Re: [PD] use LADSPA plugins under Mac OS X (pd-extended, plugin~)
On 13 Jun 2009, at 16:14, Rua Haszard Morris wrote: Thanks, I forgot about dssi~. I'll give it a go. What's the story behind the postlude edition?! It's a version of extended that I use for my own personal work. It's extended with some extra stuff added in including csoundapi~, dssi~ + some DSSI plugins, aubio, libxtract etc. My domain used be postlude.co.uk hence 'postlude', but it could just as well be the 'jamiebullock' edition ;-) I fully intend to start merging stuff from postlude into extended proper, it's just a question of time and priorities. best, Jamie -- http://www.jamiebullock.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] use LADSPA plugins under Mac OS X (pd-extended, plugin~)
If both dssi~ and plugin~ are crashing, I'm guessing that you have a buggy plugin in your path. Of course they shouldn't crash, but should handle this gracefully... Someone reported that sine.so crashes dssi~, so you might want to try removing that. Otherwise you could try starting with an empty plugin path and adding plugins one-by-one until you get the crash. Jamie -- http://www.jamiebullock.com On 13 Jun 2009, at 16:26, Rua Haszard Morris wrote: Help patch for dssi~ seems to be crashing for me.. I might get things working if I keep fiddling for a while...! Maybe all my plugins are binary incompatible - I'm using the ones included in the Mac OS X build of Ardour. thanks for the help Rua HM. - Original Message From: Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk To: Rua Haszard Morris ru...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, 13 June, 2009 6:38:10 AM Subject: Re: [PD] use LADSPA plugins under Mac OS X (pd-extended, plugin~) Hi Rua, Have you tried using dssi~? It can host LADSPA and DSSI plugins as well as multiple instances of the same plugin. It's available in svn or (for ease of use) in the Pd-extended 'postlude' edition: http://puredata.info/Members/jb/Pd-extended-postlude/view Jamie -- http://www.jamiebullock.com On 12 Jun 2009, at 20:35, Rua Haszard Morris wrote: Hi - I am trying to use LADSPA plugins within Pd and am having a tough time... attached is an example patch I am trying to get to work. It's simply a mono noise source through a comb filter. The particular plugin is the SWH comb filter (http://plugin.org.uk/ladspa-swh/docs/ladspa-swh.html ). The problem is I get no sound out of the output of plugin~. I am on Mac OS X 10.5.7 using 0.40.3-extended. (I have downloaded 0.41.4 but am having some crash-on-launch problem with that so am sticking with 0.40.3 for now). I have copied all my LADSPA plugins to the appropriate place, and they are found and instantiated correctly by plugin~, info displays correct info etc. Can someone give me some tips on how to use LADSPA plugins in Pd on Mac OS X, or email me an example patch? Note that the case in particular that I care about is using Pd to host sidechain compression (and other nonlinear routing things) - I initially tried getting SWH SC3 (great sidechain compression!) to work in Pd, and audio was passing through, but I couldn't produce any compression, it seemed as though I had the parameter inputs set up incorrectly. So if anyone can give me an example of how to do this I'd _really_ appreciate it. Any tips, info, or clues would be greatly appreciated :) thanks Rua HM. -- http://cartoonbeats.com http://haszaristwocents.blogspot.com http://myspace.com/haszari http://last.fm/music/Haszari ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] use LADSPA plugins under Mac OS X (pd-extended, plugin~)
On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Jamie Bullock wrote: On 13 Jun 2009, at 16:14, Rua Haszard Morris wrote: Thanks, I forgot about dssi~. I'll give it a go. What's the story behind the postlude edition?! It's a version of extended that I use for my own personal work. It's extended with some extra stuff added in including csoundapi~, dssi~ + some DSSI plugins, aubio, libxtract etc. My domain used be postlude.co.uk hence 'postlude', but it could just as well be the 'jamiebullock' edition ;-) I fully intend to start merging stuff from postlude into extended proper, it's just a question of time and priorities. An easy next step would be to make that stuff into a libdir, then people can just drop it into the user externals folder to install it. I guess the hard part is including the dependent libs on Mac OS X and Windows. On Windows, you can just include the DLL in the same folder, on Mac OS X, you have to do a bit more since dylibs use the complete path. You have to tell the pd object to link to the dylibs in the same folder like this: install_name_tool -change /sw/lib/libgavl.1.dylib libgavl.1.dylib readanysf~.pd_darwin And you have to tell the dylib itself that it doesn't have a path: install_name_tool -id libgavl.1.dylib libgavl.1.dylib .hc best, Jamie -- http://www.jamiebullock.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] use LADSPA plugins under Mac OS X (pd-extended, plugin~)
