Re: [PD] [Bulk] pd in a eurorack modular system

2015-04-15 Thread Dan Wilcox
I’d say at least a couple of seconds, in practice.

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 On Apr 15, 2015, at 5:29 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
 
 From: Joe White white.j...@gmail.com mailto:white.j...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD] [Bulk] pd in a eurorack modular system
 Date: April 15, 2015 at 5:28:55 AM EDT
 To: Alessio Degani alessio.deg...@ymail.com 
 mailto:alessio.deg...@ymail.com
 Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at 
 pd-list@lists.iem.at mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at
 
 
 Pretty much instant AFAIK
 
 On 15 April 2015 at 10:07, Alessio Degani alessio.deg...@ymail.com 
 mailto:alessio.deg...@ymail.com wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 I'm interested in experimenting with this kind of devices.
 
 I've a question: how long is the boot time? I mean, from switch on to fully 
 operational.
 
 Thank you
 
 Cheers
 
 A.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [OT] unsubscribing users: small change of rules

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[PD] examples of classic Sample and Hold

2015-04-15 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Hello Everyone


I am wondering if people would be willing if they have an example of Sample and 
Hold to use for a project i am working on.

I am interested in the classic sounding Sample and Hold insanity please share a 
patch if you have one so i may learn on how to make one properly

the one in the help files is not the kind i am talking about


i hope this makes sense


pp


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Re: [PD] examples of classic Sample and Hold

2015-04-15 Thread William Huston
As I understand it, a classic sample and hold
is capturing the instantaneous input voltage
of an incoming signal, and remembering it.

[metro 5]
[adc~]
|/
[snapshot~]
|
[f]

The [metro 5] is also banging on the [snapshot~]'s hot inlet
with [adc~] if want samples at 5ms intervals.

However, these days, in my own mind at least,
I think about sample and hold as meaning,
read a few seconds of audio from a source
into a memory, and loop it.  I don't know if others
think this way also.

That would be a more complex circuit.

BH





On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu
wrote:

  Hello Everyone


  I am wondering if people would be willing if they have an example of
 Sample and Hold to use for a project i am working on.

 I am interested in the classic sounding Sample and Hold insanity please
 share a patch if you have one so i may learn on how to make one properly

 the one in the help files is not the kind i am talking about


  i hope this makes sense


  pp


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 Digital Worlds Institute
 University of Florida, USA
 (352)294-2020

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Re: [PD] examples of classic Sample and Hold

2015-04-15 Thread i go bananas
for sample-and-hold, as it is usually implemented for pitch in a synth, you
actually don't even NEED to use the samphold~ object!  you can just use a
metro to simulate the clock, and then a random to simulate the noise input
(that's what was usually used for synth sample and hold madness).


[metro 125]
|
[random 5000]
|
[/ 100]
|
[+ 40]
|
[mtof]
|
[phasor~]
|
[*~ 2]
|
[-~ 1]

likewise, you can use the same process for sample and hold on a filter by
just adding a short [line~ 10] after the [mtof] and feeding that into the
2nd inlet of [vcf~]

or of course, you could run one process on the pitch and another on the
filter, but just make sure to use a slightly different random number base
to make them independent,



On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:37 AM, William Huston williamahus...@gmail.com
wrote:

 As I understand it, a classic sample and hold
 is capturing the instantaneous input voltage
 of an incoming signal, and remembering it.

 [metro 5]
 [adc~]
 |/
 [snapshot~]
 |
 [f]

 The [metro 5] is also banging on the [snapshot~]'s hot inlet
 with [adc~] if want samples at 5ms intervals.

 However, these days, in my own mind at least,
 I think about sample and hold as meaning,
 read a few seconds of audio from a source
 into a memory, and loop it.  I don't know if others
 think this way also.

 That would be a more complex circuit.

 BH





 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Pagano, Patrick 
 p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:

  Hello Everyone


  I am wondering if people would be willing if they have an example of
 Sample and Hold to use for a project i am working on.

 I am interested in the classic sounding Sample and Hold insanity please
 share a patch if you have one so i may learn on how to make one properly

 the one in the help files is not the kind i am talking about


  i hope this makes sense


  pp


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Re: [PD] [Bulk] pd in a eurorack modular system

2015-04-15 Thread Alessio Degani

Hi list,

I'm interested in experimenting with this kind of devices.

I've a question: how long is the boot time? I mean, from switch on to 
fully operational.


Thank you

Cheers

A.

On 14/04/2015 01:52, Pagano, Patrick wrote:


Hi


I am building my first modualr system with a little grant money i got 
for research. For the first 1000$ i got a beginner Pittsburgh Modular 
system and one envelope module. FOr the second 1000$ to complete the 
grant i am considering




http://www.qubitelectronix.com/#!nebulae/c23nm 
http://www.qubitelectronix.com/#%21nebulae/c23nm



The nebulae says it will run custom Csound and pd code which i find 
very intriguing.


i would LOVE to buid a patch with about 3 simple effects that are not 
in the traditional analog modular world a sample and hold and a simple RM



Granulation

PV

FFT

SH

Ring Mod


and be able to toggle through the effects. It says it runs pd-vanilla


Has anyone on the list seen/used or can confrim that the code actually 
runs properly


I have been searching through the web and Muffwiggler and i have not 
seen any proof of it running so i am skeptical but still curious


before i lunk down 400+4 i want it to run my patches or at least a 
detailed how to



please let me know if you have any experience with it.


/Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A/
Audio and Projection Design Faculty
Digital Worlds Institute
University of Florida, USA
(352)294-2020


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Re: [PD] [Bulk] pd in a eurorack modular system

2015-04-15 Thread Joe White
Pretty much instant AFAIK

On 15 April 2015 at 10:07, Alessio Degani alessio.deg...@ymail.com wrote:

  Hi list,

 I'm interested in experimenting with this kind of devices.

 I've a question: how long is the boot time? I mean, from switch on to
 fully operational.

 Thank you

 Cheers

 A.


 On 14/04/2015 01:52, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

 Hi


  I am building my first modualr system with a little grant money i got
 for research. For the first 1000$ i got a beginner Pittsburgh Modular
 system and one envelope module. FOr the second 1000$ to complete the grant
 i am considering



  http://www.qubitelectronix.com/#!nebulae/c23nm


  The nebulae says it will run custom Csound and pd code which i find very
 intriguing.

 i would LOVE to buid a patch with about 3 simple effects that are not in
 the traditional analog modular world a sample and hold and a simple RM


  Granulation

 PV

 FFT

 SH

 Ring Mod


  and be able to toggle through the effects. It says it runs pd-vanilla


  Has anyone on the list seen/used or can confrim that the code actually
 runs properly

 I have been searching through the web and Muffwiggler and i have not seen
 any proof of it running so i am skeptical but still curious

 before i lunk down 400+4 i want it to run my patches or at least a
 detailed how to


  please let me know if you have any experience with it.


   *Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A*
 Audio and Projection Design Faculty
 Digital Worlds Institute
 University of Florida, USA
 (352)294-2020


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[PD] [PD-announce] [OT] unsubscribing users: small change of rules

2015-04-15 Thread IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig)
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Re: [PD] Index of the maximum value in a list

2015-04-15 Thread Lorenzo Sutton


On 14/04/2015 01:00, Pierre Desprats wrote:

Hi,

it would be really helpfull if someone had patched something to obtain
the index of the maximum value in a list,

Or maybe a [max] object with more than 2 inputs ?


The attached hacks the sequencer example from the [list] help. Clearly 
it could be made a bit prettier and turned into an abstraction...


Hope it helps.

Lorenzo.
#N canvas 354 110 792 570 10;
#X obj 123 109 list split 1, f 18;
#X obj 186 166 list append;
#X obj 123 230 t f b, f 6;
#X msg 550 113 0;
#X obj 564 306 f;
#X obj 597 306 + 1;
#X obj 334 452 spigot;
#X msg 122 2 20 22 -3 4 100 6 8 200;
#X obj 407 516 print index_of_greatest;
#X msg 294 2 1000 -50 20 12200 500;
#X msg 463 2 1 4 3 2;
#X obj 198 363 spigot;
#X obj 284 166 del 1;
#X obj 407 493 f, f 12;
#X msg 544 2 5 4 3 2 1;
#X obj 550 137 t f f;
#X obj 123 206 pipe 0.001;
#X obj 333 366 pipe;
#X obj 124 252 t f f f b;
#X obj 123 56 t l l b;
#X obj 313 109 list split 1;
#X obj 353 166 t f;
#X msg 626 2 -3 -6 -100 -2 -5;
#X obj 124 406 f, f 4;
#X obj 124 517 print greatest;
#X obj 284 193 t b b, f 18;
#X text 600 123 reset counter and index to 0, f 16;
#X text 631 290 counter - i.e. list index, f 11;
#X text 509 442 Hold the current index of the greatest number. This
is 0 at the beginning and increases only if a larger number is found
, f 25;
#X text -13 135 Taken from the sequenccer example in the [list] help
, f 18;
#X text 377 54 First element in list will be the first to be compared
, f 20;
#X text 427 97 |;
#X text 405 108 --+;
#X msg -4 0 1 2 2 0 2 2 0;
#X obj 237 331 =, f 17;
#X text -6 -28 In this case the last is taken, f 17;
#X text 311 486 This [f] is banged at the end, f 11;
#X text -13 293 Is current number = than the previous? If TRUE: \;
1 let its index pas and 2 make it the new number to compare against
, f 15;
#X connect 0 0 16 0;
#X connect 0 1 1 1;
#X connect 0 2 12 0;
#X connect 1 0 0 0;
#X connect 2 0 18 0;
#X connect 2 1 1 0;
#X connect 3 0 15 0;
#X connect 4 0 5 0;
#X connect 4 0 17 0;
#X connect 5 0 4 1;
#X connect 6 0 13 1;
#X connect 7 0 19 0;
#X connect 9 0 19 0;
#X connect 10 0 19 0;
#X connect 11 0 23 1;
#X connect 11 0 34 1;
#X connect 12 0 25 0;
#X connect 13 0 8 0;
#X connect 14 0 19 0;
#X connect 15 0 13 1;
#X connect 15 1 4 1;
#X connect 16 0 2 0;
#X connect 17 0 6 0;
#X connect 18 0 11 0;
#X connect 18 1 34 0;
#X connect 18 3 4 0;
#X connect 19 0 0 0;
#X connect 19 1 20 0;
#X connect 19 2 3 0;
#X connect 20 1 21 0;
#X connect 21 0 34 1;
#X connect 22 0 19 0;
#X connect 23 0 24 0;
#X connect 25 0 23 0;
#X connect 25 1 13 0;
#X connect 33 0 19 0;
#X connect 34 0 6 1;
#X connect 34 0 11 1;
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