Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-07-14 Thread jdlv

  
  
Hi,
this is crap by design! 
  This is a hack that cannot work reliably, the channels are not
  synchronized between the I2S port and the FPGA, sometimes they
  mix.
  And the card is not always recognized during boot, you must reboot
  until it is detected.
https://github.com/Audio-Injector/Octo/issues/1
https://github.com/Audio-Injector/Octo/issues/8
https://github.com/Audio-Injector/Octo/issues/27
Stay away!
joël





le 13/07/2021 à 21:17, cyrille henry a
  écrit :

Hello,
  
  
  I bought one octo for a project thanks to Thomas experience,
  
  It worked great at home when I plugged it on my mix table, but
  when I install everything in the project final destination, plug
  the sound-card on an amplifier, switch everything on: the sound
  card did not works anymore.
  
  I tried to contact someone at audioinjector, but I hardly have
  answer to my question. IT'S THE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE EVER!
  
  It's been 2 week, my project is on standby, I'm still stuck with a
  broken sound card.
  
  So I don't recommend this soundcard to anyone and I consider
  buying a gigaport instead and throw this crap away.
  
  
  unless someone have a suggestion to a cheaper 8 output soundcard
  for a RPI 4.
  
  
  Cheers
  
  C
  
   
  
  
  Le 19/03/2021 à 21:12, Thomas Grill a écrit :
  
  Yes, i have one of those and it works well
on the Rpi, also with Pd of course.

best, Thomas


Am 18.03.2021 um 10:24 schrieb Pierre
  Massat :
  
  
  Thank you all for your replies. I didn't even know surround
  soundcards
  
  existed. This looks promising given my budget.
  
  In the meantime I found this :
  
https://shop.audioinjector.net/detail/Sound_Cards/Octo+RCA+sound+card
  
  Anybody has experience using it with Pd ?
  
  
  Cheers,
  
  
  Pierre.
  
  
  2021-03-17 17:53 UTC+01:00, Lorenzo Sutton
  :
  
  On 17/03/21 07:42, Pierre Massat
wrote:

Dear all,
  
  
  I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
  
  I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files
  in a loop,
  
  each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By
  "several" I
  
  mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem
  making a Pd
  
  patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I
  could use. I
  
  have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on
  a Raspberry
  
  Pi (or similar single-board computer).
  
  
  Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels
  from a single
  
  (a couple of) RPi ?
  


How many are 'many' :-)


If it's <= 8 channels and you don't care (too much) about
latency you

could check out a cheap '7.1' USB card (these can cost less
than 30 euro

online) and if it exposes 8 writable inputs via jack that
could work.

The physical outputs of these are, of course, unbalanced and
in couples

so you'd need to do some cable splitting and then maybe have
a mixer

nearby...

I never did this on the RPi but I _did_ something similar
with a cheap

5.1 usb sound blaster hooked to a laptop in the past.

I'm assuming, of course that each file would 'consume' just
1 channel...


YMMV.


If you want more than 8 output channels it will be hard to
stay 'cheap'

(which of course depends on 'how much' is your limited
budget), and then

- of course - you need to check linux compatibility (i.e. if
they are

'class compliant'...)


My two cents,


Lorenzo.




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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-07-13 Thread cyrille henry

Hello,

I bought one octo for a project thanks to Thomas experience,
It worked great at home when I plugged it on my mix table, but when I install 
everything in the project final destination, plug the sound-card on an 
amplifier, switch everything on: the sound card did not works anymore.
I tried to contact someone at audioinjector, but I hardly have answer to my 
question. IT'S THE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE EVER!
It's been 2 week, my project is on standby, I'm still stuck with a broken sound 
card.
So I don't recommend this soundcard to anyone and I consider buying a gigaport 
instead and throw this crap away.

unless someone have a suggestion to a cheaper 8 output soundcard for a RPI 4.

Cheers
C
 


Le 19/03/2021 à 21:12, Thomas Grill a écrit :

Yes, i have one of those and it works well on the Rpi, also with Pd of course.
best, Thomas


Am 18.03.2021 um 10:24 schrieb Pierre Massat :

Thank you all for your replies. I didn't even know surround soundcards
existed. This looks promising given my budget.
In the meantime I found this :
https://shop.audioinjector.net/detail/Sound_Cards/Octo+RCA+sound+card
Anybody has experience using it with Pd ?

