Re: [PD] Issues with Gem 0.39-3 on OS X via Deken in Pd

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2017-09-28 15:20 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig :

> On 09/28/2017 08:15 PM, Peter P. wrote:
> > are there any known issues of loading Gem 0.93-3 via Deken in "Pd
> > version 0.48-0 compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.6 or later" (the non-32-bit
> > non-i386) version? I seems to not work on multiple machines around me.
> >
> > What are the latest versions of Pd and Gem working together on OS X?
>
> Gem binaries for OSX are only available as i386 (32bit).
> this binary requires a i386 (32bit) Pd.
> nothing else will work¹
>
> gfmsard
> IOhannes
>
> ¹you can compile Gem yourself for amd64/64bit on OSX, which will work
> nicely, with all the features stripped that Apple decided to not make
> available for 64bit - like QuickTime.
>

Hi, I don't get it, sorry, do you mean all Gem features won't work? Like
whatever depends on QuickTime? I don't use Gem, but I always here there's
this problem with it and I'd like to know better what's up, so I can tell
my students.

Further and definitive question is: is there anything one can do to make
Gem fully available for 64bits and up in deken? Or is this the end of the
road?

cheers



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Re: [PD] Issues with Gem 0.39-3 on OS X via Deken in Pd

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 09/28/2017 08:15 PM, Peter P. wrote:
> are there any known issues of loading Gem 0.93-3 via Deken in "Pd
> version 0.48-0 compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.6 or later" (the non-32-bit
> non-i386) version? I seems to not work on multiple machines around me.
> 
> What are the latest versions of Pd and Gem working together on OS X?

Gem binaries for OSX are only available as i386 (32bit).
this binary requires a i386 (32bit) Pd.
nothing else will work¹

gfmsard
IOhannes

¹you can compile Gem yourself for amd64/64bit on OSX, which will work
nicely, with all the features stripped that Apple decided to not make
available for 64bit - like QuickTime.



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Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[Max]

On 2017년 09월 28일 19:36, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

On 09/28/2017 06:33 PM, Max wrote:


Well, in theory the gem on deken could be a different (newer) version
then the one coming through the package management, especially if you
are on a release based distribution like ubuntu, mint, etc.


so?

as the maintainer of Gem i'm pretty well aware of it's dependency chain
and as a co-developer of deken i firmly believe that it is not up to
handling such things.


understood.

that only is true for gem on linux though, because there is no system 
package management on win/osx.

Maybe it would be a good idea to make a message appear:
"Please install Gem via the package manager (apt,yum, etc)" if people 
search for Gem in deken. So that poor linux beginners don't get too 
frustrated when they follow some random tutorial by an apple/ms user how 
to install Pd/Gem.


my 0.5ct

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[PD] Issues with Gem 0.39-3 on OS X via Deken in Pd

[Peter P.]

Hi list,

are there any known issues of loading Gem 0.93-3 via Deken in "Pd
version 0.48-0 compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.6 or later" (the non-32-bit
non-i386) version? I seems to not work on multiple machines around me.

What are the latest versions of Pd and Gem working together on OS X?

Thank you for your help, which is greatly appreciated.
Peter

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Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 09/28/2017 06:33 PM, Max wrote:
> 
> Well, in theory the gem on deken could be a different (newer) version
> then the one coming through the package management, especially if you
> are on a release based distribution like ubuntu, mint, etc.

so?

as the maintainer of Gem i'm pretty well aware of it's dependency chain
and as a co-developer of deken i firmly believe that it is not up to
handling such things.

gfamrds
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[Max]

On 2017년 09월 28일 08:20, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

On 09/27/2017 05:47 PM, abel.jer...@free.fr wrote:

On Linux, installing Gem via Deken is not enough, we need installing it with 
"apt-get".


hopefully there is no deken package for Gem on linux.
(i see that it has been uploaded as part of the pdx batch-backport; it
should be removed).


Well, in theory the gem on deken could be a different (newer) version 
then the one coming through the package management, especially if you 
are on a release based distribution like ubuntu, mint, etc.


The reality though it that it's actually an older one in deken:
Gem-v-0.0.extended-(Linux-i386-32(Linux-amd64-64-externals.tar.gz 
Uploaded by ch15m @ 2015-08-07


vs. the one in the repositories:
GEM: ver: 0.93.3
GEM: compiled: Nov 11 2015


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Re: [PD] Command line pd --help launches pd

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 09/27/2017 05:22 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
> Hmm... I guess the correct thing would be to exit if Pd is invoked correctly
> with "-version" (as it now does) and "-help" (which it doesn't), but to
> start up anyhow if invoked with incorrect arguments...



the updates/0.48.0 branch on github has a fix for that:

> commit 123eee7767852005fee8ed25bbcd79eb93529a7f
> Author: IOhannes m zmoelnig 
> Date:   Thu Aug 17 18:02:26 2017 +0200
>
>return error if wrong args are given


gfmdsas
IOhannes



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