Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

That still sends the audio signal, tho its all 0s, I wonder if there is an 
object that actually stops the flow of audio, i.e. behaves like an unattached 
inlet.  This is useful if you want to send a float message to an audio inlet.

.hc

On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:18 AM, i go bananas wrote:

 [*~ ]
 
 (send a 1 or 0 to the right inlet to turn on and off)
 
 (do this after the 0 / 1  to avoid clicks:
 
  [$1 5(
  |
  [line~]
  |
 [*~ ]
 
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela 
 svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi again,
 
 Can such a thing be built? Something you can put in between an audio source 
 and audio receiver (like an osc~ object going to a dac~) that would either 
 break that signal or allow audio to flow from one to the other (On/Off). 
 There is probably a very easy answer to this.
 
 Thank you for reading,
 Sebastian
 
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Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-15 Thread Mikael Fernstrom

[spigot~ ]

/m

On 15 Nov 2011, at 16:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



That still sends the audio signal, tho its all 0s, I wonder if there  
is an object that actually stops the flow of audio, i.e. behaves  
like an unattached inlet.  This is useful if you want to send a  
float message to an audio inlet.


.hc

On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:18 AM, i go bananas wrote:


[*~ ]

(send a 1 or 0 to the right inlet to turn on and off)

(do this after the 0 / 1  to avoid clicks:

 [$1 5(
 |
 [line~]
 |
[*~ ]



On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

Hi again,

Can such a thing be built? Something you can put in between an  
audio source and audio receiver (like an osc~ object going to a  
dac~) that would either break that signal or allow audio to flow  
from one to the other (On/Off). There is probably a very easy  
answer to this.


Thank you for reading,
Sebastian

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Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
see [sig~]





From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
To: i go bananas hard@gmail.com
Cc: Pure Data Forum pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?




That still sends the audio signal, tho its all 0s, I wonder if there is an 
object that actually stops the flow of audio, i.e. behaves like an unattached 
inlet.  This is useful if you want to send a float message to an audio inlet.


.hc

On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:18 AM, i go bananas wrote:

[*~ ]

(send a 1 or 0 to the right inlet to turn on and off)

(do this after the 0 / 1  to avoid clicks:

 [$1 5(
 |
 [line~]
 |
[*~ ]




On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela 
svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi again,

Can such a thing be built? Something you can put in between an audio source 
and audio receiver (like an osc~ object going to a dac~) that would either 
break that signal or allow audio to flow from one to the other (On/Off). 
There is probably a very easy answer to this. 


Thank you for reading,
Sebastian
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Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-15 Thread tim vets
[inlet~]   [inlet]
|  |
|  [switch~]
|
[outlet~]
?


2011/11/15 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com

 see [sig~]




 
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: i go bananas hard@gmail.com
 Cc: Pure Data Forum pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?
 
 
 
 
 That still sends the audio signal, tho its all 0s, I wonder if there is
 an object that actually stops the flow of audio, i.e. behaves like an
 unattached inlet.  This is useful if you want to send a float message to an
 audio inlet.
 
 
 .hc
 
 On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:18 AM, i go bananas wrote:
 
 [*~ ]
 
 (send a 1 or 0 to the right inlet to turn on and off)
 
 (do this after the 0 / 1  to avoid clicks:
 
  [$1 5(
  |
  [line~]
  |
 [*~ ]
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela 
 svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi again,
 
 Can such a thing be built? Something you can put in between an audio
 source and audio receiver (like an osc~ object going to a dac~) that would
 either break that signal or allow audio to flow from one to the other
 (On/Off). There is probably a very easy answer to this.
 
 
 Thank you for reading,
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Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Seems like that would work, with work meaning it fulfills hc's request.

But I don't understand hc's request-- you can already sent a float to an audio 

inlet.  What is the problem that's being addressedhere?


-Jonathan



From: tim vets timv...@gmail.com
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at; i go bananas hard@gmail.com; 
Pure Data Forum pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?


[inlet~]       [inlet]
|                  ||                  [switch~]
|
[outlet~]
?




2011/11/15 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com

see [sig~]





From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
To: i go bananas hard@gmail.com
Cc: Pure Data Forum pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?





That still sends the audio signal, tho its all 0s, I wonder if there is an 
object that actually stops the flow of audio, i.e. behaves like an 
unattached inlet.  This is useful if you want to send a float message to an 
audio inlet.


.hc

On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:18 AM, i go bananas wrote:

[*~ ]

(send a 1 or 0 to the right inlet to turn on and off)

(do this after the 0 / 1  to avoid clicks:

 [$1 5(
 |
 [line~]
 |
[*~ ]




On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela 
svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi again,

Can such a thing be built? Something you can put in between an audio 
source and audio receiver (like an osc~ object going to a dac~) that would 
either break that signal or allow audio to flow from one to the other 
(On/Off). There is probably a very easy answer to this.


Thank you for reading,
Sebastian
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Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-15 Thread Ingo
You'll have the choice whether to use the audio signal or the float. If the
audio signal is connected it will override the float on the next sample.

Ingo

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
 Jonathan Wilkes
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. November 2011 20:06
 An: tim vets
 Cc: Pure Data Forum; i go bananas
 Betreff: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?
 
 Seems like that would work, with work meaning it fulfills hc's request.
 
