Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ico Bukvic]

If I understand you correctly, your concern is with these running on
different hardware? If so, there are builds for x86 Windows, Intel Mac
(should be compatible with newer Arm Mac's via native emulation layer),
Linux x86_64, and Arm (RPi) Linux.

Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

ci.icat.vt.edu
l2ork.icat.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 09:41 Ingo  wrote:

> I'm running a bunch of external libraries.
> Pd-L2Ork has many libraries included but I would have to go through all
> objects on different (Linux) hardware - like Intel, AMD and ARM.
>
> I'll check it out once I have some spare time . . .
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 2:45 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Pd-list
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> No worries, Ingo. If you do have a moment, I am curious to learn what may
> require adapting when switching since all the vanilla objects are
> supported,
> save for those that were recently introduced and which will be ported
> soon.
> So, the older patches should run out-of-box.
>
> Best,
>
> Ico
>
> --
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> Director, Creativity + Innovation
> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>
> Virginia Tech
> Creative Technologies in Music
> School of Performing Arts - 0141
> Blacksburg, VA 24061
> (540) 231-6139
> i...@vt.edu
>
> ci.icat.vt.edu
> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
> ico.bukvic.net
>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 05:32 Ingo  wrote:
> Thanks, Ico!
>
> That's too bad . . .
> It looks great but it would take me a year to switch my patch (that I wrote
> for 15 years now) to Pd-L2Ork.
> From running just a simple audio test it didn't seem to be as efficient as
> vanilla, though.
> Too much risk of wasting a lot of time.
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 2:06 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Pd-list
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core.
> Best,
>
> Ico
>
> --
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> Director, Creativity + Innovation
> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>
> Virginia Tech
> Creative Technologies in Music
> School of Performing Arts - 0141
> Blacksburg, VA 24061
> (540) 231-6139
> i...@vt.edu
>
> ci.icat.vt.edu
> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
> ico.bukvic.net
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo  wrote:
> Thanks, Ico!
>
> This sounds great!
>
> But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian
> 9.5) ?
> Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that
> includes
> all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from
> all of
> the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports
> transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an
> ability
> to track clicks, including their location.
>
> Best,
>
> Ico
>
> --
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> Director, Creativity + Innovation
> Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
> Virginia Tech
> Creative Technologies in Music
> School of Performing Arts - 0141
> Blacksburg, VA 24061
> (540) 231-6139
> i...@vt.edu
>
> ci.icat.vt.edu
> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
> ico.bukvic.net
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo  wrote:
> Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
> addition for making a good looking user interface.
> When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
> alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated
> code in
> Pd.
>
> One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background
> (for
> background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
> Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes
> more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to
> me.
>
> Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
>

Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

I'm running a bunch of external libraries.
Pd-L2Ork has many libraries included but I would have to go through all 
objects on different (Linux) hardware - like Intel, AMD and ARM.

I'll check it out once I have some spare time . . .

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 2:45 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Pd-list
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif 
(like ggee/image) ?

No worries, Ingo. If you do have a moment, I am curious to learn what may 
require adapting when switching since all the vanilla objects are supported, 
save for those that were recently introduced and which will be ported soon. 
So, the older patches should run out-of-box.

Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

ci.icat.vt.edu
l2ork.icat.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 05:32 Ingo  wrote:
Thanks, Ico!

That's too bad . . .
It looks great but it would take me a year to switch my patch (that I wrote
for 15 years now) to Pd-L2Ork.
>From running just a simple audio test it didn't seem to be as efficient as
vanilla, though.
Too much risk of wasting a lot of time.

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 2:06 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Pd-list
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core.
Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

ci.icat.vt.edu
l2ork.icat.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo  wrote:
Thanks, Ico!

This sounds great!

But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian 9.5) ?
Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that includes
all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from all of
the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports
transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an ability
to track clicks, including their location.

Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

ci.icat.vt.edu
l2ork.icat.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net



On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo  wrote:
Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
addition for making a good looking user interface.
When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated code in
Pd.

One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background (for
background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes
more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to me.

Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the
picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the
placement and size.

Ingo



From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:por...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to
work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.

Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can handle
jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me

cheers

Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:
Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
look much better.
Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo


-Original Message-
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
Sent: Satur

Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ico Bukvic]

No worries, Ingo. If you do have a moment, I am curious to learn what may
require adapting when switching since all the vanilla objects are
supported, save for those that were recently introduced and which will be
ported soon. So, the older patches should run out-of-box.

Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

ci.icat.vt.edu
l2ork.icat.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 05:32 Ingo  wrote:

> Thanks, Ico!
>
> That's too bad . . .
> It looks great but it would take me a year to switch my patch (that I
> wrote
> for 15 years now) to Pd-L2Ork.
> From running just a simple audio test it didn't seem to be as efficient as
> vanilla, though.
> Too much risk of wasting a lot of time.
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 2:06 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Pd-list
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core.
> Best,
>
> Ico
>
> --
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> Director, Creativity + Innovation
> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
>
> Virginia Tech
> Creative Technologies in Music
> School of Performing Arts - 0141
> Blacksburg, VA 24061
> (540) 231-6139
> i...@vt.edu
>
> ci.icat.vt.edu
> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
> ico.bukvic.net
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo  wrote:
> Thanks, Ico!
>
> This sounds great!
>
> But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian
> 9.5) ?
> Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that
> includes
> all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from
> all of
> the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports
> transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an
> ability
> to track clicks, including their location.
>
> Best,
>
> Ico
>
> --
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> Director, Creativity + Innovation
> Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
> Virginia Tech
> Creative Technologies in Music
> School of Performing Arts - 0141
> Blacksburg, VA 24061
> (540) 231-6139
> i...@vt.edu
>
> ci.icat.vt.edu
> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
> ico.bukvic.net
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo  wrote:
> Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
> addition for making a good looking user interface.
> When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
> alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated
> code in
> Pd.
>
> One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background
> (for
> background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
> Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes
> more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to
> me.
>
> Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
> It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the
> picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the
> placement and size.
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:por...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to
> work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.
>
> Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
> higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
> tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can
> handle
> jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten
> me
>
> cheers
>
> Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:
> Thanks Peter!
>
> The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.
>
> I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
>

Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

Thanks, Ico!

That's too bad . . .
It looks great but it would take me a year to switch my patch (that I wrote 
for 15 years now) to Pd-L2Ork.
>From running just a simple audio test it didn't seem to be as efficient as 
vanilla, though.
Too much risk of wasting a lot of time.

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 2:06 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Pd-list
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif 
(like ggee/image) ?

Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core.
Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

ci.icat.vt.edu
l2ork.icat.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo  wrote:
Thanks, Ico!

This sounds great!

But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian 9.5) ?
Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that includes
all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from all of
the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports
transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an ability
to track clicks, including their location.

Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

ci.icat.vt.edu
l2ork.icat.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net



On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo  wrote:
Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
addition for making a good looking user interface.
When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated code in
Pd.

One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background (for
background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes
more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to me.

Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the
picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the
placement and size.

Ingo



From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:por...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to
work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.

Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can handle
jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me

cheers

Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:
Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
look much better.
Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo


-Original Message-
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries==image
=
returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
deken search engine.

* Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> images which is working fine.
>
> But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
>
>
>
> Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
>
>
>
> I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on
> Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
>
> At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to wo

Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ico Bukvic]

Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core.

Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

ci.icat.vt.edu
l2ork.icat.vt.edu
ico.bukvic.net

On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo  wrote:

> Thanks, Ico!
>
> This sounds great!
>
> But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian
> 9.5) ?
> Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that
> includes
> all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from
> all of
> the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports
> transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an
> ability
> to track clicks, including their location.
>
> Best,
>
> Ico
>
> --
> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> Director, Creativity + Innovation
> Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
> Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
> Virginia Tech
> Creative Technologies in Music
> School of Performing Arts - 0141
> Blacksburg, VA 24061
> (540) 231-6139
> i...@vt.edu
>
> ci.icat.vt.edu
> l2ork.icat.vt.edu
> ico.bukvic.net
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo  wrote:
> Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
> addition for making a good looking user interface.
> When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
> alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated
> code in
> Pd.
>
> One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background
> (for
> background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
> Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes
> more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to
> me.
>
> Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
> It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the
> picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the
> placement and size.
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:por...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to
> work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.
>
> Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
> higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
> tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can
> handle
> jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten
> me
>
> cheers
>
> Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:
> Thanks Peter!
>
> The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.
>
> I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
> look much better.
> Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.
>
> I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.
>
> Ingo
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
>
> http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries==image
> =
> returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
> https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd
>
> Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
> deken search engine.
>
> * Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> > images which is working fine.
> >
> > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
> >
> >
> >
&

Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

Thanks, Ico!

