Re: PESO - Forever?

2008-10-24 Thread David Mann

Post it to Fail Blog!

- Dave

On Oct 24, 2008, at 2:41 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Perhaps they were a tad optimistic in their market research?

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/some-things-just-arent-forever.html

Or perhaps some things just aren't meant to be...

;-)

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Re: Inverters

2008-10-24 Thread David Mann

On Oct 24, 2008, at 6:33 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:


Since this is almost certainly a modified sine wave
inverter, do you guys think it might cause a problem with the stuff
I'd like to plug into it?  Or would I be better off ordering something
a little better?


I doubt it'd cause any problem with the gear you mentioned.

- Dave (power electronics engineer in a previous life)


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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread David Mann

On Oct 24, 2008, at 8:36 AM, John Celio wrote:


Anyone gotten Photoshop CS4 yet?  How is it, compared to CS3?


It goes to 4!  It's, like, one louder than 3!

I'm still on CS2 at the moment.  I need to wade through the million  
different packages they have to see if I can get a good deal to  
upgrade Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Fireworks all at once.  My old  
Macromedia packages won't work in OS X 10.5.


- Dave


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Re: OT: One Dollar Camera

2008-10-24 Thread David Mann

On Oct 24, 2008, at 6:44 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


But if I tried that Downunder it would have to be a $5 camera.  $1
banknotes haven't been in circulation here for over a decade.


I still have a couple of NZ$1 and $2 notes from when they went out of  
circulation (1990).  There was some talk of a $5 coin a few years back  
but nothing came of it.


I very rarely carry banknotes anymore but I have this really strange  
habit of carrying exactly two of each coin denomination.


- Dave


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Re: Batteries

2008-10-24 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 06:02:34PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
 I'm getting tired of disposable batteries for flash. Even the Energizer  
 Lithium batteries don't do that good a job, and they worked great for  
 powering my *ist-D (better than NiMH).

 Anyone have experience to share using NiMH rechargeables in flash,  
 particularly AF-500FTZ, AF-360FGZ or AF-540FGZ?

 I use the former with my PZ-1P, and the latter two with the *ist-D  K10D.

I use rechargeables in my 500 and 540 (and in the *ist-D).

I used to use Ray-O-Vacs (which were fine).  When I needed some more it
was hard to find Ray-O-Vacs, so I tried the Duracells (especially as they
had 2500 mAh cells).  I wasn't impressed - they didn't seem to last as
long as the Ray-O-Vacs 1800s, and self-discharged far too quickly.

Now I've switched to Sanyo Eneloops, which stay charged for ever (or at
least for months) - a good thing for the flash, and for a backup body.
The one negative is that the *ist-D isn't thrilled with the Eneloops
if you hook it up with the USB cable - it shows a 'flat battery' icon.
I keep a set of low self discharge Ray-O-Vacs (and some Lithium cells)
around in case I want to do that - it's a pain reading CF cards on my
notebook, so for just a few images I often use the USB cable instead.

As long as your charger can handle Eneloops (not all of them can) I'd
suggest getting those.  Thomas Distributing sells them at a good price.


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tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Subash
hi,

one more query regarding tripods. ;-) basically, i am looking for a
lightweight tripod to carry with me on my motorcycle rides. since i'll
usually be carrying a lot of camping gear too (tent, sleeping bag and
stuff) besides spares, i am really looking for something which
wouldn't take too much space, which is light and can handle the k10d
and either the DA16-45mm or the sigma 10-20mm (if i get one).

i am kind of leaning towards the manfrotto 725B with an integrated
ball head. would really appreciate your inputs on this. do tell me if
i am making a blunder.

for reference:

http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-725B-Tripod-Integrated-Carrying/dp/B000FFSDCC/ref=pd_cp_e_3?pf_rd_p=413862901pf_rd_s=center-41pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B000N81BXOpf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=1XY48CKTSD8EKG2VXY2S

http://tinyurl.com/5mcbwr

thanks and regards, subash

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OT: Linus' blog and solid state drives

2008-10-24 Thread Subash
hi,

for those interested, i stumbled on linus torvalds's recently-started
blog. and found this post on intel's solid state drives particularly
interesting:

http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2008/10/so-i-got-one-of-new-intel-ssds.html

regards, subash

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RE: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Bob W
I haven't seen a 725B so I can't comment on it from experience. However I note
that it has 4 sections, which will make it less stable than a 3 section trip and
more of a faff to put up and down. For lightweight use I have a 190 with a
ballhead and it's a great tripod and combo. It straps easily to the pannier of a
(non-motor) bike.

