Re: [PD] Fwd: HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running!
On 10/07/2023 23:43, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: I'm following this one so it will be great if you install msys2 and we get a back-trace from the debugger. Joseph here are instructions on how to get the debugger back-trace. You have the steps which are rather simple and a link to get Pd-0.54-0 with debug symbols. https://nc.nubegris.com.ar/index.php/s/JwEjrPDEyP53oL7 We want to solve this mystery :) -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running!
On 10/07/2023 22:42, Christof Ressi wrote: If I remember well, Lucas has suggested this could be linked to the new 64-bit windows build using the lower-latency WASAPI audio system in place of the older MMIO. WASAPI has been introduced in Windows Vista, ... Joseph this was meant as in -- there are new drivers hence more devices, then their indexes had changed and now Pd is trying to load an incorrect device for the previous index and Pd is unable to start -- but we now know this is not the case. I'm following this one so it will be great if you install msys2 and we get a back-trace from the debugger. also I'm using this cpu: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/47341/intel-core-i5520m-processor-3m-cache-2-40-ghz/specifications.html which is almost the same age as yours: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/43122/intel-core-i7720qm-processor-6m-cache-1-60-ghz/specifications.html -- Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Mobmuplat bug...
Please file an issue on the github issue tracker https://github.com/monkeyswarm/MobMuPlat/issues On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 4:31 PM Simon Iten wrote: > Don’t know if mobmuplat is still developed further. > > I found a problem: > > When programatically switching to a specific page (x) of a GUI via > setPage, the page is displayed halfway between page x and x+1 with no way > to change pages anymore. This problem is happening on iOS 12.5.7 with an > iPhone 6 in landscape mode. In portrait mode the problem is less > pronounced, but the page is still not “fully” switched, so it is somewhere > between x and x+1. > > > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running!
If I remember well, Lucas has suggested this could be linked to the new 64-bit windows build using the lower-latency WASAPI audio system in place of the older MMIO. WASAPI has been introduced in Windows Vista, so I can't imagine how it would be a problem on a Windows 10 machine. Also, "pd.com -noprefs -noaudio" failed although it wouldn't execute any audio backend code. Again, the only real way to solve this mystery would be to run Pd in a debugger. If are interested to dig deeper, you would need to install Msys2 (https://www.msys2.org/), then I could send you a Pd with debug symbols. Christof On 11.07.2023 03:30, Linux ROUEN wrote: Hello List, So few days later and after a lot of tests and support from several people, thanks to all of them, this is my current and temporary conclusion. Pd Vanilla 0.54.0 is not compatible with my HP laptop DV8-1190ef (14 years old with CPU i720Q 1st Gen) and its configuration running under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit when Pd Vanilla 0.53.2 is fully functional as well as the latest Purr Data 2.19.3. After having made a new summer in-depth cleaning of my PC, I retest the portable versions of Pd Vanilla (see here attached 2 screen captures). - Pd 0.53.2 = fully functional, but - Pd 0.54.0 = still not functional at all. As reported in my previous emails (CrashReport), it seems there is an issue with the Windows module “ntdll.dll” (announced as “falling module”) or at least the communication between Pd Vanilla 0.54.0 and this module. If I remember well, Lucas has suggested this could be linked to the new 64-bit windows build using the lower-latency WASAPI audio system in place of the older MMIO. Now I will wait for the next Pd 0.54.1 for making new tests. I’m really pleased for those who are able to run Pd 0.54.0 on their Windows 10 machines. Best, Joseph Gastelais *De :*Linux ROUEN [mailto:linux.ro...@free.fr] *Envoyé :* samedi 8 juillet 2023 03:34 *À :* 'Pd-list' *Objet :* HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running! Hello Pd List, Under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit, the previous 3 versions 0.53.0, 0.53.1 and 0.53.2 of Pure Data Vanilla were working okay, but not the latest 0.54.0 version! I tried today to update to it using the ‘pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe’ file from Miller’s site but after the installation trying to launch it nothing happens. Installation procedure (with antivirus disabled): - Uninstall Pd 0.53.2: okay - Install ‘pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe’: everything went well - Launch Pd 0.54.0: nothing happens! - Uninstall Pd 0.54.0: okay - Reinstall ‘pd-0.53-2.windows-installer.exe’: but lot of errors which was not the case previously! - Launch Pd 0.53.2: it’s opening?! See the attached zip file for the error messages. - Uninstall Pd 0.53.2: okay - Reinstall ‘pd-0.54-0.windows-installer.exe’: but now a lot of errors like with 0.53.2 reinstallation! - Launch Pd 0.54.0: still nothing happens!! See the attached zip file for the error messages. See also the attached Pd Bin & Font zip file for the folders content. Any idea what is going wrong with Pd 0.54.0 installation and now also with Pd 0.53.2 reinstallation? Everything seems to be broken! Thanks, Joseph Gastelais ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Mobmuplat bug...
