First World/Third World
On Monday, July 02, 2001 8:42 AM, Peter Alling [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Your assumption is wrong, it's cold war terminology. First World Western European/North American( US Canada )/Asian (Japan Korea Taiwan) block allied against... Second World (Industrialized Communist Countries) Soviet Union, Peoples Republic of China, Most Eastern European Countries, Cuba. Which leaves the third world, Mostly unindustrialized countries who either didn't or pretended not to take sides. This classification system stopped being useful almost immediately, and was misused from the start. (It's always fun to realize that Sweden under this system is a Third World Power, not what one would usually think). Can't let this one go without comment! My feeling is that this terminology derives from the Euro-centric education that many of us had, where the Americas were the 'New World' for many centuries: thus, when one wished to describe non-European and non-American countries, the term 'Third World' was the only viable usage. My dictionary gives the origin as, and I quote: '1950's, translating tiers monde: first used to distinguish the developing African, Asian and Latin American countries from the capitalist and Communist blocs.' Certainly modern usage has the sense attached of 'under-privileged' or 'under-developed', particularly in an economic sense. Many countries of the former Communist bloc can certainly never be called under-developed - over-developed and over-exploited is more like it, I think! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S AF (was Re: MZ-S sales)
Alan wrote (about MZ-S): AC ...AF was AC not particular fast either (FA50/1.4). It feels small and solid however. How many seconds from minimum distance to infinity? :o/ Servus, Alin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Feel free to comment on my pug entry
On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 17:55:47 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: I think I prefer that we go back to the system where anyone commented on anything they wanted. Well, what stops you? You're still free to comment on anything. What has changed is the assignments for EVERY submission, there are assignments only for people who register for it ... (or did I miss another change? :-) Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: SMCK 1000mm f/8 + Asahi wooden tripod (not mine)
To anyone who's interested, this lens is in very good condition (I've played with it myself). The shop is very reputable, takes credit cards and ships internationally. The lens is manual aperture and uses rack pinion focus (min focus distance is about 30 metres). It uses an internal filter (I don't remember the thread size), and the original filter is fully intact. In similar fashion to some other big glass I've seen, you can rotate the camera body without having to turn the whole lens, as the bayonet itself is able to rotate. A couple of pictures, full contact details and more are at: http://www.photo.co.nz/photo/ Now take advantage of the low NZ dollar (this lens works out to about US$1900 plus shipping, including the tripod), and don't forget to mention my name when you buy it ;) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Ramblings about musings about decisions (OT)
John Coyle writes: I mount those that are worth projecting, then save the rest in archive pages uncut. That way, if I have duplicate frames (which I used to do a lot for peace of mind, but don't nowadays so much) I can scan the uncut one more easily than having to wreck the mount. Although, the new scanner allows me to scan mounted slides too! Up until my most recent roll I was getting my slides mounted boxed. Very convenient to store and only cost a couple of dollars more than unmounted. The down-side was that the lab doesn't always mount the slides properly, and being cheap mounts you can't reseal them. Plus, they use an old dot matrix printer to put the frame numbers and other info on the mount, and sometimes I get little bits of black stuff on my slides, presumably bits of ink ribbon. I got sick enough of it to switch to getting my film returned cut sleeved, and I'm mounting them myself using Gepe mounts which I can take apart and reset as much as I like. The other reason I switched to this is that since I bought my scanner I've decided that I trust the scanner's filmstrip holder better than slide mounts, as far as film flatness is concerned. Also, because the slide scanner can only handle single frames of 6x7 (instead of 120 strips), I've gone to Gepe mounts for those as well. I figured that since I have to cut my film strips into separate frames I'm going to need some way of storing them and the slide mounts are really the only way I can keep any information with the slide, as well as being easy to handle and relatively robust. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S-Finder?
Hy, as a fellow MZ-5n-owner wearing glasses I often look enviously at Nikon's F3 with the HP-finder (high-eyepoint). Last week I've tried a used Pentax LX in a camera shop but was disappointed, as I could't get an overall view with its finder and my glasses. Now I wonder, if Pentax has thougt of persons with glasses, when they constructed the MZ-S. Has anybody tried the MZ-S and can tell me something about the quality of the finder? Is it comparable to that of the F3 HP or more like that of my MZ-5n? Bye, Heiko Germany - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Special SMC zoom?
