Re: [PD] iemmatrix mtx_.*

2011-02-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
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On 2011-02-11 22:12, mami music wrote:
 Sorry for 100th posting
 i found a way (maby its also the 100th time someone describes it):
 
 I copied [iemmatrix 0.2] as the first object in the patch. (i erased all the
 patch, created the [iemmatrix 0.2] object and then pasted it back).
 Even tough the [iemmatrix 0.2] object seems not to be created, the [mtx_.*]
 is created and it works
 

some remarks:

- - you can safely forget about the 0.2; this is merely cosmetic to
indicate the version number in the help-patches.

- - it is usually a bad idea to rely on the order of creation of objects.
most problematic, when looking at the patch, you don't see that objectA
is created before objectB; this breaks with the patching paradigm (where
the entire functionality of the patch should be visible) - confirm
trigger.
the [declare] object will help you here, as it guarantees to be loaded
at first (this description is not technically precise, btw)

fgmasdr
IOhannes
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Re: [PD] iemmatrix mtx_.*

2011-02-14 Thread Roman Haefeli

On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 10:12 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
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 On 2011-02-11 22:12, mami music wrote:
  Sorry for 100th posting
  i found a way (maby its also the 100th time someone describes it):
  
  I copied [iemmatrix 0.2] as the first object in the patch. (i erased all the
  patch, created the [iemmatrix 0.2] object and then pasted it back).
  Even tough the [iemmatrix 0.2] object seems not to be created, the [mtx_.*]
  is created and it works

Did you consider my other mail? Have you tried putting this to your
patch:

[import hexloader iemmatrix]

Roman


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Re: [PD] iemmatrix mtx_.*

2011-02-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 22:02 +0100, IOhannes zmölnig wrote:
 On 02/11/2011 09:56 PM, mami music wrote:
  Hi
  Im having trouble using this object [mtx_.*] in a patch. It never loads when
  i start the patch. I have to go to help/browser/examples/iemmatrix/mtx_mul
  and open that example. Just after I open that example I can rewrite the
  object and i get it to be created properly.
  
  How can this be solved and be able to load the patch from the start without
  repeating this exercise of opening the examples, etc?
  
 it has been discussed a 100 times on this list.
 you either have to load iemmatrix as a single library (that is how it is
 intended; unfortunately PdExtended doesn't ship iemmatrix as a library,
 but only as single objects, that have a lot of trouble with special
 characters like *), or you have to load mtx_mul beforehand.
 luckily, you don't have to open the help-patch, but you can simply
 create a [mtx_mul] object.
 

Alternatively, you could put [import hexloader iemmatrix] in your patch
and then [mtx_*] and the like will be loaded without troubles.
Unfortunately, hexloader which is supposed to fix this kind of loading
problems is _not_ loaded by default in Pd-extended. 

Roman



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[PD] iemmatrix mtx_.*

2011-02-11 Thread mami music
Hi
Im having trouble using this object [mtx_.*] in a patch. It never loads when
i start the patch. I have to go to help/browser/examples/iemmatrix/mtx_mul
and open that example. Just after I open that example I can rewrite the
object and i get it to be created properly.

How can this be solved and be able to load the patch from the start without
repeating this exercise of opening the examples, etc?

Thanks

D
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Re: [PD] iemmatrix mtx_.*

2011-02-11 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 02/11/2011 09:56 PM, mami music wrote:
 Hi
 Im having trouble using this object [mtx_.*] in a patch. It never loads when
 i start the patch. I have to go to help/browser/examples/iemmatrix/mtx_mul
 and open that example. Just after I open that example I can rewrite the
 object and i get it to be created properly.
 
 How can this be solved and be able to load the patch from the start without
 repeating this exercise of opening the examples, etc?
 
it has been discussed a 100 times on this list.
you either have to load iemmatrix as a single library (that is how it is
intended; unfortunately PdExtended doesn't ship iemmatrix as a library,
but only as single objects, that have a lot of trouble with special
characters like *), or you have to load mtx_mul beforehand.
luckily, you don't have to open the help-patch, but you can simply
create a [mtx_mul] object.

fgmasdr
IOhannes



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