Bob

 
 hi,
 
 one more query regarding tripods. ;-) basically, i am looking for a
 lightweight tripod to carry with me on my motorcycle rides. since i'll
 usually be carrying a lot of camping gear too (tent, sleeping bag and
 stuff) besides spares, i am really looking for something which
 wouldn't take too much space, which is light and can handle the k10d
 and either the DA16-45mm or the sigma 10-20mm (if i get one).
 
 i am kind of leaning towards the manfrotto 725B with an integrated
 ball head. would really appreciate your inputs on this. do tell me if
 i am making a blunder.
 
 for reference:
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-725B-Tripod-Integrated-
 Carrying/dp/B000FFSDCC/ref=pd_cp_e_3?pf_rd_p=413862901pf_rd_s=center-
 41pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B000N81BXOpf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=1XY48CKTSD8EKG
 2VXY2S
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5mcbwr
 
 thanks and regards, subash



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Re: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Subash
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't seen a 725B so I can't comment on it from experience. However I note
 that it has 4 sections, which will make it less stable than a 3 section trip 
 and
 more of a faff to put up and down. For lightweight use I have a 190 with a
 ballhead and it's a great tripod and combo. It straps easily to the pannier 
 of a
 (non-motor) bike.

then it shouldn't be a problem on motored bike ;-). that, with a
486RC2, was another option i was thinking of. but there seems to be so
many 190s around (XDB3, CXPro4 and so on) it had/has me a little
confused. but thanks Bob, i'll do a little more homework..

regards, subash

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Re: PESO: temple tower

2008-10-24 Thread Subash
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:34 AM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:49 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Subash wrote:
  Here's what I did just for fun:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/subash.jpg

 Oh, that looks neato

 I like Mark's version, too.  Not so sure about the pink sky, but the
 rest of it is great - of course he started with a pretty damned good
 photo!  Nice one, Subash.

thank you Frank. i thought Mark's rendition was much much better too...

regards, subash

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Re: Inverters

2008-10-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/10/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Continuing the Batteries thread.

I'd like to get an inverter for the car to run a AA battery charger,
cell phone charger and the laptop.  I can't think of anything else I'd
plug into it at the moment.  The laptop's power supply indicates 65W.
My reasoning is that it would cost more to buy the appropriate DC
chargers for this stuff, and the inverter allows some flexibility.

While this is probably simpler than I'm making it out to be, I'm very
green on this subject.  Sine, modified-sine, continuous wattage, etc.
It's all very technical and I'm lazy at this stage in my life.  From
what I can tell I should be able to go to Target and get a $35
inverter.  Since this is almost certainly a modified sine wave
inverter, do you guys think it might cause a problem with the stuff
I'd like to plug into it?  Or would I be better off ordering something
a little better?

If it makes any difference, physical size doesn't really matter.  I
have lighter sockets in the dash, two in the center console and
another in the cargo area.  So I can pretty much put this thing where
I want.

Running a laptop would be fine with most any type of inverter. If it's
65w you need, make sure you get one that will power double that load,
continuously.

Further reading:

http://www.sterling-power.com/products-230vi-pure-info.htm

I have a 230volt pure sine wave 1500 watt continuous inverter, but I
power a video monitor, audio monitors, VTRs, you name it. I have yet to
test the angle grinder on a wheel clamp in full anger ;-)



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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Cotty
On 23/10/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

Just printed out my first 13 x 19 BW on Ultra Premium Matte.  Yee Ha!!!
If I do say so myself, it looks so cool.  This printing is so much fun.
Here's the photo:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8080119size=lg


Lovely shot Christine.

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OT: head to head: Hasselblad and a Canon :-)

2008-10-24 Thread Subash
got it from reading another forum actually but thought it worth
posting it here:The MF Hasselblad H2 with Phase One P45+ back compared
to a Canon G10on 13x19 prints...(i guess i am relatively workless
at work today :-))

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml

quoting without prejudice:

The point of all of this is simple. As the industry matures the low
end is improving rapidly while the high end's improvements are slowing
down. This is narrowing the gap, and that's good news for all of us.
Don't read too much more into it than that.

regards, subash

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RE: single light portraits

2008-10-24 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/10/23 Thu PM 07:30:58 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: single light portraits
 
  http://tinyurl.com/5bpnrz
 
 
  My gosh, is it really 1870 again? ]:-)
 
 Heard it before.  I've had this style for two days now and have already
 heard every possible taunt and tease under the sun.
 
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Re: OT: head to head: Hasselblad and a Canon :-)

2008-10-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Yep. I also saw this article. In fact I've just finished reading 
(diagonally) through it.


Although I am not immediately in agreement with published findings and 
although I haven't seen the prints and although I don't intend to 
download these files and pixel peep into them, I generally approve of 
Michael Reichmann's conclusion. The Moore's law is kicking in with the 
vengeance.


Also indeed it may be that new Digic IV processor is a serious step 
up/forward for Canon.


On the other hand, one can notice in the article that print-wise the 
difference between 15 MP G10 and that MF camera wasn't all that apparent 
up until and including 13x19 prints. Given that A3 is how many - 11x16 
inches or so, it also means that even ancient from Moore's perspective 
K10D is still pretty much up to the task.