That's a great tip, I have a huge stack of plugins in my path, and of course I only really want to use a few... thanks for the help Rua HM. - Original Message From: Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk To: Rua Haszard Morris ru...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Sunday, 14 June, 2009 10:55:51 AM Subject: Re: [PD] use LADSPA plugins under Mac OS X (pd-extended, plugin~) If both dssi~ and plugin~ are crashing, I'm guessing that you have a buggy plugin in your path. Of course they shouldn't crash, but should handle this gracefully... Someone reported that sine.so crashes dssi~, so you might want to try removing that. Otherwise you could try starting with an empty plugin path and adding plugins one-by-one until you get the crash. Jamie -- http://www.jamiebullock.com On 13 Jun 2009, at 16:26, Rua Haszard Morris wrote: Help patch for dssi~ seems to be crashing for me.. I might get things working if I keep fiddling for a while...! Maybe all my plugins are binary incompatible - I'm using the ones included in the Mac OS X build of Ardour. thanks for the help Rua HM. - Original Message From: Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk To: Rua Haszard Morris ru...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, 13 June, 2009 6:38:10 AM Subject: Re: [PD] use LADSPA plugins under Mac OS X (pd-extended, plugin~) Hi Rua, Have you tried using dssi~? It can host LADSPA and DSSI plugins as well as multiple instances of the same plugin. It's available in svn or (for ease of use) in the Pd-extended 'postlude' edition: http://puredata.info/Members/jb/Pd-extended-postlude/view Jamie -- http://www.jamiebullock.com On 12 Jun 2009, at 20:35, Rua Haszard Morris wrote: Hi - I am trying to use LADSPA plugins within Pd and am having a tough time... attached is an example patch I am trying to get to work. It's simply a mono noise source through a comb filter. The particular plugin is the SWH comb filter (http://plugin.org.uk/ladspa-swh/docs/ladspa-swh.html). The problem is I get no sound out of the output of plugin~. I am on Mac OS X 10.5.7 using 0.40.3-extended. (I have downloaded 0.41.4 but am having some crash-on-launch problem with that so am sticking with 0.40.3 for now). I have copied all my LADSPA plugins to the appropriate place, and they are found and instantiated correctly by plugin~, info displays correct info etc. Can someone give me some tips on how to use LADSPA plugins in Pd on Mac OS X, or email me an example patch? Note that the case in particular that I care about is using Pd to host sidechain compression (and other nonlinear routing things) - I initially tried getting SWH SC3 (great sidechain compression!) to work in Pd, and audio was passing through, but I couldn't produce any compression, it seemed as though I had the parameter inputs set up incorrectly. So if anyone can give me an example of how to do this I'd _really_ appreciate it. Any tips, info, or clues would be greatly appreciated :) thanks Rua HM. -- http://cartoonbeats.com http://haszaristwocents.blogspot.com http://myspace.com/haszari http://last.fm/music/Haszari ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] use LADSPA plugins under Mac OS X (pd-extended, plugin~)
Woops, forgot attachment :) - Original Message From: Rua Haszard Morris ru...@yahoo.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, 12 June, 2009 12:35:56 PM Subject: [PD] use LADSPA plugins under Mac OS X (pd-extended, plugin~) Hi - I am trying to use LADSPA plugins within Pd and am having a tough time... attached is an example patch I am trying to get to work. It's simply a mono noise source through a comb filter. The particular plugin is the SWH comb filter (http://plugin.org.uk/ladspa-swh/docs/ladspa-swh.html). The problem is I get no sound out of the output of plugin~. I am on Mac OS X 10.5.7 using 0.40.3-extended. (I have downloaded 0.41.4 but am having some crash-on-launch problem with that so am sticking with 0.40.3 for now). I have copied all my LADSPA plugins to the appropriate place, and they are found and instantiated correctly by plugin~, info displays correct info etc. Can someone give me some tips on how to use LADSPA plugins in Pd on Mac OS X, or email me an example patch? Note that the case in particular that I care about is using Pd to host sidechain compression (and other nonlinear routing things) - I initially tried getting SWH SC3 (great sidechain compression!) to work in Pd, and audio was passing through, but I couldn't produce any compression, it seemed as though I had the parameter inputs set up incorrectly. So if anyone can give me an example of how to do this I'd _really_ appreciate it. Any tips, info, or clues would be greatly appreciated :) thanks Rua HM. -- http://cartoonbeats.com http://haszaristwocents.blogspot.com http://myspace.com/haszari http://last.fm/music/Haszari ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list combworks.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
