Re: [Pdl-general] CHM passing on PDL maintainer torch

2019-11-10 Thread Ed . 
Life has a way of moving between peaks and troughs. One could probably 
analyse those peaks and troughs in a number of ways using the various 
wonderful PDL features both in core, and the various excellent plugins!

When CHM did in fact pass the maintainer torch, it was my intention to weigh 
in and acknowledge this. Life got in the way, as it sometimes can. Luis's 
question was well-timed as I've just been able to start doing some 
open-source work again.

CHM has done fantastic work on this project during all the years I've been 
part of it, and it is an awesome responsibility to try to match his 
standards. If PDL continues to excel, and to meet users' needs, it will be 
because of CHM, and various other luminaries and contributors. On his watch, 
the code stayed stable, advanced to new fundamental technological 
capabilities such as 64-bit computing, and moved to more powerful, easier 
collaboration using GitHub.

So, let us all thank CHM, and seek to continue his work. Let us then 
consider together what we want out of PDL.

The immediate next steps are for me to cut a dev release of PDL as-is, to 
see how it does with CPAN testers.

As you know, I have been showing the possibilities of breaking up PDL, using 
the PDLA banner. That can continue, if people want to move in that 
direction. Like CHM, I am cautious about breaking up PDL itself, but will be 
happy to import the PDLA work back into PDL and shutter PDLA if that is what 
people want. I am optimistic that with "cpanm" and other tools, a broken-up 
PDL will work exactly as well as the current monolith, but install much 
faster. The only caveat is that I don't really want to divide efforts by 
doing active work on both PDL and PDLA. Please weigh in!

Additionally, to answer Luis's immediate question, there are many different 
aspects to the PDL ecosphere, to which important, even vital contributions 
are possible. One could start by reading the various introductory documents 
available under http://pdl.perl.org/?docs=Tutorials=PDL::Tutorials

* Do you like explaining things? Go over the various docs, and look for ways 
to improve them.
* Do you like working with C and parsers? The "advanced" section explains 
the PDL API, and also the parser PDL::PP (there are some improvements I want 
to make to simplify that).
* Do you like devops etc? You can make the PDL distro be automatically 
generatable, probably using Dist::Zilla.
* Do you like modern web techniques? You could complete Joel's excellent 
start to converting pdl.perl.org itself from its current form, to a more 
JavaScript-driven site, available within the PDLPorters GitHub organisation.
* Do you like measuring things? You could do an up-to-date, like-for-like 
performance comparison between PDL, R, numpy, MATLAB, ...
* Do you want to support and advance science? My sketched-out "repro" tool, 
which allows you to specify software (e.g. PDL) modules and versions, input 
data, operations (such as a supplied script), and observed output data, will 
provide a starting point for people to reproduce (hence the name) scientific 
results, but then to immediately modify those operations, or provide other 
data, and see what happens. This will probably operate using the GitHub APIs 
so you'd be able to automatically fork a provided "repro set" (as we could 
call it), and make pull requests with updates.

The possibilities are endless. Please share your thoughts, and whether you 
would like to help out!

All the best,
Ed

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From: Luis Mochan
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On Sat, Nov 09, 2019 at 11:20:36PM +0100, Ingo Schmid wrote:
> Hello,
>
> has this list and PDL development stopped altogether

Hope not...

> with Chris passing
> on the hat? That would be a doubly sad development.


I would like to learn about the innards of PDL and then help when I
find me some time. What is the best way to start?

Greetings,
Luis


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Re: [Pdl-general] CHM passing on PDL maintainer torch

2019-11-09 Thread Grégory Vanuxem 
I'm disappointed. Frankly

Greg

Le dim. 10 nov. 2019 à 02:16, Luis Mochan  a écrit :

> On Sat, Nov 09, 2019 at 11:20:36PM +0100, Ingo Schmid wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > has this list and PDL development stopped altogether
>
> Hope not...
>
> > with Chris passing
> > on the hat? That would be a doubly sad development.
>
>
> I would like to learn about the innards of PDL and then help when I
> find me some time. What is the best way to start?
>
> Greetings,
> Luis
>
>
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Re: [Pdl-general] CHM passing on PDL maintainer torch

2019-11-09 Thread Luis Mochan 
On Sat, Nov 09, 2019 at 11:20:36PM +0100, Ingo Schmid wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> has this list and PDL development stopped altogether

Hope not...

> with Chris passing
> on the hat? That would be a doubly sad development.


I would like to learn about the innards of PDL and then help when I
find me some time. What is the best way to start?

Greetings,
Luis


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Re: [Pdl-general] CHM passing on PDL maintainer torch

2019-11-09 Thread Ingo Schmid 

Hello,

has this list and PDL development stopped altogether with Chris passing
on the hat? That would be a doubly sad development.

Ingo

Am 01.08.2019 um 01:19 schrieb Grégory Vanuxem:

Hello,

Sad thing

I hope good things for you.
It's good sometimes.

Will have to speak with you about LinearAlebra and PDL::Complex.