That looks like the reflection of the flourescent lights that this photo was taken under. Thought a blue lens would be quite unique. :) Nick --- William Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kinda reminds me of an imac, except not transparent. Bill Matt Johnson wrote: I'm not sure if anyone has asked yet or not, but I noticed a SMC-A 70-210mm on ebay. The thing I found odd was that it was blue. It also has one low bid on it, whats the story on this lens? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1250902036 _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: SMCK 1000mm f/8 + Asahi wooden tripod (not mine)
Thanks David, Although I did not buy that lens, I found a 55 f1.8 K. I will finally retire my screwmount back with my spotmatics. Bob Rapp - Original Message - From: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:36 PM Subject: FS: SMCK 1000mm f/8 + Asahi wooden tripod (not mine) To anyone who's interested, this lens is in very good condition (I've played with it myself). The shop is very reputable, takes credit cards and ships internationally. The lens is manual aperture and uses rack pinion focus (min focus distance is about 30 metres). It uses an internal filter (I don't remember the thread size), and the original filter is fully intact. In similar fashion to some other big glass I've seen, you can rotate the camera body without having to turn the whole lens, as the bayonet itself is able to rotate. A couple of pictures, full contact details and more are at: http://www.photo.co.nz/photo/ Now take advantage of the low NZ dollar (this lens works out to about US$1900 plus shipping, including the tripod), and don't forget to mention my name when you buy it ;) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Special SMC zoom?
On Sun, 01 Jul 2001 20:45:48 -0500, Matt Johnson wrote: I'm not sure if anyone has asked yet or not, but I noticed a SMC-A 70-210mm on ebay. The thing I found odd was that it was blue. It also has one low bid on it, whats the story on this lens? I asked thge seller. He said that the webcam he used to take the pics is worthless, and the lens is really black. :-) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S sales
Robert wrote: One MZ-S feature nobody has mentioned yet is the time lag between pressing the shutter release and the shutter actually firing. How does it compare to the LX, say, which is extremely fast? I don't really know or notice. The camera is so silent that you hardly hear anything until the buzzing sound from the film transport starts. I'll guess its about the same as the Z-1p regarding time lag. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Lens ???
I would not be waiting for a Pentax 17-35 FA. I suspect that Pentax would rather make an 18/2.8 to fill that hole. A FA 18/2.8 Limited + a FA 20-35/4 will possibly be cheaper and smaller than a 17-35/2.8. Pentax is indeed working on image stabilization. When or whether it reach the market is up to the marketing guys. Silent wave or USM rumors exist but their credibility is totally unknown (to me). Pentax said at the Photokina show in 1996 that they were considering an 80-200/2.8 without power zoom. So far it hasn't materialized. You write to Pentax engineers by posting at PDML; or at least the marketing people who decide whats going to be released. The engineers have made both Image stabilization lenses, exostic ultrafast glass, Z-1p replacement etc. The marketing people decides whats going to reach production. - Original Message - From: Pentax Clover To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 12:54 AM Subject: New Lens ??? Hello Does anybody heard something about a 17-35mm f/:2.8 FA ??? And about stabilisation or silent wave ??? And do you think it is going to be released a new 80-200mm f/:2.8, cheaper, without power zoom ??? Last: How can we write to Japanese Pentax engineers ? I hope to ask them to release some lens I feel missing Thanks See you [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Feel free to comment on my pug entry
Could someone correct me if I'm wrong: 1. Anyone can still comment on any photo, as they wish; 2. If you want your image commented upon by the formal critiques arranged and co-ordinated by Chris Brogden (thanks again for your time and effort, Chris), contact him directly with a brief e-mail; 3. If you seek comments by the public at large, you can indicate so in the comments section of your submission (as indeed some have done this month. Does that sound right? regards, frank Paul Jones wrote: I think the new system was to nominate if you wished to have your photo commented on. I'd like comments :) Cheers, Paul Jones PS: The pug is getting talked about much less now we have this system. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S AF (was Re: MZ-S sales)
