Re: [PD] [PD-announce] hidraw v0.1.0 released.

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello  (sorry for previously bad subject line)

Just tested hidraw on my linux laptop (latest deken version)

Strangely, when I click [listdevice( message in help file, i get in 
console the same device listed 14 times :


   Pd device enum: 1
   device VID PID (shown in decimal notation): 1267 548


  type: 04f3 0224
  path: /dev/hidraw0
  serial_number:
  Manufacturer: ELAN
  Product:  Touchscreen
  Release:  12
  Interface:    0
  Usage (page): 0x4 (0xd)

   ---
   Pd device enum: 2
   device VID PID (shown in decimal notation): 1267 548

   (...)


   ---
   Pd device enum: 14
   device VID PID (shown in decimal notation): 1267 548


  type: 04f3 0224
  path: /dev/hidraw0
  serial_number:
  Manufacturer: ELAN
  Product:  Touchscreen
  Release:  12
  Interface:    0
  Usage (page): 0x1 (0xff01)


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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 212, Issue 3

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello
Just tested hidraw on my linux laptop (latest deken version)

Strangely, when I click [listdevice( message in help file, i get in 
console the same device listed 14 times :


   Pd device enum: 1
   device VID PID (shown in decimal notation): 1267 548


  type: 04f3 0224
  path: /dev/hidraw0
  serial_number:
  Manufacturer: ELAN
  Product:  Touchscreen
  Release:  12
  Interface:    0
  Usage (page): 0x4 (0xd)

   ---
   Pd device enum: 2
   device VID PID (shown in decimal notation): 1267 548

   (...)


   ---
   Pd device enum: 14
   device VID PID (shown in decimal notation): 1267 548


  type: 04f3 0224
  path: /dev/hidraw0
  serial_number:
  Manufacturer: ELAN
  Product:  Touchscreen
  Release:  12
  Interface:    0
  Usage (page): 0x1 (0xff01)


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Re: [PD] Pd as a VST on Wine

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Is this new version multi-instance capable? 

Yes, as it opens two or more separate pd processes.

@ Lucas Cordiviola
Great to hear that you compiled pdVst to current Pd version.
I don't work anymore on Windows, so I'm happy if you can go further and  
maintain this project alive.


Cheers
Jean-Yves Gratius


Re: [PD] Pd as a VST on Wine.eml

Subject:
Re: [PD] Pd as a VST on Wine
From:
Lucas Cordiviola 
Date:
06/10/2022, 11:18

To:
alfonso santimone , Pd-List 




Hi Alfonso,


Is this new version multi-instance capable?



I think it is but i'm not sure. IIRC you can have more than one Pd in 
your DAW and they work independently of each others (no cross-talks)



and can use any external in the VST?



Yes.


Any plan for a VST3 and CLAP version?



VST3 would be nice. I'm not so much C/C++ skilled yet (also for a CLAP 
version).


PS: The previous pdvst~ stopped working since on Pd-0-52 there was an 
overhaul in the audio and scheduler. Many functions change their names 
or were wiped out. The only affected project was pdvst~ (AFAICT).
I tried to make a simple build system and start to use the newer 
functions and (yes!) it worked.


:)

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 06/10/2022 04:44, alfonso santimone wrote:
Hi Lucas. This Is great news! Is this new version multi-instance 
capable and can use any external in the VST? Any plan for a VST3 and 
CLAP version? thanks for your work adding another option beside 
Camomile and PlugData!


Il mar 4 ott 2022, 11:43 Lucas Cordiviola  ha 
scritto:


    Hi Chris,

    Try with this new pdvst-0.52.

https://git.nubegris.com.ar/lucarda/pdvst-0.52/releases

    I think you already know how to use it.

    - get Pd-0.52
    - copy "pdvst-0.52-v0.1/pd-scheduler64/vstschedlib.dll" to
    "your-Pd/bin"
    - then adjust the .pdv files as needed.

    (later i need to do a proper README)

    ---

    Let me know if it worked for you (it works for me via
https://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm)


    --

    Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

    On 04/10/2022 03:54, Chris McCormick wrote:
    > Hey all,
    >
    > Back in the day I used to run Modplug Tracker (OpenMPT) on Wine 
and

    > have Pd as a VST via the pdvst~ plugin. These days when I try
    this I
    > get crashes and segfaults. I have tried several of the new
    plugins but
    > none of them work except Camomile which has a bug where it won't
    find
    > the patch due to weird paths.
    >
    > I know it's a long shot but does anybody have a working setup
    with Pd
    > as a VST under Wine and can help?
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Chris.
    >



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Re: [PD] documenting messages to/from Pd and dynamic patching

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

On 27/11/2021 17:19, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:

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Subject:
Re: [PD] documenting messages to/from Pd and dynamic patching
From:
Christof Ressi 
Date:
27/11/2021 à 17:01

To:
Pd-List 


Two examples that come to my mind:

1) [iemguts/canvasselect] allows to (de)select objects simply by 
index. No need to emulate mouse selection with "mouse" and "mouseup".


2) canvases/objects can be moved around with [iemguts/canvasposition] 
resp. [iemguts/canvasobjectposition]


Are there any other use cases for "mouse" and "mouseup"?


Hi. My 2 cents

Personally, I use mouse and mouseup messages to forward multitouch 
events into the patch, received  from my multitouch linux laptop.


If those messages were blocked, all my multitouch ecosystem would be out 
of order :-) .


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[PD] Re [cyclone/MouseState] not working with the Kiosk Plugin on Linux

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

@Ingo
Did you try iemguts/receivecanvas ?


Subject:
[PD] [cyclone/MouseState] not working with the Kiosk Plugin on Linux
From:
"Ingo" 
Date:
02/06/2021 à 19:11

To:
"'Pd list'" 


I was wondering if anybody else is having trouble with 
[cyclone/MouseState] when the kiosk plugin is running.


It's not working anymore here with Debian.

I have made myself an alternative with [hid] but it's not 100% reliable.

[MouseState] was the only left mouse button recognition that always 
worked with absolutely every mouse and touch screen.


Especially with multiple devices like a mouse and a touch screen at 
the same time - there was never a problem.


With [hid] the mouse is recognized 90-95% of the time but not always. 
After unplugging and reconnecting it works.


When I'm having two devices at the same time chances that one of them 
doesn't work after starting up increases.


I'm monitoring /dev/input/ and see if mouse0 or mouse1 is present and 
if yes I check for the hid ID which works perfectly.


But [hid] sometimes simply doesn't open the mouse. [hid] only works 
with the numbers like [open 7(.


[open mouse( or [open mouse1( or [open mouse 1( does not do anything.

Does anyone know how to get [cyclone/MouseState] to work with the 
kisok plugin?


Alternatively, is there a button that registers momentary mouse 
pressing and releasing with a "1" and "0 "?


This means not a switch like [toggle] that needs clicking twice for on 
/ off (1 / 0 )!


I couldn't find anything.

I have buttons that change their function when being pressed briefly 
or being held for 2 seconds.


Thanks!

Ingo



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Re: [PD] is there a way to color the points/curve in an array ?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Great !
If your project is to create a fixed-size oscilloscope abstraction, may 
be it's a good idea  to check also  the original discussion and patch  
by Ingox


(https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/11184/colarray-a-graphical-array-where-color-and-line-width-can-be-set)

 , as my work was mainly  to embed it with some extra features (dynamic 
patching, properties gui, state saving, mobmuplat export) that make 
complexity grow.

J.Y.G.
On 29/05/2021 11:18, hans w. koch wrote:

thanks jean-yves,

thats some serious wizzardry and it seems that i could build my 
oscilliscope from that :-)
have to study it a bit more to really understand, whats going on under 
the hood.


in the meantime i built sth with purr data, which has a properties 
dialogue with a colorpicker. for arrays.

(i wanted sth simple + workable quickly).
ultimately i think, that would be good to have in pd as well.

also will check out your mob collection, as i am a big fan of 
mobmuplat, which sadly seems dormant but still keeps working on the 
newest iOS.


best
hans



Am 29.05.2021 um 10:17 schrieb Jean-Yves Gratius :

Hi hans,

You should try my sarray abstraction (based on this discussion 
https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/11184/colarray-a-graphical-array-where-color-and-line-width-can-be-set)


download here https://github.com/jyg/mob/releases/tag/mob-0.1

There is some trickery to get an array name with $0 tag, but it's 
explained


J.Y.G.


