Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: keith_w
Subject: Re: Talk about crap



 Sad, but true.
 My son quit school and got a job driving an ice cream truck, for money he
 couldn't have made for another 5 or 6 *YEARS* following his chosen line of
 education and work.

 Guess what? He loves it and is absolutely certain he made the right 
 choice.
 On the side, he services pools, in Phoenix. Hot job, but plenty of work, 
 and
 I've no doubt he will be making 3 times his previous projected earnings, 
 in
 LESS than 5 years!

 After all, what is it a young bread winner wants? To make enough bucks to
 support a family and have a nice home and car.
 This way he can do it. The other way, who KNOWs when he could have done 
 it?

 College and $100,000 debt is not for everyone... g

Why is it sad?
Universities have done an excellent job of brainwashing the masses into 
thinking that their brand of education is the key to happiness and a good 
job.
Enough people have bought into it that tradesmen are in really short supply, 
and are very much in demand.
I am sure that this is not universal, but around where I am, trademen are 
guaranteed to be able to work in their chosen field, make a good income, and 
have job security for life.
They also get paid while recieving their education.

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Re: FA 28-70 f4 AL

2006-07-27 Thread Lucas Rijnders
Op Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:02:00 +0200 schreef Aaron Reynolds  
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 Tell me why I'd want to keep it.

It's small, light, sharp, autofocus and it has very nice bokeh. Shoot  
something with trees/shrubbery in the background to see what I mean...

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/7/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

The 1999 Audi A6 has a 200hp, 2.8L six cylinder gasoline engine and  
is rated for 9 L/100km(about 26.1 mpg), a little less than half the  
fuel mileage you claim. That's a believable fuel economy for that  
class of car with that engine.

Is yours equipped with a diesel engine? a different gasoline engine?

I know several folks with Audi A6s made in the past 6 years. I think  
all of them would be thrilled to get 30mpg.

Not to mention the insatiable draw or luxury interior plastics.

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Re: OT: People in academics

2006-07-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/7/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Nice to have a real job again.

Congrats. A university letcher, I knew you had it in you ;-)

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/7/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

Pity they don't make a pick up truck.
That would be useful.

Been making one since 1957  (original since 1948):

Then:

http://trucks.about.com/cs/vintagetrucks/a/landrover_truck.htm

http://tinyurl.com/lfve4

Now:

http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Vehicles/Defender/Models/
Defender_single_cab_pick_up.htm

http://tinyurl.com/pq6fd

Totally utilitarian of course - you won't see many LR pick-ups without
mud under the arches or bales in the back. For comfort go for Japanese
or American  ;-)

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Re: PESO and Lens test...

2006-07-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/7/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've been thoroughly enjoying the Fawlty Towers re-runs on the telly lately.

Rosewood? Mahogany? Teak?

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread Cotty


The 1999 Audi A6 has a 200hp, 2.8L six cylinder gasoline engine and  
is rated for 9 L/100km(about 26.1 mpg), a little less than half the  
fuel mileage you claim. That's a believable fuel economy for that  
class of car with that engine.

Is yours equipped with a diesel engine? a different gasoline engine?

I know several folks with Audi A6s made in the past 6 years. I think  
all of them would be thrilled to get 30mpg.

Not to mention the insatiable draw or luxury interior plastics.

*of*, not or.

I hate typos on smart-ass quips. Sorry.

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Re: PESO and Lens test...

2006-07-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/7/06, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

I've been thoroughly enjoying the Fawlty Towers re-runs on the telly lately.

PS, this book is one of the best things you can ever leave on the
bookshelf in the downstairs loo:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0306810727/sr=1-2/qid=1153985114/
ref=sr_1_2/102-4838846-7350509?ie=UTF8s=books

http://tinyurl.com/qs2dg

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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/7/06, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed:

My son quit school and got a job driving an ice cream truck, for money he 
couldn't have made for another 5 or 6 *YEARS* following his chosen line of 
education and work.

Have you ever seen 'Thunderbolt and Lightfoot' (1974, Clint Eastwood,
Jeff Bridges) ?

;-)

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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/7/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:

I don't know how true this is, but I have heard that plumbers in England can 
pretty much charge whatever they want, some making 1/4 million pounds a 
year.

Norwegian plumbers are all off shooting porn

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4802928.stm

[office friendly]

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RE: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread Bob W
So are the Polish ones.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4115164.stm

Look at the size of his flange!

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Cotty
 Sent: 27 July 2006 08:35
 To: pentax list
 Subject: Re: Talk about crap
 
 On 26/7/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I don't know how true this is, but I have heard that 
 plumbers in England can 
 pretty much charge whatever they want, some making 1/4 
 million pounds a 
 year.
 
 Norwegian plumbers are all off shooting porn
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4802928.stm
 
 [office friendly]
 
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RE: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread DagT
I need a warning about pictures like this.  I don't want my wife to see it...

DagT

 Fra: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 So are the Polish ones.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4115164.stm
 
 Look at the size of his flange!
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Cotty
  Sent: 27 July 2006 08:35
  To: pentax list
  Subject: Re: Talk about crap
  
  On 26/7/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
  
  I don't know how true this is, but I have heard that 
  plumbers in England can 
  pretty much charge whatever they want, some making 1/4 
  million pounds a 
  year.
  
  Norwegian plumbers are all off shooting porn
  
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4802928.stm
  
  [office friendly]
  
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Extenal disc/card reader

2006-07-27 Thread mike wilson
http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/shop/detail.asp?ProductID=3528adnetwork=af#reviews

Seems like a good deal if you want something like this.

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Re: GESO - Classic Police Badges

2006-07-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/26 Wed PM 11:21:52 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO - Classic Police Badges
 
 mike wilson wrote:
 
 frank theriault wrote:
 
  On 7/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 You won't be beat, will you?
  
  He didn't want to be caught flat-footed.
  
 He has such a uniform response.  I detectI've stumbled upon something. 
 It's a bit of attorney round from his usual, special banter.
 
 Careful. You're courting disaster here...

I'll be the judge of that.


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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/26 Wed PM 11:36:54 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system
 
 On Jul 26, 2006, at 2:08 PM, mike wilson wrote:
 
  Pity it looks like a cross between a clog and Kryten's head.
 
 What are you saying about my dear friend Kryten?

He's the complicated side of the equation.
(office browsers need not apply)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4038/alaska.wav


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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/26 Wed PM 11:35:53 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Talk about crap
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: keith_w
 Subject: Re: Talk about crap
 
 
 
 
 
  I expect, no demand, that any education I pay for is valid and of use, not
  some pap that must be discarded later because not only isn't it true, but
  it
  runs against logic and science. Junk...
 
 Then send him to trade school, not university.
 We need people to make the mundane stuff like houses more than we need
 another crop of university educated buffoons.

What makes you think they would be any good at producing mundane stuff?  You 
should see the arse that is being made here of moving from one office to 
another...


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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/26 Wed PM 11:52:38 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system
 
 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 On Jul 26, 2006, at 2:08 PM, mike wilson wrote:
 
  Pity it looks like a cross between a clog and Kryten's head.
 
 What are you saying about my dear friend Kryten?
 
 He apparently hasn't seen the recent Cadillacs. I was just thinking to
 myself the other day that *those* things look as if they were styled
 after Kryten's head.

Most modern cars seem to subscribe to this latest styling fashion.  The one 
that brought it home for me was the latest Nissan Primera.  I think Ford 
started the ball rolling.


