Re: [PD] GUI freeze

[hi via Pd-list]

Ai, nice!

sounds exiting! I cannot test, because im such a linux newbie and tomorrow my 
show must run on the machine. 

would be great if it has been fixed, im exited to try nexttime!

love,

-j-

Am 27.09.2017 um 22:37 schrieb Roman Haefeli :

> On Mit, 2017-09-27 at 12:42 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
>> Fix is in master on github...
>> 
>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-dat
>> 
> 
> I was trying really hard to trigger the freeze, but wasn't able to. The
> most I got was a the GUI being stuck for a second, but it never froze
> for good. This is slightly exciting. Will see how to next session goes
> and will be much more excited if it stays freeze-less for 2-3 hours.
> 
> Thanks a lot <3
> 
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[PD] Purr Data 2.3.2

[Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list]

Hi List,Purr Data 2.3.2 is now available:
https://github.com/jonwwilkes/purr-data/releases/tag/2.3.2
Please report bugs here:
https://git.purrdata.net/jwilkes/purr-data
This release fixes the "-unique" flag for running multiple 
instances, fixes [pd~] on Windows, and fixes a GUI bug 
and some errors in a data structure demo game.
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Re: [PD] Download a list of packages (Deken)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Hi, I wouldn't see much purpose in that, despite maybe having a quick way
to find out all that there it's uploaded to deken, and then browse them one
by one to see what they're worth for...

Maybe another approach would be to have a resource to document all these
libraries/externals that are up there. And then people can browse and
download/check what they're interested in.

just a thought

cheers



2017-09-27 17:15 GMT-03:00 :

> Hi,
>
> Sorry for the last mail...
>
> I'm trying to get URLs of libraries for each platform, download them and
> unzip them. The idea is to make a big package for each platform.
>
> Bash scripts first steps : http://reso-nance.org/public/
> pd-malinette/packages-scripts/pd-package-scripts.zip
>
> I've use http://deken.puredata.info, but may be there is a better way.
> I've wrote an "externals.txt" file with my libraries for each platform and
> I get the urls after.
>
> Report : It is very hard to get the right URLs for each platforms and
> architectures. For instances, libraries names are "iemlib-v0.0.extended" or
> "iemlib-v0.0extended" ..
>
> An easiest way could be to name last stable libraries with "latest" for
> instance, but I don't know how hard is it to implement for developers. I
> think we need to top the best package for each library for each platform.
>
>
> Related topics:
> - ARCH STRING. https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues/161
> - BATCH DOWNLOAD. https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues/94
>
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Re: [PD] GUI freeze

[Roman Haefeli]

On Mit, 2017-09-27 at 12:42 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> Fix is in master on github...
> 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-dat
> 

I was trying really hard to trigger the freeze, but wasn't able to. The
most I got was a the GUI being stuck for a second, but it never froze
for good. This is slightly exciting. Will see how to next session goes
and will be much more excited if it stays freeze-less for 2-3 hours.

Thanks a lot <3

Roman 

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[PD] [PD-announce] PdPcHb Pure Data Patching Circle Hebden Bridge #1

[Julian Brooks]

Pure Data Patching Circle Hebden Bridge (PdPcHb)

"At Patching Circles, you can work on personal projects, professional
projects, school projects, ask for help, help others, or just patch quietly
to yourself in a room full of other people patching patches and helping
other people patch."

7-9pm Tuesday 3rd October 2017 (meeting bi-weekly) @:

Big Tin Shed
Alternative Technology Centre
Unit 7,
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Sessions run in association with:
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Who are running Scavengers Club for ages 8+ from 5pm

Small donations appreciated (£2) to cover basic costs

Please contact me for further PdPcHb info

Hope to see you there,

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[PD] Download a list of packages (Deken)

[abel . jerome]

Hi,

Sorry for the last mail... 

I'm trying to get URLs of libraries for each platform, download them and unzip 
them. The idea is to make a big package for each platform.

