Re: [PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
went ahead and did it. (didn´´t find a way to add a label for documentation though) https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1345 > Am 25.06.2021 um 22:11 schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres : > > open an issue on github https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues I'll do > it > > Em sex., 25 de jun. de 2021 às 16:30, hans w. koch > escreveu: > today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal > cents :-) > sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i > literally hit my head when i recognized this. > i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this. > > now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: > wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow > in mtofs helpfile? > at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a > quarter tone higher than 69). > my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent. > > further question: > i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more > decimals > e.g. > pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 > javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 > its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 > hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings > accumulate. > or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? > > best > hans > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
thumbs up. :) Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 6/25/2021 6:28 PM, hans w. koch wrote: yes, of course :-) i stated here for [div] and [mod]: https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2020-09/128152.html and on git: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1150 Am 25.06.2021 um 23:20 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola : not every object is double ready though in my experience. It would be very useful if you tell whats not ready. Either here on the "list" or issues on https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues :) Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 6/25/2021 6:01 PM, hans w. koch wrote: yes, i am already using pd double. not every object is double ready though in my experience. sometimes hard to tell apart... @alexandre: thanks for the offer to file a feature request for the helpfile change. i can do it too, but wasn´t sure if i should flood the long list with this trivia. best hans Am 25.06.2021 um 22:41 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola : Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double" -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? This. Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. Christof On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote: today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this. now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent. further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? best hans ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
yes, of course :-) i stated here for [div] and [mod]: https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2020-09/128152.html and on git: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1150 > Am 25.06.2021 um 23:20 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola : > >> not every object is double ready though in my experience. > > It would be very useful if you tell whats not ready. Either here on the > "list" or issues on https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues > > :) > > Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. > > On 6/25/2021 6:01 PM, hans w. koch wrote: >> yes, i am already using pd double. >> not every object is double ready though in my experience. >> sometimes hard to tell apart... >> >> @alexandre: thanks for the offer to file a feature request for the helpfile >> change. >> i can do it too, but wasn´t sure if i should flood the long list with this >> trivia. >> >> best >> hans >> >>> Am 25.06.2021 um 22:41 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola : >>> Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. >>> I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double" >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. >>> >>> On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: > or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? This. Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. Christof On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote: > today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal > cents :-) > sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i > literally hit my head when i recognized this. > i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of > this. > > now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: > wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that > somehow in mtofs helpfile? > at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" > (a quarter tone higher than 69). > my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 > cent. > > further question: > i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more > decimals > e.g. > pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 > javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 > its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and > 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these > roundings accumulate. > or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? > > best > hans > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
not every object is double ready though in my experience. It would be very useful if you tell whats not ready. Either here on the "list" or issues on https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues :) Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 6/25/2021 6:01 PM, hans w. koch wrote: yes, i am already using pd double. not every object is double ready though in my experience. sometimes hard to tell apart... @alexandre: thanks for the offer to file a feature request for the helpfile change. i can do it too, but wasn´t sure if i should flood the long list with this trivia. best hans Am 25.06.2021 um 22:41 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola : Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double" -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? This. Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. Christof On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote: today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this. now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent. further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? best hans ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
yes, i am already using pd double. not every object is double ready though in my experience. sometimes hard to tell apart... @alexandre: thanks for the offer to file a feature request for the helpfile change. i can do it too, but wasn´t sure if i should flood the long list with this trivia. best hans > Am 25.06.2021 um 22:41 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola : > >> Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit >> doubles. > > I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double" > > > -- > > Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. > > On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: >>> or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? >> This. >> >> Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit >> doubles. >> >> Christof >> >> On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote: >>> today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal >>> cents :-) >>> sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i >>> literally hit my head when i recognized this. >>> i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of >>> this. >>> >>> now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: >>> wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that >>> somehow in mtofs helpfile? >>> at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a >>> quarter tone higher than 69). >>> my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 >>> cent. >>> >>> further question: >>> i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more >>> decimals >>> e.g. >>> pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 >>> javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 >>> its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and >>> 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these >>> roundings accumulate. >>> or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? >>> >>> best >>> hans >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double" d'oh. I didn't catch that. On 25.06.2021 22:41, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double" -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? This. Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. Christof On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote: today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this. now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent. further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? best hans ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double" -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote: or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? This. Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. Christof On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote: today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this. now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent. further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? best hans ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? This. Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles. Christof On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote: today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this. now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent. further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? best hans ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
open an issue on github https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues I'll do it Em sex., 25 de jun. de 2021 às 16:30, hans w. koch escreveu: > today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal > cents :-) > sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i > literally hit my head when i recognized this. > i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of > this. > > now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: > wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that > somehow in mtofs helpfile? > at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a > quarter tone higher than 69). > my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 > cent. > > further question: > i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more > decimals > e.g. > pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 > javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 > its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and > 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these > roundings accumulate. > or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? > > best > hans > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] mtof does cents (hooray!) suggestion to state that in the helpfile
today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this. now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent. further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things? best hans ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