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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread Keith McGuinness
William Robb wrote:
 Sad, but true.
 My son quit school and got a job driving an ice cream truck, for money he
 couldn't have made for another 5 or 6 *YEARS* following his chosen line of
 education and work.
 
 Why is it sad?
 Universities have done an excellent job of brainwashing the masses into 
 thinking that their brand of education is the key to happiness and a good 
 job.

What I want to know is why the hell can't we brainwash the 
masses into boosting our salaries by 50% or so?

Now that would be something worth doing...

Keith perhaps I should have done psych McG


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RE: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/27 Thu AM 07:55:18 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: Talk about crap
 
 I need a warning about pictures like this.  I don't want my wife to see it...
 
 DagT

Don't worry.  He will be a lousy plumber.

 
  Fra: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  So are the Polish ones.
  
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4115164.stm
  
  Look at the size of his flange!
  
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   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
   Behalf Of Cotty
   Sent: 27 July 2006 08:35
   To: pentax list
   Subject: Re: Talk about crap
   
   On 26/7/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:
   
   I don't know how true this is, but I have heard that 
   plumbers in England can 
   pretty much charge whatever they want, some making 1/4 
   million pounds a 
   year.
   
   Norwegian plumbers are all off shooting porn
   
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4802928.stm
   
   [office friendly]
   
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PENTAX PHOTO Browser 3, PENTAX PHOTO Laboratory 3 Update

2006-07-27 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Thank you for using a PENTAX digital camera.

Please be informed that we are preparing the PENTAX PHOTO Browser 3, 
PENTAX PHOTO Laboratory 3 update.


_*Release date: 08 August, 2006*_

This Updater will support the /*istD/ series users to be able to use the 
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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread keith_w
Cotty wrote:
 On 26/7/06, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 My son quit school and got a job driving an ice cream truck, for money he 
 couldn't have made for another 5 or 6 *YEARS* following his chosen line of 
 education and work.
 
 Have you ever seen 'Thunderbolt and Lightfoot' (1974, Clint Eastwood,
 Jeff Bridges) ?
 
 ;-)

Yes, long ago...
Since I can't recall the theme, it appears it's time to get a copy again and 
review it!

Aha, I did a Google search, and NOW I recall it.
Fun movie. I'll still get it and rerun it!
Thanks for the heads up!

keith

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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread keith_w
Aaron Reynolds wrote:
 I think I know why this conversation is confusing me -- in Canada, colleges
 and universities are different animals.  You go to college for a targeted,
 practical education.  You go to university to acquire letters to place
 behind your name on your resume.
 
 -Aaron

Okay. Makes sense. I misspoke.
I meant college.

keith

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, it's in city driving that hybrid vehicles shine. Stop and go is a 
mileage killer with gas engines, but hybrids use the electric motor for 
initial acceleration. Ford's Mercury Mariner and Ford Escape are medium 
sized SUVs, yet they can get 33 mpg in city driving with the hybrid 
powertrain.
Paul
On Jul 26, 2006, at 11:19 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

 Aaron Reynolds wrote:
 Seriously?

 No wonder we're so happy with our fuel consumption in the Golf.

 -Aaron

 -Original Message-

 From:  Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Considering the Prius gets only slightly worse fuel efficiency numbers
 than a Golf TDI,


 At 49 highway MPG, it does a bit better than the Prius's actually 45 or
 so, the Prius is rated at 51, but gets around 45 actual MPG on the
 highway. Theres issues with the EPA MPG test and hybrids, as their fuel
 usage is different than what the test assumes. Note the Prius is rated
 at 60MPG in the city and the Golf TDI is only 42 (this is becuase the
 Prius burns no gas below 15km/h, running on electric only at that 
 speed)

 -Adam

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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread Bob Shell

On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:32 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 His premise is that 9/11 was staged by the US government. He claims
 that explosives, not airplanes, brought down the buildings. He's been
 on TV and in some newspapers. I suspect he's history. His vision
 isn't just different, it's absurd.

He'll find plenty of followers in the Muslim world.  Maybe he should  
move to Iraq and become the houseboy for one of the mullahs.

Bob

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Re: Extenal disc/card reader

2006-07-27 Thread Bob Shell

On Jul 27, 2006, at 4:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:

 http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/shop/detail.asp? 
 ProductID=3528adnetwork=af#reviews

 Seems like a good deal if you want something like this.

I have one of those, but the 300GB version.  Paid about US$ 200 for  
it a while back.  Keeps you from having to fool with a separate card  
reader.

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Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
580 miles in the Prius means 52 mpg (11 gallon tank). Mileage  
improves in inner city use as the electric motor gets more of the  
load, and in traffic there are virtually zero emissions ... the gas  
motor only fires up to charge the battery if it gets low, it's off  
when stopped in traffic.

Good diesels are very efficient too, although they're harder to clean  
up emissions-wise. It's a shame that they do so poorly in the US  
market ... there are a ton of superb diesel powered cars in the UK  
and Europe. I've rented them when traveling and found the performance  
and economy superb.

G

On Jul 26, 2006, at 7:24 AM, graywolf wrote:

 Hell, my 86 Escort would get up to 700 miles on a 13gal tank full. Of
 course it was a diesel. Ford claimed 38mpg but I consistently got 45
 combined, and 50-55 on the highway. Now if my S-10 would only do so  
 well
 (15 town/25 highway).


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Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-27 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Good diesels are very efficient too, although they're harder to clean
 up emissions-wise. It's a shame that they do so poorly in the US
 market ... there are a ton of superb diesel powered cars in the UK
 and Europe. I've rented them when traveling and found the performance
 and economy superb.

They sell well enough up here that VW run Diesel-specific TV ads, at 
least in Ontario and Quebec.

-Aaron

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Cotty 
Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

 Totally utilitarian of course - you won't see many LR pick-ups without
 mud under the arches or bales in the back. For comfort go for Japanese
 or American  ;-)

Loks like for load carrying, and towing capacity the same holds true.

William Robb


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Re: PENTAX PHOTO Browser 3, PENTAX PHOTO Laboratory 3 Update

2006-07-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Michel Carrère-Gée [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/27 Thu AM 09:26:46 GMT
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PENTAX PHOTO Browser 3, PENTAX PHOTO Laboratory 3 Update
 
 Thank you for using a PENTAX digital camera.
 
 Please be informed that we are preparing the PENTAX PHOTO Browser 3, 
 PENTAX PHOTO Laboratory 3 update.
 
 
 _*Release date: 08 August, 2006*_
 
 This Updater will support the /*istD/ series users to be able to use the 
 current software that attached with K100D camera, and even improved some 
 function of current software.
 
 http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/announce/20060727-01.html

According to the update for lens information, it seems likely that only K100D 
users will be able to download or use the software.
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/digital/photo_lens3.html
(Line below the table)

Also, anyone with an OS earlier than 2000/10.2 will be out of luck.

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Re: PENTAX PHOTO Browser 3, PENTAX PHOTO Laboratory 3 Update

2006-07-27 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 27.07.2006, at 16:23 , mike wilson wrote:

 According to the update for lens information, it seems likely that  
 only K100D users will be able to download or use the software.
 http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/digital/photo_lens3.html
 (Line below the table)

 Also, anyone with an OS earlier than 2000/10.2 will be out of luck.
Mike, this is update to original PPL 3 that came with K100D. Michel  
sent us link to PPL 3 update annoucement for all current PPL users,  
it will be available on 8 of august:
Release date: 08 August, 2006

This Updater will support the *istD series users to be able to use  
the current software that attached with K100D camera, and even  
improved some function of current software.

