Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 09:22 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, you can either change the perms of the devices, or add your user to the root group. do i read correctly that you are proposing to add your user to the root group? i would rather change the group of /dev/input/event* via /etc/udev/rules.d/ (and add myself to this group). hi IOhannes, hi list this sounds so easy, but it is not, at least for me. although this might be off-topic, i'd like to ask the list, how to do this step-by-step, since everyone, who uses [hid] on a linux-box, is confronted with that question. the ugly solution i am using for now, is to change the permissions manually each time i boot the computer and want to use a joystick. thanks for any suggestions roman ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission with udev
Roman Haefeli wrote: this sounds so easy, but it is not, at least for me. although this might be off-topic, i'd like to ask the list, how to do this step-by-step, since everyone, who uses [hid] on a linux-box, is confronted with that question. the ugly solution i am using for now, is to change the permissions manually each time i boot the computer and want to use a joystick. adding this line to /etc/udev/permissions.rules (on a debian system) KERNEL==event[0-9]*, MODE=0664, GROUP=games should give you rw-rw-r permissions (and the group will be set to games) choose your own group and mode. this is something you i have guessed by just looking at the /etc/udev/ directory and the contents of some files therein. i do not doubt that there is lot of information available in the net. mfgadr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 09:22 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, you can either change the perms of the devices, or add your user to the root group. do i read correctly that you are proposing to add your user to the root group? i would rather change the group of /dev/input/event* via /etc/udev/rules.d/ (and add myself to this group). hi IOhannes, hi list this sounds so easy, but it is not, at least for me. although this might be off-topic, i'd like to ask the list, how to do this step-by-step, since everyone, who uses [hid] on a linux-box, is confronted with that question. the ugly solution i am using for now, is to change the permissions manually each time i boot the computer and want to use a joystick. thanks for any suggestions roman In my opinion, this is the cleanest way to do it: - First add your account to the 'audio' group: edit /etc/group and find the line that starts with 'audio'. Add your account after the colons. For instance In my '/etc/group' have: audio::17:cesarem The group number could be different. - Then edit /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules: Find the line that starts with ' KERNEL=event*, '. Change the permissions as 0660 and add the 'audio' group. Here I have: KERNEL=event*,NAME=input/%k, MODE=0660, GROUP=audio Ciao, c. ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.cesaremarilungo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
Cesare Marilungo wrote: - First add your account to the 'audio' group: edit /etc/group and find the line that starts with 'audio'. Add your account after the colons. For instance In my '/etc/group' have: better use adduser user group (e.g. adduser cesarem audio). this way you have less chance to fuck up your /etc/group file. if you really MUST edit /etc/group, /etc/passwd and their shadowy friends by hand, use specialised tools, such as vipw [-s] and vigr [-s]. mfga.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission with udev
hi IOhannes On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 15:01 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: this sounds so easy, but it is not, at least for me. although this might be off-topic, i'd like to ask the list, how to do this step-by-step, since everyone, who uses [hid] on a linux-box, is confronted with that question. the ugly solution i am using for now, is to change the permissions manually each time i boot the computer and want to use a joystick. adding this line to /etc/udev/permissions.rules (on a debian system) KERNEL==event[0-9]*, MODE=0664, GROUP=games thank you very much for providing this information. should give you rw-rw-r permissions (and the group will be set to games) choose your own group and mode. this is something you i have guessed by just looking at the /etc/udev/ directory and the contents of some files therein. i do not doubt that there is lot of information available in the net. yes, there is, maybe to much and too confusing for someone like me since this wasn't asked before in the list and at the same time it concerns so many people, i still believe it was a good choice to ask the list. why should so many people find that out themselves and possibly spend hours on that ( i admit i sometimes/often spend hours on rather *stupid* things like that), when this could be stated once forever in a thread containing the keywords 'hid' 'linux' 'event' 'permission' 'udev' in its subject? roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Cesare Marilungo wrote: - First add your account to the 'audio' group: edit /etc/group and find the line that starts with 'audio'. Add your account after the colons. For instance In my '/etc/group' have: better use adduser user group (e.g. adduser cesarem audio). this way you have less chance to fuck up your /etc/group file. Yes, you're right. But /etc/group is just a plain text without encrypted data, and editing it with vi or whatever gives the very same result. It's easier to fuck up udev.rules, though. c. if you really MUST edit /etc/group, /etc/passwd and their shadowy friends by hand, use specialised tools, such as vipw [-s] and vigr [-s]. mfga.dr IOhannes -- http://www.cesaremarilungo.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, you can either change the perms of the devices, or add your user to the root group. do i read correctly that you are proposing to add your user to the root group? i would rather change the group of /dev/input/event* via /etc/udev/rules.d/ (and add myself to this group). or run pd as root. or run w98 mf.adr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
On Dec 5, 2006, at 3:22 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, you can either change the perms of the devices, or add your user to the root group. do i read correctly that you are proposing to add your user to the root group? Yes, the root group doesn't really give you much additional access. Mostly its read permissions on some logs and r/w on the input devices, /dev/etc, and /dev/apm_bios, AFAIK. i would rather change the group of /dev/input/event* via /etc/udev/ rules.d/ (and add myself to this group). If you have udev running, that does sound like a better option. or run pd as root. That is far, far worse than the root group. That gives you complete r/w access to everything. Quite a bit different than the root group. I definitely do not recommend that at all. or run w98 You must be joking =D .hc If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] hid/linux: event permission
hi hans, i'm just curious ... on gentoo the permissions for the /dev/input/eventX devices are set to 600, so they are not available for the ordinary user ... is this a specific bug/feature of gentoo? did you experience anything like this on other distributions? tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk You can play a shoestring if you're sincere John Coltrane signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission
Hi tim, list, Debian is : crw-rw 1 root root 13, 64 2006-12-04 20:02 event0 crw-rw 1 root root 13, 65 2006-12-04 20:02 event1 crw-rw 1 root root 13, 66 2006-12-04 20:02 event2 I remember when I used [hid] a lot I had to : # chmod a+r /dev/event* before being able to read anything from it. ++ Jé Tim Blechmann a écrit : hi hans, i'm just curious ... on gentoo the permissions for the /dev/input/eventX devices are set to 600, so they are not available for the ordinary user ... is this a specific bug/feature of gentoo? did you experience anything like this on other distributions? tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 96771783 http://www.mokabar.tk You can play a shoestring if you're sincere John Coltrane ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