Bash scripts first steps : 
http://reso-nance.org/public/pd-malinette/packages-scripts/pd-package-scripts.zip

I've use http://deken.puredata.info, but may be there is a better way. I've 
wrote an "externals.txt" file with my libraries for each platform and I get the 
urls after. 

Report : It is very hard to get the right URLs for each platforms and 
architectures. For instances, libraries names are "iemlib-v0.0.extended" or 
"iemlib-v0.0extended" ..

An easiest way could be to name last stable libraries with "latest" for 
instance, but I don't know how hard is it to implement for developers. I think 
we need to top the best package for each library for each platform.


Related topics:
- ARCH STRING. https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues/161
- BATCH DOWNLOAD. https://github.com/pure-data/deken/issues/94

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[PD] Download a list of package

[abel . jerome]

tof (Linux-x86_64-64
Linux-aarch64-64)

iemlib-v0.0.extended
iemlib-v0.0extended




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Re: [PD] pd~ -nogui subprocess [stdout]

[Roman Haefeli]

On Die, 2017-09-26 at 21:14 +, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
> I've tested this TMP and the -nogui subprocess is fixed.

And you write that as a response to a post that was part of totally
unrelated thread named "GUI freeze"? What you do is very confusing.
Please don't do such things in mailing lists.

Roman



> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
> 
> > 
> > I found at least one tcl-error bug and tried to fix it... can you
> > try this
> > version...
> > 
> > http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/pd-tmp.msw.zip
> > http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/pd-tmp.windows-installer.exe
> > 
> > thanks
> > Miller
> On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > 
> > I believe I have this fixed... am now trying to get my compilation
> > chain
> > working again for windows so I can test before pushing to git
> > planning
> > to include this in 0.48-1.
> > 
> > cheers
> > Miller
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 12:24:34AM -0400, Fede Camara Halac wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yes, same here. Also happening in debian stretch. The subprocess
> > > doesn't seem to work with -nogui.
> > > 
> > > fdch.github.io/tv
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Sep 21, 2017, at 9:51 PM, Miller Puckette 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I just had the same thing happen with 0.37 - switched to 0.48
> > > > and the
> > > > problem went away... so there's something messed up somewhere
> > > > that I'm
> > > > failing to pin down.  As with William, taking off the -nogui
> > > > flag makes the
> > > > problem go away, but I'm now wondering if it just comes and
> > > > goes at random.
> > > > 
> > > > Anyone else gettin this problem?
> > > > 
> > > > thanks
> > > > Miller
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:36:50AM -0400, William Brent
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi list,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've recreated a problem I'm having with [pd~] using -nogui
> > > > > in the attached
> > > > > patches. The subprocess patch simply sends a bang and a
> > > > > stream of random
> > > > > numbers to [stdout]. When running the subprocess with a GUI,
> > > > > I get the
> > > > > expected behavior (data sent to [stdout] in the subprocess
> > > > > appears at the
> > > > > outlet of [pd~] in the master process). When I run it with
> > > > > -nogui, nothing
> > > > > appears at the outlet of [pd~].
> > > > > 
> > > > > I looked around for a thread or bug tracker issue on this,
> > > > > but didn't see
> > > > > anything. Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong
> > > > > here?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Pd 0.48.0
> > > > > Mac OS 10.11.6
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > William
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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Re: [PD] GUI freeze

[Miller Puckette]

Fix is in master on github...

https://github.com/pure-data/pure-dat

cheers
Miller

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 09:40:42PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Die, 2017-09-26 at 11:38 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > I found at least one tcl-error bug and tried to fix it... can you try
> > this
> > version...
> > 
> > http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/pd-tmp.msw.zip
> > http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/pd-tmp.windows-installer.exe
> 
> 
> Thanks. I cannot test as easily on Window as I can on Linux. I only
> have Windows as virtualized system and I run out of CPU a lot before I
> trigger the issues at hand. Is there a git branch containing the fix or
> some other access to the source? I could copy over the changed source
> files from the Windows build, if I know what changed.
> 
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Re: [PD] GUI freeze

[Roman Haefeli]

On Die, 2017-09-26 at 11:38 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> I found at least one tcl-error bug and tried to fix it... can you try
> this
> version...
> 
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/pd-tmp.msw.zip
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/pd-tmp.windows-installer.exe


Thanks. I cannot test as easily on Window as I can on Linux. I only
have Windows as virtualized system and I run out of CPU a lot before I
trigger the issues at hand. Is there a git branch containing the fix or
some other access to the source? I could copy over the changed source
files from the Windows build, if I know what changed.

