Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd~graz burn down: 20.03.2019

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

have a great concert!

J

On 3/7/19 10:46 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

hi all.

15 years ago, some folks in graz (including yours truely) founded a
non-profit organisation "Pd~graz", mainly to organize the 1st
Pd~convention in 2004 (those were the days!)

at the end of last year the austrian police wrote me a letter, asking
whether our association is still alive. and indeed we found that we (as
a club) hadn't had any real activity in the last 9 years or so, and
therefore we decided to terminate the association for good. (no need to
feel sorry. Pd~graz's raison d'être was to make Pd rule the world. this
mission is practically accomplished).

in any case, we are celebrating with a final concert.

the concert will be in two weeks(20.3; right that's pretty soon), at the
postgarage[1]. those of you who have been at the very 1st Pd~convention
will remember it fondly.

anybody who happens to be in the vicinity should of course come and
party with us.
if you are prepared to show your screen, there might even be an open mic
session.

gfmdsar
IOhannes

[1] http://postgarage.at/


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[PD] error in clone documentation?

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

I noticed that [clone] warns that usage is:

usage: clone [-s starting-number]   [arguments]

though I think this changed to

usage: clone [-s starting-number]   [arguments]

?

best,

J


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[PD] [feature request] cloning array define?

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

Hello all,

Here is a somewhat half-baked feature request.

It would be great to be able to clone objects such as array.

something like:

[clone array foo-$1 16]

which would lead to 16 arrays called foo-0 through foo-15

I imagine this would be possible to do with other objects, but array is 
certainly one that would work well and solve some patchwork.


Would this be possible?

best,

J


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Re: [PD] LAC 2018 workshops - pmpd and data structures

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

I also have an installation at LAC18 tonight at Spektrum if anyone would 
like to come. feedback controlled by dynamic filtering through conch shells.


https://spektrumberlin.de/events/detail/lac-2018-jaime-oliver-la-rosa-caracoles-iv-461.html

Will come to your workshop Joao!

J


On 06/05/2018 06:25 AM, João Pais wrote:
Both workshops are prepared in very gradual steps, and for beginners 
for these 2 fields. Previous knowledge of both fields isn't necessary 
at all; only knowledge of Pd is relevant.


Best,

Joao

2018-06-05 3:00 GMT+02:00 Manuel Haible <mailto:lacu...@gmx.net>>:


Hi,
 im exited, just started recently to work with pmpd.
Wondering about your other workshops on data structures how
beginner orientated is it?  Or does or have more a "think
different", change your mind, interpreting data in new creative
ways aproach?
See you, manuel



> Gesendet: Dienstag, 05. Juni 2018 um 02:06 Uhr
> Von: "João Pais" mailto:jmmmp...@gmail.com>>
> An: PD-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
> Betreff: [PD] LAC 2018 workshops - pmpd and data structures
>
> Hello list,
>
> this year at the LAC there will be several events and works
around/using
> Pd. I just wanted to mention the two workshops I'm preparing:
>
> Introduction to pmpd
> http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2018/pages/event/28/
<http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2018/pages/event/28/>
>
>
> Understanding and being creative with Pure Data’s data structures
> http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2018/pages/event/26/
<http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2018/pages/event/26/>
>
>
> More informations in
http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2018/pages/schedule/
<http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2018/pages/schedule/>
>
> Best regards,
>
> João Pais
>
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Re: [PD] Re : Re: Is Pd clip the audio output?

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

The OS seems to be doing the clipping. Windows and OSX don't seem to 
clip while linux, at least with alsa, does.


J


On 10/19/2017 11:21 AM, Nicolas Danet wrote:

Ok, thus if it there's a clipping it is "after" Pd (or at the I/O API level). 
Thanks for the confirmation.

- Mail d'origine -
De: Claude Heiland-Allen 
À: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Envoyé: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 17:10:12 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re: [PD] Is Pd clip the audio output?

On 19/10/17 15:56, Christof Ressi wrote:

-1 to 1 is the maximum range for floating point audio samples. there's nothing 
else you can do than clipping if you exceed that range.

A simple test on Linux with JACK shows that Pd doesn't clip audio that
exceeds -1 to 1:

https://mathr.co.uk/tmp/jack-no-clip.png screenshot

Other API may be different, and the driver may clip (or do other
dynamics processing) before sending to the hardware.


Von: "Nicolas Danet" 
In the "A02.amplitude.pd" example it is claimed that:

"Amplitudes of audio signals can have any reasonable range, but when you output a 
signal via the dac~ object, the samples should range between -1 and +1. Values out of 
that range will be clipped."