It only makes me wonder what will it be in 10 years from now.

Boris


Subash wrote:

got it from reading another forum actually but thought it worth
posting it here:The MF Hasselblad H2 with Phase One P45+ back compared
to a Canon G10on 13x19 prints...(i guess i am relatively workless
at work today :-))

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml

quoting without prejudice:

The point of all of this is simple. As the industry matures the low
end is improving rapidly while the high end's improvements are slowing
down. This is narrowing the gap, and that's good news for all of us.
Don't read too much more into it than that.

regards, subash

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Re: OT: head to head: Hasselblad and a Canon :-)

2008-10-24 Thread Subash
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On the other hand, one can notice in the article that print-wise the
 difference between 15 MP G10 and that MF camera wasn't all that apparent up
 until and including 13x19 prints. Given that A3 is how many - 11x16 inches
 or so, it also means that even ancient from Moore's perspective K10D is
 still pretty much up to the task.

hi Boris,

i am sure the K10D can hold its own pretty well against the G10 in the
area of IQ. but, like you, i too have often felt it to be a little too
big. i guess that's where the m43 and the likes of G10 score...

regards, subash

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Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Godfrey, from outside of US of A, your sentiment appears more towards 
the overreacting end of the spectrum.


Although, I should say that last two weeks were especially bloody on 
Israeli roads, at least half-dozen hit-and-run-away accidents all 
endings in death or severe injury of the victim.


Boris


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html

I hate this stuff.

G

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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Jack Davis
I know the feeling, Christine. The rush of getting a pleasing print, especially 
in 13x19, has to be experienced to be appreciated.
Actually holding a glorious print in your hand is the final satisfaction.

Jack


--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Yee Ha!!!
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 7:10 PM
 Just printed out my first 13 x 19 BW on Ultra
 Premium Matte.  Yee Ha!!! 
 If I do say so myself, it looks so cool.  This printing is
 so much fun. 
 Here's the photo:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8080119size=lg
 
 For the past couple of months, I've been photographing
 the construction that 
 is taking place at my work.  We're getting a 6-7 story
 indoor parking 
 building and a beautiful new student services building.  
 The architectural 
 renderings are now on exhibit in the lobby of our main
 campus building  
 about 15 of my BWs will also be on exhibit as soon as the
 framing is done. 
 During the next 18 months, we'll be rotating photos
 that tell the story and 
 progression of the construction.
 
 I have full access to the construction site and  have my
 own hard hat, which 
 I must obviously wear.  I had to read a safety manual 
 have to follow the 
 safety rules.  When I can shoot, I call down, and a young
 (and usually cute 
 :-)) assistant foreman lets me on site, then escorts me
 around.  He usually 
 says things like, Christine, watch out for that
 boulder ahead of you, 
 (like when I'm walking  have my nose behind the
 camera) or I have him 
 explain to me what it is I'm seeing, since I know
 absolutely nothing about 
 construction, though I am learning, and it's very
 interesting.  I've always 
 admired what man can build.
 
 I'm using the K20D with the DA 16-45mm.  Since the DA
 is F4, I put it on the 
 K20, since that camera has really good High ISO quality if
 I need it.  The 
 DA* 50-135mm is on the K10D, but today, when I shot the
 crusher grinding up 
 huge boulders, I put the DA* on the K20D.  I didn't
 feel like doing any wide 
 angle shots.  Anyway, I just felt like letting a Yee Ha
 loose :-).  Thanks 
 for listening, if you, in fact, did ;-).
 
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Andreas Pfotenhauer
dont know how much you are willing to spend on your tripod, but here
some suggestions:

- i do have a Velbon Sherpa Pro 640 which is lightweight and sturdy, i
can recommend it
- they also say Benro tripods are worth a look
- but the next one i buy (for carrying around manually) will most
definitly be a Feisol CT-3441 Pro (under 0.9kg weight, folded length
43cm, 4 segments, carbon, carries 6kg load), it has been said to be
comparable in quality and features with Gitzo's Explorer brand but at a
fraction of costs

hope that helps, regards from germany
Andreas


Subash wrote:
 hi,

 one more query regarding tripods. ;-) basically, i am looking for a
 lightweight tripod to carry with me on my motorcycle rides. since i'll
 usually be carrying a lot of camping gear too (tent, sleeping bag and
 stuff) besides spares, i am really looking for something which
 wouldn't take too much space, which is light and can handle the k10d
 and either the DA16-45mm or the sigma 10-20mm (if i get one).

 i am kind of leaning towards the manfrotto 725B with an integrated
 ball head. would really appreciate your inputs on this. do tell me if
 i am making a blunder.

 for reference:

 http://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-725B-Tripod-Integrated-Carrying/dp/B000FFSDCC/ref=pd_cp_e_3?pf_rd_p=413862901pf_rd_s=center-41pf_rd_t=201pf_rd_i=B000N81BXOpf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_r=1XY48CKTSD8EKG2VXY2S

 http://tinyurl.com/5mcbwr

 thanks and regards, subash

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Re: Inverters

2008-10-24 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/24/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Running a laptop would be fine with most any type of inverter. If it's
  65w you need, make sure you get one that will power double that load,
  continuously.