Re: [PD] is there a way to color the points/curve in an array?
From: "hans w. koch" 
Date: 28/05/2021 à 22:02
To: Pd-List 

thank you, roman and alexandre, for the pointers!

it seems, the best option is to wait, till the discussion alexandre 
referenced (https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/711) comes 
to fruition.
purr data has implemented such a color picker for arrays, so that 
would be the second best option.
i looked into Jmmmp multiarray, but i seemed to be better suited at 
displaying static waveforms.

maybe i overlooked something.

i am (ab)using pd as an eight channel oszilloscope.
things get messy pretty fast without colors.







Am 28.05.2021 um 14:59 schrieb Roman Haefeli :

On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 14:04 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 13:31 +0200, hans w. koch wrote:

using 4 superimposed arrays to show different waveforms (e.g. phase
differences), i was wondering, if there is a way to assign a unique
color to each array, to visually better separate the waveforms.
i found a discussion "[PD] Array Enhancements" about that (and
other
things, like "Hide Array name” - still not working) from 2009 [1]
and
another one "[PD] colored arrays?” from 2007 [2],
but no tangible result - or i missed that, then sorry!

As someone mentioned in one of the other threads, you could achieve
colored array displays with data structures.

An example is here:
https://www.netpd.org/fl-hishv.png

Probably much closer to what you actually need is the [multiarray] from
the jmmmp library. It's in Deken.

Roman

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[PD] changing pd~ samplerate programmatically

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello,

I have to synchronize the  samplerate inside a camomille VST plugin that 
uses a pd~ subprocess, with the samplerate used by the host.


I'm aware that we can specify samplerate of subprocess pd~ on creation  
with the flag -sr   as [pd~] argument.


But is there a way to dynamically change this ?

(other than by sending a message such as

[;pd  audio-dialog 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 96000 30 -1 64(

to the subprocess, where only the samplerate value --here 96000-- is 
relevant ?)


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Re: [PD] pd~ and midiin objects

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi Christof


This is neither documented nor official, but you can forward MIDI events
by sending to the following special symbols:

#midiin

#sysexin

#notein

Thanks, that is exactly what I was looking for !

JYG

On 18/03/2021 15:26, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:

Hi,

Is there a way / trick to forward midi events from the main pd 
instance to a pd~ subprocess, so that ctlin / notein etc.. objects 
work in the subprocess patch  ?

Thanks
JYG



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[PD] pd~ and midiin objects

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,

Is there a way / trick to forward midi events from the main pd instance 
to a pd~ subprocess, so that ctlin / notein etc.. objects work in the 
subprocess patch  ?


Thanks

JYG




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[PD] pd~ in Camomile and pd-Vanilla (was Is it possible to specify relative path inside pd~ object for -pddir argument ?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Subject:
Re: [PD] Is it possible to specify relative path inside pd~ object for 
-pddir argument ?

From:
IOhannes m zmölnig 
Date:
13/01/2021 à 15:22

To:
pd-list@lists.iem.at


On 1/13/21 10:03 AM, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to specify a relative path


use an absolute path?
[pdcontrol[ to the rescue!

fgmrda
IOhannes


Ok for using [pdcontrol] to obtain absolute paths.

So I did some investigations (Ubuntu 18.04-5, Reaper, latest pd vanilla 
and camomile v1.0.8-beta)


1)    absolute paths for pddir and scheddir work fine, both in pd 
vanilla and in camomile, when hardcoded as arguments of pd~ box.


2)

[pd~ pddir  , pd~ start subprocess.pd(
|
[pd~ -ninsig 2 -noutsig 2 -fifo 20]

works well in pd vanilla,  although you cannot send  a [pd ~scheddir 
x(  message.  (but if you put pdsched with pd binaries, it's ok)


In my tests, (2) doesn't work in camomile.

3) Now a workaround  will be to dynamically create the pd~ box with all 
hardcoded arguments cooked from [pdcontrol]


Jean-Yves Gratius



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[PD] Is it possible to specify relative path inside pd~ object for -pddir argument ?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,

I'm trying to specify a relative path as argument in the pd~ object 
(using -pddir flag), in order to start a specific copy of pd 
application, located in a relative path, but without success.


Did I miss any particular syntax ?

PS : I want to write a camomile VST3 plugin that launches a pd 
subprocess via pd~, and I would like to include the pure data 
distribution inside my plugin folder structure.



Thanks




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[PD] selected atom inside gop causes TCL errors when subpatch programmatically closed

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,

I know this may be not supported, but since the new feature that 
highlights the last modified atom in a patch,


closing a subpatch with [vis 0( causes tcl errors, if the subpatch 
contains a gop with number/symbol atoms that have been changed, before 
triggering [vis 0( msg.


workaround : click anywhere in the gop to deselect atom, before sending 
[vis 0( msg.


(see attached patch)

pd 0.51

Thanks



gop-vis0.pd
Description: application/wine-extension-pd
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[PD] clone and pdcontrol [dir( message

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi

It seems that when you put pdcontrol in an abstraction that is 
instantiated within clone, pdcontrol doesn't take in consideration the 
owner level /n/  when it receives the [dir /n/( message.


Can you confirm ?

(tested with pd 0.51.0 linux amd64, and with pd 0.51.0 windows i386 via 
wine )


Thanks

J.Y.G.

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[PD] Subject:,Re: exiting edit mode ...

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

On my linux (lubuntu 18.04.4 LTS)  this happens too,  from pd 0.49.0
I also tested with 0.48.0, 0.48.1, 0.48.2 that don't have this behaviour.

Jean-Yves Gratius

On 26/06/2020 12:00, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:

Subject:
Re: [PD] exiting edit mode ...
From:
oliver 
Date:
25/06/2020 à 13:21

To:
pd-l...@mail.iem.at


On 2020-06-25 13:05, Dan Wilcox wrote:

As with most things, that sounds like a bug.

What's missing is the info on the platform you are using. As you write
"CTRL+E" I assume it's Windows.




It's also on LINUX (Debian Buster with PD 0.51), i tested both platforms.

(I use "CTRL" as a shorthand for Strg, Command, Apple etc. just to 
make clear it's not "Shift" or "Alt")


Unfortunately i haven't got a Mac at hand to test there, but i assume 
it's the same there, and that's a regression from PD 0.48




Best

Oliver



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[PD] How to establish a data channel beside Audio Over Osc (was : [PD-announce] AoO (audio over OSC) v2.0-pre2)

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Great project ! many thanks.

I have a side question : How could I communicate between two remote 
instances of Pd using AOO ?
Beyond audio channels, I need a data channel in order to transmit 
control rate messages betwwen the two pd instances.
Shoud I use netsend and netreceive on the same udp channel with a 
specific selector ?


Jean-Yves Gratius

On 23/06/2020 01:08, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:

Subject:
[PD] [PD-announce] AoO (audio over OSC) v2.0-pre2
From:
Christof Ressi 
Date:
22/06/2020 à 15:20

To:
pd-annou...@lists.iem.at


Dear list,

here's a new pre-release for the AoO multichannel audio streaming 
library. In the last two months, the library has been seen many 
improvements and has been used successfully in our Virtual Rehearsal 
Room project (see vrr.iem.at <https://vrr.iem.at/>).


Binaries for all common platforms (Windows, macOS, Linux, ARM boards) 
are available on Deken (search for "aoo"). The source code can be 
found here: https://git.iem.at/cm/aoo


See the help patches (aoo_send~-help.pd, aoo_receive~-help.pd, 
aoo_server.pd) for usage instructions.


If you want to stream between different home networks (without port 
forwarding), you can use [aoo_client] and connect to our public AoO 
server at the IEM (hostname: vrr.iem.at, port: 7077). You can easily 
set up your own AoO server by running a Pd patch containing 
[aoo_server ] on your web server.




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Re: [PD] AoO Coming Out: Audio over OSC - Message based streaming solution goes public...

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Cannot wait for that !!!
Thanks in advance !

On 04/04/2020 15:02, Christof wrote:



I'm currently working on a UDP punch hole server, so that people can 
easily create peer-to-peer-networks over the internet und jam together 
:-) 





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Re: [PD] data structures and z-order (feature request)

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Oh, I didn't realize that I can go to the last position using [next( 
message sent to [pointer] and then append a scalar to the end of the 
scalar list..