Pozdrowienia
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Re: Citations

2006-07-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele
keith_w wrote:
 

 snip snip

 
 On the other hand, anyone who thinks their name is a bit rare and unique 
only
 has to Google it to see they're quite wrong!  grin
 
 keith
 aka DK Whaley, etc., etc. most of whom are NOT me!  ;-)
 
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that the 9 pages that came up
with about 820 hits with Ann Sanfedele in quotes - all me.

(well, if you can believe similar pages the top 70 or so
are certainly me.)

Boy,we have a lot of time on our hands, don't we?

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Re: PESO: Slightly Weird

2006-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
Your right, that is weird, but i like it.

My kinda car to.:-)

Nice rich colours.

Dave B

Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I shot a car show today. Among the slightly strange things you see at
 these shows are dolls. Classic car folks position dolls looking
 through the grilles of their cars. Why? I don't know. Dolls on lawn
 chairs are popular as well. Here's an example:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4714454size=lg

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Re: PESO: Appetizing Sandwich

2006-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
Needs mayo

Dave

Quoting Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I did the RAW conversion of this shot on my laptop. Brightness is a
 guesstimate. Good looking sandwich, however. Might make some hungry.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4719800

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Martin Adler

2006-07-27 Thread Bob W
There is an obituary in today's Independent for the photojournalist
and cameraman Martin Adler, who was shot dead in Mogadishu last month.


You can follow the links to some of his photos on his agency's
website:

http://tinyurl.com/kl7y4

http://www.panos.co.uk/bin/panos.dll/go?a=dispt=us/nw-loader.htmltpl
=nw-index.html_max=0_maxlb=0

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Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
Just wondering.

I'm cut off from the site as i have to many photos uploaded(72 and i'm  
not a paying member). Unless i clear them off OR pay for a  
subscription, i'm out of luck, for now.

Just wondering, how many have ponied up the subscription $$, or do you  
just keep the maximum of 5 shots on the site.

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Re: GFM camera clinic

2006-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
I would like to go to this, but its on a bad weekend for me.
Last two years my daughter showed and this year a 3 day horse show to  
shoot. New/old venue so i didi not want to miss this one.

One day.

Are the Nikon or Pentax glass trials available at this clinic or is it  
more a NPW thing.?

Dave

Quoting Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Anyone going?

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RE: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread Tom C
I paid the $25 (I think) a year.  It's cheap and easy.  I waste more money 
than that on a daily basis ususally.

Tom C.




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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:26:57 -0400

Just wondering.

I'm cut off from the site as i have to many photos uploaded(72 and i'm
not a paying member). Unless i clear them off OR pay for a
subscription, i'm out of luck, for now.

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just keep the maximum of 5 shots on the site.

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Re: Citations

2006-07-27 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/24/2006 11:38:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You Googled 'Marnie aka Doe' and got *more* than four returns??  ;-)

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Hehehehe. Oh, if I google my handles over the years, I come up with a lot of 
chat in various groups. Too embarrassing, don't even want to look.

Don't see why I should reread the stupid things I said a year ago now. Or, 
for that matter, even a week ago.

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OTish: Mac slide show

2006-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
Hi gang.

As in 2003/4 and 2005, i have been asked by the horse banquet committe  
to do the slide show that runs during the evening.
In the past i have just resized my photos, burn the CD and run them  
through a laptop and projector, using the free vuescan slide show  
program.

This year, seeing as i have the ibook, i'm tempted to try it using  
imovie. I have made one small movie as a test over Xmas last year, but  
i just want to ask,
If i run it from the mac, is all i need to do is install any  
projectore software to run it.
Also, and i think i know this is yes, but it should run via a PC if  
need be, correct.
I don't know if i'll add music, not sure if we can get speakers for it  
to be worth while, but maybe i should any way.

Any helpfull or encouraging comments on this

I have until Sept 30.

Dave

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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/7/06, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed:

 
 Have you ever seen 'Thunderbolt and Lightfoot' (1974, Clint Eastwood,
 Jeff Bridges) ?
 
 ;-)

Yes, long ago...
Since I can't recall the theme, it appears it's time to get a copy again and 
review it!

Aha, I did a Google search, and NOW I recall it.
Fun movie. I'll still get it and rerun it!
Thanks for the heads up!

There's a few comical scenes where one of the robbers poses as an ice
cream vendor ;-)

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Re: Talk about crap

2006-07-27 Thread keith_w
Cotty wrote:
 On 27/7/06, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Have you ever seen 'Thunderbolt and Lightfoot' (1974, Clint Eastwood,
 Jeff Bridges) ?

 ;-)

 Yes, long ago...
 Since I can't recall the theme, it appears it's time to get a copy again and 
 review it!

 Aha, I did a Google search, and NOW I recall it.
 Fun movie. I'll still get it and rerun it!
 Thanks for the heads up!


 There's a few comical scenes where one of the robbers poses as an ice
 cream vendor ;-)

Ah yes!
My son would get a kick out of it, too.
However, he drives a refrigerated truck that delivers bulk ice cream and milk 
to businesses and schools.

keith

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RE: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I paid the $25 (I think) a year.  It's cheap and easy.

Ya $25.00 is not much is suppose, for what you get.

 I waste more money  than that on a daily basis ususally.

LOL. Welcome to the club.

Dave

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 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:26:57 -0400

 Just wondering.

 I'm cut off from the site as i have to many photos uploaded(72 and i'm
 not a paying member). Unless i clear them off OR pay for a
 subscription, i'm out of luck, for now.

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Re: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 27, 2006, at 8:26 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Just wondering.

 I'm cut off from the site as i have to many photos uploaded(72 and i'm
 not a paying member). Unless i clear them off OR pay for a
 subscription, i'm out of luck, for now.

 Just wondering, how many have ponied up the subscription $$, or do you
 just keep the maximum of 5 shots on the site.


I have only a free account on photo.net and don't use it as a  
repository for my web pictures.

I much prefer to have my own domain and webserver that I control the  
HTML content of explicitly, and the price (paid in advance) for five  
years lease on the domain name plus email plus 30G of storage space  
plus webserver, web development support, ftp, etc etc was only $280.

I also get storage space (1G default, expandable up to 10G) and  
webserver capabilities (plus email, web-mail interface, backup  
software, integrated network storage, etc) with my mac.com accounts  
(both ramarren and godders) at $8/month, paid in advance annually.  
Only thing not provided with that service is the internet service,  
which costs as little as $12/month as part of my cable or phone  
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Re: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread Rick Womer
I paid.  It's not expensive.

Rick

--- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just wondering.
 
 I'm cut off from the site as i have to many photos
 uploaded(72 and i'm  
 not a paying member). Unless i clear them off OR pay
 for a  
 subscription, i'm out of luck, for now.
 
 Just wondering, how many have ponied up the
 subscription $$, or do you  
 just keep the maximum of 5 shots on the site.
 
 Dave
 
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Re: OTish: Mac slide show

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 27, 2006, at 9:04 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 As in 2003/4 and 2005, i have been asked by the horse banquet committe
 to do the slide show that runs during the evening.