This sounds great!

But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian 9.5) ?
Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:i...@vt.edu]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif 
(like ggee/image) ?

You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that includes 
all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from all of 
the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports 
transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an ability 
to track clicks, including their location.

Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

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On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo  wrote:
Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
addition for making a good looking user interface.
When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated code in
Pd.

One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background (for
background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes
more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to me.

Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the
picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the
placement and size.

Ingo



From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:por...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to
work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.

Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can handle
jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me

cheers

Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:
Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
look much better.
Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo


-Original Message-
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries==image
=
returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
deken search engine.

* Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> images which is working fine.
>
> But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
>
>
>
> Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
>
>
>
> I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on
> Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
>
> At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
>
>
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ingo
>

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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ico Bukvic]

You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that
includes all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality
from all of the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale,
supports transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as
offers an ability to track clicks, including their location.

Best,

Ico

-- 
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Director, Creativity + Innovation
Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts – 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
i...@vt.edu

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On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39 PM Ingo  wrote:

> Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
> addition for making a good looking user interface.
> When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
> alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated
> code in
> Pd.
>
> One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background
> (for
> background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
> Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas)
> makes
> more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to
> me.
>
> Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
> It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the
> picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the
> placement and size.
>
> Ingo
>
>
>
> From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:por...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
> I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it
> to
> work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.
>
> Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
> higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
> tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can
> handle
> jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten
> me
>
> cheers
>
> Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:
> Thanks Peter!
>
> The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.
>
> I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
> look much better.
> Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.
>
> I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.
>
> Ingo
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
>
> http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries==image
> =
> returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
> https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd
>
> Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
> deken search engine.
>
> * Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> > images which is working fine.
> >
> > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
> >
> >
> >
> > I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on
> > Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
> >
> > At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any help is appreciated!
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ingo
> >
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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great 
addition for making a good looking user interface.
When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an 
alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated code in 
Pd.

One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background (for 
background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes 
more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to me.

Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the 
picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the 
placement and size.

Ingo



From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:por...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Peter P.; pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif 
(like ggee/image) ?

I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to 
work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.

Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for 
higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made 
tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can handle 
jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me

cheers

Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:
Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
look much better.
Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo


-Original Message-
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries==image
=
returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
deken search engine.

* Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> images which is working fine.
>
> But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
>
>
>
> Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
>
>
>
> I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on
> Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
>
> At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
>
>
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ingo
>

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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to
work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.

Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can
handle jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could
enlighten me

cheers

Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo  escreveu:

> Thanks Peter!
>
> The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.
>
> I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
> look much better.
> Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.
>
> I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.
>
> Ingo
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
> To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
> (like ggee/image) ?
>
>
> http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries==image
> =
> returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
> https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd
>
> Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
> deken search engine.
>
> * Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> > images which is working fine.
> >
> > But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> > resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
> >
> >
> >
> > I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on
> > Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
> >
> > At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any help is appreciated!
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Ingo
> >
>
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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

This should have been [; pd-mainpatch.pd vis 1( of course!

-Original Message-
From: Ingo [mailto:i...@miamiwave.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2023 1:55 AM
To: 'oliver'; 'Pd-List'
Subject: RE: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

OK, I probably know now why .png files are not mentioned in the [ggee/image]
help file.
.png images can have transparency.

I made myself a background picture that happend to have some transparency in
the .png file.
This messed up my patch big time ! ! !

Some stuff didn't show up anymore at all or other subpatches didn't even
load after this!
Other (not directly related) subpatches were unreadable at this point.
My main patch that is usually made unvisible could not be made visible
anymore with [pd-mainpatch.pd vis 1(.
( I'm still trying to figure this out . . . )

It took me half a day to find this out since I could not make quite a few of
patches visible anymore.
Without having backup patches a lot of things would have been totally lost.
The -noloadbang flag (which helps in many of these cases) didn't help
because the image was stored with the [ggee/image].

You really have to watch out for this!

Ingo



-Original Message-
From: Ingo [mailto:i...@miamiwave.com]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2023 2:14 PM
To: 'oliver'; 'Pd-List'
Subject: RE: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

Thanks for letting us know, Oliver!

