Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor (fwd)

2009-09-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

I just added a triple-click binding.  The others seem possible but not easy. 
Matju, did you embed a full 'text' widget into the canvas using a window?


Yeah, well, I got Chun to do it.

I thought I had told you a few times.

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[PD] future of the Text Editor

2009-09-09 Thread Daniel Wilcox

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 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:52:42 -0400
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


 Now that cut/copy/paste works in all object boxes, comments, etc. on
 all platforms, is there any reason to keep the Text Editor?

 .hc


There's a text editor ... ? :D

... actually, you'll keep if for [ coll ], etc right?

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Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor

2009-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Sep 9, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:


On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Now that cut/copy/paste works in all object boxes, comments, etc.  
on all platforms, is there any reason to keep the Text Editor?


Shift+arrows : select
Ctrl+arrows : skip words
Shift+Ctrl+arrows : both
Home, End
Shift+Home, Shift+End.
Triple-click (should select a whole line).

I probably forgot some other things.


Some of those things are there already, like Home, End, Ctrl-a/Ctrl-e  
emacs bindings, and I think I could add the others with a 'bind'.   
Matju, in DD you are embedding a full 'text' widget into the canvas  
using a window?


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Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor

2009-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Sep 9, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Daniel Wilcox wrote:




Message: 5
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:52:42 -0400
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at


Now that cut/copy/paste works in all object boxes, comments, etc. on
all platforms, is there any reason to keep the Text Editor?

.hc

There's a text editor ... ? :D

... actually, you'll keep if for [ coll ], etc right?



coll has its own built-in editor, that's separate.

.hc




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Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor (fwd)

2009-09-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard


resending because i accidentally had used a different From:.

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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:49:17 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Now that cut/copy/paste works in all object boxes, comments, etc. on all 
platforms, is there any reason to keep the Text Editor?


Shift+arrows : select
Ctrl+arrows : skip words
Shift+Ctrl+arrows : both
Home, End
Shift+Home, Shift+End.
Triple-click (should select a whole line).

I probably forgot some other things.

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Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor (fwd)

2009-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I just added a triple-click binding.  The others seem possible but not  
easy.  Matju, did you embed a full 'text' widget into the canvas using  
a window?


.hc

On Sep 9, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:



resending because i accidentally had used a different From:.

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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:49:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mathieu Bouchard mbouch...@videographe.qc.ca
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
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Subject: Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Now that cut/copy/paste works in all object boxes, comments, etc.  
on all platforms, is there any reason to keep the Text Editor?


Shift+arrows : select
Ctrl+arrows : skip words
Shift+Ctrl+arrows : both
Home, End
Shift+Home, Shift+End.
Triple-click (should select a whole line).

I probably forgot some other things.

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Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor (fwd)

2009-09-09 Thread Jaime Oliver
I think it is useful to press the down key and be in the same position in
the next line.If I understand the problem correctly...


On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 I just added a triple-click binding.  The others seem possible but not
 easy.  Matju, did you embed a full 'text' widget into the canvas using a
 window?

 .hc


 On Sep 9, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:


 resending because i accidentally had used a different From:.

 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:49:17 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Mathieu Bouchard mbouch...@videographe.qc.ca
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 Cc: PD list pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor

 On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

  Now that cut/copy/paste works in all object boxes, comments, etc. on all
 platforms, is there any reason to keep the Text Editor?


 Shift+arrows : select
 Ctrl+arrows : skip words
 Shift+Ctrl+arrows : both
 Home, End
 Shift+Home, Shift+End.
 Triple-click (should select a whole line).

 I probably forgot some other things.

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Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor

2009-09-09 Thread João Pais
is it the same module that is used to display properties of data  
structures? if so, this is still useful (for example to set coordinates,  
or the odd value).


besides that, I never used the text editor myself (for what it's worth)



Now that cut/copy/paste works in all object boxes, comments, etc. on all  
platforms, is there any reason to keep the Text Editor?


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Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor

2009-09-09 Thread dmotd

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 Now that cut/copy/paste works in all object boxes, comments, etc. on all 
 platforms, is there any reason to keep the Text Editor?

data-structures + clarity of editing. 

i'm not sure if viewing the struct in DS launches 
the same 'Text Editor', but it is quite useful for 
editing/debuging values.

as for clarity, if i am wanting to review a large 
block of text, ie. a message box with a number of 
initiation settings. then i find it better to do 
so in its own window. i think as matju pointed out 
there are a number of extra bindings that make 
text editing a little easier, and perhaps these 
could be expanded - such as a import / export text 
button? i guess what you're suggesting is that if 
i want these features, i'm better off using my 
favourite text editor and hitting the cut button?

i'm not strictly opposed to removing it, but i 
have been known to use this feature in the past.

cheers,
dmotd

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Re: [PD] future of the Text Editor

2009-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:53 PM, dmotd wrote:



Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


Now that cut/copy/paste works in all object boxes, comments, etc.  
on all

platforms, is there any reason to keep the Text Editor?


data-structures + clarity of editing.

i'm not sure if viewing the struct in DS launches
the same 'Text Editor', but it is quite useful for
editing/debuging values.

as for clarity, if i am wanting to review a large
block of text, ie. a message box with a number of
initiation settings. then i find it better to do
so in its own window. i think as matju pointed out
there are a number of extra bindings that make
text editing a little easier, and perhaps these
could be expanded - such as a import / export text
button? i guess what you're suggesting is that if
i want these features, i'm better off using my
favourite text editor and hitting the cut button?

i'm not strictly opposed to removing it, but i
have been known to use this feature in the past.

cheers,
dmotd



The data structures dialog is totally separate.  The Text Editor is  
the thing you get from the Edit menu.  FYI: I just added the data  
structures dialog to pd-gui-rewrite.


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