  Further reading:

  http://www.sterling-power.com/products-230vi-pure-info.htm

  I have a 230volt pure sine wave 1500 watt continuous inverter, but I
  power a video monitor, audio monitors, VTRs, you name it. I have yet to
  test the angle grinder on a wheel clamp in full anger ;-)

Where is Angle Grinder Man when you need him?

Thanks for the link and advice, Cotty.


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Re: Inverters

2008-10-24 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/24/08, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Oct 24, 2008, at 6:33 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
  I doubt it'd cause any problem with the gear you mentioned.

Thanks, Dave.  Much appreciated.

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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread PN Stenquist
I agree. Adobe has been the backbone of the graphic arts and  
advertising business since the early nineties. I can't imagine where  
we would have been today without the work Adobe has done. That idea  
that no one should have to pay for software is the result of twisted  
thinking and hopeless nostalgia.

Paul

On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

What he means to say is that all those programs are likely  
available online
now for the sum of $0.0 if you're willing to download the torrent  
files and

connect to seeds that are certainly out there on the world wide web
providing the software to anyone who asks without being encumbered  
by the

pesky licensing and ownership process.

CW
proponent of torrents but not willing to outright steal thousands of
dollars worth of software, yet.


I have absolutely no objection to stealing from Adobe or Microsoft.
Fortunately, I don't really use their software anymore, so it's not  
an

issue.  ;)


Stealing is stealing. You can't say that Microsoft and Adobe are  
evil if you are a thief.


All my software is obtained legally. I get good deals by making  
connections and being polite. I also get excellent support from  
Adobe. I would not even consider stealing from them.


G


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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Scott Loveless
Obviously, my tongue-in-cheek references were taken a bit too
seriously.  My apologies for not adding enough smilies.

On 10/24/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I agree. Adobe has been the backbone of the graphic arts and advertising
 business since the early nineties. I can't imagine where we would have been
 today without the work Adobe has done. That idea that no one should have to
 pay for software is the result of twisted thinking and hopeless nostalgia.
  Paul


  On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


  On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:
 
 
  
What he means to say is that all those programs are likely available
 online
now for the sum of $0.0 if you're willing to download the torrent
 files and
connect to seeds that are certainly out there on the world wide web
providing the software to anyone who asks without being encumbered by
 the
pesky licensing and ownership process.
   
CW
proponent of torrents but not willing to outright steal thousands of
dollars worth of software, yet.
   
  
   I have absolutely no objection to stealing from Adobe or Microsoft.
   Fortunately, I don't really use their software anymore, so it's not an
   issue.  ;)
  
 
  Stealing is stealing. You can't say that Microsoft and Adobe are evil if
 you are a thief.
 
  All my software is obtained legally. I get good deals by making
 connections and being polite. I also get excellent support from Adobe. I
 would not even consider stealing from them.
 
  G
 
 
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Re: Inverters

2008-10-24 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/24/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a 230volt pure sine wave 1500 watt continuous inverter, but I
  power a video monitor, audio monitors, VTRs, you name it. I have yet to
  test the angle grinder on a wheel clamp in full anger ;-)

Solid-state inverters tend not to work well on anything with more than
a small electric motor in it. So angle grinding is probably out unless
you get a generator. :-)

For stuff like a laptop/AA battery charger/portable DVD player/etc.
they work fine. A better solution would be to find power supplies
for the equipment in question that run off of 12 volts. More efficient
that way at least, though it'll cost more money. For the laptop and
battery charger at least, solutions are easy to find.

For the cheap solution, a $35 inverter will work just fine. :-)

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Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

My daughter and her 3 roommates found this abandoned kitten 6 weeks
ago.  The mother probably left him since he was too small, and he's only
survived because four human beings has catered to his every whim.  The
vet says he is perfectly healthy but stunted.  Seeing them all in
action, this tiny creature again demonstrates that cute is a Darwinian
survival skill.

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Re: *ist D and focus confirmation with M42 mount lenses?

2008-10-24 Thread John Graves

My *ist DS has focus confirmation with my M42 lenses.

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Bran Everseeking wrote:

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:03:12 -0500
Cymen Vig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Does the *ist D have focus confirmation with M42 mount lenses? If so,
was support in the initial firmware or did it require an upgrade?


the K10D does and did out of the box... best I can do.