Don’t know if mobmuplat is still developed further. I found a problem: When programatically switching to a specific page (x) of a GUI via setPage, the page is displayed halfway between page x and x+1 with no way to change pages anymore. This problem is happening on iOS 12.5.7 with an iPhone 6 in landscape mode. In portrait mode the problem is less pronounced, but the page is still not “fully” switched, so it is somewhere between x and x+1. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] New Externals for the SoundScape Renderer + ASDF external
great stuff, hope I can look and give suggestions and now that pd supports multichannel signals, do you think you can work on objects that are multichannel aware? congrats Em seg., 10 de jul. de 2023 às 15:16, Matthias Geier < matthias.ge...@gmail.com> escreveu: > Hi all. > > We have recently released version 0.6.1 of the SoundScape Renderer > (SSR), which is a tool for real-time spatial audio reproduction > providing a variety of rendering algorithms, e.g. Wave Field > Synthesis, Higher-Order Ambisonics and binaural techniques. > > Most of the rendering back-ends of the SSR have been available as Pd > externals for many years, the Binaural Room Synthesis (BRS) renderer > has been added recently. > However, the externals had to be compiled manually, which might have > kept some potential users from trying them. > > But now, the SSR externals are also available with Deken! > I don't know if I have to explain it on this list, but just in case: > go to "Help" -> "Find externals", search for "ssr" and click > "install"! > Then, put an object [declare -path ssr] into your patch, and now you > can use the externals ssr_binaural~, ssr_brs~, ssr_dca~, ssr_aap~, > ssr_wfs~ and ssr_vbap~. > > You can feed audio signals to the externals and use messages to change > their positions (and volume etc.). For more details, see the help > patches. > > Alternatively, you can use the brand-new asdf~ external to load a > dynamic audio scene using the Audio Scene Description Format (ASDF, > https://audioscenedescriptionformat.readthedocs.io/). This will > provide the source signals and the control messages for you. > > Again, just search for "asdf", click "install" and put an object > [declare -path asdf] into your patch. > > Currently, there are not many example scenes available, but for > starters you can have a look here: > https://github.com/AudioSceneDescriptionFormat/asdf-example-scenes/ > > This is our first generation of Pd externals via Deken. If you find > any problems or if you have suggestions for improvements, please let > us know via the issue trackers at > https://github.com/SoundScapeRenderer/ssr or > https://github.com/AudioSceneDescriptionFormat/asdf-rust. > > cheers, > Matthias > > > > ___ > Pd-announce mailing list > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] New Externals for the SoundScape Renderer + ASDF external
Hi all. We have recently released version 0.6.1 of the SoundScape Renderer (SSR), which is a tool for real-time spatial audio reproduction providing a variety of rendering algorithms, e.g. Wave Field Synthesis, Higher-Order Ambisonics and binaural techniques. Most of the rendering back-ends of the SSR have been available as Pd externals for many years, the Binaural Room Synthesis (BRS) renderer has been added recently. However, the externals had to be compiled manually, which might have kept some potential users from trying them. But now, the SSR externals are also available with Deken! I don't know if I have to explain it on this list, but just in case: go to "Help" -> "Find externals", search for "ssr" and click "install"! Then, put an object [declare -path ssr] into your patch, and now you can use the externals ssr_binaural~, ssr_brs~, ssr_dca~, ssr_aap~, ssr_wfs~ and ssr_vbap~. You can feed audio signals to the externals and use messages to change their positions (and volume etc.). For more details, see the help patches. Alternatively, you can use the brand-new asdf~ external to load a dynamic audio scene using the Audio Scene Description Format (ASDF, https://audioscenedescriptionformat.readthedocs.io/). This will provide the source signals and the control messages for you. Again, just search for "asdf", click "install" and put an object [declare -path asdf] into your patch. Currently, there are not many example scenes available, but for starters you can have a look here: https://github.com/AudioSceneDescriptionFormat/asdf-example-scenes/ This is our first generation of Pd externals via Deken. If you find any problems or if you have suggestions for improvements, please let us know via the issue trackers at https://github.com/SoundScapeRenderer/ssr or https://github.com/AudioSceneDescriptionFormat/asdf-rust. cheers, Matthias ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running!