I didn't try that and didn't expect it because the help file does only
mention gif, ppm and pgm formats.
.png is much easier since I don't have to convert it and can look at it from
any os without extra software.

Ingo



-Original Message-
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of oliver
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2023 10:49 AM
To: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

Ingo wrote:
> Thanks Peter!
>
> The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.
>
> I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed
> and look much better.
> Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.
>
> I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

On a sidenote:


[ggee/image] also opens .png files, whereas [iem_image] does not !

Does anyone know why is that ?


best

oliver



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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

OK, I probably know now why .png files are not mentioned in the [ggee/image]
help file.
.png images can have transparency.

I made myself a background picture that happend to have some transparency in
the .png file.
This messed up my patch big time ! ! !

Some stuff didn't show up anymore at all or other subpatches didn't even
load after this!
Other (not directly related) subpatches were unreadable at this point.
My main patch that is usually made unvisible could not be made visible
anymore with [pd-mainpatch.pd vis 1(.
( I'm still trying to figure this out . . . )

It took me half a day to find this out since I could not make quite a few of
patches visible anymore.
Without having backup patches a lot of things would have been totally lost.
The -noloadbang flag (which helps in many of these cases) didn't help
because the image was stored with the [ggee/image].

You really have to watch out for this!

Ingo



-Original Message-
From: Ingo [mailto:i...@miamiwave.com]
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2023 2:14 PM
To: 'oliver'; 'Pd-List'
Subject: RE: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

Thanks for letting us know, Oliver!

I didn't try that and didn't expect it because the help file does only
mention gif, ppm and pgm formats.
.png is much easier since I don't have to convert it and can look at it from
any os without extra software.

Ingo



-Original Message-
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of oliver
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2023 10:49 AM
To: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

Ingo wrote:
> Thanks Peter!
>
> The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.
>
> I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed
> and look much better.
> Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.
>
> I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

On a sidenote:


[ggee/image] also opens .png files, whereas [iem_image] does not !

Does anyone know why is that ?


best

oliver



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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

Thanks for letting us know, Oliver!

I didn't try that and didn't expect it because the help file does only
mention gif, ppm and pgm formats.
.png is much easier since I don't have to convert it and can look at it from
any os without extra software.

Ingo



-Original Message-
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of oliver
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2023 10:49 AM
To: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

Ingo wrote:
> Thanks Peter!
>
> The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.
>
> I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed
> and look much better.
> Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.
>
> I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

On a sidenote:


[ggee/image] also opens .png files, whereas [iem_image] does not !

Does anyone know why is that ?


best

oliver



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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[oliver]

Ingo wrote:

Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
look much better.
Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.


On a sidenote:


[ggee/image] also opens .png files, whereas [iem_image] does not !

Does anyone know why is that ?


best

oliver



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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

Thanks, Patice!

I will take a look at ofelia.

Ingo


From: Patco [mailto:colet.patr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:23 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif 
(like ggee/image) ?

Hello,

 have you tried ofelia external?


Le 1 avr. 2023 à 15:34, Ingo  a écrit :

Hello,

I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images which 
is working fine.
But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 
resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.

Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?

I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and 
ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks
Ingo
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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
look much better.
Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo


-Original Message-
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries==image
=
returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
deken search engine.

* Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> images which is working fine.
>
> But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
>
>
>
> Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
>
>
>
> I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on
> Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
>
> At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
>
>
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ingo
>

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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Patco]

Hello,

 have you tried ofelia external?

> Le 1 avr. 2023 à 15:34, Ingo  a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images which 
> is working fine.
> But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080 
> resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
>  
> Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
>  
> I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and 
> ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
> At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
>  
> Any help is appreciated!
>  
> Thanks
> Ingo
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Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Peter P.]

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries==image=
returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image
object https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
deken search engine.

* Ingo  [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images
> which is working fine.
> 
> But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
> 
>  
> 
> Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
> 
>  
> 
> I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and
> ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
> 
> At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
> 
>  
> 
> Any help is appreciated!
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ingo
> 

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[PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

[Ingo]

Hello,

 

I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small) images
which is working fine.

But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.

 

Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?

 

I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on Intel and
ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.

At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.

 

Any help is appreciated!

 

Thanks

Ingo

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