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Re: Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread Charles Robinson

On Oct 24, 2008, at 8:58, Steve Desjardins wrote:


http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

My daughter and her 3 roommates found this abandoned kitten 6 weeks
ago.  The mother probably left him since he was too small, and he's  
only

survived because four human beings has catered to his every whim.  The
vet says he is perfectly healthy but stunted.  Seeing them all in
action, this tiny creature again demonstrates that cute is a  
Darwinian

survival skill.



It's a great story, but I can't get the image to load.

I'll wager this line is the issue:

img border=0 src=file:///H:/public_html/francois.jpg width=1000  
height=669


..as the rest of the world does not have access to your H: drive.


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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread David J Brooks
I'd like to try a big print for 1 or 2 of my shots, but i still get
some minor incositencies on the 2400, so i'm a bit gun shy.:-0

Dave

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Christine  Aguila
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 - Original Message - From: PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Congratulations on your first 13 x 19. There's nothing like a great  print
 to renew a photographer's enthusiasm.

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Re: Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread Charles Robinson

On Oct 24, 2008, at 9:10, Charles Robinson wrote:

It's a great story, but I can't get the image to load.

I'll wager this line is the issue:

img border=0 src=file:///H:/public_html/francois.jpg  
width=1000 height=669


..as the rest of the world does not have access to your H: drive.



This works, though!

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/francois.jpg

Cute!

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Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
'60's Pogo comic strip for sure.
One of the lasting truths from the cartoonists.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:23 PM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Well, we - as a nation - keep voting nannys into office. We have no one to
 blame but orselves.

 We have met the enemy and he is us!
Walt Kelly, on a 1970 anti-pollution poster for Earth Day.

 I remember it from a 60s Pogo strip ... re-cycled for that Earth Day poster.

 The next panel was We is confronted with insurmountable opportunities.

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Re: single light portraits

2008-10-24 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Heya!

 Anyone have any single light portraits to share?  Also, what are you
 opinions are using a single light?


 David Bailey famously used only one light. When asked why he replied 'cause
 there's only one f_cking sun.

 If it's good enough for Rembrandt...

Wonder if he used Pentax paints. Probably not, the paintings would
have looked soft before post painting.

Dave

Dave

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Re: PESO - Forever?

2008-10-24 Thread David J Brooks
Good eye Frank.

Ann worthy.:-)

Dave

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 Perhaps they were a tad optimistic in their market research?

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/some-things-just-arent-forever.html

 Or perhaps some things just aren't meant to be...

 ;-)

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Re: PESO -- Fall Stairs

2008-10-24 Thread David J Brooks
Nice. I like the composition and just the right amount of leaves on the stairs.

Dave

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20fallstairs.html

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Re: Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread William Robb

On Oct 24, 2008, at 8:58, Steve Desjardins wrote:




http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/francois.jpg

 Seeing them all in
action, this tiny creature again demonstrates that cute is a  
Darwinian

survival skill.



Yup, I can see why you let your daughter live.

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Re: Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
Interesting.  This used to work just fine.  I wonder what changed. 
Thanks for the fix.

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Re: Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
FYI, the new link (thanks to Charles)

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/francois.jpg 



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Re: single light portraits

2008-10-24 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Scott Loveless

Subject: single light portraits



Heya!

Anyone have any single light portraits to share?  Also, what are you
opinions are using a single light?


I believe everything on this page was done with a single beauty dish.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/lyndsaye1.html

I like single light portraiture, I suppose because I'm just not competent to 
use more than that..


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Re: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Subash
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:32:56 +0200
Andreas Pfotenhauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dont know how much you are willing to spend on your tripod, but here
 some suggestions:
 
 - i do have a Velbon Sherpa Pro 640 which is lightweight and sturdy, i
 can recommend it
 - they also say Benro tripods are worth a look
 - but the next one i buy (for carrying around manually) will most
 definitly be a Feisol CT-3441 Pro (under 0.9kg weight, folded length
 43cm, 4 segments, carbon, carries 6kg load), it has been said to be
 comparable in quality and features with Gitzo's Explorer brand but at
 a fraction of costs

thanks Andreas. yes i did forget to mention by price range. i am
looking for something within about (converted) US$200. the sherpa pro
looks a bit out of reach right now. but thanks for the suggestions. i
am still looking around...

regards, subash

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OT PESO - Suburban Lightshow

2008-10-24 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

Took this one a couple of hours ago with the non Pentax camera (~105kb):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2969441818_f926077313_o.jpg

It's going to be a wild  woolly night

Cheers,

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Re: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I wouldn't buy any tripod that does not allow you to interchange heads  
easily.


After an excellent experiene on the Isle of Man using my friend's  
Manfrotto 190CX 3-section aluminum legs fitted with my Markins Q3  
head, I purchased a set of 190CXpro3 carbon fiber legs for myself.  
It's a little smaller tripod than I normally thought I would prefer,  
but it's very stable, very fast in the field, folds up small, and is  
very light. The height suffices for that 95% of what is needed in most  
circumstances, and it holds the camera and long lens quite nicely.