Everything is ok now for me. The last created scalar is the last one to 
be drawn, even when refreshing display of the patch.


JYG




On 25/02/2020 19:11, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:


Hi
From previous old discussion ( 
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037622.html )
I understood that datastructure z-orderdrawing depends of creation 
order, but when you programmatically create a new scalar (with 
[traverse ... , bang(  -> [pointer] ->  [append struct_name]), it's 
placed on the top of the list of scalars, although it's drawn at last. 
A refreshing of the window restablishes the correct drawing order.


Would it be possible to get a new pointer at the end of the list (and 
not at the top) ?


Thanks

JYG



On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Federico wrote:

>/i'm seeing there is no z-order tracking in data-structures (i.e.: a 
repaint />/event, or a mouse action, can bring an object to the top). />/is this true? /

DS scalars are stored as linked-lists in the same way as objectboxes,
so you might reorder them the way objectboxes may be reordered
(Cut and then Paste once will bring the selection to the top).

DS arrays are stored like float arrays, so I suppose you can reorder them
like you might reorder elements in a float array (that is, painfully...)
(maybe that there's a lib to help you do it with float arrays, but with DS
arrays, I doubt it)




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[PD] data structures and z-order (feature request)

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi
From previous old discussion ( 
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037622.html )
I understood that datastructure z-orderdrawing depends of creation 
order, but when you programmatically create a new scalar (with [traverse 
... , bang(  -> [pointer] ->  [append struct_name]), it's placed on the 
top of the list of scalars, although it's drawn at last. A refreshing of 
the window restablishes the correct drawing order.


Would it be possible to get a new pointer at the end of the list (and 
not at the top) ?


Thanks

JYG



On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Federico wrote:

>/i'm seeing there is no z-order tracking in data-structures (i.e.: a 
repaint />/event, or a mouse action, can bring an object to the top). />/is this true? /

DS scalars are stored as linked-lists in the same way as objectboxes,
so you might reorder them the way objectboxes may be reordered
(Cut and then Paste once will bring the selection to the top).

DS arrays are stored like float arrays, so I suppose you can reorder them
like you might reorder elements in a float array (that is, painfully...)
(maybe that there's a lib to help you do it with float arrays, but with DS
arrays, I doubt it)


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[PD] Fwd: strange behavior with line~, vline~ and DAC samplerate

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Sorry for the noise,

The trouble occured for samplerates that are  not supported by my soundcard



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Date:   Tue, 28 Jan 2020 23:18:01 +0100
From:   Jean-Yves Gratius 
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at



Hello,

On my computer linux pd 0.50 + ALSA, I have a strange behavior with 
vline~ and line~ :


for DACs set with samplerates < 44100Hz

e.g.  @ samplerate = 22050, the ramps go twice faster as scheduled.

everything ok for samplerates = 48000, 96000  hz

Tested with help patches for vline~ and line~

I cannot further investigate for now. Can someone confirm that ?

Thanks

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[PD] strange behavior with line~, vline~ and DAC samplerate

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello,

On my computer linux pd 0.50 + ALSA, I have a strange behavior with 
vline~ and line~ :


for DACs set with samplerates < 44100Hz

e.g.  @ samplerate = 22050, the ramps go twice faster as scheduled.

everything ok for samplerates = 48000, 96000  hz

Tested with help patches for vline~ and line~

I cannot further investigate for now. Can someone confirm that ?

Thanks




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Re: [PD] What's the easiest way to cut various symbols to a fixed length?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Do you mean that you can hot-plug usb devices and use them in pd without 
restarting it ?

From:
"Ingo" 
I'm reading out the connected MIDI interfaces upon connection by monitoring
the/dev/  folder with [hcs/folder_list] every couple seconds.
Whenever a new midi device gets connected I use a [shell] with [aconnect -i(
to read out the names and IDs and send them with the midi input number of Pd
to an lcd display while connecting it to the Pd MIDI inputs.
So whenever I connect a midi device I know where it comes in.

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Re: [PD] how to use a mouse or drawing tablet with [hid]-like objects AND disabling it as a mouse pointer in the OS (OS X, Linux)?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Once, on mac there was a third party software : OSCulator. 
https://osculator.net/


I don't have a mac and I don't know if its updated and works with recent 
OS version.


On Windows there was glovepie but this seems definitively outdated. ... 
Maybe autoHotkey ?


Still interested if you find a solution...

JYG


Hi list,

I am trying to use a USB mouse to control a patch with the [hid] or
[hidio] objects without this mouse being a mouse pointer in the
operating systems OS X and Linux. This is to avoid this USB mouse doing
accidental clicks in the OS. The [hid] objects are working, I am looking
for a way to have these two OSes not use a certain mouse as pointer.

Replying to myself that on Linux this can be done using the xinput
command.

Still looking how to do this on OS X and also on Win7 and Win10...

cheers, P






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[PD] [hid/hidio] (Debian 9.5) - How to find out the device numbers?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

[PD] [hid] (Debian 9.5) - How to find out the device numbers?
From:
"Ingo" 
Date:
08/10/2019 à 13:33




I need to connect a mouse with varying hardware.
However, "open by device type" does not work.
"Open by vendor / product ID" does not seem to work either.


With the Linux64 hidio external, the message "open by vendor /product 
id" works on my system.


example : [open 0x04f3 0x0224, 1(


Does anybody know how to list the Device Numbers without opening the
console?
In my modified version of hidio (see 
https://github.com/jyg/PdMultitouch/blob/master/hidio/hidio_linux.c)


I changed the code inside *voidhidio_devices**(t_hidio *x)* so that 
when you send the message [devices( , you get the devices list on the 
second outlet of hidio.


This has to be implemented in the hidio_darwin.c file  so that it will 
be consistent between 2 OSs



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Re: [PD] Current status of HID on OS X and Windows?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi Peter,

I recompiled it for linux 64 here 
https://github.com/jyg/PdMultitouch/tree/master/hidio


(with some bug fix for absolute hid devices such as multitouch screens, 
see issue https://github.com/Benitoite/hidio/issues/1 )


Unfortunately, I don't think it is compiled  anywhere for Windows.

J.Y.G.





Re: [PD] Current status of HID on OS X and Windows?.eml

Subject:
Re: [PD] Current status of HID on OS X and Windows?
From:
"Peter P." 
Date:
08/10/2019 à 00:10

To:
pd-list@lists.iem.at


* Jean-Yves Gratius  [2019-10-07 18:50]:

You should have a look at hidio object.

Someone did a mac 64 compile :

https://github.com/Benitoite/hidio

Merci, that looks very exciting! Did anyone manage to compile it for
64bit Linux and for 32bit Windows already? I don't know if the author of
hidio ist on this list...

The above page says that hidio is a fork off
https://puredata.info/downloads/hidio
and I wonder if it got modified somehow.

All very exciting!
P






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Re: [PD] Current status of HID on OS X and Windows?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

You should have a look at hidio object.

Someone did a mac 64 compile :

https://github.com/Benitoite/hidio

J.Y.G.


Re: [PD] Current status of HID on OS X and Windows?.eml

Subject:
Re: [PD] Current status of HID on OS X and Windows?
From:
"Peter P." 
Date:
07/10/2019 à 13:44

To:
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* IOhannes m zmölnig  [2019-10-05 20:22]:

[...]

the macOS list is:

hid-v0-0extended-(Darwin-i386-32)(Darwin-PowerPC-32)-externals.tar.gz
 Uploaded by zmoelnig @ 2015-12-10 14:20:38

this will work on macOS/i686 and macOS/PPC, both of which were 32bit
architectures. so no dice for "Pd-0.50.0 64bit"


and I wonder if that is the latest version?

given that nobody has worked on [hid] for...ages, i'm pretty sure that
this is the latest version.


Would it furthermore make sense to compile it from SVN for Linux?


to achieve what?

if you are only interested in Linux, then you can do "apt install pd-hid".
if you meant "Darwin" instead of Linux, then yes, it's worth a try.
it's also quite possible that you can no longer compile it on modern macOS.

Thanks for these explanations!

Has anyone given hid compilation on OS X a try recently? Possible also as 64bit 
library?






