Re: [PD] hexloader incorporated into vanilla?

2017-08-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 08/04/17 06:27, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:
>> Sorry, I just noticed this message.
> 
> 
>> Pd's default loader mechanism has a "hexloader" in it.
> Nevermind-- it appears to be vestigial, as only the non-hexmunged name is 
> used 
> for the filename.

this is intentional.
filenames have way less restrictions than C-symbols, so there is little
reason to hexmunge them and make them even more unreadable by the
ordinary human.


On 08/04/17 01:30, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote:
> Curious-- if the user tries to create [foo], what is the use case for
> the default loader trying to load "foo/foo.$pd_extension" and
> "foo/foo.pd"?

like: loading libraries that keep all their stuff (e.g. documentation)
local in a directory, trying not to pollute your path too much?
i very much prefer to look at:
  bar/
  foo1/
  foo2/
  foo3/
  foo4/
  foo5/
  foo6/
  foo7/
  foo8/
  foo9/
than to look at:
  bar.pd
  bar-help.pd
  foo1.pd
  foo1-help.pd
  foo2.pd
  foo2-help.pd
  foo2.txt
  foo3.pd
  foo3-help.pd
  foo4.pd
  foo4-help.pd
  foo5.pd
  foo5-help.pd
  foo5a.txt
  foo5b.txt
  foo6.pd
  foo6-help.pd
  foo7.pd
  foo7-help.pd
  foo8.pd
  foo8-help.pd
  foo9.pd
  foo9-help.pd
when i'm really only interested in the [bar] object.



sgdfmars
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] hexloader incorporated into vanilla?

2017-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Howdy, don't think this has ever been discussed... sorry if it had.

> So, we need externals with non-alphanumeric names to be loaded into a 
> multi-object library, loaded via start up. If you have them as a set of 
> single-object binaries, the only option seems to be [hexloader] (a third 
> party external). Hence, in order to reduce dependency on third party 
> externals, would there be any opposition in the idea of incorporating the 
> hexloader code into Pd Vanilla? 

> An alternative could be 'deken' handling dependencies, so if you download one 
> external pack it would also download a dependency such as 'hexloader'.

> thoughts?

Sorry, I just noticed this message.
Pd's default loader mechanism has a "hexloader" in it.
Curious-- if the user tries to create [foo], what is the use case for the 
default loader 
trying to load "foo/foo.$pd_extension" and "foo/foo.pd"?

-Jonathan

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[PD] hexloader incorporated into vanilla?

2017-06-14 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Howdy, don't think this has ever been discussed... sorry if it had.

So, we need externals with non-alphanumeric names to be loaded into a
multi-object library, loaded via start up. If you have them as a set of
single-object binaries, the only option seems to be [hexloader] (a third
party external). Hence, in order to reduce dependency on third party
externals, would there be any opposition in the idea of incorporating the
hexloader code into Pd Vanilla?

An alternative could be 'deken' handling dependencies, so if you download
one external pack it would also download a dependency such as 'hexloader'.

thoughts?

cheers
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