Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
On 2010-04-24 12:02, Peter Plessas wrote: mfg.adsr P what does mfg.adsr stand for? mgbarta IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
mfg = mit freundlichen Grüssen (german lingo) adsr = envelope or in german da habe ich dich aber schön eingewickelt just a guess Jurgen On Apr 26, 2010, at 3:00 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-04-24 12:02, Peter Plessas wrote: mfg.adsr P what does mfg.adsr stand for? mgbarta IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
This is getting OT, but here is a nice aspect of the pd mailing list: wget http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list.mbox/pd-list.mbox grep -v iem.at pd-list.mbox | grep -B 1 IOhannes | grep ^mfg mfg.txt See: http://plessas.mur.at/mfg.txt Just need someone to recite this poem... sorry for OT again, P jurgen wrote: mfg = mit freundlichen Grüssen (german lingo) adsr = envelope or in german da habe ich dich aber schön eingewickelt just a guess Jurgen On Apr 26, 2010, at 3:00 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-04-24 12:02, Peter Plessas wrote: mfg.adsr P what does mfg.adsr stand for? mgbarta IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
I've made an hybrid with the gem vu-meter and the v-slider mouse bindings, by adding a background image it looks like a decent little mixer track img src=http://megalego.free.fr/pd/Gem/HA_Mixer/gem_fader.jpg; / http://megalego.free.fr/pd/Gem/HA_Mixer/HA_fader.zip now it just need to display correct db values the vu-meter answers perfectly, the signal peaks when the it reaches red rectangle thanks for sharing ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: I've made an hybrid with the gem vu-meter and the v-slider mouse bindings, by adding a background image it looks like a decent little mixer track img src=http://megalego.free.fr/pd/Gem/HA_Mixer/gem_fader.jpg; / http://megalego.free.fr/pd/Gem/HA_Mixer/HA_fader.zip now it just need to display correct db values gem_vu ist designed to be used with the prvu~ abstraction (Musil, IEMabs). This abstraction outputs a list with peak and rms values. The peak value gets displayed as the number in gem_vu as well as the single line within the vu meter. The rms value gets displayed by the big vu-bar. Does this help? cheese, P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
- Peter Plessas ples...@mur.at a écrit : colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: now it just need to display correct db values gem_vu ist designed to be used with the prvu~ abstraction (Musil, yes, this object is quite usefull, in fact I meant that I need to set up the amplitude modulation for getting a correct db value with the slider, over a logaritmic scale, then the slider setting and the test signal average amplitude should have almost the same value. IEMabs). This abstraction outputs a list with peak and rms values. The peak value gets displayed as the number in gem_vu as well as the single line within the vu meter. The rms value gets displayed by the big vu-bar. Does this help? yes certainly, for the moment I've found [slider value between 0 and 1]--- [rmstodb]--[- 100] to fit almost log scale, but the need is for having 0db at height * 4 / 6, something like that cheese, P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: - Peter Plessas ples...@mur.at a écrit : colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: now it just need to display correct db values gem_vu ist designed to be used with the prvu~ abstraction (Musil, yes, this object is quite usefull, in fact I meant that I need to set up the amplitude modulation for getting a correct db value with the slider, over a logaritmic scale, then the slider setting and the test signal average amplitude should have almost the same value. Be advised that there is many ways of mapping faders to mulipliers. Depending on your practice it is common to have the 0dB (unity gain) mark somewhere 4/5 up the fader's range, which is inherited from analogue mixing desks and which I have found useful in the digital domain as well (despite the danger of clipping at the dac). The mapping of a fader's value to the actual multiplicative value is also a matter of feel (tactile). I don't know if there is much research about this topic, I personally prefer the [fadtodb] abstraction by Thomas Musil (iemabs/iemlib) which we use for our productions here at the IEM, and which to my humble opinion comes closest to the analogue desks i love. chease, Peter ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
- Peter Plessas ples...@mur.at a écrit : Be advised that there is many ways of mapping faders to mulipliers. Depending on your practice it is common to have the 0dB (unity gain) mark somewhere 4/5 up the fader's range, which is inherited from analogue mixing desks and which I have found useful in the digital yeah, I didn't realise that it is the design of the mixertrack screenshot from a known software I've posted before. domain as well (despite the danger of clipping at the dac). The mapping of a fader's value to the actual multiplicative value is also a matter of feel (tactile). I don't know if there is much research about this analog mixerboards has been developped for the best expression of human feeling over an amplitude modulator, why looking elsewhere? topic, I personally prefer the [fadtodb] abstraction by Thomas Musil (iemabs/iemlib) which we use for our productions here at the IEM, and which to my humble opinion comes closest to the analogue desks i love. yeah that's perfect! curiously I get 100.111 db at 4/6 from [fadtodb]'s scale. chease, Peter ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: very cool! are you also projecting to include mouse bindings for grabbing a slider in there? Actually not, since it's a vu-meter. But of course, doing a fader would not be too hard(tm). Have a try at it! kind, P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
Hi, I did a first attempt to a lib for gem that includes gem_toggle, gem_hslider, gem_vslider, gem_knob and others... It is not finished yet but it should work: http://raphael.isdant.free.fr/pure_data/GemUI_abstractions04.zip Raphaël Isdant - Original Message - From: Peter Plessas ples...@mur.at To: colet.patr...@free.fr Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: very cool! are you also projecting to include mouse bindings for grabbing a slider in there? Actually not, since it's a vu-meter. But of course, doing a fader would not be too hard(tm). Have a try at it! kind, P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
create function~ g ... couldn't create error: inlet: expected 'float' but got 'symbol' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. error: inlet: expected 'float' but got 'symbol' error: inlet: expected 'float' but got 'symbol' error: inlet: expected 'float' but got 'symbol' error: inlet: expected 'float' but got 'symbol' error: inlet: expected 'float' but got 'symbol' expr divide by zero detected expr divide by zero detected GEM: GLEW version 1.5.1 GEM: Start rendering GL: énumérant non valide error: [range $2 $3 0 1]: got 2 args instead of 1..1 in Range::_0_list(float f) --- snip --- ... ... ... --- snip --- [range $2 $3 0 1]: got 2 args instead of 1..1 in Range::_0_list(float f) - Raphaël Isdant raphael.isd...@free.fr a écrit : Hi, I did a first attempt to a lib for gem that includes gem_toggle, gem_hslider, gem_vslider, gem_knob and others... It is not finished yet but it should work: http://raphael.isdant.free.fr/pure_data/GemUI_abstractions04.zip Raphaël Isdant - Original Message - From: Peter Plessas ples...@mur.at To: colet.patr...@free.fr Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: very cool! are you also projecting to include mouse bindings for grabbing a slider in there? Actually not, since it's a vu-meter. But of course, doing a fader would not be too hard(tm). Have a try at it! kind, P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: - Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de a écrit : A VU-meter is very expensive to have in a Pd-window, unfortunately. unless you make one in Gem: http://plessas.mur.at/rnd/puredata/puredata.html mfg.adsr P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
very cool! are you also projecting to include mouse bindings for grabbing a slider in there? - Peter Plessas ples...@mur.at a écrit : colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: - Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de a écrit : A VU-meter is very expensive to have in a Pd-window, unfortunately. unless you make one in Gem: http://plessas.mur.at/rnd/puredata/puredata.html mfg.adsr P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Vu-Meter - WAS: nusmuk_audio
- Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de a écrit : A VU-meter is very expensive to have in a Pd-window, unfortunately. those things are hardware accelerated (which would be cool to have in Pd as well, also inside Pd windows). Vu-meter internal isn't hardware accelerated? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
