Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd
Hey Mark, RIAA - the original RIAA curve is the one, forget the variants, especially the IEC variety. It's a high-frequency pre-emphasis filter that overcomes the inherent surface noise of vinyl by boosting the HF, and reducing the. bass so that the needle doesn't jump out of the groove. Also, the curve you most commonly see is the reproduction (de-emphasis) curve (the one which slopes downwards) - this is irrelevant, since anything you play the vinyl back on will have this frequency response built-in. The recording curve is the one which matters - I think it should not be too hard to implement the original equation in C, or even using exp~ or fexp~ - just to send it to the lathe. The problem is that the mechanical nature of vinyl means that, a standard 6dB/octave single-pole highpass filter won't work, because the amplification needed to restore the bass would be too great. It's a sort of kinked highpass filter. See this article: http://www.stereophile.com/features/cut_and_thrust_riaa_lp_equalization Also, the mix must be mono compatible. This mostly means keeping bass frequencies in-phase and trying to make everything below about 220Hz mono. Metastudio 4. I call that a lost metastudio, because I variously did and didn't distribute (leak) it on a personal basis (I was slack/busy, I had kids, you know...) Metastudio 5 on the other hand, is currently being worked on. New synthesis units based on analogue wavefolding techniques, the tracker sequencer with cut and paste, and the quadtracker - a monster 4-channel tracker style sequencer. I need to write a whole load of help files this time also, and some more explicative performance patches...early 2013 Cheers, Ed Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! http://sharktracks.co.uk/ From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, 21 December 2012, 14:40 Subject: Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd hey all thanks for the tips! nicolas: your phasemeter looks great. i will use that. but what is a riaa filter then? is there an implementation in pd? from eds link it looks like there is two such curves. one original RIAA curve and the other as RIAA/IEC curve. btw nicolas your website looks super great and slick. im curious on the topography record you made. any for sale? sound samples? ed: thanks for reminding me of your metastudio project. i just revisited and remembered all the nice stuff you had going on. were not you promoting a version 4 at one point? what happened to that? hopefully ill get something cutting over break before the next semester starts! m On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: These are some abstractions I have made that do some of what you are asking...the compressor~ is vanilla. Mastering is primarily about developing golden ears but you also need to take into account the RIAA curve: http://www.tanker.se/lidstrom/riaa.htm Remember it's mechanical - I understand that once the RIAA is taken into account, the most pressing issue is bass - extreme bass and the needle jumps, too much and the track is too wide so you get less time. If it's set up wrong then tracks will overlap (but there could be some interesting jumping record experiments in there. Best, Ed Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! http://sharktracks.co.uk/ - Original Message - From: Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 21:23 Subject: Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd On 19/12/12 03:10, me.grimm wrote: does anyone know much about mastering? i dont. anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0 Very interesting--- thanks for sharing, I couldn't resist noting (and continuously concentrating) on the ground loop (maybe empathised by the woofer..) I'm not totally sure that was intended though .. which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was thinking just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the best sound maybe i could run it through some kind of mastering patch. has anyone made such a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent masters right from PD? I would think something like: Emulating it as well? I know you lose all the materic thing, but it could be fun. The voice as heard in the video has something fascinating, it would be interesting to find out what modern digital audio compressions (data such as mp3, ogg etc. can create similar suggetions...) Lorenzo. [equilizer~] - but what one? [adaptive/nlms3~]? adaptive_equilization example which im not sure i would know how to use for this | [unauthorized/compressor~] - although there is prob a good vanilla one
Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hey Mark, RIAA - the original RIAA curve is the one, forget the variants, especially the IEC variety. It's a high-frequency pre-emphasis filter that overcomes the inherent surface noise of vinyl by boosting the HF, and reducing the. bass so that the needle doesn't jump out of the groove. But doesn't this greatly matter on where on the vinyl you are? As the more inner track takes a much more narrow curve, different frequencies in the surface noise arrise. At least that's how I understand it and why mastering for vinyl is quite a different trade as it is for other media. drmr Also, the curve you most commonly see is the reproduction (de-emphasis) curve (the one which slopes downwards) - this is irrelevant, since anything you play the vinyl back on will have this frequency response built-in. The recording curve is the one which matters - I think it should not be too hard to implement the original equation in C, or even using exp~ or fexp~ - just to send it to the lathe. The problem is that the mechanical nature of vinyl means that, a standard 6dB/octave single-pole highpass filter won't work, because the amplification needed to restore the bass would be too great. It's a sort of kinked highpass filter. See this article: http://www.stereophile.com/features/cut_and_thrust_riaa_lp_equalization Also, the mix must be mono compatible. This mostly means keeping bass frequencies in-phase and trying to make everything below about 220Hz mono. Metastudio 4. I call that a lost metastudio, because I variously did and didn't distribute (leak) it on a personal basis (I was slack/busy, I had kids, you know...) Metastudio 5 on the other hand, is currently being worked on. New synthesis units based on analogue wavefolding techniques, the tracker sequencer with cut and paste, and the quadtracker - a monster 4-channel tracker style sequencer. I need to write a whole load of help files this time also, and some more explicative performance patches...early 2013 Cheers, Ed Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! http://sharktracks.co.uk/ -- *From:* me.grimm megr...@gmail.com *To:* Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at *Sent:* Friday, 21 December 2012, 14:40 *Subject:* Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd hey all thanks for the tips! nicolas: your phasemeter looks great. i will use that. but what is a riaa filter then? is there an implementation in pd? from eds link it looks like there is two such curves. one original RIAA curve and the other as RIAA/IEC curve. btw nicolas your website looks super great and slick. im curious on the topography record you made. any for sale? sound samples? ed: thanks for reminding me of your metastudio project. i just revisited and remembered all the nice stuff you had going on. were not you promoting a version 4 at one point? what happened to that? hopefully ill get something cutting over break before the next semester starts! m On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: These are some abstractions I have made that do some of what you are asking...the compressor~ is vanilla. Mastering is primarily about developing golden ears but you also need to take into account the RIAA curve: http://www.tanker.se/lidstrom/riaa.htm Remember it's mechanical - I understand that once the RIAA is taken into account, the most pressing issue is bass - extreme bass and the needle jumps, too much and the track is too wide so you get less time. If it's set up wrong then tracks will overlap (but there could be some interesting jumping record experiments in there. Best, Ed Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! http://sharktracks.co.uk/ - Original Message - From: Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 21:23 Subject: Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd On 19/12/12 03:10, me.grimm wrote: does anyone know much about mastering? i dont. anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0 Very interesting--- thanks for sharing, I couldn't resist noting (and continuously concentrating) on the ground loop (maybe empathised by the woofer..) I'm not totally sure that was intended though .. which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was thinking just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the best sound maybe i could run it through some kind of mastering patch. has anyone made such a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent masters right from PD? I would think something like: Emulating it as well? I know you lose all the materic thing, but it could be fun
Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd
hey all thanks for the tips! nicolas: your phasemeter looks great. i will use that. but what is a riaa filter then? is there an implementation in pd? from eds link it looks like there is two such curves. one original RIAA curve and the other as RIAA/IEC curve. btw nicolas your website looks super great and slick. im curious on the topography record you made. any for sale? sound samples? ed: thanks for reminding me of your metastudio project. i just revisited and remembered all the nice stuff you had going on. were not you promoting a version 4 at one point? what happened to that? hopefully ill get something cutting over break before the next semester starts! m On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: These are some abstractions I have made that do some of what you are asking...the compressor~ is vanilla. Mastering is primarily about developing golden ears but you also need to take into account the RIAA curve: http://www.tanker.se/lidstrom/riaa.htm Remember it's mechanical - I understand that once the RIAA is taken into account, the most pressing issue is bass - extreme bass and the needle jumps, too much and the track is too wide so you get less time. If it's set up wrong then tracks will overlap (but there could be some interesting jumping record experiments in there. Best, Ed Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! http://sharktracks.co.uk/ - Original Message - From: Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 21:23 Subject: Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd On 19/12/12 03:10, me.grimm wrote: does anyone know much about mastering? i dont. anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0 Very interesting--- thanks for sharing, I couldn't resist noting (and continuously concentrating) on the ground loop (maybe empathised by the woofer..) I'm not totally sure that was intended though .. which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was thinking just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the best sound maybe i could run it through some kind of mastering patch. has anyone made such a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent masters right from PD? I would think something like: Emulating it as well? I know you lose all the materic thing, but it could be fun. The voice as heard in the video has something fascinating, it would be interesting to find out what modern digital audio compressions (data such as mp3, ogg etc. can create similar suggetions...) Lorenzo. [equilizer~] - but what one? [adaptive/nlms3~]? adaptive_equilization example which im not sure i would know how to use for this | [unauthorized/compressor~] - although there is prob a good vanilla one no? | [expander~] ??? | [exciter~] | [zexy/limiter~] | [hip~ 40] | [lop~ 16000] | [dac~] but i might just make a mess with this m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd
These are some abstractions I have made that do some of what you are asking...the compressor~ is vanilla. Mastering is primarily about developing golden ears but you also need to take into account the RIAA curve: http://www.tanker.se/lidstrom/riaa.htm Remember it's mechanical - I understand that once the RIAA is taken into account, the most pressing issue is bass - extreme bass and the needle jumps, too much and the track is too wide so you get less time. If it's set up wrong then tracks will overlap (but there could be some interesting jumping record experiments in there. Best, Ed Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics! http://sharktracks.co.uk/ - Original Message - From: Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 21:23 Subject: Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd On 19/12/12 03:10, me.grimm wrote: does anyone know much about mastering? i dont. anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0 Very interesting--- thanks for sharing, I couldn't resist noting (and continuously concentrating) on the ground loop (maybe empathised by the woofer..) I'm not totally sure that was intended though .. which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was thinking just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the best sound maybe i could run it through some kind of mastering patch. has anyone made such a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent masters right from PD? I would think something like: Emulating it as well? I know you lose all the materic thing, but it could be fun. The voice as heard in the video has something fascinating, it would be interesting to find out what modern digital audio compressions (data such as mp3, ogg etc. can create similar suggetions...) Lorenzo. [equilizer~] - but what one? [adaptive/nlms3~]? adaptive_equilization example which im not sure i would know how to use for this | [unauthorized/compressor~] - although there is prob a good vanilla one no? | [expander~] ??? | [exciter~] | [zexy/limiter~] | [hip~ 40] | [lop~ 16000] | [dac~] but i might just make a mess with this m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 0 0 561 431 10; #X obj 143 40 env~; #X obj 178 160 swap 100; #X obj 178 