Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread Christof Ressi
OTOH, if "preferences" are left around from 0.53 to 0.54 that could 
potentially cause trouble if something that was appropriate for 0.53 
somehow crashes 0.54
"Wrong" preferences should never crash Pd in the first place... It would 
be really great if Oliver would somehow manage to recreate the settings 
that led to the crash.


Christof

On 22.06.2023 21:17, Miller Puckette wrote:


On 6/22/23 11:50, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:

On 22/06/2023 15:41, oliver wrote:

It seems to not overwrite the old installation completely,
or so it seems to me. 



I think you runned the *new* installer whithout a prior uninstall 
(and you overwrited files).


The new installer will (in the future) warn you and ask you to 
uninstall first. but this warning is not happening if you have Pd < 
0.54 installed.


I got a different ride... installing 0.54 on top of 0.53 the installer 
did give me the option to erase the old one.  I tried it both with and 
without the "uninstall" option and had no trouble either way.  Since 
the new one will overwrite any files it needs, it shouldn't be 
strictly necessary to uninstall 0.53 files that got renamed or removed 
in 0.54 - they should just hang around but not do anything.  OTOH, if 
"preferences" are left around from 0.53 to 0.54 that could potentially 
cause trouble if something that was appropriate for 0.53 somehow 
crashes 0.54, which is what I think Oliver saw.  If that's true, the 
only way to recreate Oliver's crash would be to re-establish the 
preferences he had in 0.53 and then install 0.54 on top of it without 
"uninstalling".


Or perhaps something totally different from that was going wrong...?

cheers

Miller




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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread Miller Puckette


On 6/22/23 11:50, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:

On 22/06/2023 15:41, oliver wrote:

It seems to not overwrite the old installation completely,
or so it seems to me. 



I think you runned the *new* installer whithout a prior uninstall (and 
you overwrited files).


The new installer will (in the future) warn you and ask you to 
uninstall first. but this warning is not happening if you have Pd < 
0.54 installed.


I got a different ride... installing 0.54 on top of 0.53 the installer 
did give me the option to erase the old one.  I tried it both with and 
without the "uninstall" option and had no trouble either way.  Since the 
new one will overwrite any files it needs, it shouldn't be strictly 
necessary to uninstall 0.53 files that got renamed or removed in 0.54 - 
they should just hang around but not do anything.  OTOH, if 
"preferences" are left around from 0.53 to 0.54 that could potentially 
cause trouble if something that was appropriate for 0.53 somehow crashes 
0.54, which is what I think Oliver saw.  If that's true, the only way to 
recreate Oliver's crash would be to re-establish the preferences he had 
in 0.53 and then install 0.54 on top of it without "uninstalling".


Or perhaps something totally different from that was going wrong...?

cheers

Miller




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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread Lucas Cordiviola

On 22/06/2023 15:41, oliver wrote:

It seems to not overwrite the old installation completely,
or so it seems to me. 



I think you runned the *new* installer whithout a prior uninstall (and 
you overwrited files).


The new installer will (in the future) warn you and ask you to uninstall 
first. but this warning is not happening if you have Pd < 0.54 installed.



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread oliver

Miller Puckette wrote:
Are you using the "installer"?  I've been trying it and can't get it to 
go wrong yet.


Yes, i did use the official installer.

It seems to not overwrite the old installation completely,
or so it seems to me.

(thanks for keeping the "portable" zipped version btw, saved my life on 
the road a couple of times ;-))


best

oliver



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread Miller Puckette
Are you using the "installer"?  I've been trying it and can't get it to 
go wrong yet.


thanks

Miller

On 6/22/23 10:57, Kylee Kennedy wrote:

Hi Oliver,

Good tip on uninstalling 0.53 and then install 0.54. I'm on WIN 10 and 
noticed my audio interface selections were missing Rearoute channels 
from Reaper when I installed 0.54 over the old pd app.
I reinstalled Reaper and they popped up. So far all my patches are 
working fine but I think it might be good to uninstall them and do 
a fresh install to be safe.