 In the past i have just resized my photos, burn the CD and run them
 through a laptop and projector, using the free vuescan slide show
 program.

 This year, seeing as i have the ibook, i'm tempted to try it using
 imovie. I have made one small movie as a test over Xmas last year, but
 i just want to ask, if i run it from the mac, is all i need to do  
 is install any
 projectore software to run it.
 Also, and i think i know this is yes, but it should run via a PC if
 need be, correct.
 I don't know if i'll add music, not sure if we can get speakers for it
 to be worth while, but maybe i should any way.

Best thing to do is to output the slide show to a DVD that can be  
played with anything that can attach to a projector, whether it be an  
off the shelf DVD player, Mac OS X or Windows laptop with a DVD drive  
in it.

iMovie and iPhoto work together with iDVD to master the DVD. You can  
use iTunes to integrate music or other sound into the iMovie project,  
or import them directly.

Of course, if you're getting fancy about it, there are more  
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Re: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread Rick Womer
Godfrey,

All good points, but some of us have neither the time
nor the inclination to learn this stuff.  Dealing with
PSE4, Bridge, and CameraRaw instead of just sorting
slides on my lightbox is enough for me!

Rick

--- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jul 27, 2006, at 8:26 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
  Just wondering.
 
  I'm cut off from the site as i have to many photos
 uploaded(72 and i'm
  not a paying member). Unless i clear them off OR
 pay for a
  subscription, i'm out of luck, for now.
 
  Just wondering, how many have ponied up the
 subscription $$, or do you
  just keep the maximum of 5 shots on the site.
 
 
 I have only a free account on photo.net and don't
 use it as a  
 repository for my web pictures.
 
 I much prefer to have my own domain and webserver
 that I control the  
 HTML content of explicitly, and the price (paid in
 advance) for five  
 years lease on the domain name plus email plus 30G
 of storage space  
 plus webserver, web development support, ftp, etc
 etc was only $280.
 
 I also get storage space (1G default, expandable up
 to 10G) and  
 webserver capabilities (plus email, web-mail
 interface, backup  
 software, integrated network storage, etc) with my
 mac.com accounts  
 (both ramarren and godders) at $8/month, paid in
 advance annually.  
 Only thing not provided with that service is the
 internet service,  
 which costs as little as $12/month as part of my
 cable or phone  
 service to the apartment. For casual users, that's
 more than adequate.
 
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Re: Re; funny K10D story

2006-07-27 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:45:56PM -0600, Joseph Tainter wrote:
 It takes AA batteries -- that was one of the things he himself was 
 interested in knowing.
 
 He's cagey about the name and is probably not supposed to say anything 
 about it.  He takes great pains to not call it the K10D, for whatever 
 that's worth.
 
 -Aaron
 
 -
 
 Thanks again, Aaron.
 
 Now the question is: which camera did he handle? By some reports there 
 will be two 10 mp cameras -- a D replacement and a DS replacement. But 
 it looked like the D replacement was going to be released first. It has 
 been shown. A DS replacement hasn't.
 
 But I'm feeling better. There will be a 10 mp camera with shake 
 reduction that takes disposable batteries. I just hope it has the 
 controls of the D.

All the mock-ups we've seen have had the two-wheel control layout.
I'm pretty sure that the interview with the Pentax high-up mentioned
a vertical grip, as well.  The only unanswered question that I'm
bothered about is whether it manages 4fps or better for at least
2 frames.  Other things (PC socket, USM focussing, ...) interest
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Re: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread pnstenquist
I pay the annual dues. In fact, I'm payed up for about five years. I like 
photo.net for a number of reasons. It's certainly an easy way to maintain a 
decent looking portfolio page with a minimum of effort. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Just wondering.
 
 I'm cut off from the site as i have to many photos uploaded(72 and i'm  
 not a paying member). Unless i clear them off OR pay for a  
 subscription, i'm out of luck, for now.
 
 Just wondering, how many have ponied up the subscription $$, or do you  
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Re: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread pnstenquist
Of course photo.net can be used as a portfolio. It even provides a means for 
contact. I have a domain name (pnstenquist.com) assigned to my photo.net page. 

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From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:07 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
  Godfrey,
 
  All good points, but some of us have neither the time
  nor the inclination to learn this stuff.  Dealing with
  PSE4, Bridge, and CameraRaw instead of just sorting
  slides on my lightbox is enough for me!
 
  Rick
 
 That may be true, Rick, but I was responding to Dave with the notion  
 that he is a photographer running a business, not a hobbyist enjoying  
 the art of photography. If you are serious about doing photography as  
 a business today, you must learn to use the web to your advantage. It  
 is a communications tool of extraordinary value.
 
 I get more people calling me because they like the photos I post to  
 the web than through any other means, and I've been exhibiting every  
 month since March this year. And I haven't really even started  
 pushing the web communications to the extent that it is capable.
 
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Re: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:07 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
 Godfrey,

 All good points, but some of us have neither the time
 nor the inclination to learn this stuff.  Dealing with
 PSE4, Bridge, and CameraRaw instead of just sorting
 slides on my lightbox is enough for me!

 Rick

That may be true, Rick, but I was responding to Dave with the notion  
that he is a photographer running a business, not a hobbyist enjoying  
the art of photography. If you are serious about doing photography as  
a business today, you must learn to use the web to your advantage. It  
is a communications tool of extraordinary value.

I get more people calling me because they like the photos I post to  
the web than through any other means, and I've been exhibiting every  
month since March this year. And I haven't really even started  
pushing the web communications to the extent that it is capable.

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Re: OTish: Mac slide show

2006-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Best thing to do is to output the slide show to a DVD that can be
 played with anything that can attach to a projector, whether it be an
 off the shelf DVD player, Mac OS X or Windows laptop with a DVD drive
 in it.

So, if we have a normal dvd player, it can have the projector attached  
to play the show, do real need for the laptops.??

 iMovie and iPhoto work together with iDVD to master the DVD. You can
 use iTunes to integrate music or other sound into the iMovie project,
 or import them directly.

I didi a small show of about 25 pictures of a baby shower at Xmas time  
and the couple has yet to play it, but i'll assume what i did worked.:-)
I watch a show from Vancouver sometimes, Dotto's Cafe, and he shows  
how to work both Mac and PC programs. He didi a piece on imovie to  
idvd but i forget some of the transitions. I can buy a DVD of his  
season III which has that on. Maybe i should.

 Of course, if you're getting fancy about it, there are more
 sophisticated tools available like Final Cut Express, etc.

Not yet.vbg

Dave

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Re: OTish: Mac slide show

2006-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
Forgot this.

I'll have about 3000 or more pictures to put into this slide show.  
When i did the baby shower one, i placed each of the 25 pictures in  
the area one at a time, and st the transition and fades etc. This  
could take some time to do then, unless there is some automated  
features.

Hopefully imovie help is choke full of goodies, or maybe buy a book.

Dave

Quoting David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Best thing to do is to output the slide show to a DVD that can be
 played with anything that can attach to a projector, whether it be an
 off the shelf DVD player, Mac OS X or Windows laptop with a DVD drive
 in it.

 So, if we have a normal dvd player, it can have the projector attached
 to play the show, do real need for the laptops.??

 iMovie and iPhoto work together with iDVD to master the DVD. You can
 use iTunes to integrate music or other sound into the iMovie project,
 or import them directly.

