Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
Hallo, Dafydd Hughes hat gesagt: // Dafydd Hughes wrote: > Pd won 9-6, but several people pointed out that since there was only > one person on the MAX team and two on Pd, maybe the score should have > been 6-4.5 in MAX's favour. Before the final Pong match the score was > 4-2 for Pd. We then won Pong 5-4 and added the scores together. Congratulations! > We're already thinking of ways we could do it better next time and of > variations on the theme. Gem vs. PDP. Vanilla vs. extended. Pd vs. Emacs. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
Hi folks So the event was a success - lots of fun, good-natured competition, beer and general nonsense. Pd won 9-6, but several people pointed out that since there was only one person on the MAX team and two on Pd, maybe the score should have been 6-4.5 in MAX's favour. Before the final Pong match the score was 4-2 for Pd. We then won Pong 5-4 and added the scores together. Pd crashed once during the final challenge (building Pong, which neither team actually ended up doing - we both used the versions we'd built previously as we were running out of time). David composed a scathing error report to Apple. MAX forfeited on one challenge (make Nohands dance), also for time reasons. One really interesting thing is that both our host, Misha Glouberman and one blogger, Jordan, neither of whom had had any experience with patching, seemed to come away with the impression that Pd is much easier and more efficient to use than MAX. Pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/interaccess/ Video here: http://www.interaccess.org/blog/?p=743 A great blog post, pictures and video here: http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/anything-you-can-do-i-can-do-better-midi-software-duel-5 We're already thinking of ways we could do it better next time and of variations on the theme. cheers dafydd -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Dafydd Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Competitors: Frank Tsonis vs. Dafydd Hughes and David McCallum While I play for the Pd team, I find this rather unfair, 2 on 1. But on the other hand, most Max users I've met think that Max is twice as good so I guess that evens out. Go Daf and Dave! Now, should your Pd break for some reason, you can follow this lead (courtesy of Google's sponsored links, popped up next to your announcement): Fix Pd Try free download to repair Pd instantly! Filetonic.com I guess this should also put all the Pd troubles to rest and we can all concentrate on making art. cheers -- ./MiS ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
This sounds like all kinds of awesome. I second (third?) the call to document. BTW, us Max users dont just hate puppies. We eat them! And vote for McCain! WE ARE EVIL! I really hope people trash talk during the contest, Oh man, that would just be awesomely hysterical. On Jul 16, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Dafydd Hughes wrote: > Hey folks > > Just in case there are Pd users hanging about in or around Toronto > that I'm not in regular contact with who don't have anything to do > next Thursday night. This is bound to be loads of fun. All the > participants are really cool and funny people. > > - > Anything you can do (in Max), I can do better (in PD) > Date: Thursday, July 24, 8pm onwards > Cost: Free! Yes, FREE. > No need to register- come one, come all! > With Celebrity Guest Host Misha Glouberman > Competitors: Frank Tsonis vs. Dafydd Hughes and David McCallum > > Come take sides in this fight to the death between those open-source > PD Commies and the right-wing, proprietary, puppy-hating MAX/MSPers. > > There has been a long and bloody rivalry between those who would make > new media art with Pure Data, a free, open source graphical > programming language, and proponents of MAX/MSP, Pd's slick, > commercial half-brother. We intend to open these old wounds, pour > salt, beer and whatever else we can find into them, push both programs > and programmers to the brink of collapse and determine once and for > all which is better. > > Join host Misha Glouberman as he leads our contestants through a > series of increasingly difficult challenges with play-by-play > commentary by Nicholas Stedman and game show music with Graham > Collins. Watch as Frank Tsonis (team MAX) and David McCallum and > Dafydd Hughes (team Pd) try to come up with the fastest, sexiest and > most effective solutions, all the while fighting against each other, > the clock, and the inevitable nerds who think they can do it better. > > If you have experience with either of these programs (or if you don't) > and you think you can do better than our resident gurus, or even if > you just want to play along, feel free to bring a laptop, work on the > challenges, aid or abuse our contestants or just check your email. The > popcorn's on us; it's free to watch, participate, heckle, throw fruit, > and bet on who's gonna get an ass-beating. > > Information and downloads: > > Pure Data: http://puredata.info/ > MAX: http://www.cycling74.com/products/max5 > > Interaccess Electronic Media Arts Centre: http://interaccess.org/ > 9 Ossington Ave, Toronto ON Canada > Facebook event is here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=19191668235 > - > > cheers > dafydd > > -- > www.sideshowmedia.ca > skype: chickeninthegrass > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