Roman


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Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

On 09/27/2017 09:54 AM, Max wrote:


On 2017년 09월 27일 14:45, abel.jer...@free.fr wrote:
After removing gem linux package, 

IOhannes said to me: "Why would you do that?"


well, if you want to compile your own gem externals then you need to 
download and compile the gem source right?


J




If you remove the gem package, you also can't install all the 
gem-plugins that you may want to be managed by apt-get








this error message appears in Pd - verbose mode : "Gem.pd_linux: 
libftgl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"


When I "sudo apt-get install libftgl2", it is ok.

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À: "Jérôme Abel" 
Cc: "Pd-list" 
Envoyé: Mercredi 27 Septembre 2017 11:17:01
Objet: Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?




I've installed Gem via Deken (find externals), but it was not enough

Please could you provide errors returned by Pd console log 4 (all),
while running '-verbose'?









Antoine Rousseau
http://www.metalu.net __ http://www.metaluachahuter.com/



2017-09-27 9:53 GMT+02:00 Jérôme Abel < abel.jer...@free.fr > :


Hi,

On new Ubuntu computers, I've installed Gem via Deken (find
externals), but it was not enough. I need also to install it with
apt-get install gem. Some dependencies seems required, may be opengl
libs ?

Computers (cat /proc/version) : Linux version 4.4.0-81-generic
(buildd@lgw01-02) (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu
5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4) ) #104-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 14 08:17:06 UTC
2017

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Re: [PD] how to change the cursor icon (tcl)

[Liam Goodacre]

Someone had too much fun with these...

I propose changing the default PD cursor to "pirate".

From: Dan Wilcox 
Sent: 27 September 2017 09:16
To: Federico Camara Halac; Liam Goodacre
Cc: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] how to change the cursor icon (tcl)

As Pd uses Tk for it's guis, check the available Tk cursor names: 
http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/TkCmd/cursors.htm

There are a few that are system dependent.

On Sep 26, 2017, at 10:21 PM, 
pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:

Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 16:21:42 -0400
From: Federico Camara Halac >
To: Liam Goodacre >, Pd-List
>
Subject: Re: [PD] how to change the cursor icon (tcl)

I don't know of any other way to change the cursor type other than sysgui
and *configure -cursor*. Also I don't know what you mean by pdsend
finished. I guess in the end this might be system dependent and probably a
tcl version thing that I simply don't know ;) all my knowledge here comes
from hacking through this amazing code


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Re: [PD] trouble with pd-0.48-0 and multiple screens

[Raphaël Ilias]

Hi,

I tested the mac build given by Dan :
http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.48-1-multimonitor.app.zip

It works here !

My setup again :
- MBP 2012 with mac OS X Yosemite 10.10.5
- second monitor set on the left of laptop/main screen.

I can place a subpatch window on the left/second monitor, close it, and it
when I click the subpatch to open it again, it appears at its previous
position, on the left screen (and not in the nowhere limbo anymore).
I attach my test patch, not sure that makes sense

Thank you very much !
(sorry Dan for making wait, as I told you, I don't have access everyday to
the studio where I have a second monitor... sometimes my life is not so
hightech !)