 I didi a small show of about 25 pictures of a baby shower at Xmas time
 and the couple has yet to play it, but i'll assume what i did worked.:-)
 I watch a show from Vancouver sometimes, Dotto's Cafe, and he shows
 how to work both Mac and PC programs. He didi a piece on imovie to
 idvd but i forget some of the transitions. I can buy a DVD of his
 season III which has that on. Maybe i should.

 Of course, if you're getting fancy about it, there are more
 sophisticated tools available like Final Cut Express, etc.

 Not yet.vbg

 Dave

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Re: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread David J Brooks
Quoting Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Jul 27, 2006, at 8:26 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Just wondering.

 I'm cut off from the site as i have to many photos uploaded(72 and i'm
 not a paying member). Unless i clear them off OR pay for a
 subscription, i'm out of luck, for now.

 Just wondering, how many have ponied up the subscription $$, or do you
 just keep the maximum of 5 shots on the site.


 I have only a free account on photo.net and don't use it as a
 repository for my web pictures.

Its mainly for a sharing feature. Showing Paws and what not. I don't  
have a lot of spare room on my normal website, so i like to put casual  
shots somewere else, as i tend to forget them and leave them on  
forever.:-)

 I much prefer to have my own domain and webserver that I control the
 HTML content of explicitly, and the price (paid in advance) for five
 years lease on the domain name plus email plus 30G of storage space
 plus webserver, web development support, ftp, etc etc was only $280.

Phewww. My caughtinmotion has 100mb and 20 mg for email and i pay  
around $300 per year.

 I also get storage space (1G default, expandable up to 10G) and
 webserver capabilities (plus email, web-mail interface, backup
 software, integrated network storage, etc) with my mac.com accounts
 (both ramarren and godders) at $8/month, paid in advance annually.

I have a .mac account, but have not used it. I quess i should. I keep  
forgetting its available.

 Only thing not provided with that service is the internet service,
 which costs as little as $12/month as part of my cable or phone
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Re: OTish: Mac slide show

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 So, if we have a normal dvd player, it can have the projector attached
 to play the show, no real need for the laptops.??

I don't know of any projectors that do not take an RGB composite  
input signal (either PAL or NTSC, or both), nor any DVD Players that  
do not have an RGB composite output ... So the answer is that once  
the presentation is rendered to a DVD, be sure that the DVD player  
you're going to play it on can read it. After that, it's up to you to  
figure out how to connect up the player and the projector.

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PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread Jack Davis
Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre PS)
Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
Would truly appreciate your reaction.

Thanks,

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Re: OTish: Mac slide show

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'd buy a book if I were you. I have too little experience with  
iMovie to offer more advice knowledgeably. My own use of iMovie and  
iDVD has been fairly light weight thus far, although I'm beginning to  
get involved with doing more integrated still/video/music projects.

Godfrey

On Jul 27, 2006, at 11:24 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Forgot this.

 I'll have about 3000 or more pictures to put into this slide show.
 When i did the baby shower one, i placed each of the 25 pictures in
 the area one at a time, and st the transition and fades etc. This
 could take some time to do then, unless there is some automated
 features.

 Hopefully imovie help is choke full of goodies, or maybe buy a book.

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RE: PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread Tom C
That sir, is a truly beautiful image.  I think I like it the best of 
anything you've ever shared!

Tom C.




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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT)

Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre PS)
Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
Would truly appreciate your reaction.

Thanks,

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Re: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 27, 2006, at 11:34 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Its mainly for a sharing feature. Showing Paws and what not. I don't
 have a lot of spare room on my normal website, so i like to put casual
 shots somewere else, as i tend to forget them and leave them on
 forever.:-)

 I also get storage space (1G default, expandable up to 10G) and
 webserver capabilities (plus email, web-mail interface, backup
 software, integrated network storage, etc) with my mac.com accounts
 (both ramarren and godders) at $8/month, paid in advance annually.

 I have a .mac account, but have not used it. I quess i should. I keep
 forgetting its available.

You should use your .Mac account for those things, since you already  
have the service and it is perfectly capable for that intent. Access  
to it is built into Mac OS X, and there's also an application  
provided by Apple that would allow you access to it from your Windows  
system.

 I much prefer to have my own domain and webserver that I control the
 HTML content of explicitly, and the price (paid in advance) for five
 years lease on the domain name plus email plus 30G of storage space
 plus webserver, web development support, ftp, etc etc was only $280.

 Phewww. My caughtinmotion has 100mb and 20 mg for email and i pay
 around $300 per year.

You should look into rehosting your domain. I'm using godaddy.com,  
they were very helpful and the pricing was very good.

Godfrey

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RE: PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread Tom C
Sorry for this...I didn't notice at first.  A slight crop on the left to rid 
it of the distracting element 1/3 up from the bottom would make it perfect.

Outstanding.

Tom C.




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Subject: PESO: Awaiting Spring
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT)

Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre PS)
Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
Would truly appreciate your reaction.

Thanks,

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RE: PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread Bob W
That's a beautiful photo. I don't really approve of special effects
filters, but it's very effective in this case. The composition of the
photo is perfect. Lovely scene. Could be somewhere in Britain.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
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 Sent: 27 July 2006 19:49
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Awaiting Spring
 
 Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
 foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
 Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre
PS)
 Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
 Would truly appreciate your reaction.
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, very nice. Great sky and an interesting foreground. This is an example of 
a shot where a nearly equally split frame works well.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 That sir, is a truly beautiful image.  I think I like it the best of 
 anything you've ever shared!
 
 Tom C.
 
 
 
 
 From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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 Subject: PESO: Awaiting Spring
 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT)
 
 Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
 foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
 Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre PS)
 Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
 Would truly appreciate your reaction.
 
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Re: OT: People in academics

2006-07-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

You got a job in a university and you call that a real job ???

Well sort of. Half, anyway: There's a considerable separation from
reality, so the real part is somewhat dubious. But I've taught a
college course before, and my mother spent here career as a college
professor, so I'm well aware of the enormity of the job part of the
deal. Lotsa work involved...

There's a whole lot of serendipity involved in my getting this job. I
picked up the Sunday (July 16) Pittsburgh Post-Gazette classified ads
on Monday morning after a busy Sunday. I noticed this teaching
position at Youngstown State University (in Ohio) that looked
tailor-made for me so I made a note to apply for it. It hadn't been in
the previous week's paper so I didn't think there would be any urgency
about it, even though something in the back of my mind thought it was
late in the year for this kind of position to be advertised. 

I didn't get around to preparing my application materials until
Tuesday afternoon, at which point I noticed that the application
deadline was Wednesday, July 19 - the next day! I continued scrambling
to get materials together and zapped off a quick email to them asking
if it was OK to apply via email or if they wanted hard copy (I
mentioned, while hoping not to sound too desperate, that I'd be
willing to drive up Wednesday if necessary). On Wednesday morning I
got a reply saying email would be fine (I was just getting ready to
get in my car to drive up there) so I sent of an email with a ton of
attachments.

On Thursday morning I got a phone call asking if I could come up to
interview and give a brief demonstration lecture on Tuesday.

So I spent the weekend preparing my presentation and drove up Tuesday
morning. The woman who had led the search committee recognized me from
my web page head shot (thanks Cesar!) and I discovered that she:

Also lives in Pittsburgh and commutes to Youngstown
And lives less than two miles from me
Did the same master's program at Duquesne University that I did
And her husband teaches at Duquesne
And that she knows the guy with whom I taught the sound course at
Duquesne last year

Anyway, my presentation wen *very* well on Tuesday and they called me
at 9:00 Wednesday morning and offered me the job!

