Re: [PD] print a warnung when a slider's log value gets overwritten closing the properties

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres  [2023-05-16 06:43]:
> I think it could let us do it and print an error if we attempt to use the
> slider with this wrong setting
I think this is too late. The warning should be printed upon closing the
propoerties dialog.



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Re: [PD] Number atom box limits overstepped

2023-05-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em qui., 11 de mai. de 2023 às 13:23, Antoine Rousseau 
escreveu:

> FYI, it's still possible to restore the previous (clipped) behaviour by
> adding "-compatibility 0.45" to the startup flags.
>

for iemgui's nbx it is actually 'pd compatibility 0.52', for atom boxes
it's always been like that, so no compat flag

> after all this time, I just noticed something which I'm not sure if it
> was always like that or it changed without me noticing it: in atom boxes

the documentation is clear about this. It might not be intuitive, but it's
known and documented to say that values over limits are passed through. I
personally don't have a problem with it and can see a reasoning for it.

>
> It's not possible to simply go back, it would probably break a lot of the
> patches that have been written since Pd 0.46 (around 2014).
>
> Antoine
>
>
>
> Le jeu. 11 mai 2023 à 17:11, Roman Haefeli  a écrit :
>
>> On Thu, 2023-05-11 at 16:54 +0200, Christof Ressi wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I think we should generally follow the principle of least surprise.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Roman
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Re: [PD] print a warnung when a slider's log value gets overwritten closing the properties

2023-05-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
I think it could let us do it and print an error if we attempt to use the
slider with this wrong setting

Em seg., 15 de mai. de 2023 às 06:33, Peter P. 
escreveu:

> Hi,
>
> graphical slider objects silently overwrite minimum values of zero with
> a fraction of the maximum value when their properties dialog is closed.
> I think this should be communicated as a warning to the user.
>
> cheersz, P
>
>
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[PD] [PD-announce] ELSE 1.0 RC8 with Live Electronics tutorial is now officially out!

2023-05-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
ELSE 1.0 RC8 with Live Electronics tutorial is out and available from deken
or here https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v1.0-rc8  where you
can also find all changelog details...

We got 2 nice objects: one is [knob]!!! Finally a rotary knob into ELSE and
one that I think will cover all purposes. The other is the [filterdelay~]
object, a nice high level delay unit. ELSE now comes with an object browser
plugin, in order to load it you have to add the 'else' folder to Pd's path.
A not fully up to date rc8 version is available in the last stable release
of PlugData, but it will catch up soon and you can get it from the nightly
builds. I'm still missing raspberry pi binaries, I hope someone can help me
compile plaits~ and sfont~ in it

Please support me on patreon if you use my stuff a lot
https://www.patreon.com/porres

thanks
Alex
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Re: [PD] [r pd-dsp-started] bangs upon object deletion?

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
* Christof Ressi  [2023-05-15 13:46]:
> > I am wondering why it outputs a bang when I create an (empty) object
> Does it really? Not for me.
Indeed, my bad.
 
> > and delete it again
> 
> Deleting any object causes the DSP graph to be updated. (As a side note, I
> *think* this wouldn't be necessary for non-DSP objects, but maybe I am
> missing something.)
> 
> > so the object reports all updates to the dsp graph maybe?
> Yes! A signal graph update implies that DSP is stopped and (re)started.
Then the help patch for [samplerate~] could sure benefit from a line
indicating this behavior.

Thanks!
Peter



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Re: [PD] [r pd-dsp-started] bangs upon object deletion?

2023-05-15 Thread Christof Ressi

I am wondering why it outputs a bang when I create an (empty) object

Does it really? Not for me.


and delete it again


Deleting any object causes the DSP graph to be updated. (As a side note, 
I *think* this wouldn't be necessary for non-DSP objects, but maybe I am 
missing something.)



so the object reports all updates to the dsp graph maybe?

Yes! A signal graph update implies that DSP is stopped and (re)started.

Christof

On 15.05.2023 12:33, Peter P. wrote:

Adding to my last email, that it outputs bangs when signal connections
are drawn. So the object reports all updates to the dsp graph maybe?

* Peter P.  [2023-05-15 12:31]:

Hi list,

I am using [r pd-dsp-started] to recalculate parameters. I am wondering
why it outputs a bang when I create an (empty) object, and delete it
again, either with the "Cut" menu item or the backspace key.

Is this intentional and what would be a rationale?

Thanks!
P



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Re: [PD] [r pd-dsp-started] bangs upon object deletion?

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
Adding to my last email, that it outputs bangs when signal connections
are drawn. So the object reports all updates to the dsp graph maybe?

* Peter P.  [2023-05-15 12:31]:
> Hi list,
> 
> I am using [r pd-dsp-started] to recalculate parameters. I am wondering
> why it outputs a bang when I create an (empty) object, and delete it
> again, either with the "Cut" menu item or the backspace key.
> 
> Is this intentional and what would be a rationale?
> 
> Thanks!
> P



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[PD] [r pd-dsp-started] bangs upon object deletion?

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
Hi list,

I am using [r pd-dsp-started] to recalculate parameters. I am wondering
why it outputs a bang when I create an (empty) object, and delete it
again, either with the "Cut" menu item or the backspace key.

Is this intentional and what would be a rationale?

Thanks!
P



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[PD] print a warnung when a slider's log value gets overwritten closing the properties

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
Hi,

graphical slider objects silently overwrite minimum values of zero with
a fraction of the maximum value when their properties dialog is closed.
I think this should be communicated as a warning to the user.

cheersz, P



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