Hope to see you later a little bit later

Greg


Ps / Good job

Le mar. 30 juil. 2019 à 01:10, Luis Mochan mailto:moc...@icf.unam.mx>> a écrit :

I'm grateful to Chris for all his work, to Ed and Diab for accepting
the responsability of keeping PDL alive and well, to all of those
that have helped build, develop and keep the system, and who have
helped me and my colleagues whenever we've stumbled.
Regards,
Luis


On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 08:03:52PM -0600,  Craig DeForest (SwRI)
wrote:
> Wow.  How long it has been.  Chris, you had a great run and as a
result so has PDL.  I want to join in the chorus of thanks coming
your way!
>
> It is sobering to realize that when I (as a boy) learned FORTRAN
in the early 80s it was as old then as PDL is now.
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Karl Glazebrook via pdl-general
mailto:pdl-general@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Chris for all your hard work. I find it hard to believe
too, and equally hard to believe PDL is now 23 years old
> >
> > best
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> >> On 28 Jul 2019, at 6:25 am, Chris Marshall
mailto:devel.chm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear PDL Users and Developers,
> >>
> >> I've just transferred maintainership for PDL et. al. to
> >> EDJ/DJERIUS and am stepping down as the PDL release manager.
> >> It is hard to believe that it has been 10 years!
> >>
> >> Best wishes to PDL for the next ten years...
> >>
> >> V/r,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> "so long and thanks for all the fish!"
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Pdl-general] CHM passing on PDL maintainer torch

2019-07-31 Thread Grégory Vanuxem 
Hello,

Sad thing

I hope good things for you.
It's good sometimes.

Will have to speak with you about LinearAlebra and PDL::Complex.


Hope to see you later a little bit later

Greg


Ps / Good job

Le mar. 30 juil. 2019 à 01:10, Luis Mochan  a écrit :

> I'm grateful to Chris for all his work, to Ed and Diab for accepting
> the responsability of keeping PDL alive and well, to all of those
> that have helped build, develop and keep the system, and who have
> helped me and my colleagues whenever we've stumbled.
> Regards,
> Luis
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 08:03:52PM -0600,  Craig DeForest (SwRI) wrote:
> > Wow.  How long it has been.  Chris, you had a great run and as a result
> so has PDL.  I want to join in the chorus of thanks coming your way!
> >
> > It is sobering to realize that when I (as a boy) learned FORTRAN in the
> early 80s it was as old then as PDL is now.
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Karl Glazebrook via pdl-general <
> pdl-general@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris for all your hard work. I find it hard to believe too,
> and equally hard to believe PDL is now 23 years old
> > >
> > > best
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 28 Jul 2019, at 6:25 am, Chris Marshall 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Dear PDL Users and Developers,
> > >>
> > >> I've just transferred maintainership for PDL et. al. to
> > >> EDJ/DJERIUS and am stepping down as the PDL release manager.
> > >> It is hard to believe that it has been 10 years!
> > >>
> > >> Best wishes to PDL for the next ten years...
> > >>
> > >> V/r,
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> "so long and thanks for all the fish!"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [Pdl-general] CHM passing on PDL maintainer torch

2019-07-29 Thread Luis Mochan 
I'm grateful to Chris for all his work, to Ed and Diab for accepting
the responsability of keeping PDL alive and well, to all of those
that have helped build, develop and keep the system, and who have
helped me and my colleagues whenever we've stumbled.
Regards,
Luis


On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 08:03:52PM -0600,  Craig DeForest (SwRI) wrote:
> Wow.  How long it has been.  Chris, you had a great run and as a result so 
> has PDL.  I want to join in the chorus of thanks coming your way!
> 
> It is sobering to realize that when I (as a boy) learned FORTRAN in the early 
> 80s it was as old then as PDL is now.  
> 
> 
> > On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Karl Glazebrook via pdl-general 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks Chris for all your hard work. I find it hard to believe too, and 
> > equally hard to believe PDL is now 23 years old
> > 
> > best
> > 
> > Karl
> > 
> > 
> >> On 28 Jul 2019, at 6:25 am, Chris Marshall  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Dear PDL Users and Developers,
> >> 
> >> I've just transferred maintainership for PDL et. al. to
> >> EDJ/DJERIUS and am stepping down as the PDL release manager.
> >> It is hard to believe that it has been 10 years!
> >> 
> >> Best wishes to PDL for the next ten years...
> >> 
> >> V/r,
> >> Chris
> >> 
> >> "so long and thanks for all the fish!"
> >> 
> >> 
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Re: [Pdl-general] CHM passing on PDL maintainer torch

2019-07-27 Thread Karl Glazebrook via pdl-general 
Thanks Chris for all your hard work. I find it hard to believe too, and equally 
hard to believe PDL is now 23 years old

best

Karl


> On 28 Jul 2019, at 6:25 am, Chris Marshall  wrote:
> 
> Dear PDL Users and Developers,
> 
> I've just transferred maintainership for PDL et. al. to
> EDJ/DJERIUS and am stepping down as the PDL release manager.
> It is hard to believe that it has been 10 years!
> 
> Best wishes to PDL for the next ten years...
> 
> V/r,
> Chris
> 
> "so long and thanks for all the fish!"
> 
> 
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[Pdl-general] CHM passing on PDL maintainer torch

2019-07-27 Thread Chris Marshall 

Dear PDL Users and Developers,

I've just transferred maintainership for PDL et. al. to
EDJ/DJERIUS and am stepping down as the PDL release manager.
It is hard to believe that it has been 10 years!

Best wishes to PDL for the next ten years...

V/r,
Chris

"so long and thanks for all the fish!"



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