183 -; #X obj 178 216 dbtorms; #X obj 143 273 line~; #X obj 107 141 moses 0; #X msg 102 160 100; #X obj 107 198 dbtorms; #X obj 124 292 *~; #X obj 220 289 dbtorms; #X msg 135 160 set 0; #X obj 107 179 change; #X obj 124 347 clip~ -0.9 0.9; #X obj 39 79 swap 100; #X obj 39 103 -; #X obj 107 217 pack f 52; #X obj 39 125 * 0.9; #X obj 220 269 + 100; #X obj 124 315 *~ 2.29087; #X obj 124 13 inlet~; #X obj 255 18 inlet; #X obj 124 380 outlet~; #X obj 254 40 route threshm thresh attack decay makeup; #X obj 143 252 pack f 1; #X obj 143 81 - 90; #X text 205 103 The problem with the line~ here is that attacks generate breakpoints \, and hence clicks. Perhaps it needs to be smoothed?; #X connect 0 0 24 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 1 1 2 1; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 23 0; #X connect 4 0 8 1; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 5 1 1 0; #X connect 5 1 10 0; #X connect 6 0 11 0; #X connect 7 0 15 0; #X connect 8 0 18 0; #X connect 9 0 18 1; #X connect 10 0 11 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 12 0 21 0; #X connect 13 0 14 0; #X connect 13 1 14 1; #X connect 14 0 16 0; #X connect 15 0 4 0; #X connect 16 0 17 0; #X connect 17 0 9 0; #X connect 18 0 12 0; #X connect 19 0 0 0; #X connect 19 0 8 0; #X connect 20 0 22 0; #X connect 22 0 13 0; #X connect 22 0 24 1; #X connect 22 1 24 1; #X connect 22 2 23 1; #X connect 22 3 15 1; #X connect 22 4 17 0; #X connect 23 0 4 0; #X connect 24 0 5 0; #N canvas 9 100 1108 575 10; #N canvas 3 50 450 300 route 0; #X obj 110 56 inlet~; #X obj 109 191 outlet~; #X obj 207 192 outlet~; #X obj 228 47 inlet; #X obj 109 124 *~ 1; #X obj 207 124 *~ 0; #X obj 133 100 == 0; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 0 0 5 0; #X connect 3 0 6 0; #X connect 3 0 5 1; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 2 0; #X connect 6 0 4 1; #X restore 59 130 pd route; #N canvas 3 50 450 300 para_eq~ 0; #X obj 116 171 para_bp2~ 1800 1.6 0 200; #X obj 310 117 switch~; #X obj 318 63 inlet; #X obj 144 90 inlet; #X obj 183 90 inlet; #X obj 222 90 inlet; #X obj 115 50 inlet~; #X obj 111 221 outlet~; #X connect 0 0 7 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 0 1; #X connect 4 0 0 2; #X connect 5 0 0 3; #X connect 6 0 0 0; #X restore 104 252 pd para_eq~; #N canvas 3 50 450 300 para_eq
Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd
Hello, I've done vinyl cutting from pd. One thing important is to have the low frequency in phase. It means you must reduce the stereo component under a certain frequency (ex: 100Hz) and only keep mono. If it's not mono (engraved horizontally) the stereo component (engraved vertically) of the basses will make the groove jump up and down. You can use my phasemeter abstractions (joined) to check your signal, mono is vertical, stereo is horizontal. Don't forget to use a RIAA filter to reduce the importance of basses as well. Best, Nicolas Le 19/12/12 07:30, Richie Cyngler a écrit : Thanks for the amazing vid. I've been thinking about a homemade record lathe for some time now. The disposable plate idea is genius. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:10 PM, me.grimm megr...@gmail.com mailto:megr...@gmail.com wrote: does anyone know much about mastering? i dont. anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0 which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was thinking just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the best sound maybe i could run it through some kind of mastering patch. has anyone made such a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent masters right from PD? I would think something like: [equilizer~] - but what one? [adaptive/nlms3~]? adaptive_equilization example which im not sure i would know how to use for this | [unauthorized/compressor~] - although there is prob a good vanilla one no? | [expander~] ??? | [exciter~] | [zexy/limiter~] | [hip~ 40] | [lop~ 16000] | [dac~] but i might just make a mess with this m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Richie www.glitchpop.com http://www.glitchpop.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://nim.on.free.fr #N canvas 445 74 715 504 10; #X obj 49 33 noise~; #X msg 47 449 \; pd dsp 1; #X obj 47 427 loadbang; #X obj 204 31 noise~; #X text 49 11 mono signal; #X obj 434 34 osc~ 300; #X obj 48 314 catch~ left; #X obj 241 314 catch~ right; #X obj 49 240 throw~ left; #X obj 49 194 *~ 1; #X obj 49 217 *~ 0.5; #X obj 64 261 throw~ right; #X obj 204 237 throw~ left; #X obj 204 214 *~ 0.5; #X obj 284 238 throw~ right; #X obj 204 191 *~ 0; #X obj 284 209 *~ -1; #X text 201 11 opposite phase signal; #X obj 70 57 vsl 15 128 0 1 0 1 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1000 1; #X obj 225 55 vsl 15 128 0 1 0 1 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X