Re: [PD] Thanks and now for something else!
Hallo, Timothy Sikes hat gesagt: // Timothy Sikes wrote: First of all, I want to thank everyone for the tremendous help you guys gave me to start PD a day or two ago. I think parts of PD have finally started to sink in. Whoever told me not to think of PD so procedurally, or orderly, really helped. Right now, I am getting the benefits of my labor by listening to a loop that goes from midi sound 50 -100 then loops again... and again. Alright, now for the stuff I don't get! So, my next project I would like to tackle to better understand PD is to have it play a simple midi C scale. Just send 60, 62, 64, 65, 67, 69, 71, 72 to [mtof]. Or better yet, send 0,2,4,5,7,9,11,12 to [+ 60]. You may want to search Google for Peter Elsea's Max tutorials on pitch (and rhythm and chords later, too) (e.g. ftp://arts.ucsc.edu/pub/ems/maxtutors/) Some of the things that I want to understand better is the 'select' object, and what happens when an outlet is connected to it, how to use the equality (, =) symbols accurately, and how they work in PD. I have already looked at the examples that came with it, and they just confused me: When I took them out at started it over, it seemed to work just fine. This is the 'more counting' one, and when I remove the = 0 boxes, it still works, plus they're not really explained at all.Thanks again! [] and so on work by sending either 0 for false and 1 for true comparisons. [ 10] compares to 10. You can overwrite the stored 10 through the second inlet. Select converts selected messages to bang-messages. [select 0 1] can be used to convert a 0-message to a bang at the first outlet and a 1 to a bang at the second outlet. [select] and a comparison together form a kind of if-else-conditional: if (x 10) then do bang1 else do bang2 end in Pd would be: float x | [ 10] | [select 1 0] | | | bang2 bang1 Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Thanks and now for something else!
I would suggest you check out Composing Interactive Musichttp://www.amazon.com/Composing-Interactive-Music-Techniques-Ideas/dp/0262731398by Todd Winkler which covers using MAX to do lots of fun stuff with midi. Naturally, you can implement most of the examples in PD. I bought this book and went through the whole thing, making the example patches as I went. If you want more of the technical bones behind this stuff, I'd also recommend Machine Musicianshiphttp://www.amazon.com/Machine-Musicianship-Robert-Rowe/dp/0262681498/ref=pd_sim_b_title_4/102-4863673-2463332 by Karl Rowe. Although it is getting a bit dated (includes a cdrom with MAX patches for OS 9 :P), it really helped me a good grasp on how I could use midi in pd to do what I wanted. Anyway, those are two books that got me going in pd. Shoot, there is enough experience on this list to write better books then these focusing on pd! Hallo, Timothy Sikes hat gesagt: // Timothy Sikes wrote: First of all, I want to thank everyone for the tremendous help you guys gave me to start PD a day or two ago. I think parts of PD have finally started to sink in. Whoever told me not to think of PD so procedurally, or orderly, really helped. Right now, I am getting the benefits of my labor by listening to a loop that goes from midi sound 50 -100 then loops again... and again. Alright, now for the stuff I don't get! So, my next project I would like to tackle to better understand PD is to have it play a simple midi C scale. Some of the things that I want to understand better is the 'select' object, and what happens when an outlet is connected to it, how to use the equality (, =) symbols accurately, and how they work in PD. I have already looked at the examples that came with it, and they just confused me: When I took them out at started it over, it seemed to work just fine. This is the 'more counting' one, and when I remove the = 0 boxes, it still works, plus they're not really explained at all.Thanks again! -- Dan Wilcox danomatika www.robotcowboy.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
