Re: [PD] color position boundaries
On 01/23/2014 07:36 PM, R C wrote: Hi list, I'm trying to track movement with an IR camera on Windows. The motion detection works great with frame diff. The problem starts when I try to get the coordinates that surround the white color produced by the movement. With pix_blob I only get the center of the image, but I was wondering If I can get the boundaries of the movement (white color), like if the movement was framed by a rectange, so I can have something like upper left, down right coordinates. I know that in the max/jitter world there's a jit.findbound object that scans the whole image to find the position of a (range of) color as xy values, but my idea is not to switch and continue with Pd. Would be great if someone wants to share some ideas :) [pix_multiblob] gives you a bounding-box (among other things) gfsamrd IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] create list by header message
On 01/23/2014 07:43 PM, Peter P. wrote: Hi, this might be totally simple, but I am wondering what is the most elegant way of creating a list out of individual messages 12 23 34 45 meaning a list which holds four items, and which is always created at the number '12', and sent out at the nu,ner '45', yielding: list 12 23 34 45 so some kind of parallelization depending on a header value (12). i found [list prepend] to be the easiest accumulator to read (though performance-wise it's less optimal once it comes to **large** lists) adding the logic to convert your starting and stopping delimiters to reset/output the list, is left as an exercise for the user. fgmadrs IOhannes #N canvas 459 190 604 364 10; #X msg 230 92 12 \, 23 \, 34 \, 45; #X obj 149 209 list prepend; #X obj 230 161 list prepend; #X obj 230 183 t a a; #X obj 149 231 print; #X obj 311 136 t b b; #X msg 57 86 bang; #X obj 57 108 t b b; #X text 226 66 data to accumulate; #X text 44 64 output and reset; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 1 1; #X connect 3 1 2 1; #X connect 5 0 2 1; #X connect 5 1 1 1; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 5 0; #X connect 7 1 1 0; signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] comments with trailing | ?
On 01/23/2014 09:43 PM, Peter P. wrote: Hi, I am on Pd-0.45.0 vanilla compiled from Miller's git sources on Linux with Tcl/Tk 8.5.0-2.1 When I insert a comment into a patch, there is always a trailing | (pipe) character (perhaps some sort of a cursor), indicating the width of the comment in edit-mode. that remains visible, also after clicking on the canvas background to end editing the comment. but you are still in edit-mode. Upon file save, close, and re-open the | is gone, until I enter Edit mode. and it will vanish when you leave Edit mode. fmards IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Multi-input USB audio into Raspberry Pi
On 24/01/14 01:52, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi all, I might be really pushing my luck here, what with all the reports of audio issues on the Pi, but has anyone heard of somebody getting multi-input audio working with a multi-input USB 2.0 audio device? I have a dream of running one of these mixers (which does 8 channel audio out over USB 2.0) into Pd and being able to manipulate all of the channels from the mixer in Pd: http://www.alesis.com/multimix8usb20 given they need audio drivers for windows and mac I don't like your chances on linux, let alone a Pi, except perhaps the USB1.1 mode with 2-in 2-out. Apparently the esi gigaport hd+ does 8 channels OUT from the Pis, but I have not heard of any devices working with 8 IN. By the way ... finished my degree and I'm now in Sydney, if you're heading this side of he country sometime let me know. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] mrpeach [midifile] timing off in pd-ext, works with latest pd-vanilla
Howdy all, I've been putting some songs together using mrpeach [midifile] and I calculate the metro playback speed using the tempo time signature (as per an example by Martin on the last ~6 months ago). I noticed that on Pd-Extended 0.43 the playback is off, around 10-20 bpm too slow. The same patch midifile on Pd-Vanilla 0.45-4 plays back at the correct speed. This on the same system with the same audio settings, using the same compiled [midifile] external from the Pd-extended app bundle. Just letting y'all know in case you've run into a similar situation. Out of curiosity, what changed in PD 0.45-4 that fixes this? Soemthing with the metro timing? I must admit I went through the diffs when I updated the libpd core but I don't remember where that might have been ... in any case, I'm glad to see my workflow is saved as playback now works correctly again, with the target being a libpd app using 0.45-4. Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] comments with trailing | ?