 But I don't understand hc's request-- you can already sent a float to an
 audio
 
 inlet.  What is the problem that's being addressedhere?
 
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 From: tim vets timv...@gmail.com
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at; i go bananas
 hard@gmail.com; Pure Data Forum pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?
 
 
 [inlet~]       [inlet]
 |                  ||                  [switch~]
 |
 [outlet~]
 ?
 
 
 
 
 2011/11/15 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 
 see [sig~]
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: i go bananas hard@gmail.com
 Cc: Pure Data Forum pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?
 
 
 
 
 
 That still sends the audio signal, tho its all 0s, I wonder if there is
 an object that actually stops the flow of audio, i.e. behaves like an
 unattached inlet.  This is useful if you want to send a float message to
 an audio inlet.
 
 
 .hc
 
 On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:18 AM, i go bananas wrote:
 
 [*~ ]
 
 (send a 1 or 0 to the right inlet to turn on and off)
 
 (do this after the 0 / 1  to avoid clicks:
 
  [$1 5(
  |
  [line~]
  |
 [*~ ]
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela
 svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi again,
 
 Can such a thing be built? Something you can put in between an audio
 source and audio receiver (like an osc~ object going to a dac~) that would
 either break that signal or allow audio to flow from one to the other
 (On/Off). There is probably a very easy answer to this.
 
 
 Thank you for reading,
 Sebastian
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Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Oh, ok.  Well, that's one of the three reasons that [sig~] exists.

-Jonathan


- Original Message -
 From: Ingo i...@miamiwave.com
 To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancs...@yahoo.com; 'tim vets' timv...@gmail.com
 Cc: 'Pure Data Forum' pd-list@iem.at; 'i go bananas' hard@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 2:17 PM
 Subject: AW: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?
 
 You'll have the choice whether to use the audio signal or the float. If the
 audio signal is connected it will override the float on the next sample.
 
 Ingo
 
  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
  Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
  Jonathan Wilkes
  Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. November 2011 20:06
  An: tim vets
  Cc: Pure Data Forum; i go bananas
  Betreff: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?
 
  Seems like that would work, with work meaning it fulfills 
 hc's request.
 
  But I don't understand hc's request-- you can already sent a float 
 to an
  audio
 
  inlet.  What is the problem that's being addressedhere?
 
 
  -Jonathan
 
 
  
  From: tim vets timv...@gmail.com
  To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
  Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at; i go bananas
  hard@gmail.com; Pure Data Forum pd-list@iem.at
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?
  
  
  [inlet~]       [inlet]
  |                  ||                  [switch~]
  |
  [outlet~]
  ?
  
  
  
  
  2011/11/15 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
  
  see [sig~]
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
  To: i go bananas hard@gmail.com
  Cc: Pure Data Forum pd-list@iem.at
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?
  
  
  
  
  
  That still sends the audio signal, tho its all 0s, I wonder if 
 there is
  an object that actually stops the flow of audio, i.e. behaves like an
  unattached inlet.  This is useful if you want to send a float message to
  an audio inlet.
  
  
  .hc
  
  On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:18 AM, i go bananas wrote:
  
  [*~ ]
  
  (send a 1 or 0 to the right inlet to turn on and off)
  
  (do this after the 0 / 1  to avoid clicks:
  
   [$1 5(
   |
   [line~]
   |
  [*~ ]
  
  
  
  
  On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela
  svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  Hi again,
  
  Can such a thing be built? Something you can put in 
 between an audio
  source and audio receiver (like an osc~ object going to a dac~) that would
  either break that signal or allow audio to flow from one to the other
  (On/Off). There is probably a very easy answer to this.
  
  
  Thank you for reading,
  Sebastian
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Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-15 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 11/15/2011 09:06 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 Oh, ok.  Well, that's one of the three reasons that [sig~] exists.

i think the only reason is legacy.

mgfasrd
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Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
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 From: IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 Cc: 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?
 
 On 11/15/2011 09:06 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
  Oh, ok.  Well, that's one of the three reasons that [sig~] exists.
 
 i think the only reason is legacy.

Not really.  It has its applications when patching live (esp. in conjunction 
with [expr~] as in that Youtube live-patching clip someone posted).  And, 
at least for me, in live patching it's the clearest choice for implicit summing 
at a signal inlet when a control value needs to be combined with a signal 
connection, and one has already made the signal connection.  (But in a 
premade patch I'd just make the summing explicit with [+~].)

Finally, if you have an object like [cyclone/rand~] where you can't set the 
initial inlet value with an argument, it's easier to do [sig~ 30]--[rand~] than 
[loadbang]--[30(--[rand~]

It's certainly not the most vital object in Pd, but then again neither is 
[float], really (why not just use [list])?

 
 mgfasrd
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Re: [PD] Audio line circuit breaker?

2011-11-14 Thread i go bananas
[*~ ]

(send a 1 or 0 to the right inlet to turn on and off)

(do this after the 0 / 1  to avoid clicks:

 [$1 5(
 |
 [line~]
 |
[*~ ]



On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Valenzuela 
svalenzuelamu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi again,

 Can such a thing be built? Something you can put in between an audio
 source and audio receiver (like an osc~ object going to a dac~) that would
 either break that signal or allow audio to flow from one to the other
 (On/Off). There is probably a very easy answer to this.

 Thank you for reading,
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