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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.50-0 test1 released - zooming issues

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

There are some troubles with patch-editing features while zooming=2, 
that did not occur with pd v0.49


(mouse cursor position and created objects position are not consistent 
with zoom=2)


As I am addicted with this zooming feature, I proposed some fixes in a 
new P.R.


https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/733





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Re: [PD] iemguts for pd-windows-64 ?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

great !
thanks a lot Lucas !

On 08/04/2019 04:46, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:

Subject:
Re: [PD] iemguts for pd-windows-64 ?
From:
Lucas Cordiviola 
Date:
08/04/2019 à 04:12

To:
Jean-Yves Gratius , "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 




Hi Jean-Yves!

I have just uploaded  "iemguts[v0.2.1](Windows-amd64-32)" to Deken.

Should show up in less than 24hs.


:)

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.



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Re: [PD] ggee/shell makes pd+gem crash

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Well,  I'd like to do a pull request for ggee/shell external.
Which repository should I refer to  ?
https://github.com/pd-externals/ggee  ?
    https://github.com/reduzent/pd-ggee ?


On 19/03/2019 13:00, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:

On 19/03/2019 12:37, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

did you check https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/issues/224 ?


Thanks for the link, it is exactly the described problem.

So I changed |execvp()| instead of |system() in shell.c and it works now.|
|
|
|I'll make a PR.|
|
|
|Jean-Yves
|





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Re: [PD] ggee/shell makes pd+gem crash

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

On 19/03/2019 12:37, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

did you check https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/issues/224 ?


Thanks for the link, it is exactly the described problem.

So I changed |execvp()| instead of |system() in shell.c and it works now.|
|
|
|I'll make a PR.|
|
|
|Jean-Yves
|



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[PD] ggee/shell makes pd+gem crash

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi

I'm experiencing an issue with ggee/shell object on linux : It makes pd 
crash if I create a gem window after having used shell.





crashtest_shell+gem.pd
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Re: [PD] In 2019 is there a way to detect mouse down/up?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Great stuff.

@ Chris :
Thanks for the gui-plugin, good example for learning how they work.
Just out of curiosity : do you have a touch screen ?

Jean Yves

On 17/03/2019 13:24, Chris McCormick wrote:

Hi,

On 15/3/19 5:37 pm, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:
Then you'll always need to have a receiver (named "MOUSE") in your 
patch, else you will receive error messages in pd console.
If you click on a bang object in your patch, you can then listen to 
the MOUSE receiver and wait for the message "mouseup"

Thanks, I made a plugin based on this idea:

https://github.com/chr15m/pd-push-and-hold

Install push-and-hold-plugin.tcl into your externals path so that it's 
loaded at startup. Then you can use the push-and-hold object to 
connect up a GUI object.


I uploaded it with deken so hopefully it will be available tomorrow.

Cheers,

Chris.






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Re: [PD] In 2019 is there a way to detect mouse down/up?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Not sure it can be considered as a vanilla solution, but you should edit 
tcl/pdtk_canvas.tcl file and add one line in the proc 
pdtk_canvas_mouseup (line 216) :


proc pdtk_canvas_mouseup {tkcanvas x y b} {
    set mytoplevel [winfo toplevel $tkcanvas]
    pdsend "$mytoplevel mouseup [$tkcanvas canvasx $x] [$tkcanvas 
canvasy $y] $b"

    pdsend "MOUSE mouseup [$tkcanvas canvasx $x] [$tkcanvas canvasy $y] $b"
}
(see attachment)

Then you'll always need to have a receiver (named "MOUSE") in your 
patch, else you will receive error messages in pd console.
If you click on a bang object in your patch, you can then listen to the 
MOUSE receiver and wait for the message "mouseup"


On 14/03/2019 13:32, Fede Camara Halac wrote:

Not the best solution, but you may be able to monitor a slider for value 
changes to emulate a click-down, click-up situation... so you'd be tricking a 
click-drag :)


fdch.github.io


On Mar 14, 2019, at 11:02 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig  wrote:


On 14.03.19 10:42, Chris McCormick wrote:


keep in mind that it is not touch sensitive.

What do you mean by this? It only responds to mouse events and not touch
events?

no. that's not what i meant.

it was a(n admittedly stupid) joke on the discrepancy between a
mouse-based interface (where you only get a boolean value of whether a
button is clicked or not) and the expectation of a (musical) "hardware
keyboard" that typically gives you "touch sensitive" data in the form of
'velocity'.

fgamsdr
IOhannes


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package provide pdtk_canvas 0.1

package require pd_bindings

namespace eval ::pdtk_canvas:: {
namespace export pdtk_canvas_popup
namespace export pdtk_canvas_editmode
namespace export pdtk_canvas_getscroll
namespace export pdtk_canvas_setparents
namespace export pdtk_canvas_reflecttitle
namespace export pdtk_canvas_menuclose
}

# store the filename associated with this window,
# so we can use it during menuclose
array set ::pdtk_canvaswindow_fullname {}

# One thing that is tricky to understand is the difference between a Tk
# 'canvas' and a 'canvas' in terms of Pd's implementation.  They are similar,
# but not the same thing.  In Pd code, a 'canvas' is basically a patch, while
# the Tk 'canvas' is the backdrop for drawing everything that is in a patch.
# The Tk 'canvas' is contained in a 'toplevel' window. That window has a Tk
# class of 'PatchWindow'.

# TODO figure out weird frameless window when you open a graph


#TODO: http://wiki.tcl.tk/11502
# MS Windows
#wm geometry . returns contentswidthxcontentsheight+decorationTop+decorationLeftEdge.
#and
#winfo rooty . returns contentsTop
#winfo rootx . returns contentsLeftEdge

if {$::tcl_version < 8.5 || \
($::tcl_version == 8.5 && \
 [tk windowingsystem] eq "aqua" && \
 [lindex [split [info patchlevel] "."] 2] < 13) } {
# fit the geometry onto screen for Tk 8.4,
# also check for Tk Cocoa backend on macOS which is only stable in 8.5.13+;
# newer versions of Tk can handle multiple monitors so allow negative pos
proc pdtk_canvas_wrap_window {x y w h} {
set width [lindex [wm maxsize .] 0]
set height [lindex [wm maxsize .] 1]

if {$w > $width} {
set w $width
set x 0
}
if {$h > $height} {
# 30 for window framing
set h [expr $height - $::menubarsize - $::windowframey]
set y $::menubarsize
}

set x [ expr $x % $width]
set y [ expr $y % $height]
if {$x < 0} {set x 0}
if {$y < 0} {set y 0}

return [list ${x} ${y} ${w} ${h}]
}
} {
proc pdtk_canvas_wrap_window {x y w h} {
return [list ${x} ${y} ${w} ${h}]
}
}

# this proc is split out on its own to make it easy to override. This makes it
# easy for people to customize these calculations based on their Window
# Manager, desires, etc.
proc pdtk_canvas_place_window {width height geometry} {
::pdwindow::configure_window_offset

# read back the current geometry +posx+posy into variables
scan $geometry {%[+]%d%[+]%d} - x - y
set xywh [pdtk_canvas_wrap_window \
[expr $x - $::windowframex] [expr $y - $::windowframey] $width $height]
set x [lindex $xywh 0]
set y [lindex $xywh 1]
set w [lindex $xywh 2]
set h [lindex $xywh 3]
return [list ${w} ${h} ${w}x${h}+${x}+${y}]
}


#--#
# canvas new/saveas

proc pdtk_canvas_new {mytoplevel width height geometry editable} {
set l [pdtk_canvas_place_window $width $height $geometry]
set width [lindex $l 0]
set height [lindex $l 1]
set geometry [lindex $l 2]
set ::undo_actions($mytoplevel) no
set ::redo_actions($mytoplevel) no

# release the window grab here so that the 

[PD] using old wacom tablet with hidio osx

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,

I'm using an old wacom tablet (graphire) with pd and hidio external.

On Linux it works fine.

I would like to deploy my patch on mac machines but on OSX I don't know 
how to prevent this tablet from acting like a mouse for the OS,


With linux there is the command "xinput float " but I don 
find any equivalent on mac...


Many thanks in advance

Jean-Yves




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Re: [PD] Pd as vst plugin

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

I was not aware of latest Steinberg licensing issues.
However, I regret but I did'nt consider adding linux / osx support. Not 
so much time and skills to do that...