Oh, definitely want to see a vid of this one. That would be great! On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Dafydd Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're the second person who's mentioned video or streaming. There's a > pretty good chance we'll record it - streaming is less likely. I'll > make sure I post links to whatever video we make. > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:50 PM, PSPunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi there. > > > > Sounds like a great event you've got going! > > I am all excited just imagining all the joy that may be there. > > > > Do you by any chance have plans to shoot video recordings and posting > them > > to hint us how it turns out? > > > > Just thought I'd ask in case no one in your crew had considered it.. > > > > > > Regards, > > -- > > David Shimamoto > > > > > >> Hey folks > >> > >> Just in case there are Pd users hanging about in or around Toronto > >> that I'm not in regular contact with who don't have anything to do > >> next Thursday night. This is bound to be loads of fun. All the > >> participants are really cool and funny people. > >> > >> - > >> Anything you can do (in Max), I can do better (in PD) > >> Date: Thursday, July 24, 8pm onwards > >> Cost: Free! Yes, FREE. > >> No need to register- come one, come all! > >> With Celebrity Guest Host Misha Glouberman > >> Competitors: Frank Tsonis vs. Dafydd Hughes and David McCallum > >> > >> Come take sides in this fight to the death between those open-source > >> PD Commies and the right-wing, proprietary, puppy-hating MAX/MSPers. > >> > >> There has been a long and bloody rivalry between those who would make > >> new media art with Pure Data, a free, open source graphical > >> programming language, and proponents of MAX/MSP, Pd's slick, > >> commercial half-brother. We intend to open these old wounds, pour > >> salt, beer and whatever else we can find into them, push both programs > >> and programmers to the brink of collapse and determine once and for > >> all which is better. > >> > >> Join host Misha Glouberman as he leads our contestants through a > >> series of increasingly difficult challenges with play-by-play > >> commentary by Nicholas Stedman and game show music with Graham > >> Collins. Watch as Frank Tsonis (team MAX) and David McCallum and > >> Dafydd Hughes (team Pd) try to come up with the fastest, sexiest and > >> most effective solutions, all the while fighting against each other, > >> the clock, and the inevitable nerds who think they can do it better. > >> > >> If you have experience with either of these programs (or if you don't) > >> and you think you can do better than our resident gurus, or even if > >> you just want to play along, feel free to bring a laptop, work on the > >> challenges, aid or abuse our contestants or just check your email. The > >> popcorn's on us; it's free to watch, participate, heckle, throw fruit, > >> and bet on who's gonna get an ass-beating. > >> > >> Information and downloads: > >> > >> Pure Data: http://puredata.info/ > >> MAX: http://www.cycling74.com/products/max5 > >> > >> Interaccess Electronic Media Arts Centre: http://interaccess.org/ > >> 9 Ossington Ave, Toronto ON Canada > >> Facebook event is here: > http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=19191668235 > >> - > >> > >> cheers > >> dafydd > >> > > > > > > > > -- > www.sideshowmedia.ca > skype: chickeninthegrass > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Mathieu Bouchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, how is the Pd community in Toronto nowadays? Ask me again next Friday. -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