As a complete setup, it's quite a bit more than your $200 price point,  
unfortunately. The head cost me $270 and the legs another $270. But  
the quality, precision, and sturdiness is well worth it, they'ver very  
light; I think they'll last a very very long time.


For that $200 price point, you can get the Manfrotto 190XB legs fitted  
with one or another of the mini or midi Manfrotto ballheads. And  
upgrade the head later when you can afford to.


Godfrey

On Oct 24, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Subash wrote:


On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:32:56 +0200
Andreas Pfotenhauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


dont know how much you are willing to spend on your tripod, but here
some suggestions:

- i do have a Velbon Sherpa Pro 640 which is lightweight and  
sturdy, i

can recommend it
- they also say Benro tripods are worth a look
- but the next one i buy (for carrying around manually) will most
definitly be a Feisol CT-3441 Pro (under 0.9kg weight, folded length
43cm, 4 segments, carbon, carries 6kg load), it has been said to be
comparable in quality and features with Gitzo's Explorer brand but at
a fraction of costs


thanks Andreas. yes i did forget to mention by price range. i am
looking for something within about (converted) US$200. the sherpa pro
looks a bit out of reach right now. but thanks for the suggestions. i
am still looking around...



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Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Thanks for your concerned comment.

G

On Oct 24, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Godfrey, from outside of US of A, your sentiment appears more  
towards the overreacting end of the spectrum.


Although, I should say that last two weeks were especially bloody on  
Israeli roads, at least half-dozen hit-and-run-away accidents all  
endings in death or severe injury of the victim.


Boris


Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html
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Re: OT PESO - Suburban Lightshow

2008-10-24 Thread Charles Robinson

On Oct 24, 2008, at 9:46, David Savage wrote:


G'day All,

Took this one a couple of hours ago with the non Pentax camera  
(~105kb):


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2969441818_f926077313_o.jpg

It's going to be a wild  woolly night



Looks like fun!

The streetlights are making the same starburst pattern I see with  
the DA16-50 when it's stopped down and doing long exposures.   Cool.


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Re: PESO - Forever?

2008-10-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
Since you can't straighten it, we'll all tilt our monitors when we
look at it grin.  Nice shot BTW...

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Thursday, October 23, 2008, 9:28:36 AM, you wrote:

CR On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:07, frank theriault wrote:


 So, yeah, I agree that it should be rotated about a degree, but given
 my current issues, it wasn't to be.


CR Oh... sorry, I completely forgot about that!  As you were

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Re: single light portraits

2008-10-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Scott,

It usually works better than zero light portraits grin.  I have
only limited experience using one light - almost always use two.  But
what I have found is the one light tends to create more dramatic
highlight/shadows.  The second light is used most of the time to
bring up the shadows to make the picture not so strong.

So I would say it can be used ok - also if you have any means of
bouncing light - like a reflector or white wall then you can
compensate for not having the second light to some degree.

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Thursday, October 23, 2008, 9:52:44 AM, you wrote:

SL Heya!

SL Anyone have any single light portraits to share?  Also, what are you
SL opinions are using a single light?




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Re: PESO -- Fall Stairs

2008-10-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
Pretty cool shot, there.  Well seen and captured.

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Thursday, October 23, 2008, 5:02:51 PM, you wrote:

PJA http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20fallstairs.html

PJA Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8

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Re: head to head: Hasselblad and a Canon :-)

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila
A while back Brooks Jensen from the magazine Lens Works did a podcast about 
a similar test:  Hasselblad  some DSLR, can't remember which one.  Similar 
findings were made with prints 13 x19 and smaller.  Very little difference 
was noticed.  The difference came when printing larger, museum sized prints; 
here medium format won out, as would be expected.   Yep, I think it's an 
exciting time for photography and photographers--the journey has been great 
fun so far; it will be interesting to see where it takes us.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: OT: head to head: Hasselblad and a Canon :-)



got it from reading another forum actually but thought it worth
posting it here:The MF Hasselblad H2 with Phase One P45+ back compared
to a Canon G10on 13x19 prints...(i guess i am relatively workless
at work today :-))

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/kidding.shtml

quoting without prejudice:

The point of all of this is simple. As the industry matures the low
end is improving rapidly while the high end's improvements are slowing
down. This is narrowing the gap, and that's good news for all of us.
Don't read too much more into it than that.

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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
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I'd like to try a big print for 1 or 2 of my shots, but i still get
some minor incositencies on the 2400, so i'm a bit gun shy.:-0



Go for it, Dave!  No guts, no glory! :-)   Seriously, just out of interest, 
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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: Yee Ha!!!


I know the feeling, Christine. The rush of getting a pleasing print, 
especially in 13x19, has to be experienced to be appreciated.

Actually holding a glorious print in your hand is the final satisfaction.