Job officially starts on Aug 16 (classes begin Aug 28) but I'm going
to be up to my eyeballs in preparation until then. I suspect the
teaching workload with new (to me) classes will severely cut down my
PDML participation time from now on. Whether that's good or bad is
another matter ;-)
 
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Re: OTish: Mac slide show

2006-07-27 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:54 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

  

So, if we have a normal dvd player, it can have the projector attached
to play the show, no real need for the laptops.??



I don't know of any projectors that do not take an RGB composite  
input signal (either PAL or NTSC, or both), nor any DVD Players that  
do not have an RGB composite output ... So the answer is that once  
the presentation is rendered to a DVD, be sure that the DVD player  
you're going to play it on can read it. After that, it's up to you to  
figure out how to connect up the player and the projector.
  

You should really say just composite.  RGB composite makes no 
sense;   composite video is baseband video (y/c) not RGB.   An RGB 
signal is any scan rate, sent analog over distinct circuits- think VGA 
at 15kHz for example.

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hack for aperture and iphoto

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Mac OS X users with Pentax *ist D and DL cameras can do RAW  
processing with current* versions of iPhoto and Aperture, but DS,  
DS2, DL2 cameras are not supported. The following is a link to  
instructions on how to modify things for the missing models:

*** WARNING: MODIFYING SYSTEM FILES LIKE THIS ALWAYS POSES SOME RISK.  
BACKUP THE ORIGINAL. ***

http://ok1000.blogspot.com/2006/06/waiting-for-aperture-and- 
iphoto.html

I tried the hack and it seems to work with iPhoto for the DS model.

enjoy
Godfrey

* current means Mac OS X v10.4.7 and Aperture 1.1.1, iPhoto 6.0.4. 

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Re: PENTAX PHOTO Browser 3, PENTAX PHOTO Laboratory 3 Update

2006-07-27 Thread mike wilson
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

 On 27.07.2006, at 16:23 , mike wilson wrote:
 
 
According to the update for lens information, it seems likely that  
only K100D users will be able to download or use the software.
http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/support/digital/photo_lens3.html
(Line below the table)

Also, anyone with an OS earlier than 2000/10.2 will be out of luck.
 
 Mike, this is update to original PPL 3 that came with K100D. Michel  
 sent us link to PPL 3 update annoucement for all current PPL users,  
 it will be available on 8 of august:
 Release date: 08 August, 2006
 
 This Updater will support the *istD series users to be able to use  
 the current software that attached with K100D camera, and even  
 improved some function of current software.

Only if their OS software is from this century, though... 8-)

 
 Pozdrowienia
 Sylwek

Dzieki,

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Re: Photo dot Net question. Subscribe or not.

2006-07-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 7/27/06, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just wondering.

 I'm cut off from the site as i have to many photos uploaded(72 and i'm
 not a paying member). Unless i clear them off OR pay for a
 subscription, i'm out of luck, for now.

 Just wondering, how many have ponied up the subscription $$, or do you
 just keep the maximum of 5 shots on the site.

If you spend some time critiquing others' photo, they will increase
your storage quota.

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PESO -- Day Lilly

2006-07-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Been off the list for a few days, (off my feet for a few days, blew out 
my knee, but that's another story, it's been just too hot to hobble 
around in a knee brace if I didn't need to, that includes walking across 
a room to sit at a computer).  I was looking at a few shots I took last 
year and decided I actually liked this one.

http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_daylilly.html

Technical Info.:
Pentax *ist-D ISO 200 @ 1/350sec (M)
vmc Vivitar 35-85mm f2.8 Varifocal @ ~f8.0

As usual, comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: OTish: Mac slide show

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 27, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Ryan K. Brooks wrote:

 You should really say just composite.  RGB composite makes no
 sense;   composite video is baseband video (y/c) not RGB.   An RGB
 signal is any scan rate, sent analog over distinct circuits- think VGA
 at 15kHz for example.

Ok, I believe you.

I'm just reading out of my Panasonic television and Pioneer DVD  
player manuals: they use the term RGB Composite Video.

Godfrey

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Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-27 Thread P. J. Alling
How did I know...

Cotty wrote:

On 23/7/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

  

Actually Brazil seems to be doing well on ethanol, but I don't know what 
they're using as a feed stock, probably cutting down the rain forest.



Correct.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3024636.stm

  



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RE: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 580 miles in the Prius means 52 mpg (11 gallon tank). Mileage
 improves in inner city use as the electric motor gets more of the
 load, and in traffic there are virtually zero emissions ... the gas
 motor only fires up to charge the battery if it gets low, it's off
 when stopped in traffic.

What happens to the air-con when stuck in traffic?

Kostas

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Re: GESO - Classic Police Badges

2006-07-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/07/26 Wed PM 11:21:52 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: GESO - Classic Police Badges

 mike wilson wrote:

 frank theriault wrote:

 On 7/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You won't be beat, will you?

 He didn't want to be caught flat-footed.

 He has such a uniform response.  I detectI've stumbled upon something.
 It's a bit of attorney round from his usual, special banter.

 Careful. You're courting disaster here...

 I'll be the judge of that.

Has good Old Bill contributed to this thread yet?

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Re: OT: People in academics

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 27, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 You got a job in a university and you call that a real job ???

 Well sort of. Half, anyway: There's a considerable separation from
 reality, so the real part is somewhat dubious. ...

Good stuff, Mark! Congratulations again.

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Enablement: 10~17mm Fisheye

2006-07-27 Thread Walter Hamler
At least I hope so, ie, Enablement!
I ordered it today from Ritz Camera. They had to special order and it may 
take 4 to 6 weeks.

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RE: PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks Tom,
Actually I downloaded this from my site. (laziness). I had re-burned
this image some time back and, in so doing, got rid of that bit of
fence.
Remarks seriously appreciated.

Jack

--- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry for this...I didn't notice at first.  A slight crop on the left
 to rid 
 it of the distracting element 1/3 up from the bottom would make it
 perfect.
 
 Outstanding.
 
 Tom C.
 
 
 
 
 From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Awaiting Spring
 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT)
 
 Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
 foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
 Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre
 PS)
 Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
 Would truly appreciate your reaction.
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread Jack Davis
Much appreciated, thoughtful remarks. Thanks!

Jack

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, very nice. Great sky and an interesting foreground. This is an
 example of a shot where a nearly equally split frame works well.
 Paul
  -- Original message --
 From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  That sir, is a truly beautiful image.  I think I like it the best
 of 
  anything you've ever shared!
  
  Tom C.
  
  
  
  
  From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  To: pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: PESO: Awaiting Spring
  Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT)
  
  Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
  foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
  Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre
 PS)
  Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
  Would truly appreciate your reaction.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jack
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=151
  
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RE: PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks so much! If I were to do it today, I'd likely use the burn tool.
Felt especially lucky when the effect turned out to be manageable in a
wet lab.

Jack

--- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's a beautiful photo. I don't really approve of special effects
 filters, but it's very effective in this case. The composition of the
 photo is perfect. Lovely scene. Could be somewhere in Britain.
 