Cheers,

Pierre.

2021-03-17 17:53 UTC+01:00, Lorenzo Sutton :

On 17/03/21 07:42, Pierre Massat wrote:

Dear all,

I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
Pi (or similar single-board computer).

Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
(a couple of) RPi ?


How many are 'many' :-)

If it's <= 8 channels and you don't care (too much) about latency you
could check out a cheap '7.1' USB card (these can cost less than 30 euro
online) and if it exposes 8 writable inputs via jack that could work.
The physical outputs of these are, of course, unbalanced and in couples
so you'd need to do some cable splitting and then maybe have a mixer
nearby...
I never did this on the RPi but I _did_ something similar with a cheap
5.1 usb sound blaster hooked to a laptop in the past.
I'm assuming, of course that each file would 'consume' just 1 channel...

YMMV.

If you want more than 8 output channels it will be hard to stay 'cheap'
(which of course depends on 'how much' is your limited budget), and then
- of course - you need to check linux compatibility (i.e. if they are
'class compliant'...)

My two cents,

Lorenzo.



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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-21 Thread Pierre Massat
Thank you all for these great answers.

Cheers,

Pierre.

2021-03-19 21:12 UTC+01:00, Thomas Grill :
> Yes, i have one of those and it works well on the Rpi, also with Pd of
> course.
> best, Thomas
>
>> Am 18.03.2021 um 10:24 schrieb Pierre Massat :
>>
>> Thank you all for your replies. I didn't even know surround soundcards
>> existed. This looks promising given my budget.
>> In the meantime I found this :
>> https://shop.audioinjector.net/detail/Sound_Cards/Octo+RCA+sound+card
>> Anybody has experience using it with Pd ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Pierre.
>>
>> 2021-03-17 17:53 UTC+01:00, Lorenzo Sutton :
>>> On 17/03/21 07:42, Pierre Massat wrote:
 Dear all,

 I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
 I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
 each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
 mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
 patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
 have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
 Pi (or similar single-board computer).

 Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
 (a couple of) RPi ?
>>>
>>> How many are 'many' :-)
>>>
>>> If it's <= 8 channels and you don't care (too much) about latency you
>>> could check out a cheap '7.1' USB card (these can cost less than 30 euro
>>> online) and if it exposes 8 writable inputs via jack that could work.
>>> The physical outputs of these are, of course, unbalanced and in couples
>>> so you'd need to do some cable splitting and then maybe have a mixer
>>> nearby...
>>> I never did this on the RPi but I _did_ something similar with a cheap
>>> 5.1 usb sound blaster hooked to a laptop in the past.
>>> I'm assuming, of course that each file would 'consume' just 1 channel...
>>>
>>> YMMV.
>>>
>>> If you want more than 8 output channels it will be hard to stay 'cheap'
>>> (which of course depends on 'how much' is your limited budget), and then
>>> - of course - you need to check linux compatibility (i.e. if they are
>>> 'class compliant'...)
>>>
>>> My two cents,
>>>
>>> Lorenzo.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-19 Thread Thomas Grill
Yes, i have one of those and it works well on the Rpi, also with Pd of course.
best, Thomas

> Am 18.03.2021 um 10:24 schrieb Pierre Massat :
> 
> Thank you all for your replies. I didn't even know surround soundcards
> existed. This looks promising given my budget.
> In the meantime I found this :
> https://shop.audioinjector.net/detail/Sound_Cards/Octo+RCA+sound+card
> Anybody has experience using it with Pd ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Pierre.
> 
> 2021-03-17 17:53 UTC+01:00, Lorenzo Sutton :
>> On 17/03/21 07:42, Pierre Massat wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
>>> I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
>>> each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
>>> mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
>>> patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
>>> have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
>>> Pi (or similar single-board computer).
>>> 
>>> Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
>>> (a couple of) RPi ?
>> 
>> How many are 'many' :-)
>> 
>> If it's <= 8 channels and you don't care (too much) about latency you
>> could check out a cheap '7.1' USB card (these can cost less than 30 euro
>> online) and if it exposes 8 writable inputs via jack that could work.
>> The physical outputs of these are, of course, unbalanced and in couples
>> so you'd need to do some cable splitting and then maybe have a mixer
>> nearby...
>> I never did this on the RPi but I _did_ something similar with a cheap
>> 5.1 usb sound blaster hooked to a laptop in the past.
>> I'm assuming, of course that each file would 'consume' just 1 channel...
>> 
>> YMMV.
>> 
>> If you want more than 8 output channels it will be hard to stay 'cheap'
>> (which of course depends on 'how much' is your limited budget), and then
>> - of course - you need to check linux compatibility (i.e. if they are
>> 'class compliant'...)
>> 
>> My two cents,
>> 
>> Lorenzo.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-19 Thread wolfgang spahn

no really, but their other (stereo) card works great!
https://dernulleffekt.de/doku.php?id=puredata:main 



