[PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards
to inappropriate/aggressive comments?
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Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-13 11:30, ALAN BROOKER wrote:
 Hi
 
 Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards
 to inappropriate/aggressive comments?

nobody moderates the mailing list (this is by intention) and the rules
are set out at http://puredata.info/community/lists/Netiquette/

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Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread Derek Holzer

Hmmm nothing about trolling there. Should be.

D.

On 12/13/10 11:33 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

On 2010-12-13 11:30, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

Hi

Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards
to inappropriate/aggressive comments?


nobody moderates the mailing list (this is by intention) and the rules
are set out at http://puredata.info/community/lists/Netiquette/



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Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread jurgen
I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's not happy 
extremely violent and inappropriate. Do you think that your own way of reacting 
to posts here should be elevated to become standard of the entire group? What 
an idea!

Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they 
contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider useful obliges 
nobody else but you.


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Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
 Jurgen:

I don't agree that it is a “ extremely violent” comment because it is a
suggestion rather than any sort of threat? Perhaps you be a bit more
specific by what you mean. In any case, it is reasonable thing to say- if
you are not happy with the people here don't subscribe to the list. “If you
don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all”

Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they
contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider useful obliges
nobody else but you.


 Would like to explain just how useful and constructive ydegoyon's previous
comment was in that “there are only three collaborators and you call that a
community”? What is the point is saying that? You must agree it is a comment
to really just take the piss out of the developers and is demotivating.
Hardly sensible discourse


 Do you think that your own way of reacting to posts here should be elevated
to become standard of the entire group? What an idea!


 No, that is not the case at all, and if this is the impression I have given
, then I apologise-were all adults here and if I have done something wrong
then I am willing to take a step back. If you don't agree with me, that's
fair enough-like I said bad feelings between people is not a good thing.


 To just me it seems, that Sevy is pissed off and is just trying to piss
other people off. If you like have look back at some of the previous posts
and then tell me if you think his posts are constructive or not.





On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM, jurgen noise@gmail.com wrote:

 I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's not
 happy extremely violent and inappropriate. Do you think that your own way of
 reacting to posts here should be elevated to become standard of the entire
 group? What an idea!

 Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they
 contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider useful obliges
 nobody else but you.


 On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:30 PM, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

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  Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to
 inappropriate/aggressive comments?
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Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread patko
Hi, 

 the ones that don't like trolling or critics should use brain to relativize, 
instead of using emotions like in despotic societies.

- jurgen noise@gmail.com a écrit :

 I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's
 not happy extremely violent and inappropriate. Do you think that your
 own way of reacting to posts here should be elevated to become
 standard of the entire group? What an idea!
 
 Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because
 they contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider
 useful obliges nobody else but you.
 
 
 On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:30 PM, ALAN BROOKER wrote:
 
  Hi 
  
  Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to
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Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread patko

- ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com a écrit :


 
 Would like to explain just how useful and constructive ydegoyon's
 previous comment was in that “there are only three collaborators and
 you call that a community”? What is the point is saying that? You must
 agree it is a comment to really just take the piss out of the
 developers and is demotivating. Hardly sensible discourse
 

 It's your interpretation.

 

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Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, jurgen wrote:

I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's 
not happy extremely violent and inappropriate.


At the risk of sounding a bit like Degoyon, I suggest that you open some 
history books, to see what extreme violence looks like.


Then, perhaps, you will use more appropriate vocabulary.

Do you think that your own way of reacting to posts here should be 
elevated to become standard of the entire group? What an idea!


Speaking of which, on pd-list/pd-dev, Degoyon is, by far, the person who 
has the most often used the words «everybody» to describe his own opinion, 
and «nobody» for the opposite. Whenever he talked like that, you didn't 
speak up, and usually, no-one does.


Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they 
contribute to ongoing processes.


May you elaborate on that ? Sounds curious...

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Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I appreciate the concern, but honestly I think the best solution is to  
just ignore the trolling.  If its too much, may I suggest filtering  
the list in your mailer?


.hc

On Dec 13, 2010, at 7:02 AM, ALAN BROOKER wrote:



Jurgen:
I don't agree that it is a “ extremely violent” comment because it  
is a suggestion rather than any sort of threat? Perhaps you be a bit  
more specific by what you mean. In any case, it is reasonable thing  
to say- if you are not happy with the people here don't subscribe to  
the list. “If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything  
at all”
Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because  
they contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider  
useful obliges nobody else but you.


Would like to explain just how useful and constructive ydegoyon's  
previous comment was in that “there are only three collaborators and  
you call that a community”? What is the point is saying that? You  
must agree it is a comment to really just take the piss out of the  
developers and is demotivating. Hardly sensible discourse


Do you think that your own way of reacting to posts here should be  
elevated to become standard of the entire group? What an idea!


No, that is not the case at all, and if this is the impression I  
have given , then I apologise-were all adults here and if I have  
done something wrong then I am willing to take a step back. If you  
don't agree with me, that's fair enough-like I said bad feelings  
between people is not a good thing.


To just me it seems, that Sevy is pissed off and is just trying to  
piss other people off. If you like have look back at some of the  
previous posts and then tell me if you think his posts are  
constructive or not.





On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM, jurgen noise@gmail.com wrote:
I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if  
he's not happy extremely violent and inappropriate. Do you think  
that your own way of reacting to posts here should be elevated to  
become standard of the entire group? What an idea!


Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because  
they contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider  
useful obliges nobody else but you.



On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:30 PM, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

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 Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards  
to inappropriate/aggressive comments?

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Re: [PD] Mailing-List header

2008-05-09 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Steffen Juul wrote:
 On 09/05/2008, at 11.27, Roman Haefeli wrote:
 
 changing the mail filters shouldn't be too hard ;-)
 
 And why filter list-mail by subject? I might miss an obvious reason,  
 thats why i ask.

i assumed that many people have never ever looked at the mail-headers of
an email - apart from the obvious fields that are shown by default on
most mtas (subject:, from:, date:, ...) - and don't even know that they
could filter based on rfc2919

i might be wrong of course.

mgf,adsr
IOhannes

PS: probably most people don't do any filtering anyhow...

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[PD] pd mailing list firefox search plug in

2007-06-29 Thread altern
hi all

could anyone please send the URL for the pd mailing list firefox search 
plug in? I am quickly trying to find it with no much luck. I urgently 
need it for a workshop, to pass it to students.

I thought it was somewhere in puredata.org but i cannot find it now.

thanks!

enrike

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Re: [PD] pd mailing list firefox search plug in

2007-06-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
altern wrote:
 hi all
 
 could anyone please send the URL for the pd mailing list firefox search 
 plug in? I am quickly trying to find it with no much luck. I urgently 
 need it for a workshop, to pass it to students.
 
 I thought it was somewhere in puredata.org but i cannot find it now.

if you go the mainpage of http://puredata.info/ you will see a news
section on the right-hand side, where the very last visible entry (at
least here...) is pd search engines which in turn links to
http://puredata.info/Members/zmoelnig/news/pd-search-engines
which will give you a link to the mycroft-site where all ye mozilla
search plugins are collected:
http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=puredata

fm.asdr
IOhannes

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