Jean-Yves

On 07/03/2019 13:25, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:

Hi!
Thanks for the tip. I did come across this during my searching before.
I'd offer to help adapt it to run on Linux and OSX, but I did not 
foresee Steinberg illegalizing VST2. I would not be legally allowed to 
do this since I did not obtain a license before Oct 2018. I would 
gladly help with testing, though. Any idea how much struggle would be 
involved? Are Linux and OSX support something you'd consider?

-Chuckk

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 11:26 AM Jean-Yves Gratius <mailto:j...@gumo.fr>> wrote:


Hi
If you are on Windows,  pdvst lets you use puredata as vst plugin
with externals.
http://puredata.info/Members/jyg/software/pdvst

J.Y.G.

On 07/03/2019 09:31, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at
<mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote:

Subject:
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity
From:
Chuckk Hubbard 
<mailto:badmuthahubb...@gmail.com>
Date:
07/03/2019 à 09:14

To:
pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>


Thank you for straightening me out on that, Christof! I had seen
this one and vst~, but for some reason I only tested vst~, which
gave me too many problems to recommend it to my program's users,
but this does indeed do exactly what I want; well, it would be
ideal if I could put the whole thing inside another VST plugin,
but I understand this is not an option for the moment, to use Pd
as VST plugin together with externals... Unless there's something
else I'm missing...

Chuckk



On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 8:57 PM Christof Ressi
mailto:christof.re...@gmx.at>> wrote:

> good, for me, plugin integration would make a huge difference.

Search deken for vstplugin~ or checkout
https://git.iem.at/pd/vstplugin

It's a vst host for pd and supercollider. The alpha release
is vst2 only but a new (stable) release with vst3 support
will be out in a couple of days.

Christof

> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. März 2019 um 18:21 Uhr
> Von: "Chuckk Hubbard" mailto:badmuthahubb...@gmail.com>>
> An: "Pure Data List" mailto:pd-l...@iem.at>>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Purr-Data Google Summer of
Code opportunity
>
> Re: GSoC for Purr Data, I just want to say
> 1. That's great news! Congratulations!
> 2. I saw the list, and while I'm sure some internal
improvements would be
> good, for me, plugin integration would make a huge difference.
> VST has unfortunately been completely removed from Csound
in response to
> Steinberg's aggressive approach, old CPS seems not to work
anymore, and
> yes, PD's plugin possibilities are unstable. There are
Distrho PF and
> iPlug2 and Faust, but none of these allow hosting, only
being hosted. Other
> than that, to write software that hosts as well as plugs
VST, it's Juce or
> Steinberg's SDK.
> A few years ago, it seemed like this functionality was
cropping up
> everywhere. Today it has disappeared. I for one would be
thrilled to see
> this happen.
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 9:10 PM Ivica Bukvic mailto:i...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>
> > Greetings fellow Pd enthusiasts,
> >
> > As some of you may be already aware, ast year the
Purr-Data (a.k.a.
> > Pd-L2Ork v2) was adapted to support native 64-bit
operations. We are
> > pleased to report that Purr-Data was once again selected
this year as one
> > of the GSoC projects. This means more opportunities to
engage and help
> > further the platform. Ideas for this year are plentiful,
ranging from core
> > infrastructure (C) development to patching and front-end
development,
> > including porting Pd-L2Ork's K12 learning module that has
seen its
> > utilization in dozens of Maker camps over the past 7 years.
> >
> > If interested, please contact Jonathan and/or me to
explore potential
> > projects and to discuss the next steps in the application
process.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Ico
> >
> > --
> > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> > Director, Creativity + Innovation
> > Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
 

Re: [PD] Pd as vst plugin (was: [PD-announce] Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi
If you are on Windows,  pdvst lets you use puredata as vst plugin with 
externals.

http://puredata.info/Members/jyg/software/pdvst

J.Y.G.

On 07/03/2019 09:31, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:

Subject:
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity
From:
Chuckk Hubbard 
Date:
07/03/2019 à 09:14

To:
pd-list@lists.iem.at


Thank you for straightening me out on that, Christof! I had seen this 
one and vst~, but for some reason I only tested vst~, which gave me 
too many problems to recommend it to my program's users, but this does 
indeed do exactly what I want; well, it would be ideal if I could put 
the whole thing inside another VST plugin, but I understand this is 
not an option for the moment, to use Pd as VST plugin together with 
externals... Unless there's something else I'm missing...


Chuckk



On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 8:57 PM Christof Ressi > wrote:


> good, for me, plugin integration would make a huge difference.

Search deken for vstplugin~ or checkout
https://git.iem.at/pd/vstplugin

It's a vst host for pd and supercollider. The alpha release is
vst2 only but a new (stable) release with vst3 support will be out
in a couple of days.

Christof

> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. März 2019 um 18:21 Uhr
> Von: "Chuckk Hubbard" mailto:badmuthahubb...@gmail.com>>
> An: "Pure Data List" mailto:pd-l...@iem.at>>
> Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Purr-Data Google Summer of Code
opportunity
>
> Re: GSoC for Purr Data, I just want to say
> 1. That's great news! Congratulations!
> 2. I saw the list, and while I'm sure some internal improvements
would be
> good, for me, plugin integration would make a huge difference.
> VST has unfortunately been completely removed from Csound in
response to
> Steinberg's aggressive approach, old CPS seems not to work
anymore, and
> yes, PD's plugin possibilities are unstable. There are Distrho
PF and
> iPlug2 and Faust, but none of these allow hosting, only being
hosted. Other
> than that, to write software that hosts as well as plugs VST,
it's Juce or
> Steinberg's SDK.
> A few years ago, it seemed like this functionality was cropping up
> everywhere. Today it has disappeared. I for one would be
thrilled to see
> this happen.
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 9:10 PM Ivica Bukvic mailto:i...@vt.edu>> wrote:
>
> > Greetings fellow Pd enthusiasts,
> >
> > As some of you may be already aware, ast year the Purr-Data
(a.k.a.
> > Pd-L2Ork v2) was adapted to support native 64-bit operations.
We are
> > pleased to report that Purr-Data was once again selected this
year as one
> > of the GSoC projects. This means more opportunities to engage
and help
> > further the platform. Ideas for this year are plentiful,
ranging from core
> > infrastructure (C) development to patching and front-end
development,
> > including porting Pd-L2Ork's K12 learning module that has seen its
> > utilization in dozens of Maker camps over the past 7 years.
> >
> > If interested, please contact Jonathan and/or me to explore
potential
> > projects and to discuss the next steps in the application process.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Ico
> >
> > --
> > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> > Director, Creativity + Innovation
> > Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
> >
> > Virginia Tech
> > Creative Technologies in Music
> > School of Performing Arts – 0141
> > Blacksburg, VA 24061
> > (540) 231-6139
> > i...@vt.edu 
> >
> > www.icat.vt.edu 
> > www.performingarts.vt.edu 
> > l2ork.icat.vt.edu 
> > ico.bukvic.net 
> >
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[PD] RE status of leap motion controller in Pd, especially on Linux?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi Peter,
2 months ago I used this tutorial 
https://philtgun.me/2017/02/04/leap-synthesizer-in-pure-data/

and succeeded in installing leap motion external on my linux machine.

JYG

On 26/02/2019 17:11, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:

Subject:
[PD] status of leap motion controller in Pd, especially on Linux?
From:
"Peter P." 
Date:
26/02/2019 à 15:18

To:
pd-list 


Hi,

what is the current status of leap motion support for Pd?
I saw Chikashi Miyama's external at
https://github.com/chikashimiyama/Pd_leapmotion
and a specific windows version apparently for leap motion V.2
https://github.com/chikashimiyama/Pd_Leapmotion_win

Am I correct to assume that the latter uses some leapmotion SDK that the
former doesn't use? What would furthermore be the best way to use the
controller under linux in Pd?

Thanks for all hints!
P






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Re: [PD] datastructures fonts are not zoomed when pressing (ctrl + '+') in a patch

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi

On github repository for pure-data, I have just sent a Pull Request for 
some modifications enabling zooming with datastructures.


I tested them with the DS tutorial of puredata help, Seems to work for me...