Is that still true in current version (Pd-0.48-0)?

I tested with a less current version:

$ pd -version
Pd-0.47.1 ("") compiled for Debian (0.47.1-3) on 2016/11/28 at 20:56:10 UTC


Claude



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Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

On 09/27/2017 09:54 AM, Max wrote:


On 2017년 09월 27일 14:45, abel.jer...@free.fr wrote:
After removing gem linux package, 

IOhannes said to me: "Why would you do that?"


well, if you want to compile your own gem externals then you need to 
download and compile the gem source right?


J




If you remove the gem package, you also can't install all the 
gem-plugins that you may want to be managed by apt-get








this error message appears in Pd - verbose mode : "Gem.pd_linux: 
libftgl.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"


When I "sudo apt-get install libftgl2", it is ok.

+

j

- Mail original -

De: "Antoine Rousseau" 
À: "Jérôme Abel" 
Cc: "Pd-list" 
Envoyé: Mercredi 27 Septembre 2017 11:17:01
Objet: Re: [PD] Gem on Linux needs apt-get install ?




I've installed Gem via Deken (find externals), but it was not enough

Please could you provide errors returned by Pd console log 4 (all),
while running '-verbose'?









Antoine Rousseau
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2017-09-27 9:53 GMT+02:00 Jérôme Abel < abel.jer...@free.fr > :


Hi,

On new Ubuntu computers, I've installed Gem via Deken (find
externals), but it was not enough. I need also to install it with
apt-get install gem. Some dependencies seems required, may be opengl
libs ?

Computers (cat /proc/version) : Linux version 4.4.0-81-generic
(buildd@lgw01-02) (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu
5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.4) ) #104-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 14 08:17:06 UTC
2017

+

--
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Re: [PD] Laptop + interface suggestion

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

So you're saying the MOTU Ultralite AVB is fully supported in Linux?

J


On 03/23/2017 03:57 PM, Baptiste Chatel wrote:

Oh, did i say the interface was a web gui ? OS-agnostic ?

Le 23 mars 2017 21:18:33 GMT+01:00, Baptiste Chatel 
 a écrit :


I bought a MOTU Ultralite AVB with my Asus n550jv with a double
boot W10/ubuntu. The ultralite avb is awesome. USB2,
Class-compliant, adat i/o, internal mixer, EQ, gates, compressors,
aux, routing, presets everywhere. Audio over IP if you're keen to
in motu's avb stuff and/or newer macs. Oh, and the whole interface
is osc-controllable. I love it.

Le 23 mars 2017 17:45:20 GMT+01:00, Dan Wilcox
 a écrit :

If I were in your situation, I’d stick with a Thinkpad. They
are expensive, but IMHO worth the price as they are rugged,
reliable, and repairable. In general, Linux distress run well
on their hardware. Another good option is a Panasonic
Toughbook which are admittedly bulkier and expensive but you
can get one with a built-in handle so you look like you work
for the CIA/NSA and use it as a blunt-force protection device
(I’m sure Katja knows).

Examples of both can be found used with decent prices (US
vendor, but gives you an idea of institutional refurbished
market):

* Newegg refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad


* Newegg refurbished Panasonic Toughbook



As for audio interfaces, I agree with those that say stick
with a USB-compliant device. I am still using aRoland UA-25
which is from mid-2000s and is USB 1.0 compliant. It works
full stereo duplex with everything, included iOS, without
drivers etc. In fact, I bought a UA-25ex used for $100 as a
backup a coulee years ago.

Fancy stuff like MOTUs are really *nice* but far too reliant
on proprietary drivers. I believe USB 2.0 should have enough
bandwidth for 8 channel output. Unlike Firewire, we can be
pretty sure USB will be supported for the foreseeable future,
albeit through probably 10 different dongles/adapters. Plus,
you’ll know if you want to work with other Ohs in the future,
the device will probably keep working.


On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:24 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at
 wrote:

*From:*João Pais >
*Subject:**[PD] Laptop + interface suggestion*
*Date:*March 23, 2017 at 1:51:36 AM MDT
*To:*pd-l...@mail.iem.at 


Dear list,

I'm looking to buy new laptop and a matching audio interface
for daily use + audio performance/programming (not video). I
would be interested to know what are the current trends
nowadays, and what experiences you have.