You're the second person who's mentioned video or streaming. There's a pretty good chance we'll record it - streaming is less likely. I'll make sure I post links to whatever video we make. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:50 PM, PSPunch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there. > > Sounds like a great event you've got going! > I am all excited just imagining all the joy that may be there. > > Do you by any chance have plans to shoot video recordings and posting them > to hint us how it turns out? > > Just thought I'd ask in case no one in your crew had considered it.. > > > Regards, > -- > David Shimamoto > > >> Hey folks >> >> Just in case there are Pd users hanging about in or around Toronto >> that I'm not in regular contact with who don't have anything to do >> next Thursday night. This is bound to be loads of fun. All the >> participants are really cool and funny people. >> >> - >> Anything you can do (in Max), I can do better (in PD) >> Date: Thursday, July 24, 8pm onwards >> Cost: Free! Yes, FREE. >> No need to register- come one, come all! >> With Celebrity Guest Host Misha Glouberman >> Competitors: Frank Tsonis vs. Dafydd Hughes and David McCallum >> >> Come take sides in this fight to the death between those open-source >> PD Commies and the right-wing, proprietary, puppy-hating MAX/MSPers. >> >> There has been a long and bloody rivalry between those who would make >> new media art with Pure Data, a free, open source graphical >> programming language, and proponents of MAX/MSP, Pd's slick, >> commercial half-brother. We intend to open these old wounds, pour >> salt, beer and whatever else we can find into them, push both programs >> and programmers to the brink of collapse and determine once and for >> all which is better. >> >> Join host Misha Glouberman as he leads our contestants through a >> series of increasingly difficult challenges with play-by-play >> commentary by Nicholas Stedman and game show music with Graham >> Collins. Watch as Frank Tsonis (team MAX) and David McCallum and >> Dafydd Hughes (team Pd) try to come up with the fastest, sexiest and >> most effective solutions, all the while fighting against each other, >> the clock, and the inevitable nerds who think they can do it better. >> >> If you have experience with either of these programs (or if you don't) >> and you think you can do better than our resident gurus, or even if >> you just want to play along, feel free to bring a laptop, work on the >> challenges, aid or abuse our contestants or just check your email. The >> popcorn's on us; it's free to watch, participate, heckle, throw fruit, >> and bet on who's gonna get an ass-beating. >> >> Information and downloads: >> >> Pure Data: http://puredata.info/ >> MAX: http://www.cycling74.com/products/max5 >> >> Interaccess Electronic Media Arts Centre: http://interaccess.org/ >> 9 Ossington Ave, Toronto ON Canada >> Facebook event is here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=19191668235 >> - >> >> cheers >> dafydd >> > > -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday
Hey folks Just in case there are Pd users hanging about in or around Toronto that I'm not in regular contact with who don't have anything to do next Thursday night. This is bound to be loads of fun. All the participants are really cool and funny people. - Anything you can do (in Max), I can do better (in PD) Date: Thursday, July 24, 8pm onwards Cost: Free! Yes, FREE. No need to register- come one, come all! With Celebrity Guest Host Misha Glouberman Competitors: Frank Tsonis vs. Dafydd Hughes and David McCallum Come take sides in this fight to the death between those open-source PD Commies and the right-wing, proprietary, puppy-hating MAX/MSPers. There has been a long and bloody rivalry between those who would make new media art with Pure Data, a free, open source graphical programming language, and proponents of MAX/MSP, Pd's slick, commercial half-brother. We intend to open these old wounds, pour salt, beer and whatever else we can find into them, push both programs and programmers to the brink of collapse and determine once and for all which is better. Join host Misha Glouberman as he leads our contestants through a series of increasingly difficult challenges with play-by-play commentary by Nicholas Stedman and game show music with Graham Collins. Watch as Frank Tsonis (team MAX) and David McCallum and Dafydd Hughes (team Pd) try to come up with the fastest, sexiest and most effective solutions, all the while fighting against each other, the clock, and the inevitable nerds who think they can do it better. If you have experience with either of these programs (or if you don't) and you think you can do better than our resident gurus, or even if you just want to play along, feel free to bring a laptop, work on the challenges, aid or abuse our contestants or just check your email. The popcorn's on us; it's free to watch, participate, heckle, throw fruit, and bet on who's gonna get an ass-beating. Information and downloads: Pure Data: http://puredata.info/ MAX: http://www.cycling74.com/products/max5 Interaccess Electronic Media Arts Centre: http://interaccess.org/ 9 Ossington Ave, Toronto ON Canada Facebook event is here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=19191668235 - cheers dafydd -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
