Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Dan Wilcox]

My suggested naming:

- compiled for macOS 10.10+

- 32-bit ("i386") Macintosh version for OS X 10.7 or later; can load old, 
32-bit external libraries

- 64-bit Macintosh version for OS X 10.7 or later

To be (overly) pedantic :) the naming is officially "Mac OS X" from 10.0 - 
10.7, "OS X" from 10.8 - 10.11, then macOS 10.12 to now, as least on Wikipedia. 
That being said (written?) I find it confusing that OS "X" already stands for 
OS 10 since it follows OS 9.

Anyway, I agree with Alex that "macos7" is a misnomer and it would be better as 
"macosx107" or something similar as we are all used to "10.7." I can see why 
Apple finally bit the bullet and went to macOS 11 as it can get out of this X 
cycle.

Note: If/when we have builds linked to newer JACK builds, they will require 
macOS 10.12+.

> On Dec 9, 2021, at 6:34 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
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> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 20:25:50 -0800
> From: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>>
> To: Alexandre Torres Porres mailto:por...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
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> 
> So I guess they should be labeled "Macintosh OS 10.10 or later" and
> "Macintosh OS 10.7-9".  I'm not sure if "macos7" works on 10.10 or not,
> but I don't think it matters much :)
> 
> M


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Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

I forgot I had Big Sur (macOS 11) on a separate partition. I can then
confirm that macos7 loads in Big Sur just fine, but you have to insist as
on the first time the OS tells you have to throw it in the trash or
something like that. On the 2nd attempt with a right click you can beg for
it to open, then it does.

I then tested the other binary (10+) and hoped it'd open at first, right
away, but it didn't! I guess the warning was different, but I had to
equally persist on a 2nd attempt.

I'm now curious about the difference between these two.

cheers

Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 02:39, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> For the unaware: 10.15 (catalina) is the first to only load 64 bit
> applications, and since then we've had macOS 11 (Big Sur) and
> quite recently and a bit over a month macOS 12 (Monterey).
>
> Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 02:34, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 01:25, Miller Puckette 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> So I guess they should be labeled "Macintosh OS 10.10 or later" and
>>> "Macintosh OS 10.7-9".  I'm not sure if "macos7" works on 10.10 or not,
>>> but I don't think it matters much :)
>>>
>>
>> I don't think it matters either as we should promote this just for the
>> OSes that really depend on it.
>>
>> But this download is working just fine, so it seems, here on macOS
>> 10.14.6 (the last one that can run 32 bit software, like Pd-extended, and
>> yeah, I'm still sticking with it just so I can look back on extended every
>> now and then)
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>>
>>> M
>>> On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 05:30:22PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>> > Em ter., 7 de dez. de 2021 às 22:51, Miller Puckette 
>>> > escreveu:
>>> >
>>> > > So I guess the OS11 one should say "10 or later" and the "9" version
>>> is
>>> > > the same as the
>>> > > "7" version (so I'll just keep the "7" link around).
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > "9" is too old and unsupported, "7" is even older. I see the confusion
>>> now,
>>> > we actually mean "10.7", "10.9", "10.10" and so on.
>>> >
>>> > It's all clearer for 0.51-4, where we have
>>> >
>>> > - compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.9 (?) or later
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> > and
>>> >
>>> > -- Compiled versions for older systems -
>>> > - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > We just need to sort now what are the actual current minimal
>>> requirements.
>>> > If it's 10.7 and 10.10
>>> >
>>> > And it should be noted that the one compiled for older systems has a
>>> > maximum requirement (I'm assuming it won't run on macOS 11 or later).
>>> >
>>> > cheers
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > thanks
>>> > > M
>>> > >
>>> > > On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 02:19:39PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > and since i'm talking aboute editing the site, you may wanna have "
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__puredata.info_&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=vnPheJM8uLP7Fxyee5etc6rEprXDY7_nAxzpfIsJTDI&e=
>>> > > " as an active link on your site ;)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 13:17, Alexandre Torres Porres <
>>> > > > por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > cool, now your emails are coming through :)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > mac downloads on your site are confusing
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > there are 4 downloads
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > -
>>> compiled for
>>> > > > > Macintosh OSX 9 or 10
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > - 32-bit ("i386") Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later; can
>>> load
>>> > > old,
>>> > > > > 32-bit external libraries
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I have 10.14.16 and could download and use the one compiled for
>>> OS 11
>>> > > just
>>> > > > > fine.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > The one that says it's compiled for "OSX 9" doesn't seem right -
>>> OSX9
>>> > > is
>>> > > > > long gone and it'd have to be compiled just for it. This one also
>>> > > > > uncompresses to a confusing Pd-0.52-0test3-*macosx7* file. And
>>> the one
>>> > > > > compiled to "64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later" also
>>> > > > > uncompresses to this same file name.  Ayway, I can use this one
>>> too as
>>> > > well
>>> > > > > as the 64 bit for OSX 10.6 or later. So do we really need these
>>> 3?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > cheers
>>> > >

Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

For the unaware: 10.15 (catalina) is the first to only load 64 bit
applications, and since then we've had macOS 11 (Big Sur) and
quite recently and a bit over a month macOS 12 (Monterey).

Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 02:34, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 01:25, Miller Puckette 
> escreveu:
>
>> So I guess they should be labeled "Macintosh OS 10.10 or later" and
>> "Macintosh OS 10.7-9".  I'm not sure if "macos7" works on 10.10 or not,
>> but I don't think it matters much :)
>>
>
> I don't think it matters either as we should promote this just for the
> OSes that really depend on it.
>
> But this download is working just fine, so it seems, here on macOS 10.14.6
> (the last one that can run 32 bit software, like Pd-extended, and yeah, I'm
> still sticking with it just so I can look back on extended every now and
> then)
>
> cheers
>
>
>
>> M
>> On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 05:30:22PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>> > Em ter., 7 de dez. de 2021 às 22:51, Miller Puckette 
>> > escreveu:
>> >
>> > > So I guess the OS11 one should say "10 or later" and the "9" version
>> is
>> > > the same as the
>> > > "7" version (so I'll just keep the "7" link around).
>> > >
>> >
>> > "9" is too old and unsupported, "7" is even older. I see the confusion
>> now,
>> > we actually mean "10.7", "10.9", "10.10" and so on.
>> >
>> > It's all clearer for 0.51-4, where we have
>> >
>> > - compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.9 (?) or later
>> > 
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> > -- Compiled versions for older systems -
>> > - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
>> > 
>> >
>> >
>> > We just need to sort now what are the actual current minimal
>> requirements.
>> > If it's 10.7 and 10.10
>> >
>> > And it should be noted that the one compiled for older systems has a
>> > maximum requirement (I'm assuming it won't run on macOS 11 or later).
>> >
>> > cheers
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > thanks
>> > > M
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 02:19:39PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres
>> wrote:
>> > > > and since i'm talking aboute editing the site, you may wanna have "
>> > > >
>> > >
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__puredata.info_&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=vnPheJM8uLP7Fxyee5etc6rEprXDY7_nAxzpfIsJTDI&e=
>> > > " as an active link on your site ;)
>> > > >
>> > > > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 13:17, Alexandre Torres Porres <
>> > > > por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>> > > >
>> > > > > cool, now your emails are coming through :)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > mac downloads on your site are confusing
>> > > > >
>> > > > > there are 4 downloads
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -
>> compiled for
>> > > > > Macintosh OSX 9 or 10
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - 32-bit ("i386") Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later; can
>> load
>> > > old,
>> > > > > 32-bit external libraries
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have 10.14.16 and could download and use the one compiled for
>> OS 11
>> > > just
>> > > > > fine.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The one that says it's compiled for "OSX 9" doesn't seem right -
>> OSX9
>> > > is
>> > > > > long gone and it'd have to be compiled just for it. This one also
>> > > > > uncompresses to a confusing Pd-0.52-0test3-*macosx7* file. And
>> the one
>> > > > > compiled to "64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later" also
>> > > > > uncompresses to this same file name.  Ayway, I can use this one
>> too as
>> > > well
>> > > > > as the 64 bit for OSX 10.6 or later. So do we really need these 3?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > cheers
>> > > > > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 03:44, Miller Puckette via
>> Pd-announce <
>> > > > > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> To Pd announce:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Pd 0.52-0 test3 is out on the usual site:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> or (source only) on github:
>> > >
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_pure-2Ddata&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=gIe7LEUDkO4ku3G7Bjp_zUxkM0LBYDnOwrd9ZtbJrgo&e=
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> cheers
>> > > > >> Miller
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> ___
>> > > > >> Pd-annou

Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em qui., 9 de dez. de 2021 às 01:25, Miller Puckette 
escreveu:

> So I guess they should be labeled "Macintosh OS 10.10 or later" and
> "Macintosh OS 10.7-9".  I'm not sure if "macos7" works on 10.10 or not,
> but I don't think it matters much :)
>

I don't think it matters either as we should promote this just for the OSes
that really depend on it.

But this download is working just fine, so it seems, here on macOS 10.14.6
(the last one that can run 32 bit software, like Pd-extended, and yeah, I'm
still sticking with it just so I can look back on extended every now and
then)

cheers



> M
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 05:30:22PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > Em ter., 7 de dez. de 2021 às 22:51, Miller Puckette 
> > escreveu:
> >
> > > So I guess the OS11 one should say "10 or later" and the "9" version is
> > > the same as the
> > > "7" version (so I'll just keep the "7" link around).
> > >
> >
> > "9" is too old and unsupported, "7" is even older. I see the confusion
> now,
> > we actually mean "10.7", "10.9", "10.10" and so on.
> >
> > It's all clearer for 0.51-4, where we have
> >
> > - compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.9 (?) or later
> > 
> >
> > and
> >
> > -- Compiled versions for older systems -
> > - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
> > 
> >
> >
> > We just need to sort now what are the actual current minimal
> requirements.
> > If it's 10.7 and 10.10
> >
> > And it should be noted that the one compiled for older systems has a
> > maximum requirement (I'm assuming it won't run on macOS 11 or later).
> >
> > cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > M
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 02:19:39PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres
> wrote:
> > > > and since i'm talking aboute editing the site, you may wanna have "
> > > >
> > >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__puredata.info_&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=vnPheJM8uLP7Fxyee5etc6rEprXDY7_nAxzpfIsJTDI&e=
> > > " as an active link on your site ;)
> > > >
> > > > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 13:17, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> > > > por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> > > >
> > > > > cool, now your emails are coming through :)
> > > > >
> > > > > mac downloads on your site are confusing
> > > > >
> > > > > there are 4 downloads
> > > > >
> > > > > - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > - compiled
> for
> > > > > Macintosh OSX 9 or 10
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > - 32-bit ("i386") Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later; can load
> > > old,
> > > > > 32-bit external libraries
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > I have 10.14.16 and could download and use the one compiled for OS
> 11
> > > just
> > > > > fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > The one that says it's compiled for "OSX 9" doesn't seem right -
> OSX9
> > > is
> > > > > long gone and it'd have to be compiled just for it. This one also
> > > > > uncompresses to a confusing Pd-0.52-0test3-*macosx7* file. And the
> one
> > > > > compiled to "64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later" also
> > > > > uncompresses to this same file name.  Ayway, I can use this one
> too as
> > > well
> > > > > as the 64 bit for OSX 10.6 or later. So do we really need these 3?
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 03:44, Miller Puckette via
> Pd-announce <
> > > > > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
> > > > >
> > > > >> To Pd announce:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Pd 0.52-0 test3 is out on the usual site:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> > > > >>
> > > > >> or (source only) on github:
> > >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_pure-2Ddata&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=gIe7LEUDkO4ku3G7Bjp_zUxkM0LBYDnOwrd9ZtbJrgo&e=
> > > > >>
> > > > >> cheers
> > > > >> Miller
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ___
> > > > >> Pd-announce mailing list
> > > > >> pd-annou...@lists.iem.at
> > > > >>
> > >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.puredata.info_listinfo_pd-2Dannounce&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=x8eWNn28_00VKWG4MNwNvZOYgaK67g8N9rOumP5Ws4Y&e=
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ___
> > > > >> Pd-li

Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Miller Puckette via Pd-list]

So I guess they should be labeled "Macintosh OS 10.10 or later" and
"Macintosh OS 10.7-9".  I'm not sure if "macos7" works on 10.10 or not,
but I don't think it matters much :)

M
On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 05:30:22PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Em ter., 7 de dez. de 2021 às 22:51, Miller Puckette 
> escreveu:
> 
> > So I guess the OS11 one should say "10 or later" and the "9" version is
> > the same as the
> > "7" version (so I'll just keep the "7" link around).
> >
> 
> "9" is too old and unsupported, "7" is even older. I see the confusion now,
> we actually mean "10.7", "10.9", "10.10" and so on.
> 
> It's all clearer for 0.51-4, where we have
> 
> - compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.9 (?) or later
> 
> 
> and
> 
> -- Compiled versions for older systems -
> - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
> 
> 
> 
> We just need to sort now what are the actual current minimal requirements.
> If it's 10.7 and 10.10
> 
> And it should be noted that the one compiled for older systems has a
> maximum requirement (I'm assuming it won't run on macOS 11 or later).
> 
> cheers
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > thanks
> > M
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 02:19:39PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > > and since i'm talking aboute editing the site, you may wanna have "
> > >
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__puredata.info_&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=vnPheJM8uLP7Fxyee5etc6rEprXDY7_nAxzpfIsJTDI&e=
> > " as an active link on your site ;)
> > >
> > > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 13:17, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> > > por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> > >
> > > > cool, now your emails are coming through :)
> > > >
> > > > mac downloads on your site are confusing
> > > >
> > > > there are 4 downloads
> > > >
> > > > - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > - compiled for
> > > > Macintosh OSX 9 or 10
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > - 32-bit ("i386") Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later; can load
> > old,
> > > > 32-bit external libraries
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > I have 10.14.16 and could download and use the one compiled for OS 11
> > just
> > > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > The one that says it's compiled for "OSX 9" doesn't seem right - OSX9
> > is
> > > > long gone and it'd have to be compiled just for it. This one also
> > > > uncompresses to a confusing Pd-0.52-0test3-*macosx7* file. And the one
> > > > compiled to "64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later" also
> > > > uncompresses to this same file name.  Ayway, I can use this one too as
> > well
> > > > as the 64 bit for OSX 10.6 or later. So do we really need these 3?
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 03:44, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <
> > > > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
> > > >
> > > >> To Pd announce:
> > > >>
> > > >> Pd 0.52-0 test3 is out on the usual site:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> > > >>
> > > >> or (source only) on github:
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_pure-2Ddata&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=gIe7LEUDkO4ku3G7Bjp_zUxkM0LBYDnOwrd9ZtbJrgo&e=
> > > >>
> > > >> cheers
> > > >> Miller
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ___
> > > >> Pd-announce mailing list
> > > >> pd-annou...@lists.iem.at
> > > >>
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Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em ter., 7 de dez. de 2021 às 22:51, Miller Puckette 
escreveu:

> So I guess the OS11 one should say "10 or later" and the "9" version is
> the same as the
> "7" version (so I'll just keep the "7" link around).
>

"9" is too old and unsupported, "7" is even older. I see the confusion now,
we actually mean "10.7", "10.9", "10.10" and so on.