My current setup is:
- windows 10 (won't change)
- Lenovo X61s (I'm a bit of a fanboy for ibm/lenovo)
- RME multiface (still with pcmcia card)

I would be looking for a similar setup:
- a robust laptop where to run w10. The less weight the
better, even if it sacrifices some performance.
- which audio interfaces are used nowadays, compared with the
multiface? E.g. with at least 8 analog outlets (I don't need
that many inlets), and also a digital outlet. Also the less
weight and size the better - a half-case size such as the
multiface is quite convenient.
- the computer will be used for day-to-day activities:
office, notation (sibelius/finale), and Pd audio programming.
No games or too taxing environments, so some features such as
a high-power graphics card or the latest ssd disk should be
necessary.

Best regards,

Joao



Dan Wilcox
@danomatika 
danomatika.com 
robotcowboy.com 





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Re: [PD] email phdho...@newblankets.org if you're interested/able to host Pd *Artists in Transit*

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

Hi Joe,

Thanks for this! Add Lima (and potentially Cusco and Arequipa) to your 
list of hosts, and New York again of course after August.


And whoever is considering the next PdCon should consider this! If 
you're not familiar with New Blankets, one of their programs is to 
sponsor Pd Artists to travel to some of the host venues, so if you'd 
like to be a host venue, then email back.


best,

J


On 01/27/2017 08:38 PM, Joe Deken wrote:

Are you a Pd "local leader" in some way for your location?

That may be a fairly vague question -- but the practical purpose for New
Blankets asking is this:

"Are you interested and able to host Pd *Artists-in-Transit* to visit your
area and the groups there which you are affiliated with?"

New Blankets is interested in continuing (and increasing!) its support of
Pd *Artists-in-Transit*
and their tours and activities, worldwide.  Those tours, in ways that will
depend on the individual AIT and the local interests,  might include any
and all of the following:

-- performance
-- public lectures and demonstrations
-- workshops and instruction (including tutorials for beginners)
-- "round workbench" sessions of sharing techniques among experts

As a practical note, the NB Artists in Transit have been a congenial bunch
that prefer couch surfing to fancy hotels, will eat pizza or whatever
you're serving, etc etc.  Nothing fancy or expensive is envisioned -- the
bulk of NB AIT expenses in the past have been for travel worldwide.

-- (Please pardon the interruption if none of the above is not of interest
to you.)  --

But if you are interested in hosting/co-ordinating visitors to your area
and with your local group,
your university,  concert hall or what-have-you-to-offer  -- please send a
quick  e-mail  reply to:

  --  pdho...@newblankets.org  --

(You are welcome of course to copy the list or not, as you feel
appropriate for brainstorming. Tell your friends, too and invite them to
email pdho...@newblankets.org   )

Once we have a quorum of replies, we'll share those.   New Blankets hopes
to start
making a map, connecting the dots ... and hopefully be helping even more
of those terrific Pd Artists-in-Transit get out on the road and sharing Pd
art and lore.

In the grand scheme of things we hope that all of the micro local-elements
like patching circles and pd-weekends and AIT tours can work make the "big
show" PdCons even better (and more frequent) when they happen like
returning comets.




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Re: [PD] watchdog: signaling pd...

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

Thanks all!

It seems that changes in [declare]'s behavior were creating problems 
finding certain libraries of externals. the -noloadbang flag allowed me 
to change this behavior and now things load normally...


best,

J



On 01/20/2017 08:01 AM, Antoine Rousseau wrote:


calling pd with -noaudio and -nomidi

- enable "-verbose -stderr"


also don't forget to try "-noloadbang", it could help too.


Antoine Rousseau
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<http://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/>



2017-01-20 9:40 GMT+01:00 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoel...@iem.at 
<mailto:zmoel...@iem.at>>:


On 01/20/2017 04:18 AM, Jaime Oliver La Rosa wrote:
> This happens to certain patches and then I cannot open them
again, it is
> as if they were locked. It is currently happening to one I used
yesterday!

i guess one of the objects in their fails to create within reasonable
limits.
so i would do:
- disable rt (this will make the "signaling pd..." message disappear,
but the loading might still hang. I guess it is still worth trying
it out.
- enable "-verbose -stderr" to see what Pd is actually trying to do.
- get a list of all the objects used in the patch, and check whether
there's one in there that could block in the constructor.

fgmrdsa
IOhannes


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[PD] watchdog: signaling pd...

[Jaime Oliver La Rosa]

Hi all,

I have had, for a while, an issue opening patches, that I was able to 
open before without problems, and now I get the message: "watchdog: 
signaling pd..."


I have tried calling pd with -noaudio and -nomidi, but it still gets stuck.

I am on ubuntu 16.10 and pd 0.47-1, but this has been happening in 
several ubuntu versions.


This happens to certain patches and then I cannot open them again, it is 
as if they were locked. It is currently happening to one I used yesterday!


any pointers?

J


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