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Am 18.03.21 um 10:24 schrieb Pierre Massat:

Thank you all for your replies. I didn't even know surround soundcards
existed. This looks promising given my budget.
In the meantime I found this :
https://shop.audioinjector.net/detail/Sound_Cards/Octo+RCA+sound+card
Anybody has experience using it with Pd ?

Cheers,

Pierre.

2021-03-17 17:53 UTC+01:00, Lorenzo Sutton :

On 17/03/21 07:42, Pierre Massat wrote:

Dear all,

I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
Pi (or similar single-board computer).

Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
(a couple of) RPi ?

How many are 'many' :-)

If it's <= 8 channels and you don't care (too much) about latency you
could check out a cheap '7.1' USB card (these can cost less than 30 euro
online) and if it exposes 8 writable inputs via jack that could work.
The physical outputs of these are, of course, unbalanced and in couples
so you'd need to do some cable splitting and then maybe have a mixer
nearby...
I never did this on the RPi but I _did_ something similar with a cheap
5.1 usb sound blaster hooked to a laptop in the past.
I'm assuming, of course that each file would 'consume' just 1 channel...

YMMV.

If you want more than 8 output channels it will be hard to stay 'cheap'
(which of course depends on 'how much' is your limited budget), and then
- of course - you need to check linux compatibility (i.e. if they are
'class compliant'...)

My two cents,

Lorenzo.



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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-18 Thread Pierre Massat
Thank you all for your replies. I didn't even know surround soundcards
existed. This looks promising given my budget.
In the meantime I found this :
https://shop.audioinjector.net/detail/Sound_Cards/Octo+RCA+sound+card
Anybody has experience using it with Pd ?

Cheers,

Pierre.

2021-03-17 17:53 UTC+01:00, Lorenzo Sutton :
> On 17/03/21 07:42, Pierre Massat wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
>> I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
>> each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
>> mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
>> patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
>> have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
>> Pi (or similar single-board computer).
>>
>> Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
>> (a couple of) RPi ?
>
> How many are 'many' :-)
>
> If it's <= 8 channels and you don't care (too much) about latency you
> could check out a cheap '7.1' USB card (these can cost less than 30 euro
> online) and if it exposes 8 writable inputs via jack that could work.
> The physical outputs of these are, of course, unbalanced and in couples
> so you'd need to do some cable splitting and then maybe have a mixer
> nearby...
> I never did this on the RPi but I _did_ something similar with a cheap
> 5.1 usb sound blaster hooked to a laptop in the past.
> I'm assuming, of course that each file would 'consume' just 1 channel...
>
> YMMV.
>
> If you want more than 8 output channels it will be hard to stay 'cheap'
> (which of course depends on 'how much' is your limited budget), and then
> - of course - you need to check linux compatibility (i.e. if they are
> 'class compliant'...)
>
> My two cents,
>
> Lorenzo.
>
>
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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-17 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

On 17/03/21 07:42, Pierre Massat wrote:

Dear all,

I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
Pi (or similar single-board computer).

Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
(a couple of) RPi ?


How many are 'many' :-)

If it's <= 8 channels and you don't care (too much) about latency you 
could check out a cheap '7.1' USB card (these can cost less than 30 euro 
online) and if it exposes 8 writable inputs via jack that could work. 
The physical outputs of these are, of course, unbalanced and in couples 
so you'd need to do some cable splitting and then maybe have a mixer 
nearby...
I never did this on the RPi but I _did_ something similar with a cheap 
5.1 usb sound blaster hooked to a laptop in the past.

I'm assuming, of course that each file would 'consume' just 1 channel...

YMMV.

If you want more than 8 output channels it will be hard to stay 'cheap' 
(which of course depends on 'how much' is your limited budget), and then 
- of course - you need to check linux compatibility (i.e. if they are 
'class compliant'...)


