Re: [PD] [PD-announce] workshop: Pd as your embeddable audio engine
NY is a couple thousand Km away from Berlin, so I'm for that as well. Also, is pdlib just with pd-vanilla, or is it possible to use externals with it? João Pais I'd like to second that request. Brooklyn's just a few too many miles away from Los Angeles for me to make a day trip. Ustream perhaps? Best, Kevin On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds like an amazing workshop. Any chance some form of it will end up online, to reach a broader audience? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] workshop: Pd as your embeddable audio engine
Also, is pdlib just with pd-vanilla, or is it possible to use externals with it? yes, i use Gem with libpd. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] workshop: Pd as your embeddable audio engine
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: NY is a couple thousand Km away from Berlin, so I'm for that as well. Also, is pdlib just with pd-vanilla, or is it possible to use externals with it? The short answer is that yes, externals work with libpd. A slightly longer answer is that your operating system determines how externals work. If dlopen is available (e.g., on Android), then you can load externals as needed, the way Pd does it. If dlopen is not available (e.g., on iOS), then you need to decide in advance which externals you want to use and compile them into your code. Peter ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] workshop: Pd as your embeddable audio engine
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:59 AM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote: Also, is pdlib just with pd-vanilla, or is it possible to use externals with it? yes, i use Gem with libpd. Two comments: (a) Awesome! Would you mind telling us more about your project? (b) Every once in a while I find myself tempted to port Gem to Android, but then I wonder whether this would actually make sense. Essentially, the way I see it, Gem maps a subset of OpenGL into Pd and controls graphics with Pd messages. With libpd, you can use OpenGL directly in your client code and still exchange messages with Pd, and chances are that it'll be easier to do the math for OpenGL outside of Pd. Any thoughts? Cheers, Peter ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] workshop: Pd as your embeddable audio engine
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Peter Brinkmann wrote: (b) Every once in a while I find myself tempted to port Gem to Android, but then I wonder whether this would actually make sense. Essentially, the way I see it, Gem maps a subset of OpenGL into Pd and controls graphics with Pd messages. With libpd, you can use OpenGL directly in your client code and still exchange messages with Pd, and chances are that it'll be easier to do the math for OpenGL outside of Pd. Any thoughts? 1. GEM is more than just OpenGL. 2. [gf/gl] can compensate for some of the most annoying aspects of GEM, but still needs GEM. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] workshop: Pd as your embeddable audio engine
(a) Awesome! Would you mind telling us more about your project? it was just to test out libpd embed in a C++ application. by using Gem i was almost sure it was the most complicated external to run. to make it work, i had to compiled my program with: /-Wl,–export-dynamic -Wl,–whole-archive ./libpd.a -Wl,–no-whole-archive/ there's a small GUI example here (end of the page): http://www.workinprogress.ca/libpd/ (b) Every once in a while I find myself tempted to port Gem to Android, but then I wonder whether this would actually make sense. Essentially, the way I see it, Gem maps a subset of OpenGL into Pd and controls graphics with Pd messages. With libpd, you can use OpenGL directly in your client code and still exchange messages with Pd, and chances are that it'll be easier to do the math for OpenGL outside of Pd. Any thoughts? like matju said, Gem is more than just OpenGL, so i like the fact that i don't need to know OpenGL to make simple stuff (even some basic GUI) :) Peter thanks again for libpd! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] workshop: Pd as your embeddable audio engine
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011, patrick wrote: it was just to test out libpd embed in a C++ application. by using Gem i was almost sure it was the most complicated external to run. to make it work, i had to compiled my program with: /-Wl,–export-dynamic -Wl,–whole-archive ./libpd.a -Wl,–no-whole-archive/ BTW your email programme auto-converts two dashes into a long-dash. Thus your command-line options can't be copy-pasted to the terminal as-is. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] workshop: Pd as your embeddable audio engine
This sounds like an amazing workshop. Any chance some form of it will end up online, to reach a broader audience? On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: http://www.nycresistor.com/2011/04/07/class-pd-as-your-embeddable-audio-engine/ Pd as your embedded audio engine will teach all about embedding libpd as the sound engine for your app, whether its iPhone, Android, Java, OpenFrameworks, Processing, etc. This workshop provides a broad spectrum of different ways of connecting Pd to other things. Having hardware isn't a requirement either. The workshop will cover ways of interfacing with Pd from computer to computer. Bring your laptop and devices that you want to install libpd on (Android, iPhone, etc.) HTML and/or programming knowledge will certainly help. The aim of this workshop is to give a broad spectrum of different ways to interface to Pd. So it will be dipping very slightly into Python, C, Java, Javascript, but this is usually glue code and all of the code will be fully provided. You do not need to be proficient in these languages at all, the workshop will also cover methods that also just use Pd with no code at all. Here is an outline of topics: * Introduction * History of Pd as an engine * Ways to interface with a Pd process * Midi OSC * FUDI * stdout * Python + sockets * pdsend/pdreceive * Parsing patches in three languages * libpd on Android and iOS * PdWebKitDroid * RjDj and ScenePlayer * WebPd Purchase a ticket here: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1491957485 Workshop: Pd as your embedded audio engine Taught by: Chris McCormick, http://mccormick.cx/chrism When: Saturday, April 23, 2011 from 1:00 PM - 5:00 PM (EDT) Where: NYCResistor, 87 3rd Ave, Brooklyn, http://nycresistor.com Register now! http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1491957485 ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Richie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] workshop: Pd as your embeddable audio engine
I'd like to second that request. Brooklyn's just a few too many miles away from Los Angeles for me to make a day trip. Ustream perhaps? Best, Kevin On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds like an amazing workshop. Any chance some form of it will end up online, to reach a broader audience? On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: http://www.nycresistor.com/2011/04/07/class-pd-as-your-embeddable-audio-engine/ Pd as your embedded audio engine will teach all about embedding libpd as the sound engine for your app, whether its iPhone, Android, Java, OpenFrameworks, Processing, etc. This workshop provides a broad spectrum of different ways of connecting Pd to other things. Having hardware isn't a requirement either. The workshop will cover ways of interfacing with Pd from computer to computer. Bring your laptop and devices that you want to install libpd on (Android, iPhone, etc.) HTML and/or programming knowledge will certainly help. The aim of this workshop is to give a broad spectrum of different ways to interface to Pd. So it will be dipping very slightly into Python, C, Java, Javascript, but this is usually glue code and all of the code will be fully provided. You do not need to be proficient in these languages at all, the workshop will also cover methods that also just use Pd with no code at all. Here is an outline of topics: * Introduction * History of Pd as an engine * Ways to interface with a Pd process * Midi OSC * FUDI * stdout * Python + sockets * pdsend/pdreceive * Parsing patches in three languages * libpd on Android and iOS * PdWebKitDroid * RjDj and ScenePlayer * WebPd Purchase a ticket here: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1491957485 Workshop: Pd as your embedded audio engine Taught by: Chris McCormick, http://mccormick.cx/chrism When: Saturday, April 23, 2011 from 1:00 PM - 5:00 PM (EDT) Where: NYCResistor, 87 3rd Ave, Brooklyn, http://nycresistor.com Register now! http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1491957485 ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Richie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