I'm not familiar with git-thing (I spent ten minutes wondering what PR
stands for) so I don't know if I tested the updated version of IOhannes.

thanks everyone, this will be very helpful here soon when I will be back
working on big patch with many windows...

bye

Raphaël


2017-09-27 12:27 GMT+02:00 Dan Wilcox :

> As a followup, please test this possible solution: Pd-0.48-1-
> multimonitor.app.zip
> 
>
> I spent time on fixing this so I would like to at least get a confirmation
> from those that posted the initial thread.
>
> On Sep 22, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> Note: IOhannes has an updated PR: https://github.com/pure-
> data/pure-data/pull/225
>
> The previous build should work them same.
>
> On Sep 21, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
>
> Ok, I believe I have a fix: https://github.com/pure-
> data/pure-data/pull/224
>
> You can download and try a test build for newer Macs (10.9+): Pd-0.48-1-
> multimonitor.app.zip
> 
>
> From doing some research, it seems support for negative positions was
> added to Tk a while ago and it seems to be working fine. I basically just
> removed the hard clipping to 0 and only try to do the manual placement if
> Tk is 8.4.
>
>
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Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[abel . jerome]

> If you remove the gem package, you also can't install all the  gem-plugins 
> that you may want to be managed by apt-get

That's my question: 
On Linux, installing Gem via Deken is not enough, we need installing it with 
"apt-get".

Goal:
I want to know the installation process in order to compress a Pd project for 
other computers with no need steps of installation. I hope it is possible to 
share Pd projects using Gem with just .zip directory.

Thx
j


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Re: [PD] Command line pd --help launches pd

[Jack]

To get help it is :
$ pd -help
See :
$ man pd

There is no option with --

But, yes the option -help disappeared on my Pd-0.48.0 ("test5") (Ubuntu
17.04).
And if you start Pd with a wrong option, Pd start and return in the
terminal :
usage: pd [-flags] [file]...
...
with all options available.

++

Jack




Le 27/09/2017 à 05:45, Alexander Connor a écrit :
> I noticed this as well.  Don't remember it happening until 0.48.  Annoying. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 11:16:00 +0200, Jérôme Abel  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't know if it is a normal behavior, when I type "pd --help" in a 
>> Terminal, Pd is launched.
>>
>> Usually this kind of command just print the help.
>>
>> +
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Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[Max]

On 2017년 09월 27일 14:45, abel.jer...@free.fr wrote:


After removing gem linux package, 


IOhannes said to me: "Why would you do that?"

If you remove the gem package, you also can't install all the 
gem-plugins that you may want to be managed by apt-get








this error message appears in Pd - verbose mode : "Gem.pd_linux: 
libftgl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"


When I "sudo apt-get install libftgl2", it is ok.

+

j

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De: "Antoine Rousseau" 
À: "Jérôme Abel" 
Cc: "Pd-list" 
Envoyé: Mercredi 27 Septembre 2017 11:17:01
Objet: Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?




I've installed Gem via Deken (find externals), but it was not enough

Please could you provide errors returned by Pd console log 4 (all),
while running '-verbose'?









Antoine Rousseau
http://www.metalu.net __ http://www.metaluachahuter.com/



2017-09-27 9:53 GMT+02:00 Jérôme Abel < abel.jer...@free.fr > :


Hi,

On new Ubuntu computers, I've installed Gem via Deken (find
externals), but it was not enough. I need also to install it with
apt-get install gem. Some dependencies seems required, may be opengl
libs ?

Computers (cat /proc/version) : Linux version 4.4.0-81-generic
(buildd@lgw01-02) (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu
5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4) ) #104-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 14 08:17:06 UTC
2017

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Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[abel . jerome]

After removing gem linux package, this error message appears in Pd - verbose 
mode : "Gem.pd_linux: libftgl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such 
file or directory"

When I "sudo apt-get install libftgl2", it is ok.