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 Cheers,
  Bob 
 
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  Behalf Of Jack Davis
  Sent: 27 July 2006 19:49
  To: pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: PESO: Awaiting Spring
  
  Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
  foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
  Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre
 PS)
  Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
  Would truly appreciate your reaction.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jack
  
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Re: GESO - Classic Police Badges

2006-07-27 Thread mike wilson
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote:
 
 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/07/26 Wed PM 11:21:52 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: GESO - Classic Police Badges

mike wilson wrote:


frank theriault wrote:


On 7/26/06, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You won't be beat, will you?

He didn't want to be caught flat-footed.


He has such a uniform response.  I detectI've stumbled upon something.
It's a bit of attorney round from his usual, special banter.

Careful. You're courting disaster here...

I'll be the judge of that.
 
 
 Has good Old Bill contributed to this thread yet?

Last I heard, his Dixon the line.
( http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/D/htmlD/dixonofdock/dixonofdock.htm )

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Re: PESO -- Day Lilly

2006-07-27 Thread Jack Davis
Me too. Background compliments it. A bit of left edge cropping might
balance it some better and make it even stronger.
Well done. Glad you hobbled over to the computer.

Jack

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 a room to sit at a computer).  I was looking at a few shots I took
 last 
 year and decided I actually liked this one.
 
 http://www.mindspring.com/~megazip/PESO_--_daylilly.html
 
 Technical Info.:
 Pentax *ist-D ISO 200 @ 1/350sec (M)
 vmc Vivitar 35-85mm f2.8 Varifocal @ ~f8.0
 
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Re: hack for aperture and iphoto

2006-07-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 27, 2006, at 15:08, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Mac OS X users with Pentax *ist D and DL cameras can do RAW
 processing with current* versions of iPhoto and Aperture, but DS,
 DS2, DL2 cameras are not supported. The following is a link to
 instructions on how to modify things for the missing models:

 *** WARNING: MODIFYING SYSTEM FILES LIKE THIS ALWAYS POSES SOME RISK.
 BACKUP THE ORIGINAL. ***

 http://ok1000.blogspot.com/2006/06/waiting-for-aperture-and-
 iphoto.html

 I tried the hack and it seems to work with iPhoto for the DS model.


I took the plunge and tried this about a month ago and it seems to  
work.  Nice to have RAW treated more-or-less natively now (although  
the workflow of editing RAW files with Photoshop yet maintaining any  
sort of index in iPhoto is cumbersome/difficult at best!)

But it is nice to have the RAW files recognized by the O/S.

  -Charles

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So what is the value of a used *ist-DS?

2006-07-27 Thread Charles Robinson
I just got a couple photos published (nothing special, just snapshots  
of twins from the annual Twins Days Festival that I attend each year  
with my brother) and find that I'm suddenly halfway there to having  
enough money to buy a K100D.

That's cool!

I'm trying to make a plan that is agreeable with the wife.  Heck, I'm  
just happy she agreed that photo money could be saved for my  
camera upgrade fund!  Anyone have a clue what I could expect to  
make from a sale?

So is there a chance in hell that a DS is worth $300 used?  I  
suppose nobody would buy it without a lens attached so I'll have to  
either sell it with the KIT lens on there or... or.

  -Charles

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K100D Has Arrived at BH

2006-07-27 Thread Shel Belinkoff
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Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-27 Thread Carlos Royo
Cotty wrote:
 On 23/7/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Actually Brazil seems to be doing well on ethanol, but I don't know what 
 they're using as a feed stock, probably cutting down the rain forest.
 
 Correct.
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3024636.stm
 

Not correct,Brazil's ethanol comes from sugar cane plantations.They've 
had that programme running for decades, since the end of the 
70's/beginning of the 80's (I was living in Brazil then).The programme 
slowed down in the late 80's when oil was cheaper and Brazil increased 
its oil output, but it has been revived in the last few years.
The ongoing deforestation in the Amazon basin doesn't have anything to 
do with ethanol production.
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Re: OT: People in academics

2006-07-27 Thread frank theriault
On 7/26/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...as of today I are one myself :)

 I just accepted a position at a university near Pittsburgh. Not near
 *enough*, in my view (about 60 miles away) but it'll have to do for
 the time being!

 Nice to have a real job again.


Excellent!  It's close enough you'll be able to commute by bike - at
least while the weather's good.  g

Great big congrats, Mark!

cheers,
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Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Hum, so you did a google search, did you find these numbers, broken down 
by ethnic groups.  This takes a little work so bear with me.

The current Ethnic makeup of the US is   80.4% White which includes 
White Hispanics
 12.8% Black which includes 
Black Hispanics
  6.8% Other Chinese, American 
Indian, Indian, etc., which includes of course Other Hispanics.

Hispanics can be of any ethnic group but their overall birthrate differs 
from the larger ethnic group they belong to due to cultural differences 
so I'll correct for that, (there are more nuances but I didn't bother 
looking for more data).

Total Hispanics of all ethnic groups is  14.1%

The population replacement birth rate is 2.1 live births per couple over 
a lifetime. 

Now lets look at birth rates by ethnicity.

Birth Rate Non Hispanic White 1.7
   Non Hispanic Black 2.5
   Non Hispanic Other 2.5

   Hispanic (over all)  3.9  This is the outlier but as I said 
I'll make allowances.

Lets keep this simple by estimating a weighted average.

14.1% of 80.4% ~ 11.34% (Hispanic White) ~ 68.70% Non Hispanic White
14.1% of 12.8% ~  1.80% (Hispanic Black) ~ 11.00% Non Hispanic Black
14.1% of  6.8% ~  0.96% (Hispanic Other) ~  6.14% Non Hispanic Other

Total14.10% (Hispanic) 84.84% (Everybody else) Which 
equals ~100% This tells me that, given rounding errors, my Math so far 
is at least half right!

Now 1.7 * 68.7%  = 1.17 (White NH)
2.5 * 11.0%  =  .28
2.5 *  6.1   =  .15
3.9 * 14.1   =  .56
Total  2.16

I come out with a over all birth rate just over replacement for current 
residents!  considering that I don't know the exact break down of 
Hispanic White, vs Hispanic Black vs Hispanic Other I'm I think I'm 
pretty close to zero population growth.  I'll give myself the benefit of 
the doubt and say my sigma is +/- .06 live births per couple over all in 
the population.  The increase in US population is almost entirely, if 
not entirely, due to in immigration.  True we are seeing a shift in 
native born population over time, to a more Catholic and Hispanic 
heritage, with a minor shift to more a non white over all, group.  But 
you can't really blame the current native born population for run away 
population growth in the US.  Unless you can find better numbers than I 
could find.

If you can do simple math you can figure things out for yourself. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Searching the Net I have found nothing to indicate that the US population 
growth has slowed to 0. Overall growth has slowed, but the population is still 
growing by quite a bit. A major surge occurred in the 1990's. Anyone curious 
can 
check census bureau facts.

Also, in almost all areas US imports exceed US exports.

A simple google search will turn this stuff up.

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Re: OT: People in academics

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:34 PM, frank theriault wrote:

  (about 60 miles away)

 Excellent!  It's close enough you'll be able to commute by bike - at
 least while the weather's good.  g

Hmm. Methinks I need to get my legs in *much* better shape if you  
think 60 miles is commute distance!!!

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 27, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

 What happens to the air-con when stuck in traffic?

I'm wondering that myself.

I was over at the dealership the other evening when the first one  
came in for me (a long story ...) looking it over.