Thanks, Jack, and how right your are.  This is so much fun.  Cheers, 
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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Cotty.  It'll be interesting to see how this project goes, since I 
know so little about my subject--construction (lol), and I've never had the 
opportunity to commit to a formal project like this--I've never been 
accountable to anyone's tastes and expectations in such a public way.  The 
curator is also a photographer (she's done some brilliant infrared 
exhibits), so I get to learn a lot from her about shooting for an 
exhibit--that is, as I'm walking about the site, my mind's eye is seeing-at 
the speed of nano-seconds- the image, the print, then  the print on the 
wall.  It's different:  usually I just look for cool things to shoot and 
hope my husband and family will like what I show them (lol). :-)


Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:43 AM
Subject: Re: Yee Ha!!!



On 23/10/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:


Just printed out my first 13 x 19 BW on Ultra Premium Matte.  Yee Ha!!!
If I do say so myself, it looks so cool.  This printing is so much fun.
Here's the photo:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8080119size=lg



Lovely shot Christine.

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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just printed out my first 13 x 19 BW on Ultra Premium Matte.  Yee Ha!!! If
 I do say so myself, it looks so cool.  This printing is so much fun. Here's
 the photo:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8080119size=lg

 For the past couple of months, I've been photographing the construction that
 is taking place at my work.  We're getting a 6-7 story indoor parking
 building and a beautiful new student services building.   The architectural
 renderings are now on exhibit in the lobby of our main campus building 
 about 15 of my BWs will also be on exhibit as soon as the framing is done.
 During the next 18 months, we'll be rotating photos that tell the story and
 progression of the construction.

 I have full access to the construction site and  have my own hard hat, which
 I must obviously wear.  I had to read a safety manual  have to follow the
 safety rules.  When I can shoot, I call down, and a young (and usually cute
 :-)) assistant foreman lets me on site, then escorts me around.  He usually
 says things like, Christine, watch out for that boulder ahead of you,
 (like when I'm walking  have my nose behind the camera) or I have him
 explain to me what it is I'm seeing, since I know absolutely nothing about
 construction, though I am learning, and it's very interesting.  I've always
 admired what man can build.

 I'm using the K20D with the DA 16-45mm.  Since the DA is F4, I put it on the
 K20, since that camera has really good High ISO quality if I need it.  The
 DA* 50-135mm is on the K10D, but today, when I shot the crusher grinding up
 huge boulders, I put the DA* on the K20D.  I didn't feel like doing any wide
 angle shots.  Anyway, I just felt like letting a Yee Ha loose :-).  Thanks
 for listening, if you, in fact, did ;-).

 Cheers, Christine



That's very cool, Christine.  I've only had a couple of digital prints
done, and I don't think any larger than 11x14.  It's something I miss
from film days, getting back prints from the lab.

That's a lovely photo - it must look glorious all blowed up!

;-)

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Re: PESO -- Fall Stairs

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20fallstairs.html

 Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8



That's quite beautiful, in an autumnal sort of way (meaning that for
me, autumn is always a bit sad, even if it can be beautiful).

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Re: single light portraits

2008-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Oct 23, 2008, at 23:12 , William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless
Subject: single light portraits



Heya!

Anyone have any single light portraits to share?  Also, what are you
opinions are using a single light?


I believe everything on this page was done with a single beauty dish.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/lyndsaye1.html

I like single light portraiture, I suppose because I'm just not  
competent to use more than that..


William Robb



With two shadows?

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Re: PESO -- Fall Stairs

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila

What Frank said, Peter.  Nice one.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:02 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20fallstairs.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8




That's quite beautiful, in an autumnal sort of way (meaning that for
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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]





That's very cool, Christine.  I've only had a couple of digital prints
done, and I don't think any larger than 11x14.  It's something I miss
from film days, getting back prints from the lab.

That's a lovely photo - it must look glorious all blowed up!



Thanks, Frank.  Also, I accidently deleted your Forever PESO.  Sorry about 
that.  Just wanted to say fun shot, made me giggle, good eye/catch, and best 
to the family ;-).


Cheers, Christine 




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Re: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Subash
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:39:05 -0700
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As a complete setup, it's quite a bit more than your $200 price
 point, unfortunately. The head cost me $270 and the legs another
 $270. But the quality, precision, and sturdiness is well worth it,
 they'ver very light; I think they'll last a very very long time.
 
 For that $200 price point, you can get the Manfrotto 190XB legs
 fitted with one or another of the mini or midi Manfrotto ballheads.
 And upgrade the head later when you can afford to.

thanks Godfrey for the detailed reply. that *is* much above what i can
afford right now. tentatively planning to go with the manfrotto 190XDB3
stand and the 486RC2 head for now.i still have a week before i hand in
the cash so i'll keep looking around. 

regards, subash

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PESO - Crossing College

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
The shadows are lengthening, even at mid-day:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/crossing-college.html

It's simple, but I still like it.  Comment if you feel compelled to.