Alin wrote: How many seconds from minimum distance to infinity? :o/ Hrmmpffbenchmarking AF performance by measuring time from infinity to close focusing with the lens cap on has very little to do with true AF performance. By this measure the FA* 200/4 Macro is the fastest focusing AF lens out there since it focusing from a meter to infinity with a minute turn of the helicoid. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Feel free to comment on my pug entry
Hi, Paul, Since you specifically ask for comments on your beautiful image, here goes: The colour of the opening rose bud us absolutely stunning, especially juxtaposed against all of the green shades around it. I love the detail of the bud. The drops of dew are lovely; I especially like the dewdrop just about to drip from the leave below the bud. I'm not sure that I've entirely figured out bokeh yet, but I think you have! The out-of-focus background is particularly engaging, like abstract swirls of green. The look like the broad brushstrokes of an Impressionist painter. Take away the in-focus foreground, and the image would still be beautiful. Maybe you should break your other arm! :-) Seriously, a beautiful work. regards, frank Paul Jones wrote: I think the new system was to nominate if you wished to have your photo commented on. I'd like comments :) Cheers, Paul Jones PS: The pug is getting talked about much less now we have this system. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Rapidly going very OT: Re: First World/Third World
At 06:06 PM 7/2/2001 +1000, you wrote: On Monday, July 02, 2001 8:42 AM, Peter Alling [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Your assumption is wrong, it's cold war terminology. First World Western European/North American( US Canada )/Asian (Japan Korea Taiwan) block allied against... Second World (Industrialized Communist Countries) Soviet Union, Peoples Republic of China, Most Eastern European Countries, Cuba. Which leaves the third world, Mostly unindustrialized countries who either didn't or pretended not to take sides. This classification system stopped being useful almost immediately, and was misused from the start. (It's always fun to realize that Sweden under this system is a Third World Power, not what one would usually think). Can't let this one go without comment! My feeling is that this terminology derives from the Euro-centric education that many of us had, where the Americas were the 'New World' for many centuries: thus, when one wished to describe non-European and non-American countries, the term 'Third World' was the only viable usage. My dictionary gives the origin as, and I quote: '1950's, translating tiers monde: first used to distinguish the developing African, Asian and Latin American countries from the capitalist and Communist blocs.' Certainly modern usage has the sense attached of 'under-privileged' or 'under-developed', particularly in an economic sense. Many countries of the former Communist bloc can certainly never be called under-developed - over-developed and over-exploited is more like it, I think! You can believe that if you wish, but I believe the term third world was invented by Mao to refer to the non-aligned nations. (He included China in this block for his purposes). This would have to be clearly non-European propaganda since his usage was intended to create a new power center with China as it's natural leader. Old World, New World these terms were useful to the American and French revolutionaries, (yes I know Europeans), and the earlier European monarchies for their describing geo-political reality. Most of the current, (now passe, actually with the discrediting of Communism in it's modern homeland), terminology is born of the propaganda wars between The West, (not really capitalism) and the religion of communism, (and it is really easy to understand the pattern if you consider it a religion), with it's great schism between orthodox, (Soviet), and reform, (Chinese). It really isn't very helpful to mix the rhetoric of different eras. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S sales
John wrote: I suspect this is a combination of the time taken for data imprinting and the difference in winder speeds. But isn't dataimpinting done while the camera rewind the film? Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Z1/Z1P
Dear list, I reading in Pentax faq about the diffrences between Z1 and Z1p cameras. Tthere is mentioned: Unfortunately the Z-1p doesn't have the interval shooting. What is interval shooting? I will be grateful to know what it means. I am also trying to join the pentax family and considering a used Z1 or preferably a Z1p as my ticket to your world. There is a Z1 body on Ebay these days without reserve price. How much a good Z1 or Z1p worth in the used marked? Thanks in advance, Mojtaba Please remove mr when replying by email. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Filters on FA 24-90?
