Re: [PD] margins
hey, I dindt use d-structures, but tried the other things and nothing really seemed to happen... make an array and draw something. open up the gop window until you have a window with only the array. then edit the properties of the table in paralel - the array will change scaling etc. I think I've done something different in the last mail, but I don't remember now what it was. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
I didnt want it to do anything really, just wanted to know what it did... what about those unit pixels thing? when the canvas is not gopped? cheers it basically sets the resolution of the gop. you notice it if you use data structures. or even: create an array, and open the graphical subpatch. draw a wave, and try around different values. (also for any other fields) with donecanvasdialog, I use these to change the zoom of my data-s patches, etc. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
Hallo, Alexandre Porres hat gesagt: // Alexandre Porres wrote: I didnt want it to do anything really, just wanted to know what it did... what about those unit pixels thing? when the canvas is not gopped? They are mostly useful with data structures. You can use them to zoom in and out while keeping the data stored constant and you can invert for example the y-axis, which is useful when you display things like frequency: bigger values are then displayed above smaller values, which looks more natural that the default of bigger y-values going down. Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
Hi, On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote: ok, what are the margins of canvases for? what happens when I change them? I see nothing... :( They move the red rectangle for GOP to a different position. Do you see the rectangle? Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
It's not a really good name... this sets the location of the upper left edge of the red rectangle inside a graph-on-parent canvas -- has no effect for canvases that aren't graph-on-parent. cheers Miiler On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote: ok, what are the margins of canvases for? what happens when I change them? I see nothing... :( thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
Thanks! seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way, cheers 2010/4/22 Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu It's not a really good name... this sets the location of the upper left edge of the red rectangle inside a graph-on-parent canvas -- has no effect for canvases that aren't graph-on-parent. cheers Miiler On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote: ok, what are the margins of canvases for? what happens when I change them? I see nothing... :( thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
Hmm, what about Units per Pixel when GOP is unticked? Cheers Alex 2010/4/22 Alexandre Porres por...@gmail.com Thanks! seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way, cheers 2010/4/22 Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu It's not a really good name... this sets the location of the upper left edge of the red rectangle inside a graph-on-parent canvas -- has no effect for canvases that aren't graph-on-parent. cheers Miiler On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote: ok, what are the margins of canvases for? what happens when I change them? I see nothing... :( thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Alexandre Porres wrote: Thanks!seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way, Arrays are canvases, and margins are about canvases, so, they affect the canvas aspect of them, so, goppable objects are moved and cropped according to the red rectangle, yet at the same time, array elements are not affected by the red rectangle at all, well, it wouldn't be true to say that array elements don't have anything to do with canvases, it's just that t_canvas includes several things that are more or less related, so, don't be too surprised that the red rectangle doesn't affect everything. what you would have liked the red rectangle to be doing in that case ? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] margins
I didnt want it to do anything really, just wanted to know what it did... what about those unit pixels thing? when the canvas is not gopped? cheers alex 2010/4/23 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Alexandre Porres wrote: Thanks!seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way, Arrays are canvases, and margins are about canvases, so, they affect the canvas aspect of them, so, goppable objects are moved and cropped according to the red rectangle, yet at the same time, array elements are not affected by the red rectangle at all, well, it wouldn't be true to say that array elements don't have anything to do with canvases, it's just that t_canvas includes several things that are more or less related, so, don't be too surprised that the red rectangle doesn't affect everything. what you would have liked the red rectangle to be doing in that case ? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list