Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
seems to work. testing the castilian version now for a workshop next week in valencia. thanks a lot! say hi to r. and j. max El 03.02.2012, a las 04:10, Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió: Ok, I tried another way to fix it, try tomorrow's build and let me know. Hopefully we can keep tclpd loaded by default. http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=15940 .hc On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Max wrote: Excellent! that worked, the patch opens and is actually there in a window. Am 02.02.2012 um 03:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: About the Pt_Start() crash, that seems to be related to tclpd, from my experience. Try this and see if it makes it go away: sudo rm -rf \ /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120201.app/Contents/Resources/startup/tclpd Magic glass is great, I am bummed it languished for so long, I think Joe Sarlo wrote that in 2003. Then Ico revived it and ported it to 0.42 in pd-l2ork, and I took it from there. .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 20:34 +0100, Max wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
hans, on W-XP (Pentium 4) in the build of 31.01 with a Gem patch i get Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library Program ...pd.exe abnormal program termination after installing Gem 93.3 everything is ok. rolf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
Some people in Valencia might appreciate a complete Catalan translation more, just to bring up Spanish language politics ;) .hc On Fri, 2012-02-03 at 13:07 +0100, Max wrote: seems to work. testing the castilian version now for a workshop next week in valencia. thanks a lot! say hi to r. and j. max El 03.02.2012, a las 04:10, Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió: Ok, I tried another way to fix it, try tomorrow's build and let me know. Hopefully we can keep tclpd loaded by default. http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=15940 .hc On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Max wrote: Excellent! that worked, the patch opens and is actually there in a window. Am 02.02.2012 um 03:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: About the Pt_Start() crash, that seems to be related to tclpd, from my experience. Try this and see if it makes it go away: sudo rm -rf \ /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120201.app/Contents/Resources/startup/tclpd Magic glass is great, I am bummed it languished for so long, I think Joe Sarlo wrote that in 2003. Then Ico revived it and ported it to 0.42 in pd-l2ork, and I took it from there. .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 20:34 +0100, Max wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-02 03:35, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 23:17 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 23:15 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc Just wanted to point out that the package for wheezy (i386) has an unmet dependency: x-ttcidfont-conf After googling a bit it appears it has been removed.. http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/x-ttcidfont-conf.html That package is there for Gem, as far as I know. Do any Gem people know if we still need that package? i don't know about this package. i even had to look up, what it is supposed to do. it's definitely not a thing that Gem depends on (in a sense, that Gem itself could make use of it) the only dependency of Gem that is related to fonts is ftgl, everything else (including a font package that provides a _default_ font for Gem text rendering) should never ever be a hard dependency. so from my side, feel free to remove the dependency on this package. mfvgasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8qTOcACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSTcACfWOO0bR7vDDbbONs8d8/wmt9J 3rMAn28W4jD7MLtu7DRiF1e6PZWE0VVL =hVTM -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
Excellent! that worked, the patch opens and is actually there in a window. Am 02.02.2012 um 03:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: About the Pt_Start() crash, that seems to be related to tclpd, from my experience. Try this and see if it makes it go away: sudo rm -rf \ /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120201.app/Contents/Resources/startup/tclpd Magic glass is great, I am bummed it languished for so long, I think Joe Sarlo wrote that in 2003. Then Ico revived it and ported it to 0.42 in pd-l2ork, and I took it from there. .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 20:34 +0100, Max wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
To be precise, you can copy everything from the console as you would expect but the errors which have a red font and background. Am 02.02.2012 um 03:32 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Hey mark, That sounds like a bug to me, please file :) .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 15:07 -0500, m.e.grimm wrote: hey max (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) im not sure if that a bug or what. i can copy/paste from pd window only with keycommands apple-c (copy) and apple-v(paste) NOT from menu, right click, etc.. I just noticed this earlier today myself m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAk8pk64ACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6LTrgCcD +VAEgUqPRG88mU7Yn74MC6v c74Ani3fJmX7hkKj0HHJjTFo9b7OFarA =Z3xG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
You can actually copy and paste the red-background text, the bug is actually that the selection doesn't show up. .hc On Thu, 2012-02-02 at 10:46 +0100, Max wrote: To be precise, you can copy everything from the console as you would expect but the errors which have a red font and background. Am 02.02.2012 um 03:32 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: Hey mark, That sounds like a bug to me, please file :) .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 15:07 -0500, m.e.grimm wrote: hey max (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) im not sure if that a bug or what. i can copy/paste from pd window only with keycommands apple-c (copy) and apple-v(paste) NOT from menu, right click, etc.. I just noticed this earlier today myself m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAk8pk64ACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6LTrgCcD +VAEgUqPRG88mU7Yn74MC6v c74Ani3fJmX7hkKj0HHJjTFo9b7OFarA =Z3xG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