I interested in the experience of those who are using the FA 24-90. At 24 mm., can you use regular filters without vignetting, or do you need a thin filter? Thanks, Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: My 5 PUG picks
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Paul Jones wrote: [...] Metro, Paris, 2001 by Juan Buhler I like the feel of this shot, its all very clean sanatised for a train station which works well with the drunk guy (i assume he's drunk). Thanks very much, Paul. I wasn't going to take this picture (I try not to make drunks or homeless people the subject of my pictures) but when the train arrived I realized how interesting the contrast between the sitting still guy and the moving train was, and I had to take it... j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Z1/Z1P
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Mojtaba wrote: Unfortunately the Z-1p doesn't have the interval shooting. What is interval shooting? You can set the Z-1 to shoot a programmable number of pictures, with a programmable interval between pictures, and start doing so after a programmable period of time. It is little mora than a gimmick, unless you have a very specific use for it. j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
July PUG comments Was: Re: Feel free to comment on my pug entry
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Frank Theriault wrote: Could someone correct me if I'm wrong: 1. Anyone can still comment on any photo, as they wish; 2. If you want your image commented upon by the formal critiques arranged and co-ordinated by Chris Brogden (thanks again for your time and effort, Chris), contact him directly with a brief e-mail; 3. If you seek comments by the public at large, you can indicate so in the comments section of your submission (as indeed some have done this month. Does that sound right? Yup, this pretty much sums it up. I've been a bit busy lately and forgot to remind people to let me know if they wanted the commentators to talk about their photo. It's a little late now, so let's skip the organized commentary this month and pick it up again in August, when I'll be more on the ball. Sorry! For the record, the following people have asked for their photos to be commented on (sorry if I've missed anyone), so if people feel up to the task I'm sure they'd appreciate it. Thanks! Tom Cakalic William Robb Frank Theriault chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Z1/Z1P
Mojtaba wrote: There is a Z1 body on Ebay these days without reserve price. How much a good Z1 or Z1p worth in the used marked? Since you're in Norway you might consider bying mine. E-mail me if interested... Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S Power Consumption
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Pål Jensen wrote: The battery low warning sign has started to light on my MZ-S. I would estimate that about 20 rolls have gone through it. I did however experiment with AF with the 600/4 and I have also used some AF with the 200 macro. Never fired the built-in flash though. Not very encouraging; after all, batteries for the thing costs $19 around here. Anyway, its the first set of batteries and I'll let it goe through another set before I make final judgemenst. Did you buy these batteries off the shelf, or were they the free ones thrown in with the camera? In Canada, anyways, the free ones don't last very long. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S sales
I suspect this is a combination of the time taken for data imprinting and the difference in winder speeds. But isn't dataimpinting done while the camera rewind the film? Pål I didn't think so. I'll have a look at my roll of film with the overlapping frames when I get home - that should tell me whether the imprinting is done individually for each exposure, or if the imprinting is done during rewind. -- John Francis . . . . . . . . . . (650) 429-4427 MyWay.com 444 Castro St. Suite 101,Mt. View, CA 94041 Hello. My name is Darth Vader. I am your Father. Prepare to die. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: July PUG comments Was: Re: Feel free to comment on my pug entry
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Chris Brogden wrote: [...] about their photo. It's a little late now, so let's skip the organized commentary this month and pick it up again in August, when I'll be more on the ball. Sorry! For the record, the following people have asked for [...] Thanks Chris for taking on this task, it's appreciated. Fwiw, I always welcome comments on my pictures. Especially negative ones, as those are the ones that teach me things. j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ramblings about musings about decisions (OT)
tom wrote: D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote: The lab I use that does internegs says they need a mounted slide (I presume I could ask them to mount a slide for me as needed, but I do have convenient plastic mounts handy at home). What lab is this? That doesn't sound right to me. I've seen some low-volume slide duplicator/interneg machines that accept the slide only into a small drawer that requires the slide to be in a mount. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Decisions decisions
