Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-24 Thread João Pais
hey, I dindt use d-structures, but tried the other things and nothing  
really

seemed to happen...


make an array and draw something.
open up the gop window until you have a window with only the array. then  
edit the properties of the table in paralel - the array will change  
scaling etc.


I think I've done something different in the last mail, but I don't  
remember now what it was.


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Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-23 Thread João Pais

I didnt want it to do anything really, just wanted to know what it did...
what about those unit pixels thing? when the canvas is not gopped?
cheers


it basically sets the resolution of the gop. you notice it if you use data  
structures.


or even: create an array, and open the graphical subpatch. draw a wave,  
and try around different values. (also for any other fields)



with donecanvasdialog, I use these to change the zoom of my data-s  
patches, etc.


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Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Alexandre Porres hat gesagt: // Alexandre Porres wrote:

 I didnt want it to do anything really, just wanted to know what it did...
 what about those unit pixels thing? when the canvas is not gopped?

They are mostly useful with data structures. You can use them to zoom in and
out while keeping the data stored constant and you can invert for example the
y-axis, which is useful when you display things like frequency: bigger values
are then displayed above smaller values, which looks more natural that the
default of bigger y-values going down.

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Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote:
 ok, what are the margins of canvases for? what happens when I change them? I
 see nothing... :(

They move the red rectangle for GOP to a different position. Do you see
the rectangle?

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Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Miller Puckette
It's not a really good name... this sets the location of the upper left
edge of the red rectangle inside a graph-on-parent canvas -- has no effect 
for canvases that aren't graph-on-parent.

cheers
Miiler

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote:
 ok, what are the margins of canvases for? what happens when I change them? I
 see nothing... :(
 
 thanks

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Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Alexandre Porres
Thanks!
seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way,
cheers


2010/4/22 Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu

 It's not a really good name... this sets the location of the upper left
 edge of the red rectangle inside a graph-on-parent canvas -- has no
 effect
 for canvases that aren't graph-on-parent.

 cheers
 Miiler

 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote:
  ok, what are the margins of canvases for? what happens when I change
 them? I
  see nothing... :(
 
  thanks

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Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Alexandre Porres
Hmm, what about Units per Pixel when GOP is unticked?
Cheers
Alex


2010/4/22 Alexandre Porres por...@gmail.com

 Thanks!
 seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way,
 cheers


 2010/4/22 Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu

 It's not a really good name... this sets the location of the upper left
 edge of the red rectangle inside a graph-on-parent canvas -- has no
 effect
 for canvases that aren't graph-on-parent.

 cheers
 Miiler

 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote:
  ok, what are the margins of canvases for? what happens when I change
 them? I
  see nothing... :(
 
  thanks

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Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Alexandre Porres wrote:


Thanks!seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way, 


Arrays are canvases, and margins are about canvases, so, they affect the 
canvas aspect of them, so, goppable objects are moved and cropped 
according to the red rectangle, yet at the same time, array elements are 
not affected by the red rectangle at all, 


well, it wouldn't be true to say that array elements don't have anything 
to do with canvases, it's just that t_canvas includes several things that 
are more or less related, so, don't be too surprised that the red 
rectangle doesn't affect everything.


what you would have liked the red rectangle to be doing in that case ?

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Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Alexandre Porres
I didnt want it to do anything really, just wanted to know what it did...
what about those unit pixels thing? when the canvas is not gopped?
cheers
alex

2010/4/23 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca

 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Alexandre Porres wrote:

  Thanks!seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way,


 Arrays are canvases, and margins are about canvases, so, they affect the
 canvas aspect of them, so, goppable objects are moved and cropped according
 to the red rectangle, yet at the same time, array elements are not affected
 by the red rectangle at all, 

 well, it wouldn't be true to say that array elements don't have anything to
 do with canvases, it's just that t_canvas includes several things that are
 more or less related, so, don't be too surprised that the red rectangle
 doesn't affect everything.

 what you would have liked the red rectangle to be doing in that case ?

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