Thanks all for the work on getting this new release out, I'm looking 
forward to playing with the new multi-channel routing.


Take Care,
Kylee Kennedy




On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 6:42 AM oliver  wrote:

just some more minor reports:

WIN 7 /64bit

i downloaded and installed PD 0.54.0-test1 and installed it over
PD 0.53
which didn't go down well at all.

The new audio engine (portaudio) would crash PD when selecetd and the
preferences interface was a hybrid of the old and new one ...

Only after a complete wiping of the old PD (and PD user settings)
a new
install would work as expected. Also no more crashes on portaudio.

Another strange thing:

When entering startup flags in the preferences window
("font-weight" and
"font-size" in my case): they can be set but the line is empty
after a
close and restart of PD.

The values are set correctly on startup though !

Best

Oliver


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>> anyhow, this is not something i think worth spending my time on.
> Agreed :)
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread Kylee Kennedy
Hi Oliver,

Good tip on uninstalling 0.53 and then install 0.54. I'm on WIN 10 and
noticed my audio interface selections were missing Rearoute channels from
Reaper when I installed 0.54 over the old pd app.
I reinstalled Reaper and they popped up. So far all my patches are working
fine but I think it might be good to uninstall them and do a fresh install
to be safe.

Thanks all for the work on getting this new release out, I'm looking
forward to playing with the new multi-channel routing.

Take Care,
Kylee Kennedy




On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 6:42 AM oliver  wrote:

> just some more minor reports:
>
> WIN 7 /64bit
>
> i downloaded and installed PD 0.54.0-test1 and installed it over PD 0.53
> which didn't go down well at all.
>
> The new audio engine (portaudio) would crash PD when selecetd and the
> preferences interface was a hybrid of the old and new one ...
>
> Only after a complete wiping of the old PD (and PD user settings) a new
> install would work as expected. Also no more crashes on portaudio.
>
> Another strange thing:
>
> When entering startup flags in the preferences window ("font-weight" and
> "font-size" in my case): they can be set but the line is empty after a
> close and restart of PD.
>
> The values are set correctly on startup though !
>
> Best
>
> Oliver
>
>
> Christof Ressi wrote:
> >> anyhow, this is not something i think worth spending my time on.
> > Agreed :)
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[PD] Gem v0.94-snapshot crashing on MacOS 10.15.7 when creating [gemwin]

2023-06-22 Thread Peter P.
Hi list,

it seems that Gem v0.94-snapshot from Deken within Pd 0.51.4 does crash
silently when a gemwin Object is created on MacOS Catalina 10.15.7.
What to try next?

Thanks!
Peter



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Am 22. Juni 2023 15:31:44 MESZ schrieb oliver :
>
>Another strange thing:
>
>When entering startup flags in the preferences window ("font-weight" and 
>"font-size" in my case): they can be set but the line is empty after a close 
>and restart of PD.
>
>The values are set correctly on startup though !


Could you please open an bugreport in the issue tracker?

https://bugs.puredata.info

Thx


mfg.sfg.jfd
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 test 1 released

2023-06-22 Thread oliver

just some more minor reports:

WIN 7 /64bit

i downloaded and installed PD 0.54.0-test1 and installed it over PD 0.53 
which didn't go down well at all.


The new audio engine (portaudio) would crash PD when selecetd and the 
preferences interface was a hybrid of the old and new one ...


Only after a complete wiping of the old PD (and PD user settings) a new 
install would work as expected. Also no more crashes on portaudio.


Another strange thing:

When entering startup flags in the preferences window ("font-weight" and 
"font-size" in my case): they can be set but the line is empty after a 
close and restart of PD.


The values are set correctly on startup though !

Best

Oliver


Christof Ressi wrote:
anyhow, this is not something i think worth spending my time on. 

Agreed :)



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