Jon Hope wrote: If I buy the LX, the MZ-S is out the window for a year or more. Well, I bet that the MZ-S will drop in price over the course of a year, where the LX really won't. Plus, unless the MZ-S turns out to be a total dog, it'll still be easily available in a year. But I'm an LX guy. If you're not going to use the LX, it's not worth buying...send the seller to us, we'll snap it up. ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: July PUG
Juan wrote: Virulana by?Albano Garcia This also made me smile. Virulana is in Argentina a household name for these very fine steel sponges used for cleaning. Setting them afire to watch the sparkles is a typical experiment you do when you're a kid... Hi, Juan. Yes, that's exactly what we've done for the picture. But we are not kids, we are a bit grown up. In fact, I'm a bit ashamed by my july sibmission. I made various shots of my friend doing the sponge spinning, at different speeds, and chosen this one due to the sparkles. But it's the one were you can't see him. I was a bit idiot. In the other shots, the situatuion is more clear, you see the sparkles and you see him too. My cheapo scanner helped with its poor color depth. He is more present in my print :-( Thanks and bye Albano PS: My LX Gallery shot is way better... :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Price of A 2X-L converter
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:05:07 +0200, Pl Jensen wrote: What is the A 2X-L converter going for in the used market these days? I paid just US$ 130 for one, about 3 months ago, but considered it a bargain. This was from a retailer that didn't really know what he had ... Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Security
ramadoss wrote: Please keep us updated with any important security info. Thanks. Not to be a pain, but I'd suggest that if you want security info as related to Windows machines, you should join a group dedicated to that. Not all of us here are running equipment that these notices are relevant to, and some of those who are still aren't interested in receiving them from the Pentax list. I'm sure that someone on the list can give you a couple of virus-notification lists that are worth being subscribed to. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Z1/Z1P
On Mon, 02 Jul 2001 19:36:55 +0200, Mojtaba wrote: What is interval shooting? You can program the Z1 to take up to 36 pictures with a certain interval in between. The interval can be from 1 sec to 24 hours ... Regards, JvW - Jan van Wijk; www.fsys.demon.nl - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: July PUG
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Juan. Yes, that's exactly what we've done for the picture. But we are not kids, we are a bit grown up. In fact, I'm a bit ashamed by my july sibmission. I made various shots of my friend doing the sponge spinning, at different speeds, and chosen this one due to the sparkles. But it's the one were you can't see him. I was a bit idiot. In the other shots, the situatuion is more clear, you see the sparkles and you see him too. My cheapo scanner helped with its poor color depth. He is more present in my print :-( But I did like it! I meant kids in a good way :-) You're right, it would be interesting to see your friend in the back. BTW, this would have been a good one for next month's alternative light theme... j -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: User report on Lowepro AW packback
I had one of them for about a week, and the strap buckle (made of plastic) let go one time when I was picking it up at an angle. All of my photo gear went smashing to the ground. And no, it was not overloaded. Repeated angry calls, letters and emails to LowePro resulted in them sending out a brand new top of the line LowePro Pro-Trekker AW to replace it. However, this was after $500.00 in claims to my camera insurance for repairs. That particular bag (your Phototrekker) is the only one in the line that has those silly little plastic clips which bear ALL of the weight of the gear: my advice would be to replace them with something metal (at a shoe repair place, under $10.00) or watch that thing like a hawk, particularly as you purchase more equipment and it gets heavier. I still had room for another camera and a Large lens, and mine let go, crashing down 6' onto cement. I have had three other LowePro bags that have been fabulous, as is my current one. That one was not good. Perhaps LowePro has returned to the use of metal clips, which always used to be used on their equipment. Cameron Hood - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Security
Thanks for the feedback. One does not get sensitized to computer security issue, based on my personal experience, until one gets hit with a disaster.Till then ignorance is bliss. Hopefully none of us would be victims. mkr At 02:42 PM 7/2/01 -0400, you wrote: ramadoss wrote: Please keep us updated with any important security info. Thanks. Not to be a pain, but I'd suggest that if you want security info as related to Windows machines, you should join a group dedicated to that. Not all of us here are running equipment that these notices are relevant to, and some of those who are still aren't interested in receiving them from the Pentax list. I'm sure that someone on the list can give you a couple of virus-notification lists that are worth being subscribed to. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
