Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-07 Thread Miller Puckette
Yeah... I don't remember what date my system had been updated to, but I had
it working fine.  Then, spontaneously a few days ago, that system stopped
booting.  I just threw on a new image, but now I'm getting total USB failure
when set to 1.1 (and still audio input not working when in USB 2.0).

I might end up deciding to try to get the old image patched up somehow...
but am working on Pd bugs right now so will need to put that off till 0.44
comes out.

cheers
Miller

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 01:23:21PM -0500, me.grimm wrote:
> yeah i was having the same trouble the couple times i tried this a month or
> so ago. no USB devices. did you have it work for you miller on prior
> raspbian image?  i remember having to mount the sd card on m laptop to
> remove that cmdtxt line to get my keyboard/mouse back but then gave up on
> the whole usb 1.1 speed thing.
> 
> m
> 
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:
> 
> > ... and I just tried to do the USB slowdown trick again with a newer
> > install
> > and it... fails to upen any USB devices at all!  So we're not out of the
> > woods yet after all.
> >
> > cheers
> > M
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 11:37:06AM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
> > > Hi Miller,
> > >
> > > Thank for your reply. This is the thread that made me ask for an update
> > > here.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Pierre.
> > >
> > > 2012/12/6 Miller Puckette 
> > >
> > > > Hi all -
> > > >
> > > > Here's the thread:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=19155&p=218405#p218405
> > > >
> > > > ... and the upshot is you have to slow USB down to 1.1 (instead of the
> > > > default
> > > > 2.0) to get correct audio input.
> > > >
> > > > The version of Pd I've uploaded (
> > http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html)
> > > > is much newer than the stock one that apt-get installs; OTOH the
> > apt-get
> > > > one is Pd extended and mine is only vanilla.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > Miller
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:28:33AM -0500, me.grimm wrote:
> > > > > >>I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get audio
> > in
> > > > > working,
> > > > >
> > > > > wheres the thread?
> > > > >
> > > > > >> I would also like to know if anybody has some feedback to give
> > about
> > > > > audio in,
> > > > >
> > > > > it still sounds like shit on my end. what hardware are you using? i
> > see
> > > > > there has been some improvements on the USB drivers recently. maybe
> > that
> > > > > will be fixed soon and the issues with audio in will improve?
> > > > >
> > > > > i would also like to know if anyone has it working well... been a
> > while
> > > > > since these pi threads were started on this list a few months back.
> > maybe
> > > > > someone has made head way...
> > > > >
> > > > > m
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Pierre Massat 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear list,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on
> > the RPi
> > > > > > lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the
> > RPi.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to know in which respects it is different from the
> > vanilla
> > > > > > version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also
> > like to
> > > > > > know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and
> > specially
> > > > > > about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room
> > for
> > > > > > improvement or not).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pierre.
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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-07 Thread me.grimm
yeah i was having the same trouble the couple times i tried this a month or
so ago. no USB devices. did you have it work for you miller on prior
raspbian image?  i remember having to mount the sd card on m laptop to
remove that cmdtxt line to get my keyboard/mouse back but then gave up on
the whole usb 1.1 speed thing.

m

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Miller Puckette  wrote:

> ... and I just tried to do the USB slowdown trick again with a newer
> install
> and it... fails to upen any USB devices at all!  So we're not out of the
> woods yet after all.
>
> cheers
> M
>
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 11:37:06AM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
> > Hi Miller,
> >
> > Thank for your reply. This is the thread that made me ask for an update
> > here.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Pierre.
> >
> > 2012/12/6 Miller Puckette 
> >
> > > Hi all -
> > >
> > > Here's the thread:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=19155&p=218405#p218405
> > >
> > > ... and the upshot is you have to slow USB down to 1.1 (instead of the
> > > default
> > > 2.0) to get correct audio input.
> > >
> > > The version of Pd I've uploaded (
> http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html)
> > > is much newer than the stock one that apt-get installs; OTOH the
> apt-get
> > > one is Pd extended and mine is only vanilla.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Miller
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:28:33AM -0500, me.grimm wrote:
> > > > >>I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get audio
> in
> > > > working,
> > > >
> > > > wheres the thread?
> > > >
> > > > >> I would also like to know if anybody has some feedback to give
> about
> > > > audio in,
> > > >
> > > > it still sounds like shit on my end. what hardware are you using? i
> see
> > > > there has been some improvements on the USB drivers recently. maybe
> that
> > > > will be fixed soon and the issues with audio in will improve?
> > > >
> > > > i would also like to know if anyone has it working well... been a
> while
> > > > since these pi threads were started on this list a few months back.
> maybe
> > > > someone has made head way...
> > > >
> > > > m
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Pierre Massat 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear list,
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on
> the RPi
> > > > > lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt
> to
> > > get
> > > > > audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the
> RPi.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to know in which respects it is different from the
> vanilla
> > > > > version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also
> like to
> > > > > know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and
> specially
> > > > > about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room
> for
> > > > > improvement or not).
> > > > >
> > > > > In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre.
> > > > >
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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-07 Thread Miller Puckette
... and I just tried to do the USB slowdown trick again with a newer install
and it... fails to upen any USB devices at all!  So we're not out of the
woods yet after all.

cheers
M

On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 11:37:06AM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
> Hi Miller,
> 
> Thank for your reply. This is the thread that made me ask for an update
> here.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Pierre.
> 
> 2012/12/6 Miller Puckette 
> 
> > Hi all -
> >
> > Here's the thread:
> >
> >
> > http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=19155&p=218405#p218405
> >
> > ... and the upshot is you have to slow USB down to 1.1 (instead of the
> > default
> > 2.0) to get correct audio input.
> >
> > The version of Pd I've uploaded (http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html)
> > is much newer than the stock one that apt-get installs; OTOH the apt-get
> > one is Pd extended and mine is only vanilla.
> >
> > cheers
> > Miller
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:28:33AM -0500, me.grimm wrote:
> > > >>I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get audio in
> > > working,
> > >
> > > wheres the thread?
> > >
> > > >> I would also like to know if anybody has some feedback to give about
> > > audio in,
> > >
> > > it still sounds like shit on my end. what hardware are you using? i see
> > > there has been some improvements on the USB drivers recently. maybe that
> > > will be fixed soon and the issues with audio in will improve?
> > >
> > > i would also like to know if anyone has it working well... been a while
> > > since these pi threads were started on this list a few months back. maybe
> > > someone has made head way...
> > >
> > > m
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Pierre Massat 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear list,
> > > >
> > > > I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on the RPi
> > > > lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to
> > get
> > > > audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the RPi.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to know in which respects it is different from the vanilla
> > > > version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also like to
> > > > know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and specially
> > > > about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room for
> > > > improvement or not).
> > > >
> > > > In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Pierre.
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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-07 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi Miller,

Thank for your reply. This is the thread that made me ask for an update
here.

Cheers,

Pierre.

2012/12/6 Miller Puckette 

> Hi all -
>
> Here's the thread:
>
>
> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=19155&p=218405#p218405
>
> ... and the upshot is you have to slow USB down to 1.1 (instead of the
> default
> 2.0) to get correct audio input.
>
> The version of Pd I've uploaded (http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html)
> is much newer than the stock one that apt-get installs; OTOH the apt-get
> one is Pd extended and mine is only vanilla.
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:28:33AM -0500, me.grimm wrote:
> > >>I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get audio in
> > working,
> >
> > wheres the thread?
> >
> > >> I would also like to know if anybody has some feedback to give about
> > audio in,
> >
> > it still sounds like shit on my end. what hardware are you using? i see
> > there has been some improvements on the USB drivers recently. maybe that
> > will be fixed soon and the issues with audio in will improve?
> >
> > i would also like to know if anyone has it working well... been a while
> > since these pi threads were started on this list a few months back. maybe
> > someone has made head way...
> >
> > m
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Pierre Massat 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear list,
> > >
> > > I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on the RPi
> > > lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to
> get
> > > audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the RPi.
> > >
> > > I would like to know in which respects it is different from the vanilla
> > > version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also like to
> > > know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and specially
> > > about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room for
> > > improvement or not).
> > >
> > > In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Pierre.
> > >
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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-06 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi all -

