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2011-06-22 05:47, august wrote:
 
 
 
 Is there a version number for libpd?
 
 I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
 http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd
 
just to chime in: please note that pd also provides a pd.pc.
i would highly suggest to provide a libpd.pc for libpd.

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Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-22 Thread Peter Brinkmann
I agree that we should provide a libpd.pc.  Let's aim to fold this into the
main branch of the libpd repository.  If the PPA ends up using code from
aalex, let's merge that into the main branch as well.

A related question is whether this is the time to declare the libpd API
finished, but that's a discussion that we should probably take to
pd-everywhere.
Cheers,
 Peter


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  Is there a version number for libpd?
 
  I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
  http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd
 
 just to chime in: please note that pd also provides a pd.pc.
 i would highly suggest to provide a libpd.pc for libpd.

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Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-22 Thread august


well, I just made my first PPA.  It's waiting to build on launchpad.

I have the Makefile copy pd.pc to libpd.pc.   libpd.pc is then installed
instead of pd.pc

Not sure if I should be using the aalex repo or not.  What are the
differences?  

I don't think the API needs to be fixed for this personal package.
...however, maybe for official submission to debian or ubuntu.


best -august.

 I agree that we should provide a libpd.pc.  Let's aim to fold this into the
 main branch of the libpd repository.  If the PPA ends up using code from
 aalex, let's merge that into the main branch as well.
 
 A related question is whether this is the time to declare the libpd API
 finished, but that's a discussion that we should probably take to
 pd-everywhere.
 Cheers,
  Peter
 
 
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   Is there a version number for libpd?
  
   I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
   http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd
  
  just to chime in: please note that pd also provides a pd.pc.
  i would highly suggest to provide a libpd.pc for libpd.
 
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[PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-21 Thread august


Has someone already made a PPA for libpd?

If not, I might have a go.


-august.


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Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I haven't seen one, I say go!

.hc

On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:26 PM, august wrote:




Has someone already made a PPA for libpd?

If not, I might have a go.


-august.
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Re: [PD] PPA for libpd?

2011-06-21 Thread august



Is there a version number for libpd?

I see you guys have added a pd.pc in
http://gitorious.org/~aalex/pdlib/aalexs-libpd


should I use pdlib git repo or aalexs repo?




 
 I haven't seen one, I say go!
 
 .hc
 
 On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:26 PM, august wrote:
 
 
 
 Has someone already made a PPA for libpd?
 
 If not, I might have a go.
 
 
  -august.


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