Regards

JYG


On 21/02/2019 20:27, Miller Puckette wrote:

I'll give this a look when I next can get a few cycles... I'm afraid I've
been treading water the last 2 or 3 months.

The data structure stuff needs a deep re-think.

cheers
Miller

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 03:29:27PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:

Most of what I did was to double the sizing of things while making sure to 
double or halve some settings for the settings dialogs. For data structures, 
I???d imagine we would need to keep track of the original/virtual size and 
halve the mouse position while doubling the size when zoomed...

enohp ym morf tnes
---
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danomatika.com
robotcowboy.com



On Feb 21, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Jean-Yves Gratius  wrote:

OK, thanks.
I'm having a look at this.
I will tell you back if I got any success.
JYG


On 20/02/2019 20:21, Dan Wilcox wrote:
That is correct. DS are not zoomed. I was able to update all of the guis for 
fully-supported zooming, but DS was too much of an issue for me to tackle at 
the time.


On Feb 20, 2019, at 7:22 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:

From: Jean-Yves Gratius 
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: [PD] datastructures fonts are not zoomed when pressing (ctrl
+ '+') in a patch
Message-ID: <7a21f5e7-5ed0-fd41-af3d-fc1d53154...@gumo.fr>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hello,

I noticed that drawn datastructures in a patch aren 't zoomed when
zooming in (ctrl + '+') in this patch.
If the DS are drawn in a gop subpatch, they are zoomed in position when
the parent patch is zoomed, except for number and symbol fields.

The displayed position of DS inside subpatch is not clear for me . It
seems to depend of the gop settings and of the side of the opened
subpatch window (remembering puredata pre 0.38 style...)

I opened an issue
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/562


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika
danomatika.com
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Re: [PD] datastructures fonts are not zoomed when pressing (ctrl + '+') in a patch

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

OK, thanks.
I'm having a look at this.
I will tell you back if I got any success.
JYG

On 20/02/2019 20:21, Dan Wilcox wrote:
That is correct. DS are not zoomed. I was able to update all of the 
guis for fully-supported zooming, but DS was too much of an issue for 
me to tackle at the time.


On Feb 20, 2019, at 7:22 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at 
<mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote:


From: Jean-Yves Gratius mailto:j...@gumo.fr>>
To:pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>
Subject: [PD] datastructures fonts are not zoomed when pressing (ctrl
+ '+') in a patch
Message-ID: <7a21f5e7-5ed0-fd41-af3d-fc1d53154...@gumo.fr 
<mailto:7a21f5e7-5ed0-fd41-af3d-fc1d53154...@gumo.fr>>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hello,

I noticed that drawn datastructures in a patch aren 't zoomed when
zooming in (ctrl + '+') in this patch.
If the DS are drawn in a gop subpatch, they are zoomed in position when
the parent patch is zoomed, except for number and symbol fields.

The displayed position of DS inside subpatch is not clear for me . It
seems to depend of the gop settings and of the side of the opened
subpatch window (remembering puredata pre 0.38 style...)

I opened an issue
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/562



Dan Wilcox
@danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com>





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[PD] datastructures fonts are not zoomed when pressing (ctrl + '+') in a patch

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello,

I noticed that drawn datastructures in a patch aren 't zoomed when 
zooming in (ctrl + '+') in this patch.
If the DS are drawn in a gop subpatch, they are zoomed in position when 
the parent patch is zoomed, except for number and symbol fields.


The displayed position of DS inside subpatch is not clear for me . It 
seems to depend of the gop settings and of the side of the opened 
subpatch window (remembering puredata pre 0.38 style...)


I opened an issue
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/562





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[PD] invoking [value] and [send] objects without arguments

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello,

I noticed (pd 0.49) that [value]  invoked without creation argument is  
"listening" to any [send] invoked without creation argument.


This can lead to error message ("value : no method for ...") when 
passing any message to the send object.


This is a logical behaviour, as you shouldn't pass a message to a send 
object without specified target.


But in my case I spent some time before discovering the error I made in 
my patch.


What do you think about one of following feature request  ?

  1) warn about this behaviour in hel patch ?

or

 2) generate a warning in console when using send without target ?

thks

JYG




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[PD] Fwd: Re: drag and drop

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

see attached example, mix of 1) and 2)    :-)



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Subject:Re: drag and drop
Date:   Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:06:57 +0100
From:   Jean-Yves Gratius 
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at



Hello,
In response to your problem about scrolled window :

1) you should put an iemguts/canvasreceive object in your main patch
and  wait for the first motion event it delivers after you received a
dnd-dropped message (assuming you will move a bit the mouse after
dropping down). This way, you get the correct coordinates in the patch,
may the window be scrolled or not.
2) you should put a bang gui-object in your gop abstraction. Then,
receiving global dnd-dropped msg will "arm" it, and you'll have to click
to the gui-bang to confirm the operation. It's not pure "drag and drop"
but it is a vanilia approach, and you don't have to calculate about gop
coords and margins. Just wait for a click on a bang button.



EtudeDnd.pd
Description: application/wine-extension-pd
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Re: [PD] drag and drop

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello,
In response to your problem about scrolled window :

1) you should put an iemguts/canvasreceive object in your main patch 
and  wait for the first motion event it delivers after you received a 
dnd-dropped message (assuming you will move a bit the mouse after 
dropping down). This way, you get the correct coordinates in the patch, 
may the window be scrolled or not.
2) you should put a bang gui-object in your gop abstraction. Then, 
receiving global dnd-dropped msg will "arm" it, and you'll have to click 
to the gui-bang to confirm the operation. It's not pure "drag and drop" 
but it is a vanilia approach, and you don't have to calculate about gop 
coords and margins. Just wait for a click on a bang button.





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[PD] Multitouch inside Puredata (linux + laptop with touchscreen)

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello,

I'd like to share some experiments with multitouch inside puredata 
native interface.


video here , project here 



To do this, I catch the  MT (multitouch)- protocol (B)  events from the 
touchscreen and generate demultiplexed mouse events in puredata.


if someone want to test it, I'd be curious to know if it works on other 
multitouchscreen laptops. I don't know if MT protocol is implemented the 
same way on different touchscreens.


Thanks in advance

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Re: [PD] Compiling [Abl_link~] on windows64

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

I think Ableton Link source code has to be compiled with MSVC.
In my build, I used the command-line style  MSVC compiler inside a 
code::blocks project . You can have a look here 
https://github.com/jyg/pure-data/tree/master/abl_link%7E
My main difficulty for now is how to install the command-line MSVC 
compiler without installing the full Visual suite (many GB) !


On 24/10/2018 01:41, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:


:(

I been trying to build it but i constantly get into troubles. had to
install "boost" on Msys2 but i can't build it. also tried 'cmake' but
... :(.
Also I have very few skills on compiling.

Can you give me some clues or tips on how did you make the 32 version?

Is not urgent.

:)

--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.







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Re: [PD] Who is maintaining hcs/hid external ? (was : Question about hid external and polling)

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

I tried pd-hid from debian package installer (v 0.7-3)
the problem persists  (listening to my touchscreen, some events are 
duplicated, others are lost)


BTW @lucas regarding your haijacking question : my windows computer 
crashed, so unfortunately at this moment I'm unable to (re)compile any 
external for windows  :-(


On 14/10/2018 17:53, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:


Take a look here on the Debian pkgs:

https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=umlaeute=yes=3=unstable=1


it takes you to here:

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/pd-hid

you can try 0.7-3.

you must apply the patches from "pd-hid_0.7-3.debian.tar.xz" to 
"pd-hid_0.7.orig.tar.gz"


BTW and rather hijacking this thread:
Can you make an 64bit windows [abl_link~]. ?


:)

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 10/14/2018 9:30 AM, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:


Hello,
I am experiencing issues with hid external loosing incoming some 
messages from input device (touchscreen).

Is there somebody maintaining this object ? where can I post issues ?

For my project (multitouch inside Puredata with native gui objects*), 
I found a workaround but I would prefer to be able to use hid object.

Thanks

J.Y.G.

* see https://vimeo.com/292789121


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Date:   Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:18:46 +0200
From:   Jean-Yves Gratius 
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at



Hello,
So, I'm experiencing issues with [hid] object for listening my
multitouchscreen device (linux).
I can confirm that some messages sent by the touchscreen are lost and
not retrieved in Puredata using this object. I can observe this when I
print in the pd-console  the output of Hid and compare it simultenaously
with the output of an utilitary listening for the same device : evtest.

