Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 0.50-0 released
Hi Miller On Mon, 2019-08-19 at 20:33 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > To Pd-announce: > > Pd version 0.50-0 is available [...] [pdcontrol] is a godsend! I can't count the cases where this could be useful. [slop~] gives tremendous amounts of new possibilities, too.. (think dynamic processors and envelop generators, etc.) Cool! Thank you! Roman signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 0.50-0 released
Well, I can't reproduce this in Wine either (I think Iohannes tried this too but was only able to run 32-bit Pd in wine. Here's how I run Pd in 64 bits under wine: wine pd-0.50-0/bin/wish86.exe pd-0.50-0/tcl/pd-gui.tcl i.e., you have to start the gui first - I can't figure out why you can't just invoke pd.exe from inside wine. But it doesn't seem an urgent problem). Anyhow, I'll have to get on a "real" Pc to test this and see if I can figure out how to fix it. cheers Miller On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 04:36:58PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Em ter, 20 de ago de 2019 ??s 16:11, Miller Puckette escreveu: > > > I think a good policy would eb to fix show-stoppers and any bugs that are > > in > > 0.50 that weren't already in 0.49 - but only to fix non-critical "old" bugs > > for future releases. This is because fixing bugs often causes other, worse > > ones! > > > > Well, in this case, the one thing I mentioned is actually a bug that's in > 0.50 that's not in 0.49 > here it is again: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/732 > > It basically prevents people that use layouts like brazilian portuguese > (and others I suppose) to type "~" characters on windows. Kind of a show > stopper for me :/ (not for me, though, cause I'm using mac and american > layout). > > cheers ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 0.50-0 released
Em ter, 20 de ago de 2019 às 16:11, Miller Puckette escreveu: > I think a good policy would eb to fix show-stoppers and any bugs that are > in > 0.50 that weren't already in 0.49 - but only to fix non-critical "old" bugs > for future releases. This is because fixing bugs often causes other, worse > ones! > Well, in this case, the one thing I mentioned is actually a bug that's in 0.50 that's not in 0.49 here it is again: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/732 It basically prevents people that use layouts like brazilian portuguese (and others I suppose) to type "~" characters on windows. Kind of a show stopper for me :/ (not for me, though, cause I'm using mac and american layout). cheers ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 0.50-0 released
I think a good policy would eb to fix show-stoppers and any bugs that are in 0.50 that weren't already in 0.49 - but only to fix non-critical "old" bugs for future releases. This is because fixing bugs often causes other, worse ones! cheers Miller On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 04:40:54AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Em ter, 20 de ago de 2019 ??s 01:01, Miller Puckette escreveu: > > > To Pd-announce: > > > > Pd version 0.50-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm > > or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data. > > > > Several problems with zooming from 0.50test1 are fixed. There are numerous > > reported bugs still, but no show-stoppers, > > > Hi, this one seems serious to me > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/732 > > > > and I'm way late getting this > > out. So I'm putting off fixing many of them till the next release. > > > Cool, but this would include a potential bug fix updates like 0.50.1, right? > > thanks > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 0.50-0 released
Hi IOhannes, Le 20/08/2019 à 15:24, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : > On 8/20/19 3:11 PM, Jack wrote: >> Hi Miller, >> >> The shortcut (CTRL+K) still doesn't work to "Disconnect Selection" (in >> the menu Edit). >> Maybe I missed something ? >> >> - Selecting 2 connected [t b] => "Disconnect Selection" doesn't work >> - Selecting the thread of 2 connected [t b] => "Disconnect Selection" >> doesn't work > > > this never worked (that is: 0.50 has the same behaviour as 0.49, so > there is no regression) > > Currently the Ctrl+k shortcut should disconnect > all connections of a single selected object. This it does. OK, i got it ! > > Selecting a single patchcord and disconnecting the two objects can be > simply done with the Del key. Sure. > But there is probably little harm done, if Ctrl+k > would *also* handle this case. Yes. > > Selecting two connected objects is a bit more tricky: what would you > expect the shortcut to do? > > something as simple as `[t f] -> [t f]` is *probably* easy: remove > connection between the two objects. (so you get `[t f] [t f]`) Yes, it is what I expected. > But what if you have: > `[f]->[t f]->[t f]->[print]` and you select the two `[t f]` objects. > The current behaviour (when only a single object is selected), would > suggest to remove any connection going in/out of the selection (rather > than inside the selection), so you end up with: > `[f] [t f]->[t f] [print]` > other people might expect `[f]->[t f] [t f]->[print]` and you can also expect : `[f] [t f] [t f] [print]` > > and what if you have a loop? > ~~~ > +>[t f]-+ > | | > +-[t f]<+ > ~~~ But yes, these cases are good examples to prove that the usage is not easy to handle. > > > so the current behaviour is intentional. > unless/until you can come up with a convincingly consistent behaviour, > that is easy to remember :-) Maybe, by using 2 shortcuts : CTRL+K : Connect two objects CTRL+SHIFT+K : Disconnect object ++ Jack > > > gfamrds > IOhannes > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 0.50-0 released
Em ter, 20 de ago de 2019 às 01:01, Miller Puckette escreveu: > To Pd-announce: > > Pd version 0.50-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm > or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data. > > Several problems with zooming from 0.50test1 are fixed. There are numerous > reported bugs still, but no show-stoppers, Hi, this one seems serious to me https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/732 > and I'm way late getting this > out. So I'm putting off fixing many of them till the next release. Cool, but this would include a potential bug fix updates like 0.50.1, right? thanks ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] 0.50-0 released
To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.50-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data. Several problems with zooming from 0.50test1 are fixed. There are numerous reported bugs still, but no show-stoppers, and I'm way late getting this out. So I'm putting off fixing many of them till the next release. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