July PUG comments
Hi all, Once again, another fine monthly gallery. I enjoyed them all too much to pick out five -- or even ten -- favorites. Comments on several of the ones I liked are listed below. As always, I'd appreciate any comments or criticisms on my submission this month, especially since this month's submission is my first attempt at scanning directly from a negative (35mm at 1200 dpi) on my newly acquired flatbed scanner. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY == Pine Nuts, by Thomas Cakalic Nice shot, Tom. This caught my eye immediately, because it's very similar (in subject matter) to some macro shots I took a couple weeks ago during a very light rain. I still have a couple more shots on the roll, so I'll have to wait to see if mine turn out as nice as this one. Very nice colors, and nice bokeh. Reminds me of Christmas. Lobelia, by David Dixon This seems like a technically challenging shot, since any slight movement between exposures would cause the most sharply focused flower to show up in the final print as up to four out-of-register images. That doesn't seem to be the case here, so I think you've pulled this off quite nicely. Very interesting effect -- I like it. Lynn Headwaters, October 1999, by Cameron Hood Beautiful saturated colors, nice composition, and nice rendering of flowing water. This shot certainly stands on its own. But the dramatic story that accompanies this shot really leaves me wanting to see some during and after shots of the storm that caught you by surprise. Indeed, a very powerful reminder of the importance of being prepared during autumn hikes in the mountains. VLA at Sunset, by John Cohen The silhoutte lighting and ominous sky work very well in this shot. I'm used to seeing pictures of several of these radio dishes, usually shot from a great distance in much more ordinary light. Your shot captures -- at least for me -- more of a sense of drama and urgency. Would make a nice opening slide for a public outreach talk on why radio astronomy is so cool, what we learn from studying celestial radio sources, and so forth. Photography in Paradise, by Joseph Tainter Aptly titled! Great lighting on this shot. For me, this shot doesn't jump out and evoke a typical image of the Southwest -- it's different, and I think that's part of the appeal. Looks like it could just as well be the crumbling ruins of some Old World archeological site. Inquisitive, by Bill Sawyer Another great title! There were several nice wildlife shots this month, and it's hard to pick a favorite. A couple of the things I like about this shot are the simple composition and the great facial expression. I think the detail of the front paws resting near what appears to be some sort of ground up grain or nuts adds a lot of appeal to this shot. Group Hug, by Amber Dayton Not your typical wildlife pose -- I love it! The contrast of the black and white stripes is nice. I'd be tempted to crop this shot to make it zebra hindquarters from top to bottom and left to right, just to see what that would look like, butt that's just my personal opinion. The Wreck, by Leon Altoff It looks like your metering was dead-on for this shot. The rusted metal parts are rendered nicely within the dynamic range. The way the highlights of water and sky are so completely blown out gives this shot an almost surreal feeling, I think. Nice job! Driving to the Line, by Jon Hope Great action shot. You commented that you wanted a faster shutter speed, but I think the one you employed really conveys a sense of motion and captures the energy of these beasts. Sparky's First Day at the Farm, by David Brooks This is great timing on what must have been a very brief moment. The comments you provided really help tell the story. I'll bet Sparky has been much more careful ever since. I like the exposed teeth on the horse. I think the darkened area in the top 30% of the image could be cropped without losing any of the impact of this shot. I'm wondering if you played with this at all. Sam Is Not Happy, by Mark McCurdy Precious shot, and very well-composed. I'm sure you and your wife will treasure this one for many years to come. Sam looks like he's doing quite well for his first time in a chair. If you think he's not happy here, just wait until he starts teething! :-) DH/Charlottesville/May 2001, by John Mason I think this might be a bass player at an outdoor civic festival of some sort. Not sure if the background is the facade of a building, or the perhaps the arch of a bridge. The tonal range is nice -- black shirt and hat, dark musical instrument, light gray jacket, white tie. Perhaps you can give us some comments about the situation surrounding this photo? Metro, Paris, 2001, by Juan Buhler I think there is a powerful message here, but the shot would benefit from some commentary by the photographer. The static pose of the man in the foreground contrasts well with the movement of
Film scanner rental