Is this list the best choice for reporting this issue or may I open an
issue elsewhere ?
Thanks

On 21/09/2018 19:48, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to retrieve infos from an Elan mutlitouchscreen  using hid 
> object in puredata (on linux).

>
> I succeeded in getting multitouch infos, but with some 
> inconsistencies, so I wonder if I may loose some messages dueto 
> incorrect  polling value ?

>
> Is there a non polling mode giving all the incoming messages as they 
> arrive ?

>
> Thanks so much.
>
> J.Y.G
>



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[PD] Who is maintaining hcs/hid external ? (was : Question about hid external and polling)

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello,
I am experiencing issues with hid external loosing incoming some 
messages from input device (touchscreen).

Is there somebody maintaining this object ? where can I post issues ?

For my project (multitouch inside Puredata with native gui objects*), I 
found a workaround but I would prefer to be able to use hid object.

Thanks

J.Y.G.

* see https://vimeo.com/292789121


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Subject:Re: Question about hid external and polling
Date:   Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:18:46 +0200
From:   Jean-Yves Gratius 
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at



Hello,
So, I'm experiencing issues with [hid] object for listening my
multitouchscreen device (linux).
I can confirm that some messages sent by the touchscreen are lost and
not retrieved in Puredata using this object. I can observe this when I
print in the pd-console  the output of Hid and compare it simultenaously
with the output of an utilitary listening for the same device : evtest.

Is this list the best choice for reporting this issue or may I open an
issue elsewhere ?
Thanks

On 21/09/2018 19:48, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to retrieve infos from an Elan mutlitouchscreen  using hid 
object in puredata (on linux).


I succeeded in getting multitouch infos, but with some 
inconsistencies, so I wonder if I may loose some messages dueto 
incorrect  polling value ?


Is there a non polling mode giving all the incoming messages as they 
arrive ?


Thanks so much.

J.Y.G



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Re: [PD] Question about hid external and polling

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello,
So, I'm experiencing issues with [hid] object for listening my 
multitouchscreen device (linux).
I can confirm that some messages sent by the touchscreen are lost and 
not retrieved in Puredata using this object. I can observe this when I 
print in the pd-console  the output of Hid and compare it simultenaously 
with the output of an utilitary listening for the same device : evtest.


Is this list the best choice for reporting this issue or may I open an 
issue elsewhere ?

Thanks

On 21/09/2018 19:48, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to retrieve infos from an Elan mutlitouchscreen  using hid 
object in puredata (on linux).


I succeeded in getting multitouch infos, but with some 
inconsistencies, so I wonder if I may loose some messages dueto 
incorrect  polling value ?


Is there a non polling mode giving all the incoming messages as they 
arrive ?


Thanks so much.

J.Y.G






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Re: [PD] Window Title Bar off screen

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Now, even with an earlier version of pd (0.48.1) the problem occurs.
Meanwhile I upgraded my OS so I suspect this to be responsible, but I 
cannot further investigate for now.

Sorry for the noise...
JYG


From:
IOhannes m zmölnig 
Date:
20/09/2018 13:48

To:
pd-list@lists.iem.at


On 9/18/18 11:10 AM, Jean-Yves Gratius wrote:

since pd 0.48-2, when I open from Pd some helpfiles or tutorials, the
title bar of the opened patch is above the upper border of my screen. I
cannot access it.

which version was the last one that worked?
does it still work? (aka: has the window-manager changed?)

fmasdr
IOhannes



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[PD] Question about hid external and polling

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,

I'm trying to retrieve infos from an Elan mutlitouchscreen  using hid 
object in puredata (on linux).


I succeeded in getting multitouch infos, but with some inconsistencies, 
so I wonder if I may loose some messages dueto incorrect  polling value ?


Is there a non polling mode giving all the incoming messages as they 
arrive ?


Thanks so much.

J.Y.G




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[PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test3 -

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,

since pd 0.48-2, when I open from Pd some helpfiles or tutorials, the 
title bar of the opened patch is above the upper border of my screen. I 
cannot access it.


example :

2.control.examples/01.PART1.hello.pd

The same occurs with Pd 0.49-0test3

(fresh downloaded and compiled today, lubuntu 64 bits 18.04.1 LTS )




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[PD] strange behaviour with #xcoords line ending patch-file

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,
I cannot figure how some of my patches ended with a line like "#X coords 
0 388 1 387 190 70 0;",
but when I open those patches, if i resize the window with the mouse, 
all the objects within the patch get translated.

please find an example attached.
(pd 0.48-1, lubuntu 17.10 )
Thanks
Jean-Yves Gratius
#N canvas 1 56 553 530 10;
#X obj 0 0 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1;
#X msg 122 32 pos 0 0;
#X text 195 30 1) click on message box to move the toogle into 0 \,
0;
#X text 195 50 2) resize the window and reclick the message box;
#X connect 1 0 0 0;
#X coords 0 530 1 529 190 70 0;
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Re: [PD] pix_opencv on linux

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi Antoine, thanks for your answer.
1) in verbose mode, i get the following lines when i try to create a 
pix_opencv object in pd :
*tried /home/jyg/Documents/Pd/externals/pix_opencv/pix_opencv.l_ia64 and 
succeeded**
**/home/jyg/Documents/Pd/externals/pix_opencv/pix_opencv.l_ia64: 
libopencv_video.so.2.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or 
directory*


2) Same result before and after doing the following command : *|sudo 
apt-get install libopencv-*


|*3) When I search for opencv with Synaptic, and if i check  the 
properties for (for example) libopencv-video3.1, it says that the 
installed files are /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopencv_video.so.3.1 and 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopencv_video.so.3.1.0


J.Y.G.

On 07/05/2018 22:23, Antoine Villeret wrote:

Hello,

Why can't you load the lib ?
There should be some error in the console at least in verbose mode.
But iirc this build is dynamically linked to open CV.
 So you need to install it with apt for instance

+
A

Le lun. 7 mai 2018 à 22:09, Jean-Yves Gratius <j...@gumo.fr 
<mailto:j...@gumo.fr>> a écrit :


Hi list

I have downloaded  pix_opencv by Antoine Villeret  from deken
(pix_opencv-v0.4-(Linux-amd64-64)-externals.tar.gz)

I cannot load the lib

(pd 0.48.1, ubuntu 17.10)

Any hint ?

thanks



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[PD] pix_opencv on linux

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi list

I have downloaded  pix_opencv by Antoine Villeret  from deken 
(pix_opencv-v0.4-(Linux-amd64-64)-externals.tar.gz)


I cannot load the lib

(pd 0.48.1, ubuntu 17.10)

Any hint ?

thanks



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[PD] w64 [pd~] and also experimental w64 pdvst~

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,
I built a 64 bit version of the scheduler for pd-vst , a wraper to use 
puredata with all its externals as vst plugin inside a vst host. 
(windows only).

you can now use puredata w32 or w64 with it.

It's still experimental, but you can download and test it here :
http://puredata.info/Members/jyg/software/pdvst/download

@ Lucas
I set the compilation flag you said, and I had to fight with my antivirus.
Now it seems to work fine with puredata w64. Great !
Note that the 32bit scheduler works fine with PurrData too.




De :
Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com>
Date :
26/01/2018 20:53

Pour :
Jean-Yves Gratius <j...@gumo.fr>, "pd-list@lists.iem.at" 
<pd-list@lists.iem.at>



Hi Jean-Yves

Did you test pd~ external ? I tested it, but it doesn't work on my 
computer. 


I only try the help patch and is working fine.


**

On pdvst~:


I have just built a vstschedlib.dll for W64 but it crashes after a while.

need to do further investigations, (later...)


||

Be aware of this: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/7 
<https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/7>


You should give a preprocessor flag when compiling: 
/CPPFLAGS=-DPD_LONGINTTYPE=__int64/


This days I will try to set up an 64bit DAW. I still use all 32 bit 
audio things, time to switch. : -)



Let me know when there's something to test.


Salutti,
Lucarda


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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 154, Issue 57

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Lucas Cordiviola  wrote :
I was thinking of your Pdvst~ these days as we have a working Pd64bit, 
the fire started from Christoff’s 
candle:https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/275 




As I am an Pdvst~ addict may be, if possible, we can have an 
experimental version. I think is just about compiling it with Msys2 
MinGW64?