It's all clearer for 0.51-4, where we have

- compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.9 (?) or later


and

-- Compiled versions for older systems -
- 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later



We just need to sort now what are the actual current minimal requirements.
If it's 10.7 and 10.10

And it should be noted that the one compiled for older systems has a
maximum requirement (I'm assuming it won't run on macOS 11 or later).

cheers



>
> thanks
> M
>
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 02:19:39PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > and since i'm talking aboute editing the site, you may wanna have "
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__puredata.info_&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=vnPheJM8uLP7Fxyee5etc6rEprXDY7_nAxzpfIsJTDI&e=
> " as an active link on your site ;)
> >
> > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 13:17, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> > por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> >
> > > cool, now your emails are coming through :)
> > >
> > > mac downloads on your site are confusing
> > >
> > > there are 4 downloads
> > >
> > > - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
> > > 
> > >
> > > - compiled for
> > > Macintosh OSX 9 or 10
> > > 
> > >
> > > - 32-bit ("i386") Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later; can load
> old,
> > > 32-bit external libraries
> > > 
> > >
> > > - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
> > > 
> > >
> > > I have 10.14.16 and could download and use the one compiled for OS 11
> just
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > The one that says it's compiled for "OSX 9" doesn't seem right - OSX9
> is
> > > long gone and it'd have to be compiled just for it. This one also
> > > uncompresses to a confusing Pd-0.52-0test3-*macosx7* file. And the one
> > > compiled to "64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later" also
> > > uncompresses to this same file name.  Ayway, I can use this one too as
> well
> > > as the 64 bit for OSX 10.6 or later. So do we really need these 3?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 03:44, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <
> > > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
> > >
> > >> To Pd announce:
> > >>
> > >> Pd 0.52-0 test3 is out on the usual site:
> > >>
> > >> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> > >>
> > >> or (source only) on github:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_pure-2Ddata&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=gIe7LEUDkO4ku3G7Bjp_zUxkM0LBYDnOwrd9ZtbJrgo&e=
> > >>
> > >> cheers
> > >> Miller
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Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

Am 8. Dezember 2021 02:43:29 MEZ schrieb Miller Puckette via Pd-list 
:
>Nope... I think it's a zip file that unpacks to "test3".
>
>but now I don't know which "compile" to use, "Darwin" or "macOS"
>(both appear on https://git.iem.at/pd/pure-data/-/pipelines ).  The "Darwin"
>is a zip file containing the raw app, and the "macOS" one is a "disk image".
>I'd prefer to distribute the "Darwin" version if it works on all the newest
>MacOS versions.


the 'Darwin' zipfile is just the compiled binary.
the 'macOS' diskimage is the same but signed/notarized.
as such, the latter is better for distribution...





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Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Miller Puckette via Pd-list]

So I guess the OS11 one should say "10 or later" and the "9" version is the 
same as the
"7" version (so I'll just keep the "7" link around.

thanks
M

On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 02:19:39PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> and since i'm talking aboute editing the site, you may wanna have "
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__puredata.info_&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=vnPheJM8uLP7Fxyee5etc6rEprXDY7_nAxzpfIsJTDI&e=
>  " as an active link on your site ;)
> 
> Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 13:17, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> 
> > cool, now your emails are coming through :)
> >
> > mac downloads on your site are confusing
> >
> > there are 4 downloads
> >
> > - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
> > 
> >
> > - compiled for
> > Macintosh OSX 9 or 10
> > 
> >
> > - 32-bit ("i386") Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later; can load old,
> > 32-bit external libraries
> > 
> >
> > - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
> > 
> >
> > I have 10.14.16 and could download and use the one compiled for OS 11 just
> > fine.
> >
> > The one that says it's compiled for "OSX 9" doesn't seem right - OSX9 is
> > long gone and it'd have to be compiled just for it. This one also
> > uncompresses to a confusing Pd-0.52-0test3-*macosx7* file. And the one
> > compiled to "64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later" also
> > uncompresses to this same file name.  Ayway, I can use this one too as well
> > as the 64 bit for OSX 10.6 or later. So do we really need these 3?
> >
> > cheers
> > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 03:44, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <
> > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
> >
> >> To Pd announce:
> >>
> >> Pd 0.52-0 test3 is out on the usual site:
> >>
> >> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> >>
> >> or (source only) on github: 
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pure-2Ddata_pure-2Ddata&d=DwIFaQ&c=-35OiAkTchMrZOngvJPOeA&r=XprZV3Fxus2L1LCw80hE4Q&m=M1ANtpsp5o1IdXmqK6FhJk7Y5akzcTL5y51zVczlgr0kHoP8RNHj0sl198yRfuHb&s=gIe7LEUDkO4ku3G7Bjp_zUxkM0LBYDnOwrd9ZtbJrgo&e=
> >>  
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> Miller
> >>
> >>
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Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Miller Puckette via Pd-list]