Anyone know where I might rent a film scanner (in the US)? I need something that can scan slides for a project I've got in mind but I don't want to spend a ton of money buying something I may not use much after the project is over. If it matters, I'm in the Atlanta area. Most of the slides were taken with Pentax gear (list content) Is this a stupid idea? Thanks, Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S sales
I'm thinking that it is the pitch, which is higher than the PZ-1p, that seems loud when in fact, it is really quite reasonable. Perhaps that is it! Perhaps Pål has a hearing loss of high pitch sounds. I have that a bit as well, so this is a good camera for me. Except the General Director thinks I have enough camera's. Frits - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Buying FA 2/24 cheaply - Europe (or other lenses)
Oops! That's horrible about the DG meaning Sigma lenses are optimised for center. Can it really be? I mean 1.5x or such sensors are gonna be history in 2- 3 years, but lens design can last more than 10 years ?! Would they make enough profits this way? But I heard this from another person, too. That makes the Sigmas not wanted for me :( And they were so cheap... But always, I will test this myself in the shop with roll of film. Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: July PUG
Juan wrote: You're right, it would be interesting to see your friend in the back. BTW, this would have been a good one for next month's alternative light theme... Yeah, but I have a far better one that fits in the category... You will see it next month for sure. It's one of my favorites. May be if I tell you la saque a la luz de la luna you can guess what's it about. Regards Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Projector suggestions
you should also take a closer look at the Elmo Omnigraphic projector series. They are great machines and accept Kodak round magazines. http://www.elmousa.com/industry.asp?sec=Productsind=Education (you may copy and past the link; scroll down to Film and slide projectors) or try http://www.elmousa.com/product.asp?sec=productsprod=37 http://www.elmousa.com/product.asp?sec=productsprod=33 http://www.elmousa.com/product.asp?sec=productsprod=35 http://www.elmousa.com/product.asp?sec=productsprod=34 http://www.elmousa.com/product.asp?sec=productsprod=36 Generally, don't buy a projector that can't at least accept halogen lamps of 250W. Alexander __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Circular fish-eye lens for pentax-k -- Peleng or Sigma EX?
Hi, Thanks for your insight. May be, the reflections originate from the inner part of the lens housing ? (if the painture of inner side is not all matte). I agree, that these lenses are difficult to use; therefore,I decided in favour of the SMC-F fish-eye zoom (zooming may allow adjustments of the degree of line distorsion - this probably make the usage of the lens less difficult). However, I am still intrigued by the idea of a circular image with an angle of 180 degree view in all directions. Alexander René van Ginkel wrote: I have a Peleng, the lens is sharp but suffers a lot from internal reflections which are giving light rings on the outside of the picture circle. Its not flare but something different. The picture circle is a bit larger then the short side of a negative or slide (about 25 mm). The lens is cheap in it's kind, well build, painted instead of anodized and mine came with a Nikon adapter. When using it with a Nikon adapter you can't use it on a F-camera like the F, F2, F3 etc because there to little space for the cameramirror behind the lens (reason: backmounted filters which you have to use and are included) a Nikon FE didn't have the problem. I didnt't have problems using it on a MZ5n or a KX/MX but maybe the LX will be problematic. These kind of lenses are extremely difficult to use and a IMO a bit of a gimmick Don't know about the Sigma, its a lot more expensive. Regards, René van Ginkel - Original Message - From: Alexander Krohe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:20 PM Subject: Circular fish-eye lens for pentax-k -- Peleng or Sigma EX? Hi, In my knowledge there are two circular fish-eye lenses for Pentax-k available: the Sigma 8mm EX and the Peleng 8mm lens from an Ukrainian company. Does anyone have experiences with one of these lenses? How do they perform optically? Are they any good? Any comments are highly appreciated, Alexander __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MZ-S sales
Frits wrote: Perhaps that is it! Perhaps Pål has a hearing loss of high pitch sounds. I have that a bit as well, so this is a good camera for me. Yeah, I might have been guilty of listening to too much progressive rock at high volume. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Pentax FB-1 + FC-1 (finder base + action finder) finders for the Pentax LX
FS: Pentax FB-1 + FC-1 (finder base + action finder) finders for the Pentax LX in excellent shape in original boxes w/manual. 230USD Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Pentax-A 2X-S Converter
FS: Pentax-A 2X-S Converter in excellent shape. In original box + manual and leather case. 175USD Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: Pentax-A 2X-L Converter
