[PD] Computing advice for Pd outreach project

2015-07-16 Thread Kerry Hagan
Hi all,

I run Pd Vanilla on a MacBook Pro, so I am at a loss here...

I'm looking for the lowest-range laptop running a flavour of Linux to install 
Pd Vanilla needed for a specific use described below. As I've never purchased 
this, I'm looking for hive-mind experience.

I don't need heavy hitting power, because it will be for outreach groups (kids 
from disadvantaged areas). We won't get into extremely intensive patching. I'm 
happy with built-in stereo out. The more laptops I can afford on a €12,000 
grant (minus speakers, projectors and screens for the actual art installation) 
the better. At this stage, I just need to get quotes for the Irish Arts Council 
funding application. 

What laptop? What Linux distribution? Any gotchas I need to worry about (sound 
card issues, etc.)?

Enquiring minds want to know...

Cheers,

Kerry


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Re: [PD] Computing advice for Pd outreach project

2015-07-16 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

Hi,

On 16/07/2015 08:42, Kerry Hagan wrote:

Hi all,

I run Pd Vanilla on a MacBook Pro, so I am at a loss here...

I'm looking for the lowest-range laptop running a flavour of Linux to install 
Pd Vanilla needed for a specific use described below. As I've never purchased 
this, I'm looking for hive-mind experience.

I don't need heavy hitting power, because it will be for outreach groups (kids 
from disadvantaged areas). We won't get into extremely intensive patching. I'm 
happy with built-in stereo out. The more laptops I can afford on a €12,000 
grant (minus speakers, projectors and screens for the actual art installation) 
the better. At this stage, I just need to get quotes for the Irish Arts Council 
funding application.

What laptop? What Linux distribution? Any gotchas I need to worry about (sound 
card issues, etc.)?


For this scenario I would go for any off-the-shelf consumer laptop.

AFAIK Dell offer rather cheap laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed, and I 
guess Pd easily available on Ubuntu (but have no direct experience nor 
am I affiliated with Dell whatsoever).
For your scenario I'd see machines with Linux preinstalled particularly 
useful as you'd have them working 'out of the box' compared e.g. to 
computers with windows pre-installed (and even secure boot etc.) and 
risk of incompatible hardware.


My two cents.
Lorenzo.


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Re: [PD] Computing advice for Pd outreach project

2015-07-16 Thread Kerry Hagan
Thanks to all who replied off and online. Many options. Great advice.

Best,

Kerry


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Re: [PD] Computing advice for Pd outreach project

2015-07-16 Thread Nicolas Lhommet
2015-07-16 8:42 GMT+02:00 Kerry Hagan klha...@gmail.com:


 ...I'm looking for the lowest-range laptop running a flavour of Linux to
 install Pd Vanilla

 ...The more laptops I can afford (...) the better.


Hi Kerry. It seems like you need the most affordable just enough for Pd
Linux-friendly laptop; that you can purchase right away in volume;
because i guess you would prefer to avoid the second hand market to save
you the burden of disparate equipment out of warranty.

Do they have to be laptops ? Because if they mostly remain fixed on a table
(with external speakers?) and connected to an outlet, a Raspberry Pi would
be just fine with a cheap usb audio interface, and it's easier to look for
a serie of refurbished LCD screens previously owned by some company.

There are tons a sub-300€ laptops these days, but most of them come with an
Intel Bay Trail chipset, Linux support is still experimental but much
better with latest kernel, and finallly efforts have led to a better
handling of those tablet-like hardware implementations

The best candidates in this category could probably be the ACER Aspire ES1
/ E3 / E11  (and V3 too) line. They are just variants of the same hardware
(available in a number memory, storage and touchscreen options, and
different sizes) and some models sold in emergent countries come with
Linpus Linux installed. Most issues have now been adressed (Arch Linux wiki
provides all the techical details) and many report show that recent
versions of the main distributions work about flawlessly on models equiped
with mechanical drive, once EFI boot has been well tuned in bios. This blog
sums it up pretty well :
http://www.zdnet.com/article/installing-opensuse-fedora-and-ubuntu-on-my-new-acer-aspire-e11/

However, entry-level versions are equiped with eMMC flash storage (instead
of  HDD; and internal SATA connector is removed) which was not correctly
supported until a recent fix, so they should be safely avoid (but could
worth a try with newer releases, like recent arch isos).

Sure, these are low-cost laptops with limited cpu, battery life and quality
(some touchpad instability may occur), but there are still many units on
the market in Europe and you could find some deals around 250€ for 11.6
inch versions (have a look at laptopsdirect.ie website).
Cheers,
Nicolas
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