Here's the thread:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=19155&p=218405#p218405

... and the upshot is you have to slow USB down to 1.1 (instead of the default
2.0) to get correct audio input.

The version of Pd I've uploaded (http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html)
is much newer than the stock one that apt-get installs; OTOH the apt-get
one is Pd extended and mine is only vanilla.

cheers
Miller

On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:28:33AM -0500, me.grimm wrote:
> >>I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get audio in
> working,
> 
> wheres the thread?
> 
> >> I would also like to know if anybody has some feedback to give about
> audio in,
> 
> it still sounds like shit on my end. what hardware are you using? i see
> there has been some improvements on the USB drivers recently. maybe that
> will be fixed soon and the issues with audio in will improve?
> 
> i would also like to know if anyone has it working well... been a while
> since these pi threads were started on this list a few months back. maybe
> someone has made head way...
> 
> m
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Pierre Massat  wrote:
> 
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on the RPi
> > lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get
> > audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the RPi.
> >
> > I would like to know in which respects it is different from the vanilla
> > version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also like to
> > know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and specially
> > about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room for
> > improvement or not).
> >
> > In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Pierre.
> >
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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-06 Thread me.grimm
>>I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get audio in
working,

wheres the thread?

>> I would also like to know if anybody has some feedback to give about
audio in,

it still sounds like shit on my end. what hardware are you using? i see
there has been some improvements on the USB drivers recently. maybe that
will be fixed soon and the issues with audio in will improve?

i would also like to know if anyone has it working well... been a while
since these pi threads were started on this list a few months back. maybe
someone has made head way...

m



On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Pierre Massat  wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on the RPi
> lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get
> audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the RPi.
>
> I would like to know in which respects it is different from the vanilla
> version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also like to
> know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and specially
> about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room for
> improvement or not).
>
> In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pierre.
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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-06 Thread me.grimm
afaik gem needs to be ported to opengl-es to run on the pi. there's a
thread on this topic and i think the port has been done?

http://www.mail-archive.com/gem-dev@iem.at/msg01930.html

here are some specs.

http://elinux.org/RPi_VideoCore_APIs#OpenGL_ES

johannes would know mare obviously


m

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Johnny Mauser
wrote:

> Interesting question.
> In addition i am very interested in using GEM on Rpi. Is that possible?
>
> Best
>
> -j-
> Am 06.12.2012 12:09 schrieb "Pierre Massat" :
>
> >
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on the RPi
> lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get
> audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the RPi.
> >
> > I would like to know in which respects it is different from the vanilla
> version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also like to
> know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and specially
> about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room for
> improvement or not).
> >
> > In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Pierre.
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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-06 Thread Johnny Mauser
Interesting question.
In addition i am very interested in using GEM on Rpi. Is that possible?

Best

-j-
Am 06.12.2012 12:09 schrieb "Pierre Massat" :
>
> Dear list,
>
> I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on the RPi
lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get
audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the RPi.
>
> I would like to know in which respects it is different from the vanilla
version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also like to
know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and specially
about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room for
improvement or not).
>
> In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pierre.
>
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[PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-06 Thread Pierre Massat
Dear list,

I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on the RPi
lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get
audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the RPi.

I would like to know in which respects it is different from the vanilla
version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also like to
know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and specially
about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room for
improvement or not).

In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?

Cheers,

Pierre.
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