Ok, I tried another way to fix it, try tomorrow's build and let me know. Hopefully we can keep tclpd loaded by default. http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=15940 .hc On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:44 AM, Max wrote: Excellent! that worked, the patch opens and is actually there in a window. Am 02.02.2012 um 03:39 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: About the Pt_Start() crash, that seems to be related to tclpd, from my experience. Try this and see if it makes it go away: sudo rm -rf \ /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120201.app/Contents/Resources/startup/tclpd Magic glass is great, I am bummed it languished for so long, I think Joe Sarlo wrote that in 2003. Then Ico revived it and ported it to 0.42 in pd-l2ork, and I took it from there. .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 20:34 +0100, Max wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:44 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-02 03:35, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 23:17 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 23:15 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc Just wanted to point out that the package for wheezy (i386) has an unmet dependency: x-ttcidfont-conf After googling a bit it appears it has been removed.. http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/x-ttcidfont-conf.html That package is there for Gem, as far as I know. Do any Gem people know if we still need that package? i don't know about this package. i even had to look up, what it is supposed to do. it's definitely not a thing that Gem depends on (in a sense, that Gem itself could make use of it) the only dependency of Gem that is related to fonts is ftgl, everything else (including a font package that provides a _default_ font for Gem text rendering) should never ever be a hard dependency. so from my side, feel free to remove the dependency on this package. My memory might have failed me, it might have been for font handling for Pd itself. In any case, I've switched it to Recommends: .hc We have nothing to fear from love and commitment. - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
hey Hans, I am just wondering. As far as all the help patches go in extended, especially for teaching purposes and also out of the box, are we planning on implementing [import] in all patches in final release? Many (most) help patches get .. couldn't create out of the box from PD help browser. And I agree with the whole using [import], [declare], [ggee/shell], etc thing to load libraries rather than the old plist way but then im sure your aware all the help patches will need to load these libraries just thought I would ask what the plan is on that... Cheers m On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
- Original Message - From: m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds hey Hans, I am just wondering. As far as all the help patches go in extended, especially for teaching purposes and also out of the box, are we planning on implementing [import] in all patches in final release? Many (most) help patches get .. couldn't create out of the box from PD help browser. All objects in the help patches I sampled from the doc browser got created correctly on Debian Wheezy 64-bit. (Tried patches from cyclone, mapping, and several other libs.) Which help patches give you these errors, and on which OS? And I agree with the whole using [import], [declare], [ggee/shell], etc thing to load libraries rather than the old plist way but then im sure your aware all the help patches will need to load these libraries just thought I would ask what the plan is on that... Libdir help patches don't need any changes since they are located in the same directory as the binaries for the classes they reference. References to objects in other libraries are made with the pddp/helplink object in the form of [pddp/helplink lib/objectname]. There may be stray externals in some supplementary help patches like tutorials in the form [objectname]. -Jonathan Cheers m On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
Bug: scrollbars appear before they need to. Help patch for [float] has scrollbars, but in the last version of Pd-extended the same patch didn't get scrollbars. -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:15 PM Subject: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
ok... maybe i spoke to fast regarding many/most sorry. im on osx and i think i was specifically talking about Gem help patches witch i forgot to mention. so yes... many/most Gem help patches cant create object out of the box some in some other libs too... sfruit, zexy (needs [import hexloader]?, some others m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds hey Hans, I am just wondering. As far as all the help patches go in extended, especially for teaching purposes and also out of the box, are we planning on implementing [import] in all patches in final release? Many (most) help patches get .. couldn't create out of the box from PD help browser. All objects in the help patches I sampled from the doc browser got created correctly on Debian Wheezy 64-bit. (Tried patches from cyclone, mapping, and several other libs.) Which help patches give you these errors, and on which OS? And I agree with the whole using [import], [declare], [ggee/shell], etc thing to load libraries rather than the old plist way but then im sure your aware all the help patches will need to load these libraries just thought I would ask what the plan is on that... Libdir help patches don't need any changes since they are located in the same directory as the binaries for the classes they reference. References to objects in other libraries are made with the pddp/helplink object in the form of [pddp/helplink lib/objectname]. There may be stray externals in some supplementary help patches like tutorials in the form [objectname]. -Jonathan Cheers m On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