My two cents,

Lorenzo.



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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-17 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
OTOH in this particular application you migth be able to run several
Pd processes, one for each audio device, and sync them using
netsend/netreceive.  (Me, I use the startech "7.1" interface that costs about
$25; the "1" is full bandwidth so it gives you 8 independent channels out.
But I haven't tried two of them on the same pi; I just used multiple pis
when I wanted to do a multichannel installation).

cheers
M

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 01:22:07PM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> On 3/17/21 9:34 AM, Antoine Villeret wrote:
> > you could even
> > think plugin 2 of them on the same board.
> 
> usually you do not want to do this.
> 
> you would have to synchronize the clocks of the two devices (unless you into
> glitch).
> devices that allow simple synchronisation would use something like
> wordclock. but that is typically in a different price segment)
> 
> gfdsmrtf
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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig

On 3/17/21 9:34 AM, Antoine Villeret wrote:

you could even
think plugin 2 of them on the same board.


usually you do not want to do this.

you would have to synchronize the clocks of the two devices (unless you 
into glitch).
devices that allow simple synchronisation would use something like 
wordclock. but that is typically in a different price segment)


gfdsmrtf
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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-17 Thread Giulio Moro via Pd-list

disclaimer: I work for this company

We sell the CTAG-FACE (4in/8out) and CTAG-BEAST (8in/16out). These work with 
BeagleBone Black via ALSA or Bela's ultra-low-latency environment. No fiddly 
USB ports, relatively compact, super reliable, works out of the box.

https://shop.bela.io/collections/ctag-multi-channel-audio-system



Antoine Villeret wrote on 17/03/2021 08:34:

Hi,

Pd under works with any sound card supported by Linux.
One good and cheap option is the ESI Gigaport HD+ which provides 8 analog 
output for less than 200€.
I successfully test this card on Raspberry Pi few years ago.
Nowadays with RPi4 and its upgraded USB and ethernet chipset you could even 
think plugin 2 of them on the same board.

There might be also some other option.

Cheers

A

Le mer. 17 mars 2021 à 07:53, Pierre Massat mailto:pimas...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Dear all,

I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
Pi (or similar single-board computer).

Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
(a couple of) RPi ?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-17 Thread Alexandros
Afaik Focusrite Scarlett audio interfaces usually work fine with Linux. 
Personally I have used the 2i2 gen 1, solo get 2 and 6i6 gen 2, all with 
my laptop running Ubuntu Studio and a Raspberry Pi.. I did try once a 
18i20 with my laptop but couldn't get it to work (though I tried for a 
few minutes only as I was in the store selling the device). If you can 
get a 18i20 to work, you could have your system work I guess. Though it 
should cost a few hundred dollars, euros, or whatever. Still these are 
quite cheap priced devices.


On 17/3/21 8:42 π.μ., Pierre Massat wrote:

Dear all,

I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
Pi (or similar single-board computer).

Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
(a couple of) RPi ?

Thanks in advance,

Pierre.



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Re: [PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-17 Thread Antoine Villeret
Hi,

Pd under works with any sound card supported by Linux.
One good and cheap option is the ESI Gigaport HD+ which provides 8 analog
output for less than 200€.
I successfully test this card on Raspberry Pi few years ago.
Nowadays with RPi4 and its upgraded USB and ethernet chipset you could even
think plugin 2 of them on the same board.

There might be also some other option.

Cheers

A

Le mer. 17 mars 2021 à 07:53, Pierre Massat  a écrit :

> Dear all,
>
> I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
> I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
> each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
> mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
> patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
> have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
> Pi (or similar single-board computer).
>
> Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
> (a couple of) RPi ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Pierre.
>
>
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[PD] Multiple audio outputs on a single-board computer ?

2021-03-17 Thread Pierre Massat
Dear all,

I haven't posted anything on this list in years.
I'm trying to build a system to play several sound files in a loop,
each around 2 minutes in length, all at the same time. By "several" I
mean 10 to 15 different files. While I'd have no problem making a Pd
patch to achieve this, I have no idea what hardware I could use. I
have a limited budget, and I was planning on running Pd on a Raspberry
Pi (or similar single-board computer).

Is there any cheap way of outputing than many channels from a single
(a couple of) RPi ?

Thanks in advance,

Pierre.



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