Re: [PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

sigmund~ always used to print a warning in Pd, that annoyed me a lot :)

Em qui., 20 de jul. de 2023 às 09:34, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
escreveu:

> On 7/20/23 07:20, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > 2) hmmm, where is the post for sigmund~ version?
>
> should there be one?
>
> while I see that you (@porres) have updated the version printout to show
> "sigmund~ version 0.08", this particular code-path is only called when
> compiling sigmung~ for Max/MSP.
>
> dmjasr
> IOhannes
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Re: [PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 7/20/23 07:20, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:

2) hmmm, where is the post for sigmund~ version?


should there be one?

while I see that you (@porres) have updated the version printout to show 
"sigmund~ version 0.08", this particular code-path is only called when 
compiling sigmung~ for Max/MSP.


dmjasr
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

[Linux ROUEN Normandie]

Le 20/07/2023 à 07:20, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :

2) hmmm, where is the post for sigmund~ version?

2. Pd / Menu / Help / Objects List
Don't know, only getting what listed in my here below original email.
[sigmund~] is well in the '/usr/lib/puredata/extra/sigmund~' directory 
with its help file updated for Pd version 0.54.


Em qui., 13 de jul. de 2023 às 21:48, Linux ROUEN Normandie 
 escreveu:


Hello,

I just updated Pure Data Vanilla from the repositories of Linux Mint
21.1 Cinnamon 64-bit (Ubuntu 22.04 base)
- from v.0.53.1 (0.53.1+ds-2~ubuntu22.04~ppa1)
- to v.0.54.0 (0.54.0+ds-3~ubuntu22.04~ppa1)
and I've got 3 minor issues.

1. ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 needs at least Pd 0.53-2 (you have 0.54-0,
you're good!)
But...
---
ERREUR NON GÉRÉE (Error not managed) : invalid command name ".popup"
 while executing
"$mymenu add separator"
 (procedure "category_menu::create" line 3)
 invoked from within
"category_menu::create .popup"
 ("uplevel" body line 115)
 invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $tclcode"
ÉCHEC DU CHARGEMENT DE (Loading error of)
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/else-browser-plugin.tcl
---

2. Pd / Menu / Help / Objects List
bonk version 1.5
pd~ version 0.54
fiddle version 1.1 TEST4
pique 0.1 for PD version 23
---
warning -- 'template' (pd-help-intro.pd) is obsolete; replace with
'struct'
---

3. Pd Font size
My setup in v.0.53.1 was 10 (x & y) and now in v.0.54.0 is 12 (x & y).

NOTE: Nice addition of Audio/MIDI tabs in Preferences.

Thanks,
Joseph Gastelais
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Re: [PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2) hmmm, where is the post for sigmund~ version?

Em qui., 13 de jul. de 2023 às 21:48, Linux ROUEN Normandie <
linux.ro...@free.fr> escreveu:

> Hello,
>
> I just updated Pure Data Vanilla from the repositories of Linux Mint
> 21.1 Cinnamon 64-bit (Ubuntu 22.04 base)
> - from v.0.53.1 (0.53.1+ds-2~ubuntu22.04~ppa1)
> - to v.0.54.0 (0.54.0+ds-3~ubuntu22.04~ppa1)
> and I've got 3 minor issues.
>
> 1. ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 needs at least Pd 0.53-2 (you have 0.54-0, you're good!)
> But...
> ---
> ERREUR NON GÉRÉE (Error not managed) : invalid command name ".popup"
>  while executing
> "$mymenu add separator"
>  (procedure "category_menu::create" line 3)
>  invoked from within
> "category_menu::create .popup"
>  ("uplevel" body line 115)
>  invoked from within
> "uplevel #0 $tclcode"
> ÉCHEC DU CHARGEMENT DE (Loading error of)
> /home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/else-browser-plugin.tcl
> ---
>
> 2. Pd / Menu / Help / Objects List
> bonk version 1.5
> pd~ version 0.54
> fiddle version 1.1 TEST4
> pique 0.1 for PD version 23
> ---
> warning -- 'template' (pd-help-intro.pd) is obsolete; replace with 'struct'
> ---
>
> 3. Pd Font size
> My setup in v.0.53.1 was 10 (x & y) and now in v.0.54.0 is 12 (x & y).
>
> NOTE: Nice addition of Audio/MIDI tabs in Preferences.
>
> Thanks,
> Joseph Gastelais
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

That warning issue loading ELSE with 0.54 was known prior to its release
and the yet unreleased current master has this fixed.

this is something you should bring to the else repository anyway, not the
pd dev list



Em dom., 16 de jul. de 2023 às 09:40, IOhannes m zmölnig 
escreveu:

> Am 16. Juli 2023 14:10:50 MESZ schrieb Linux ROUEN Normandie <
> linux.ro...@free.fr>:
> >Duly noted!
>
> On reading I figure that I came across rougher than intended...
>
> My point was really:
> 2. Yes, there's a warning about obsolete objects, but it *is* somewhat
> hard to deprecate something, document its existence, warn about the
> deprecation and at the same time*not* emit a warning in the interactive
> documentation of an instance based prising language such as Pd.
>
>
> 3. (This sounded even gruffier, but what I meant is:) people have
> requested to enlargen the font size a bit, so that's why we changed it.
> However, it is possible to override these new defaults is they don't fit
> your workflow.
>
> Sorry
>
>
> mfg.sfg.jfd
> IOhannes
>
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Re: [PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 16. Juli 2023 14:10:50 MESZ schrieb Linux ROUEN Normandie 
:
>Duly noted!

On reading I figure that I came across rougher than intended...

My point was really:
2. Yes, there's a warning about obsolete objects, but it *is* somewhat hard to 
deprecate something, document its existence, warn about the deprecation and at 
the same time*not* emit a warning in the interactive documentation of an 
instance based prising language such as Pd.


3. (This sounded even gruffier, but what I meant is:) people have requested to 
enlargen the font size a bit, so that's why we changed it. However, it is 
possible to override these new defaults is they don't fit your workflow.

Sorry


mfg.sfg.jfd
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

[Linux ROUEN Normandie]

Duly noted!
Joseph

Le 14/07/2023 à 11:33, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :

Am 14. Juli 2023 02:46:51 MESZ schrieb Linux ROUEN Normandie 
:

2. Pd / Menu / Help / Objects List
bonk version 1.5
pd~ version 0.54
fiddle version 1.1 TEST4
pique 0.1 for PD version 23
---
warning -- 'template' (pd-help-intro.pd) is obsolete; replace with 'struct'
---

So what's the problem?
Do you want
- all objects that are considered "obsolete" to be removed from the "list of all 
objects"?
- all objects that are considered "obsolete" to be completely removed from the 
docs?
- never obsolete an object?


3. Pd Font size
My setup in v.0.53.1 was 10 (x & y) and now in v.0.54.0 is 12 (x & y).

Yes. That's fully intentional.


If you don't like it, you can of course override the default font size to 
whatever you like.


mfg.sfg.jfd
IOhannes
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Re: [PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 14. Juli 2023 02:46:51 MESZ schrieb Linux ROUEN Normandie 
:
>
>2. Pd / Menu / Help / Objects List
>bonk version 1.5
>pd~ version 0.54
>fiddle version 1.1 TEST4
>pique 0.1 for PD version 23
>---
>warning -- 'template' (pd-help-intro.pd) is obsolete; replace with 'struct'
>---

So what's the problem?
Do you want
- all objects that are considered "obsolete" to be removed from the "list of 
all objects"?
- all objects that are considered "obsolete" to be completely removed from the 
docs?
- never obsolete an object?


>
>3. Pd Font size
>My setup in v.0.53.1 was 10 (x & y) and now in v.0.54.0 is 12 (x & y).

Yes. That's fully intentional.



If you don't like it, you can of course override the default font size to 
whatever you like.


mfg.sfg.jfd
IOhannes


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[PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

[Linux ROUEN Normandie]

Hello,

I just updated Pure Data Vanilla from the repositories of Linux Mint 
21.1 Cinnamon 64-bit (Ubuntu 22.04 base)

- from v.0.53.1 (0.53.1+ds-2~ubuntu22.04~ppa1)
- to v.0.54.0 (0.54.0+ds-3~ubuntu22.04~ppa1)
and I've got 3 minor issues.

1. ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 needs at least Pd 0.53-2 (you have 0.54-0, you're good!)
But...
---
ERREUR NON GÉRÉE (Error not managed) : invalid command name ".popup"
    while executing
"$mymenu add separator"
    (procedure "category_menu::create" line 3)
    invoked from within
"category_menu::create .popup"
    ("uplevel" body line 115)
    invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $tclcode"
ÉCHEC DU CHARGEMENT DE (Loading error of)
/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/else-browser-plugin.tcl
---

2. Pd / Menu / Help / Objects List
bonk version 1.5
pd~ version 0.54
fiddle version 1.1 TEST4
pique 0.1 for PD version 23
---
warning -- 'template' (pd-help-intro.pd) is obsolete; replace with 'struct'
---

3. Pd Font size
My setup in v.0.53.1 was 10 (x & y) and now in v.0.54.0 is 12 (x & y).

NOTE: Nice addition of Audio/MIDI tabs in Preferences.

Thanks,
Joseph Gastelais



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