FS: Pentax-A 2X-L Converter in original box with leather case w/manual. Close to mint. 280USD Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
July PUG comments
Thanks to several folks for comments about my VLA at Sunset picture. FYI, it was taken on the first roll I ever did with my ZX-5n, on outdated Tri-X, which I dropped off at the local supermarket for genuine Kodak processing, but all the pictures came back with different degrees of colour, so I have to assume it went through some kind of dye baths, but as I write this it makes less and less sense... I haven't studied all the shots for July but I was bowled over by Sparky's first day at the farm by David Brooks. You have to look at this one carefully to see what's going on! At first I though, nice running horse, then I saw the dog, and WOW! Unbelievable timing. Both facial expressions, and the diagonal of the horse, and the dog's forward diagonal, make it a picture I don't have words for. I love it. John Cohen - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: MZ-S Accys
Prices for accys in UK in GBP: PENTAX AF360FGZ169.99 PENTAX BG-10 GRIP FOR MZ-S119.99 PENTAX CS105 1M REMOTE FOR MZ-S39.99 PENTAX CS130 1.3M REMOTE FOR MZ-S49.99 PENTAX TS-110 RELEASE TIMER FOR MZ-S109.99 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Film scanner rental
Cory, A decent slide scanner cost $400+ and 15 minutes per slide for you to scan. A Kodak CD costs $5 + $1.35 per slide and the travel time for two trips to the photo store. For anything less than several hunderd slides, the CD makes the most sense to me. On a side note, the local outlet here offered a deal on scanning and 8x12 prints from slides - 8 slides for $49 US. The scans came back as 250K jpegs with 1000x1500 pixel sizes. This is much smaller than the 2400x3600 pixel scans you get on a CD. The results were quite nice printed on their 'new' Norataki (spelling) machine. They were certainly much better than the type R prints of old and something I'll consider doing again. Regards, Bob S. Regards, Bob S. Cory asked: Anyone know where I might rent a film scanner (in the US)? I need something that can scan slides for a project I've got in mind but I don't want to spend a ton of money buying something I may not use much after the project is over. If it matters, I'm in the Atlanta area. Most of the slides were taken with Pentax gear (list content) Is this a stupid idea? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Lens ???
Hello I really hope for a 17-35mm f/:2.8, not because of digital but because it will be great. Action picture for news papers (reporting) need to change easily the range and have great aperture. REmember, Minolta has a 17-35mm f/:3.5 and no Digital SLR. Some friend s of mine tell that using these 3 lens : 17-35mm f/:2.8, 28-70mm f::2.8 and 80-200mm f/:2.8, will be the most use for professionnal use. Even a 400mm f/:2.8 in FA version And when Pentax will make converteers with AF connection ? By the way, do you know that the USM using by Xanon is licencedby Nikon ??? Funny isn t it ?See you [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Frits J. Wüthrich To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: lundi 2 juillet 2001 22:24 Subject: RE: New Lens ??? I think it is up to marketing of Pentax, not their engineers to decide what models they will release (develop). What lenses do you feel are missing? Frits Does anybody heard something about a 17-35mm f/:2.8 FA ??? And about stabilisation or silent wave ??? And do you think it is going to be released a new 80-200mm f/:2.8, cheaper, without power zoom ??? Last: How can we write to Japanese Pentax engineers ? I hope to ask them to release some lens I feel missing Thanks See you [EMAIL PROTECTED]
July PUG
My fave: Pick Me by Stephen Moore. Just made me laugh when I saw the title. (It's a nice photo, too.) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
For Sale
I've got a couple of things I'm going to sell on eBay, but wanted to give the list members first shot. Pentax SMC 28-80 Power Zoom in LN- condition (KEH) - $75.00 Pentax P30t with SMC-A 50mm f/2 in EX+ condition (KEH) - $95.00 The above pricees are plus shipping and insurance via USPS Priority Mail. I can accept money orders, cashiers check or PayPal. If interested, please contact me OFF-LIST at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Computer Security
Just a tad sensitive aren't we. Given the hacker/pest threat out there, I thought it was a thoughtful, helpful light touch. Much more useful than some of the traffic I see here from time to time. Just my opinion. Otis Wright Aaron Reynolds wrote: ramadoss wrote: Please keep us updated with any important security info. Thanks. Not to be a pain, but I'd suggest that if you want security info as related to Windows machines, you should join a group dedicated to that. Not all of us here are running equipment that these notices are relevant to, and some of those who are still aren't interested in receiving them from the Pentax list. I'm sure that someone on the list can give you a couple of virus-notification lists that are worth being subscribed to. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
