Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 225, Issue 2

2023-12-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig

On 12/4/23 13:00, Thomas Mayer wrote:

Hello,

On 04.12.23 10:55, Yann Seznec wrote:> As a side note, perhaps someone 
more knowledgeable than me could update
the version of Pd that is currently accessible from apt-get? I didn't 
mind compiling from source but it is pretty handy to be able to just 
do apt-get when setting up a new Pi.


i'm not sure i understand the question here.

you can always get the version of Pd by just running 'pd -version' (if 
you still have the "puredata-core" package installed, run '/usr/bin/pd 
-version' to not accidentally run your self-compiled one.


in any case, which version of Pd is shipped with Raspberry Pi OS depends 
of course on the version of Raspberry Pi OS itself.


the latest and greatest Raspberry Pi OS is based on Debian/bookworm, and 
therefore comes with Pd-0.53-1 (see 
)





I am unsure, if Raspberry Pi OS is based on Debian or is actually using 
the Debian sources


traditionally they (Raspberry Pi OS) provide their own binaries. iirc 
this is because they are really targetting armv6 (without FPU), as found 
in the Pi Zero, which is not supported by Debian's armhf flavour (which 
requires an FPU). (or maybe it's some other CPU feature, not the FPU; in 
any case: something along these lines).


i'm not sure about the situation for RPiOS/64bit.
as i don't have an RPi/64bit booted, i've checked 
, which seems to only come with 
a small subset of packages, so it's possible that they indeed switched 
to the official Debian repository)


.


You can look that up in /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/


If it contains a line like

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free


typically you would use http://deb.debian.org/debian/ instead of a 
country-specific URL (unless you have specific reasons not to, like an 
aversion against CDNs like CloudFlare or Fastly; or a specific mirror is 
really close to you).



fnsae
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 225, Issue 2

2023-12-04 Thread Thomas Mayer

Hello,

On 04.12.23 10:55, Yann Seznec wrote:> As a side note, perhaps someone 
more knowledgeable than me could update
the version of Pd that is currently accessible from apt-get? I didn't 
mind compiling from source but it is pretty handy to be able to just do 
apt-get when setting up a new Pi.


I am unsure, if Raspberry Pi OS is based on Debian or is actually using 
the Debian sources.


You can look that up in /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/


If it contains a line like

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free

or

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free

then it is using Debian sources.
If that is the case, then add a similar line to get the packages for the 
next version:


deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

That will enable the packages in Debian testing, but will overwrite a 
lot of packages with an update.


To enable testing only for Puredata, have a look at apt-pinning:
https://wiki.debian.org/AptConfiguration

Hth,
Thomas
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