This happens often on Mac OS X because the [pd META] subpatch gets obscured by the little handle for resizing. I'm thinking we can just write a script that'll move the [pd META] subpatch a couple pixels up and to the left, and it'll fix it everywhere. I'm happy to write that script. My experience with the scrolling logic is that is takes a ton of testing to make even small changes to it because there are so many edge cases that can be horribly affected. .hc On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Bug: scrollbars appear before they need to. Help patch for [float] has scrollbars, but in the last version of Pd-extended the same patch didn't get scrollbars. -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:15 PM Subject: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
When you get a couldn't create in a help patch, that's a bug that should be filed in the tracker. Even better, attach the fixed help patch. .hc On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:01 AM, m.e.grimm wrote: ok... maybe i spoke to fast regarding many/most sorry. im on osx and i think i was specifically talking about Gem help patches witch i forgot to mention. so yes... many/most Gem help patches cant create object out of the box some in some other libs too... sfruit, zexy (needs [import hexloader]?, some others m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds hey Hans, I am just wondering. As far as all the help patches go in extended, especially for teaching purposes and also out of the box, are we planning on implementing [import] in all patches in final release? Many (most) help patches get .. couldn't create out of the box from PD help browser. All objects in the help patches I sampled from the doc browser got created correctly on Debian Wheezy 64-bit. (Tried patches from cyclone, mapping, and several other libs.) Which help patches give you these errors, and on which OS? And I agree with the whole using [import], [declare], [ggee/shell], etc thing to load libraries rather than the old plist way but then im sure your aware all the help patches will need to load these libraries just thought I would ask what the plan is on that... Libdir help patches don't need any changes since they are located in the same directory as the binaries for the classes they reference. References to objects in other libraries are made with the pddp/helplink object in the form of [pddp/helplink lib/objectname]. There may be stray externals in some supplementary help patches like tutorials in the form [objectname]. -Jonathan Cheers m On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find:Hi Hans,i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patchon os x sometimes only this message appears:(i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot)then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue.you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang.then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file.i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect)problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :(and there is a minor translation bug:all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable onesother than this:thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass.m. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
hey max (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) im not sure if that a bug or what. i can copy/paste from pd window only with keycommands apple-c (copy) and apple-v(paste) NOT from menu, right click, etc.. I just noticed this earlier today myself m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAk8pk64ACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6LTrgCcD+VAEgUqPRG88mU7Yn74MC6v c74Ani3fJmX7hkKj0HHJjTFo9b7OFarA =Z3xG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 23:15 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc Just wanted to point out that the package for wheezy (i386) has an unmet dependency: x-ttcidfont-conf After googling a bit it appears it has been removed.. http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/x-ttcidfont-conf.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
Hey mark, That sounds like a bug to me, please file :) .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 15:07 -0500, m.e.grimm wrote: hey max (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) im not sure if that a bug or what. i can copy/paste from pd window only with keycommands apple-c (copy) and apple-v(paste) NOT from menu, right click, etc.. I just noticed this earlier today myself m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAk8pk64ACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6LTrgCcD +VAEgUqPRG88mU7Yn74MC6v c74Ani3fJmX7hkKj0HHJjTFo9b7OFarA =Z3xG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 23:17 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 23:15 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc Just wanted to point out that the package for wheezy (i386) has an unmet dependency: x-ttcidfont-conf After googling a bit it appears it has been removed.. http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/x-ttcidfont-conf.html That package is there for Gem, as far as I know. Do any Gem people know if we still need that package? Looking at the Debian info, it seems that this is likely temporary. All the Ubuntu releases currently include it, for example. .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
About the Pt_Start() crash, that seems to be related to tclpd, from my experience. Try this and see if it makes it go away: sudo rm -rf \ /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120201.app/Contents/Resources/startup/tclpd Magic glass is great, I am bummed it languished for so long, I think Joe Sarlo wrote that in 2003. Then Ico revived it and ported it to 0.42 in pd-l2ork, and I took it from there. .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 20:34 +0100, Max wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