Nope... I think it's a zip file that unpacks to "test3".

but now I don't know which "compile" to use, "Darwin" or "macOS"
(both appear on https://git.iem.at/pd/pure-data/-/pipelines ).  The "Darwin"
is a zip file containing the raw app, and the "macOS" one is a "disk image".
I'd prefer to distribute the "Darwin" version if it works on all the newest
MacOS versions.

cheers
Miller

"macOS is correct, but the one I uploaded was "Darwin".  
On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 03:09:15PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 15:05, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> 
> >
> >
> > Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 14:19, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> > por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> >
> >>
> >> there are 4 downloads
> >>>
> >>> - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
> >>> 
> >>>
> >> hmmm, this one is actually uncompressed to "test2"
> >
> 
> I guess you reverted back to test2 and is fixing things now, right?

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Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 15:05, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

>
>
> Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 14:19, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>>
>> there are 4 downloads
>>>
>>> - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
>>> 
>>>
>> hmmm, this one is actually uncompressed to "test2"
>

I guess you reverted back to test2 and is fixing things now, right?
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Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

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Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 14:19, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

>
> there are 4 downloads
>>
>> - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
>> 
>>
> hmmm, this one is actually uncompressed to "test2"
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Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

and since i'm talking aboute editing the site, you may wanna have "
http://puredata.info/"; as an active link on your site ;)

Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 13:17, Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> cool, now your emails are coming through :)
>
> mac downloads on your site are confusing
>
> there are 4 downloads
>
> - compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later
> 
>
> - compiled for
> Macintosh OSX 9 or 10
> 
>
> - 32-bit ("i386") Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later; can load old,
> 32-bit external libraries
> 
>
> - 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later
> 
>
> I have 10.14.16 and could download and use the one compiled for OS 11 just
> fine.
>
> The one that says it's compiled for "OSX 9" doesn't seem right - OSX9 is
> long gone and it'd have to be compiled just for it. This one also
> uncompresses to a confusing Pd-0.52-0test3-*macosx7* file. And the one
> compiled to "64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later" also
> uncompresses to this same file name.  Ayway, I can use this one too as well
> as the 64 bit for OSX 10.6 or later. So do we really need these 3?
>
> cheers
> Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 03:44, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <
> pd-annou...@lists.iem.at> escreveu:
>
>> To Pd announce:
>>
>> Pd 0.52-0 test3 is out on the usual site:
>>
>> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>>
>> or (source only) on github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>>
>> cheers
>> Miller
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

cool, now your emails are coming through :)

mac downloads on your site are confusing

there are 4 downloads

- compiled for Macintosh OS 11 or later


- compiled for
Macintosh OSX 9 or 10


- 32-bit ("i386") Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later; can load old,
32-bit external libraries


- 64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later


I have 10.14.16 and could download and use the one compiled for OS 11 just
fine.

The one that says it's compiled for "OSX 9" doesn't seem right - OSX9 is
long gone and it'd have to be compiled just for it. This one also
uncompresses to a confusing Pd-0.52-0test3-*macosx7* file. And the one
compiled to "64-bit Macintosh version for OSX 10.6 or later" also
uncompresses to this same file name.  Ayway, I can use this one too as well
as the 64 bit for OSX 10.6 or later. So do we really need these 3?

cheers
Em seg., 6 de dez. de 2021 às 03:44, Miller Puckette via Pd-announce <
pd-annou...@lists.iem.at> escreveu:

> To Pd announce:
>
> Pd 0.52-0 test3 is out on the usual site:
>
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>
> or (source only) on github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
>
>
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