Dear IOhannes, dear Jonathan, dear list, I feel ashamed (and old-fashioned) as I have not seen this new feature of Pd as a feature I am afraid. Thanks for pointing it out to me. I think it is a nice addon, but also wonder if there is a nice way to disable this functionality at all. Is there an easy way to do it, or to diff the source files of Pd accordingly? Thank you again, best, P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] console font size really big
Johnathan WIlkins wrote: I'd be curious to know what window manager you are using. Try going into pd-gui.tcl and find the line: # tk scaling 1 Remove the #, save the file, and then restart Pd. See if that solves the problem. (Depending on how you are running Pd, you may need to have privileges to edit that file) -Jonathan I am using fluxbox. Indeed, editing /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl/pd-gui.tcl to yield tk scaling 1 solved the problem for me. Interestingly there is a file /usr/local/bin/pd-gui.tcl present as well, whose changes do not have an effet. This Pd is installed using make install from within Miller's git sources. I wonder why pd-gui.tcl is installed twice on my system, the latter one also being in my $PATH. Thank you again for this quick one Jonathan. There is a comment related to tk scaling in this very file just above the scaling option: # we are not using Tk scaling, so fix it to 1 on all platforms. This # guarantees that patches will be pixel-exact on every platform # 2013.07.19 msp - trying without this to see what breaks - it's # having # deleterious effects on dialog window font sizes. Would be interesting to know wonder what the deletrious effects were. But, hey- problem solved for me. thanks cheers P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] comments with trailing | ?
Delete these lines in g_text.c:
/* for comments, just draw a bar on RHS if unlocked; when a visible
canvas is unlocked we have to call this anew on all comments, and when
locked we erase them all via the annoying commentbar tag. */
else if (x-te_type == T_TEXT glist-gl_edit)
{
if (firsttime)
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c create line\
%d %d %d %d -tags [list %sR commentbar]\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist),
x2, y1, x2, y2, tag);
else
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c coords %sR %d %d %d %d\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist), tag, x2, y1, x2, y2);
}
(however, that won't disable the functionality; just the ugly marks.)
I'm still trying to think of something less ugly - tell me if you have any
ideas...
cheers
Miller
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:23:35PM +0100, Peter P. wrote:
Dear IOhannes, dear Jonathan,
dear list,
I feel ashamed (and old-fashioned) as I have not seen this new feature
of Pd as a feature I am afraid. Thanks for pointing it out to me.
I think it is a nice addon, but also wonder if there is a nice way to
disable this functionality at all. Is there an easy way to do it, or
to diff the source files of Pd accordingly?
Thank you again,
best, P
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Re: [PD] mouse icons
Simon Wise wrote: They are certainly are system icons, they change if I change the system cursor theme. In xfce different sets of icons are selectable as themes for the mouse. But here there has always been one missing ... the one shown while hovering over an inlet or outlet in edit mode, but it never bothered me enough to find out why, and anyway I've got an oldish pd installed so it may have been fixed already. thank you! I was able to select a theme that suited me better using (under Debian) sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme Now I am looking for a way to disable the arrow-cursor that is mirrored directions when you hover the mouse over an object that can be clicked and use the normal error for it. But somehow I can't find the file that holds the cursors themselves. Otherwise I could delete the mirrored arrow file and use a symlink pointing to the original arrow. I feel that there could be less different mouse cursors in Pd in general, somehow it is already quite a lot: Non-edit mode: Arrow over canvas Arrow over clickable objects facing other direction (necessary?) Edit-mode: Edit arrow Patch-cord cycle Select patchcord for deletion Change object size via right border but that's just my 2 cents and possibly not worth spending time on. best, P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] comments with trailing | ?
* Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu [2014-01-24 23:36]:
Delete these lines in g_text.c:
/* for comments, just draw a bar on RHS if unlocked; when a visible
canvas is unlocked we have to call this anew on all comments, and when
locked we erase them all via the annoying commentbar tag. */
else if (x-te_type == T_TEXT glist-gl_edit)
{
if (firsttime)
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c create line\
%d %d %d %d -tags [list %sR commentbar]\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist),
x2, y1, x2, y2, tag);
else
sys_vgui(.x%lx.c coords %sR %d %d %d %d\n,
glist_getcanvas(glist), tag, x2, y1, x2, y2);
}
(however, that won't disable the functionality; just the ugly marks.)
nice hack, thanks it sure makes me wonder less if I left any unwanted
characters in my comments. :)
I'm still trying to think of something less ugly - tell me if you have any
ideas...
I faintly remember a problem with the comments in Tcl/Tk not really
honouring line feeds correctly (or Return character), right? I mean if
the line feeds were working and would show up identically after saving
and loading the file from disk, then there would be no need to resize
comments at all. Would this issue still be a problem in current Pd?
Resizability sure makes sense with objects where one would need to see
different outlets more easily.