text 433 12 related sinus; #X obj 434 221 throw~ left; #X obj 521 220 throw~ right; #X obj 455 58 vsl 15 128 0 1 0 1 empty empty empty 0 -9 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 5200 1; #X obj 434 195 *~ 0; #X obj 521 191 *~ 0; #X obj 521 34 osc~ 450; #X obj 48 343 gem_phasemeter~; #X text 337 314 gem_phasemeter~ - draw phase of an audio signal in GEM; #X text 337 332 inlet~: left and right channels of audio signal; #X text 337 473 nicolas montgermont - 2012; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 15 0; #X connect 5 0 24 0; #X connect 6 0 27 0; #X connect 7 0 27 1; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 10 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 11 0; #X connect 13 0 12 0; #X connect 13 0 16 0; #X connect 15 0 13 0; #X connect 16 0 14 0; #X connect 18 0 9 1; #X connect 19 0 15 1; #X connect 23 0 24 1; #X connect 23 0 25 1; #X connect 24 0 21 0; #X connect 25 0 22 0; #X connect 26 0 25 0; #N canvas 522 22 652 706 10; #X obj 397 310 inlet~; #X obj 433 333 inlet~; #X obj 103 140 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 133 238 gemwin; #X obj 133 169 sel 1 0; #X msg 133 196 reset \, dimen 500 500 \, create \, 1; #X obj 372 385 scopeXYZ~ 256; #X obj 372 237 gemhead; #X obj 372 274 rotateXYZ 0 0 45; #X msg 487 333 draw point; #X obj 487 310 loadbang; #X obj 397 335 *~ 4; #X obj 422 359 *~ 4; #X obj 172 471 pix_snap 500 500; #X obj 172 376 gemhead 49; #X obj 245 377 gemhead 51; #X obj 244 402 t b; #X obj 172 519 pix_texture; #X obj 172 427 alpha 1; #X obj 172 572 square 4; #X obj 172 547 color 1 1 1 0.9; #X msg 182 221 0 \, destroy; #X obj 33 331 gemhead 52; #X obj 33 374 rectangle 0.003 4; #X obj 33 404 rectangle 4 0.003; #X obj 103 278 switch~; #X obj 101 67 loadbang; #X obj 103 123 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X text 123 122 GEM on/off; #X text 123 139 run on/off; #X connect 0 0 11 0; #X connect 1 0 12 0; #X connect 2 0 25 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 4 1 21 0; #X connect 5 0 3 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 6 0; #X connect 9 0 6 0; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 11 0 6 1; #X connect 12 0 6 2; #X connect 13 0 17 0; #X
Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd
On 19/12/12 03:10, me.grimm wrote: does anyone know much about mastering? i dont. anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0 Very interesting--- thanks for sharing, I couldn't resist noting (and continuously concentrating) on the ground loop (maybe empathised by the woofer..) I'm not totally sure that was intended though .. which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was thinking just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the best sound maybe i could run it through some kind of mastering patch. has anyone made such a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent masters right from PD? I would think something like: Emulating it as well? I know you lose all the materic thing, but it could be fun. The voice as heard in the video has something fascinating, it would be interesting to find out what modern digital audio compressions (data such as mp3, ogg etc. can create similar suggetions...) Lorenzo. [equilizer~] - but what one? [adaptive/nlms3~]? adaptive_equilization example which im not sure i would know how to use for this | [unauthorized/compressor~] - although there is prob a good vanilla one no? | [expander~] ??? | [exciter~] | [zexy/limiter~] | [hip~ 40] | [lop~ 16000] | [dac~] but i might just make a mess with this m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd
Thanks for the amazing vid. I've been thinking about a homemade record lathe for some time now. The disposable plate idea is genius. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:10 PM, me.grimm megr...@gmail.com wrote: does anyone know much about mastering? i dont. anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of doing something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0 which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was thinking just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the best sound maybe i could run it through some kind of mastering patch. has anyone made such a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent masters right from PD? I would think something like: [equilizer~] - but what one? [adaptive/nlms3~]? adaptive_equilization example which im not sure i would know how to use for this | [unauthorized/compressor~] - although there is prob a good vanilla one no? | [expander~] ??? | [exciter~] | [zexy/limiter~] | [hip~ 40] | [lop~ 16000] | [dac~] but i might just make a mess with this m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Richie www.glitchpop.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list