+

j 

- Mail original -
> De: "Antoine Rousseau" 
> À: "Jérôme Abel" 
> Cc: "Pd-list" 
> Envoyé: Mercredi 27 Septembre 2017 11:17:01
> Objet: Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've installed Gem via Deken (find externals), but it was not enough
> 
> Please could you provide errors returned by Pd console log 4 (all),
> while running '-verbose'?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Antoine Rousseau
> http://www.metalu.net __ http://www.metaluachahuter.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 2017-09-27 9:53 GMT+02:00 Jérôme Abel < abel.jer...@free.fr > :
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On new Ubuntu computers, I've installed Gem via Deken (find
> externals), but it was not enough. I need also to install it with
> apt-get install gem. Some dependencies seems required, may be opengl
> libs ?
> 
> Computers (cat /proc/version) : Linux version 4.4.0-81-generic
> (buildd@lgw01-02) (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu
> 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4) ) #104-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 14 08:17:06 UTC
> 2017
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Re: [PD] trouble with pd-0.48-0 and multiple screens

[Dan Wilcox]

As a followup, please test this possible solution: 
Pd-0.48-1-multimonitor.app.zip 


I spent time on fixing this so I would like to at least get a confirmation from 
those that posted the initial thread.

> On Sep 22, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Dan Wilcox  wrote:
> 
> Note: IOhannes has an updated PR: 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/225 
> 
> 
> The previous build should work them same.
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Dan Wilcox > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, I believe I have a fix: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/224 
>> 
>> 
>> You can download and try a test build for newer Macs (10.9+): 
>> Pd-0.48-1-multimonitor.app.zip 
>> 
>> 
>> From doing some research, it seems support for negative positions was added 
>> to Tk a while ago and it seems to be working fine. I basically just removed 
>> the hard clipping to 0 and only try to do the manual placement if Tk is 8.4.
> 


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Re: [PD] Command line pd --help launches pd

[Alexander Connor]

I noticed this as well.  Don't remember it happening until 0.48.  Annoying. 




On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 11:16:00 +0200, Jérôme Abel  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I don't know if it is a normal behavior, when I type "pd --help" in a 
> Terminal, Pd is launched.
> 
> Usually this kind of command just print the help.
> 
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Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[Antoine Rousseau]

>
> I've installed Gem via Deken (find externals), but it was not enough


Please could you provide errors returned by Pd console log 4 (all), while
running '-verbose'?


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2017-09-27 9:53 GMT+02:00 Jérôme Abel :

> Hi,
>
> On new Ubuntu computers, I've installed Gem via Deken (find externals),
> but it was not enough. I need also to install it with apt-get install gem.
> Some dependencies seems required, may be opengl libs ?
>
> Computers (cat /proc/version) : Linux version 4.4.0-81-generic
> (buildd@lgw01-02) (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu
> 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4) ) #104-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 14 08:17:06 UTC 2017
>
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[PD] Command line pd --help launches pd

[Jérôme Abel]

Hi,

I don't know if it is a normal behavior, when I type "pd --help" in a 
Terminal, Pd is launched.


Usually this kind of command just print the help.

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Re: [PD] how to change the cursor icon (tcl)

[Dan Wilcox]

As Pd uses Tk for it's guis, check the available Tk cursor names: 
http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/TkCmd/cursors.htm 


There are a few that are system dependent.

> On Sep 26, 2017, at 10:21 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 16:21:42 -0400
> From: Federico Camara Halac  >
> To: Liam Goodacre >, 
> Pd-List
>   >
> Subject: Re: [PD] how to change the cursor icon (tcl)
> 
> I don't know of any other way to change the cursor type other than sysgui
> and *configure -cursor*. Also I don't know what you mean by pdsend
> finished. I guess in the end this might be system dependent and probably a
> tcl version thing that I simply don't know ;) all my knowledge here comes
> from hacking through this amazing code


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[PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[Jérôme Abel]

Hi,

On new Ubuntu computers, I've installed Gem via Deken (find externals), 
but it was not enough. I need also to install it with apt-get install 
gem. Some dependencies seems required, may be opengl libs ?


Computers (cat /proc/version) : Linux version 4.4.0-81-generic 
(buildd@lgw01-02) (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu 
5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4) ) #104-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 14 08:17:06 UTC 2017


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