Hi Lucas,

I tried your pd-0.48-1-w64-tcltk-w64 built, seems ok. fine !

Did you test pd~ external ? I tested it, but it doesn't work on my 
computer.


I have just built a vstschedlib.dll for W64 but it crashes after a while.

need to do further investigations, (later...)

Jean-Yves


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Re: [PD] Why does it take so long time for switching pd audio into ASIO (via port audio) mode ?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Bingo !
i get error messages "Execution of JACK server  failed", and several 
"cannot connect to named pipe after wait".
I tried to start pd with --disable-jack (as found here 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/25 ) but pd doesn't start.


Le 24/01/2018 à 13:04, Christof Ressi a écrit :

I also have the issue that ASIO audio settings take some time to open (and i 
know the reason). Just to be sure we're on the same boat: can you open pd.com 
from the cmd terminal (or pd.exe from a mingw terminal) and see if you get JACK 
related error messages when you open the ASIO audio settings?


Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Januar 2018 um 11:30 Uhr
Von: "Jean-Yves Gratius" <j...@gumo.fr>
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Betreff: [PD] Why does it take so long time for switching pd audio into ASIO 
(via port audio) mode ?

Hi
another question regardind pd 0.48-1 on windows:

When i switch onto asio mode, it take 10 seconds before the audiosetting
box appears.
Is this a normal behaviour ?  (Windows 8.1, intel i-5)
And sometimes the interface seems very sensitive to dropouts and can
desync, and i have to restart it (especially when i use a heavy patch).

As a comparison, with Reaper, switching from one audio system to another
is quasi instantaneous.

before making further investigation, i wanted to know if other users may
have the same experience .

thanks,
JYG


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[PD] Why does it take so long time for switching pd audio into ASIO (via port audio) mode ?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi
another question regardind pd 0.48-1 on windows:

When i switch onto asio mode, it take 10 seconds before the audiosetting 
box appears.

Is this a normal behaviour ?  (Windows 8.1, intel i-5)
And sometimes the interface seems very sensitive to dropouts and can 
desync, and i have to restart it (especially when i use a heavy patch).


As a comparison, with Reaper, switching from one audio system to another 
is quasi instantaneous.


before making further investigation, i wanted to know if other users may 
have the same experience .


thanks,
JYG


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[PD] WASAPI support for windows

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,
Is there any support in puredata for wasapi audio driver on windows ?
I saw it mentionned in the sources 
(https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/portaudio/portaudio/src/hostapi/wasapi/pa_win_wasapi.c), 
but i cannot find it on pd menus .

I'm on windows 8.1.

Thanks in advance
JYG


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[PD] pure data upper memory limit ?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi, list
I use pd 32 bits (0.48) on windows 8.1

I have a patch with lots of array and loaded abstractions,
In Windows task manager i can see that pd uses  circa 900 Mo of ram.
from time to time, I get some messages 'out of memory', i cannot resize 
arrays.

Is there any memory limitation I 'm reaching with my patch ?
thanks


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[PD] pd 0.48 test5 windows : pd~ subprocess

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hello,

finally, i tested pd-0.48-0test5b.msw  (windows 8.1) and on my computer 
it seems that pd~ (subprocess) doesn't work. (it works on pd 0.47.1)


- opening file extra/pd~/pd~-help.pd  OK

- starting the subprocess OK

- pd-subprocess receives messages (foo bar baz( from main process OK

but

- sending signal to subprocess (by checking the boxes below [osc~ 440] 
in pd~-help) makes the subprocess crash and the main process freeze


- pd~-help.pd doesnt receive subprocess messagse [a b c(   etc...

- sending signal from subprocess to main process (by checking the boxes 
below [osc~ 440] in pd~-subprocess) create erratic values in main 
process (1.#INF or 1.QNAN after [env~ 8192] box)



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[PD] pdvst - update

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi list,
I updated pdvst for pure-data 0.47-1.

updated documentation
native plugin gui support (e.g. tcl/tk) inside host window
play head & midi out support
etc...

http://puredata.info/Members/jyg/software/pdvst

cheers
JYG

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Re: [PD] abl_link~ external for windows

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,
Lucas, thanks for the instructions with Deken.
I uploaded manually the zip archive in my section 
http://puredata.info/Members/jyg/software/abl_link%7E/0.3/abl_link%7E-v0.3-%28Windows-i386-32%29-externals.zip/view

Is there another thing to do to make it visible within deken ?


Le 23/11/2016 à 23:33, Lucas Cordiviola a écrit :

Cool,

Loads with no problem and when turning on DSP I get output.

Don`t have another app to do tests but I will try these days.

IOhannes mentions doing the Deken package, he's right, there are 
versions for OSX and Linux, we are missing the w32.


If you already have and account on puredata.info just upload the Zip 
(in your section) with a suitable name for a Deken pkg :


abl_link~-v0.1-(Windows-i386-32)-externals.zip

Thats all, it will be available via Deken.

More on this:
https://github.com/pure-data/deken/blob/master/developer/README.md


Salutti,
Lucarda.


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*From:* Jean-Yves Gratius <j...@gumo.fr>
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:19 AM
*To:* Jean-Yves Gratius; pd-list@lists.iem.at; Lucas Cordiviola
*Subject:* Re: [PD] abl_link~ external for windows

Hi

Please check the new binary @ 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/jygsdownloads/files/abl_link%7E4windows/


that may resolve all dll dependancies.

Works on virtual XP and Windows 7 machines.

Let me know,

regards

Le 22 novembre 2016 à 23:17, Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com> 
a écrit :



Hi Jean-Yves

I`m having trouble with [abl_link~ ].
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Re: [PD] abl_link~ external for windows

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi

Please check the new binary @ 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/jygsdownloads/files/abl_link%7E4windows/


that may resolve all dll dependancies.

Works on virtual XP and Windows 7 machines.

Let me know,

regards

Le 22 novembre 2016 à 23:17, Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com> 
a écrit :



Hi Jean-Yves

I`m having trouble with [abl_link~ ].

I downloaded your object and when I first loaded it, it asked me for 
lots of .dlls :


api-ms-win-crt-convert-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-environment-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-filesystem-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-heap-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-locale-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-math-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-multibyte-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-stdio-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-string-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-time-l1-1-0.dll
api-ms-win-crt-utility-l1-1-0.dll
msvcp140.dll
vcruntime140.dll

Once I found all and put them in the same folder as the object I get 
this error:


--

pd.com -Entry Point Not Found

The procedure entry point_crt_atexit could not be located in the 
dynamic library C:\users\lucarda\appdata\roaming\pd\alpd\abl_link.dll,



Can you upload a new package with all the dlls that where used by your 
compiler?


Btw, I highly appreciate and use your work on PDVST~, any news on that?

Salutti,
Lucarda.



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*Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 10:59 PM
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*Subject:* [PD] abl_link~ external for windows
Hi Peter, hi list,

Today I succedeed in compiling abl_link~ for windows.

Documentation will come later.

I couldn't use makefile, I created a code:blocks project with VC++2015
standalone compiler, with some changes into files.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/jygsdownloads/files/abl_link%7E4windows/


Sync tested with puredata metronome patch and ninjaJamm android app,
seems to work.

cheers,

Jean-Yves Gratius

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[PD] abl_link~ for windows ?

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi list, Hi Peter

Any news of abl_link~ external for windows ?

I'd be very happy to test and use it in my band ;)


Many thanks in advance

Jean-Yves


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[PD] pdvst new release : pd as plugin vst

[Jean-Yves Gratius]

Hi,

I have updated pdvst project from Joseph Sarlo and recompiled it (with 
mingw) for pd 0.46.7 and vst 2.4 specification.

You can download a first release (for windows)  here :
https://sourceforge.net/projects/jygsdownloads/files/pdvst/

I tested and debugged it with Reaper and ableton Live 8.0.4.

Any other feedback welcome.

jyg

PS: To Pd-devs :
Like in jsarlo's work, the changes applied to Pd source code are very few.
Some  extra code was added for 2 new dlls (vst-plug and Vst-scheduler) .

I would like to release the source code, but I am not very familiar with 
github and forks creation.

Any hints, where to publish ?



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