Since it was nearly 110 degrees F, we were sitting in the car with  
the power on, AC on. Blowers going, the car cooled down very quickly  
to a comfortable temperature and the AC kept things nice on its Auto  
setting. The drive batteries were relatively depleted. We were there  
going through all the gizmos on the fancy display for about an hour.  
About every ten minutes, the engine would start and run for two  
minutes, then shut down again.

I conjecture that the AC compressor is driven by the auxiliary drive/ 
generating motor. Since it consumes a lot less energy to drive just  
the compressor, even a low charge in the drive batteries is enough to  
keep the AC up nicely. Once the drive batteries fall below a certain  
charge threshold, the gas engine turns on to charge it up. (That same  
drive/generating motor also operates as the engine starter ... and  
there is no gas engine powered reverse gear, reverse is all done  
electrically.)

It is a fascinating car, something that I'll have a grand time  
studying. Mine (the second one) should be delivered August 5-10.  
Can't wait!

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Re: So what is the value of a used *ist-DS?

2006-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

 So is there a chance in hell that a DS is worth $300 used?  I
 suppose nobody would buy it without a lens attached so I'll have to
 either sell it with the KIT lens on there or... or.

Just put the *ist DS body on Ebay with a reasonable reserve and see  
what the offers for it come to.

I bet someone will pay $400 for it.  :-)

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Re: OT: People in academics

2006-07-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Jul 27, 2006, at 2:34 PM, frank theriault wrote:

  (about 60 miles away)

 Excellent!  It's close enough you'll be able to commute by bike - at
 least while the weather's good.  g

Hmm. Methinks I need to get my legs in *much* better shape if you  
think 60 miles is commute distance!!!

Depends on your definition of bike. I've just started getting my
Honda VFR ready to go back on the road.
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Re: So what is the value of a used *ist-DS?

2006-07-27 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm suddenly halfway there to having  
 enough money to buy a K100D.
 
 That's cool!

Wait until you can put both cameras side by side and compare their
viewfinders.

THEN you'll know if it's really that cool.

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Re: So what is the value of a used *ist-DS?

2006-07-27 Thread Aaron Reynolds
A word of caution: the K100D is something of a sidegrade from the DS, at least 
on paper.  The big plus being anti-shake, of course.

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread Scott Loveless
On 7/27/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: Cotty
 Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

  Totally utilitarian of course - you won't see many LR pick-ups without
  mud under the arches or bales in the back. For comfort go for Japanese
  or American  ;-)

 Loks like for load carrying, and towing capacity the same holds true.


Yeah, but you get half the reliability of a Nissan at only twice the
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Re: So what is the value of a used *ist-DS?

2006-07-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 27, 2006, at 17:33, Aaron Reynolds wrote:

 A word of caution: the K100D is something of a sidegrade from the  
 DS, at least on paper.  The big plus being anti-shake, of course.


..and faster autofocus.  That's a biggie for me.  Would be nice to  
have autofocus that WORKS because in most of the situations that I've  
been in, I've not been able to count on the autofocus and I've gone  
to manual.  Which is fine, but gosh - it would be nice to have  
something that could snap the image into focus automatically,  
wouldn't it?  Something quicker than whirr-whirr. stutter- 
whirr.. stutter.  Man, it's slow in less-than-brilliant lighting!

Seriously, those two advantages alone make it desirable for me.
Besides, by the time I'm ready to jump the K10D (or whatever) will be  
out and I'll know if that's what I'd rather be saving for.  So far I  
don't see it as something I want/need but who knows?

  -Charles

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Re: K100D Has Arrived at BH

2006-07-27 Thread japilado
Good to read.  Now to wait for the positives and negatives of the K100D
before I make a decision.

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Re: So what is the value of a used *ist-DS?

2006-07-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 27, 2006, at 17:24, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:


 Wait until you can put both cameras side by side and compare their
 viewfinders.

 THEN you'll know if it's really that cool.


Yeah, I've got my fingers crossed in that regard.   Won't sell off  
the old one until I am holding the new one in my hands, not to  
worry!  Hopefully the local store here (National Camera Exchange),  
from which I purchased my DS, will have the K100D in stock so I can  
check it out.  Something to do during our 100+ degree weekend!

  -Charles

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Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-27 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:59:19 +0100, Keith McGuinness  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tim Øsleby wrote:
 Pardon me saying this Tom: but the run about like naked animals part
 sounds very ethnocentric in my ears. To be totally strait with you, I  
 find
 it rather offensive.

 ...like naked animals...

 I don't find it offensive, just incomprehensible.

 Humans originally took to wearing clothes for protection (cold),
 decoration and convenience (belts and pockets). You could also
 add hygiene as a legitimate reason.

 Unlike animals, humans have subsequently adopted strange notions
 that certain bits of bodies are offensive or indecent or something.

 In this context, the phrase like naked animals (lacking strange
 hang-ups) is to me, more of a compliment than an insult.

Moi aussi.

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Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system

2006-07-27 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Re: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system


 Yeah, but you get half the reliability of a Nissan at only twice the
 price.  Who can resist that?


I was able to. And my Titan is a lightweight compared to an F350 Super Duty 
or GMC 3500.

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Re: PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't count a grad filter as a special effect. It's a means of  
achieving a balanced exposure between sky and foreground. It's just  
good technique.
Paul
On Jul 27, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Thanks so much! If I were to do it today, I'd likely use the burn  
 tool.
 Felt especially lucky when the effect turned out to be manageable in a
 wet lab.

 Jack

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 That's a beautiful photo. I don't really approve of special effects
 filters, but it's very effective in this case. The composition of the
 photo is perfect. Lovely scene. Could be somewhere in Britain.

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 Sent: 27 July 2006 19:49
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 Subject: PESO: Awaiting Spring

 Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
 foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
 Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre
 PS)
 Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
 Would truly appreciate your reaction.

 Thanks,

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Re: PESO: Awaiting Spring

2006-07-27 Thread Tom C
I was going to say the same but you said it better.  I was personally 
STUNNED to learn that Bob W doesn't approve of something.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:48:03 -0400

I don't count a grad filter as a special effect. It's a means of
achieving a balanced exposure between sky and foreground. It's just
good technique.
Paul
On Jul 27, 2006, at 4:48 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

  Thanks so much! If I were to do it today, I'd likely use the burn
  tool.
  Felt especially lucky when the effect turned out to be manageable in a
  wet lab.
 
  Jack
 
  --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  That's a beautiful photo. I don't really approve of special effects
  filters, but it's very effective in this case. The composition of the
  photo is perfect. Lovely scene. Could be somewhere in Britain.
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Jack Davis
  Sent: 27 July 2006 19:49
  To: pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: PESO: Awaiting Spring
 
  Another brooding scene shot in the local Sutter Buttes. Has a
  foreboding element that, for me, adds interest.
  Cloud tone accomplished by tilting a Cokin grad gray filter. (pre
  PS)
  Lx, K-24mm f/2.8, Kodak Ektar 25.
  Would truly appreciate your reaction.
 
  Thanks,
 
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Re: OT: People in academics

2006-07-27 Thread Larry Levy
Good timing! Congratulations.

Does this mean you'll have to change your signature?

Larry in Dallas

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Enablement

2006-07-27 Thread Larry Levy
On the third try, I actually got an 80-320 that works on my D. This is not 
an indoor lens.

Busy working on some Astor Piazzolla stuff, so I can't give it a workout 
'till tomorrow morning.

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