Thanks! best, Peter
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Re: [PD] console font size really big
On 01/24/2014 05:31 PM, Peter P. wrote: Johnathan WIlkins wrote: I'd be curious to know what window manager you are using. Try going into pd-gui.tcl and find the line: # tk scaling 1 Remove the #, save the file, and then restart Pd. See if that solves the problem. (Depending on how you are running Pd, you may need to have privileges to edit that file) -Jonathan I am using fluxbox. Indeed, editing /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl/pd-gui.tcl to yield tk scaling 1 solved the problem for me. Interestingly there is a file /usr/local/bin/pd-gui.tcl present as well, whose changes do not have an effet. This Pd is installed using make install from within Miller's git sources. I wonder why pd-gui.tcl is installed twice on my system, the latter one also being in my $PATH. Thank you again for this quick one Jonathan. There is a comment related to tk scaling in this very file just above the scaling option: # we are not using Tk scaling, so fix it to 1 on all platforms. This # guarantees that patches will be pixel-exact on every platform # 2013.07.19 msp - trying without this to see what breaks - it's # having # deleterious effects on dialog window font sizes. Would be interesting to know wonder what the deletrious effects were. Tk has a very friendly but very small community without the resources to make sure everything works as advertised across all platforms. So depending on which platform you use you'll see different symptoms, depending on how well tk is integrated with the guts of the window manager (in GNU/Linux, this would be not at all), the accuracy of the info delivered to Tk from the OS/window manager, implementation features/bugs in a particular graphics subsystem, etc. One detail is that if you let [tk scaling] do its thing, you'll see problems in the postscript output if you print a patch. There's an ugly fix somewhere for this which requires hacking the ps output to scale it by the tk scaling factor. But if you hard code tk scaling to 1 users on Windows will see font problems from Tk's half-baked, hardly documented theming engine that would require _really_ ugly hacks all over Pd to fix. -Jonathan But, hey- problem solved for me. thanks cheers P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] non linear distortion
Hi , i been reading that the richness of the sound in tube amplifiers is due natural non-linearities inherent in tube amplifiers. I was wondering if there are ways to simulate or recreate these kind of non linearities for distortions. are there any nonlinear distortions in pd? or do anybody have tried implementing something like this? cheers Xiao. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] console font size really big
* Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com [2014-01-25 00:28]: On 01/24/2014 05:31 PM, Peter P. wrote: Johnathan WIlkins wrote: I'd be curious to know what window manager you are using. Try going into pd-gui.tcl and find the line: # tk scaling 1 Remove the #, save the file, and then restart Pd. See if that solves the problem. (Depending on how you are running Pd, you may need to have privileges to edit that file) -Jonathan I am using fluxbox. Indeed, editing /usr/local/lib/pd/tcl/pd-gui.tcl to yield tk scaling 1 solved the problem for me. Interestingly there is a file /usr/local/bin/pd-gui.tcl present as well, whose changes do not have an effet. This Pd is installed using make install from within Miller's git sources. I wonder why pd-gui.tcl is installed twice on my system, the latter one also being in my $PATH. Thank you again for this quick one Jonathan. There is a comment related to tk scaling in this very file just above the scaling option: # we are not using Tk scaling, so fix it to 1 on all platforms. This # guarantees that patches will be pixel-exact on every platform # 2013.07.19 msp - trying without this to see what breaks - it's # having # deleterious effects on dialog window font sizes. Would be interesting to know wonder what the deletrious effects were. Tk has a very friendly but very small community without the resources to make sure everything works as advertised across all platforms. So depending on which platform you use you'll see different symptoms, depending on how well tk is integrated with the guts of the window manager (in GNU/Linux, this would be not at all), the accuracy of the info delivered to Tk from the OS/window manager, implementation features/bugs in a particular graphics subsystem, etc. One detail is that if you let [tk scaling] do its thing, you'll see problems in the postscript output if you print a patch. There's an ugly fix somewhere for this which requires hacking the ps output to scale it by the tk scaling factor. But if you hard code tk scaling to 1 users on Windows will see font problems from Tk's half-baked, hardly documented theming engine that would require _really_ ugly hacks all over Pd to fix. Thanks again Jonathan, great description! So I'll stick to scaling myself unless I want to print a .ps version of the patch. best, Peter ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] create list by header message
Dear IOhannes, Roman, Jonathan, thank you for your kind replies, and the examples you posted! It helped me quite a bit! best, P * IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at [2014-01-24 10:48]: On 01/23/2014 07:43 PM, Peter P. wrote: Hi, this might be totally simple, but I am wondering what is the most elegant way of creating a list out of individual messages 12 23 34 45 meaning a list which holds four items, and which is always created at the number '12', and sent out at the nu,ner '45', yielding: list 12 23 34 45 so some kind of parallelization depending on a header value (12). i found [list prepend] to be the easiest accumulator to read (though performance-wise it's less optimal once it comes to **large** lists) adding the logic to convert your starting and stopping delimiters to reset/output the list, is left as an exercise for the user. fgmadrs IOhannes #N canvas 459 190 604 364 10; #X msg 230 92 12 \, 23 \, 34 \, 45; #X obj 149 209 list prepend; #X obj 230 161 list prepend; #X obj 230 183 t a a; #X obj 149 231 print; #X obj 311 136 t b b; #X msg 57 86 bang; #X obj 57 108 t b b; #X text 226 66 data to accumulate; #X text 44 64 output and reset; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 1 1; #X connect 3 1 2 1; #X connect 5 0 2 1; #X connect 5 1 1 1; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 5 0; #X connect 7 1 1 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