Following this thread I tried "pd.com -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nogui -noaudio" on my working 0.54 windows 10 system and got errors about no recognized cmdlet. When I use "./pd -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nogui -noaudio" in the Powershell/CMD, without quotes of course, it works and I see the float precision and verbose channels saying 0 channels. Have you tried installing to a different folder like your root? I see your folder structure is a bit different that I'm used to seeing on Win10 maybe from all the multi-boot setup but I doubt that's an issue. Further note "pd.exe" launches the app fine no luck at all with "pd.com" Hope the info might help. I can do any other tests here if needed. Kylee Kennedy On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 9:42 AM Linux ROUEN wrote: > Hello Christof, > > No chance at all! > "pd.com -noaudio" awa "pd.com -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nogui -noaudio" > give the same "no result" than all my previous tests with Pd 0.54.0. > > For the time being, I'm giving up on my production PC which has a > multi-boot 3x GNU/Linux + Windows 10 and will use for Windows another PC > which has a working Pd Vanilla 0.52.3 installed (of course, I will not try > to update it). > In a couple of days, I will reinvestigate my production PC and will try to > reinstall first Pd 0.53.2 under Windows 10, as even that is not working for > the time being. > Fortunately the updated Purr Data 2.19.3 is running like a charm, but > without Else and the up-to-date Cyclone 0.7. > > Many thanks to All for your contribution. > Joseph Gastelais > > -Message d'origine- > De : Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] De la part de Christof > Ressi > Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 02:28 > À : pd-list@lists.iem.at > Objet : Re: [PD] HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 > 64-bit is not running! > > > So within a CMD terminal the following commands > > - pd.com > > - pd.com -stderr -verbose > > - pd.com -nogui > > - pd.com -noprefs > > give the same "no result" for both the installed and the portable > versions > > of Pd 0.54.0. > > Ok, thanks for testing. So it has nothing to do with the registry or > with the gui preferences... > > Now, can you also try "pd.com -noaudio"? And also "pd.com -stderr > -verbose -noprefs -nogui -noaudio"? > > > ==> Sig[3].Name=Nom du module défaillant = Name of the failing module > > ==> Sig[3].Value=ntdll.dll > > Ah, right I missed that. Unfortunately, the crash report is very vague. > To get the actual reason for the crash you would need to run Pd in a > debugger... > > Christof > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running!
Hello Christof, No chance at all! "pd.com -noaudio" awa "pd.com -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nogui -noaudio" give the same "no result" than all my previous tests with Pd 0.54.0. For the time being, I'm giving up on my production PC which has a multi-boot 3x GNU/Linux + Windows 10 and will use for Windows another PC which has a working Pd Vanilla 0.52.3 installed (of course, I will not try to update it). In a couple of days, I will reinvestigate my production PC and will try to reinstall first Pd 0.53.2 under Windows 10, as even that is not working for the time being. Fortunately the updated Purr Data 2.19.3 is running like a charm, but without Else and the up-to-date Cyclone 0.7. Many thanks to All for your contribution. Joseph Gastelais -Message d'origine- De : Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] De la part de Christof Ressi Envoyé : lundi 10 juillet 2023 02:28 À : pd-list@lists.iem.at Objet : Re: [PD] HELP: Pure Data Vanilla v.0.54-0 under Windows 10 22H2 64-bit is not running! > So within a CMD terminal the following commands > - pd.com > - pd.com -stderr -verbose > - pd.com -nogui > - pd.com -noprefs > give the same "no result" for both the installed and the portable versions > of Pd 0.54.0. Ok, thanks for testing. So it has nothing to do with the registry or with the gui preferences... Now, can you also try "pd.com -noaudio"? And also "pd.com -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nogui -noaudio"? > ==> Sig[3].Name=Nom du module défaillant = Name of the failing module > ==> Sig[3].Value=ntdll.dll Ah, right I missed that. Unfortunately, the crash report is very vague. To get the actual reason for the crash you would need to run Pd in a debugger... Christof ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