Thanks,
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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
It's been a long long time since I've filled up my hard drives with  
LimeWire downloads that I hardly or never used, and I understand the  
corporate need to perpetuate.


That being said, I get cranked every time I run into the invisible  
wall created by the collusion of hardware and software producers,  
causing you to HAVE to upgrade your software to run  on the newer  
hardware, which you HAVE to buy because the software producer ceases  
support for the older versions. Not a problem for the corporate worker- 
bees, or government drones, but a substantial burden on the self  
employed or retired.


Most of what I do today I could still be doing in PS 4, Pagemaker 4,  
Quicken 2000, and AppleWorks. But none of those will run on current  
equipment, or are no longer around nor have any support, no minor  
upgrades to run on newer hardware, not even an upgrade 'path'.


The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price every 3  
years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My Quicken  
2006 will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and there is no  
upgrade path. I just want to use it to keep track of my checkbook and  
charges. I don't need all the 100s of NEW features for tracking my  
investments, graphing everything in seventeen different forms. Back in  
the 90s they even got the banks to change to a new form of download  
files so you couldn't use the older versions of Quicken at all.


So when I'm offered (as I am almost every day via email) the latest  
greatest version of even $50 software, let alone $1400 stuff, for $.10  
on the $1.00, it gives me pause for thought.


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

On Oct 24, 2008, at 06:37 , Scott Loveless wrote:


Obviously, my tongue-in-cheek references were taken a bit too
seriously.  My apologies for not adding enough smilies.

On 10/24/08, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree. Adobe has been the backbone of the graphic arts and  
advertising
business since the early nineties. I can't imagine where we would  
have been
today without the work Adobe has done. That idea that no one should  
have to
pay for software is the result of twisted thinking and hopeless  
nostalgia.

Paul


On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Oct 23, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:




What he means to say is that all those programs are likely  
available

online

now for the sum of $0.0 if you're willing to download the torrent

files and
connect to seeds that are certainly out there on the world wide  
web
providing the software to anyone who asks without being  
encumbered by

the

pesky licensing and ownership process.

CW
proponent of torrents but not willing to outright steal  
thousands of

dollars worth of software, yet.



I have absolutely no objection to stealing from Adobe or Microsoft.
Fortunately, I don't really use their software anymore, so it's  
not an

issue.  ;)



Stealing is stealing. You can't say that Microsoft and Adobe are  
evil if

you are a thief.


All my software is obtained legally. I get good deals by making
connections and being polite. I also get excellent support from  
Adobe. I

would not even consider stealing from them.


G





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Re: PESO - Crossing College

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Frank:  That's fun.  You've got some great framing there with the arm 
positions of the two folks on either end.  Body positions are subtle, but 
speak volumes.  That person in the middle with the hat is great.  Nice one, 
Frank.  Cheers, Christine



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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]



The shadows are lengthening, even at mid-day:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/crossing-college.html

It's simple, but I still like it.  Comment if you feel compelled to.

Thanks,
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Re: PESO - Crossing College

2008-10-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Looks superb on my handtop screen.

On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:50 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The shadows are lengthening, even at mid-day:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/10/crossing-college.html

 It's simple, but I still like it.  Comment if you feel compelled to.

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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Subash
On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:54:49 -0700
Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Most of what I do today I could still be doing in PS 4, Pagemaker 4,  
 Quicken 2000, and AppleWorks. But none of those will run on current  
 equipment, or are no longer around nor have any support, no minor  
 upgrades to run on newer hardware, not even an upgrade 'path'.

 So when I'm offered (as I am almost every day via email) the latest  
 greatest version of even $50 software, let alone $1400 stuff, for
 $.10 on the $1.00, it gives me pause for thought.

funnily enough, same thing happens with linux too. i use slackware
(with my own custom-rolled kernel) and am eagerly awaiting slack13,
which has the KDE 4.1. i am beginning to wonder if my 2004 compaq
presario laptop can take that load 

of course, there are plenty other, rather important differences
too.. :-))

regards, subash

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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Ken Waller
Sounds like you have a neat arrangement @ the construction site - go get'em 
girl !


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Yee Ha!!!


Just printed out my first 13 x 19 BW on Ultra Premium Matte.  Yee Ha!!! 
If I do say so myself, it looks so cool.  This printing is so much fun. 
Here's the photo:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8080119size=lg

For the past couple of months, I've been photographing the construction 
that is taking place at my work.  We're getting a 6-7 story indoor parking 
building and a beautiful new student services building.   The 
architectural renderings are now on exhibit in the lobby of our main 
campus building  about 15 of my BWs will also be on exhibit as soon as 
the framing is done. During the next 18 months, we'll be rotating photos 
that tell the story and progression of the construction.


I have full access to the construction site and  have my own hard hat, 
which I must obviously wear.  I had to read a safety manual  have to 
follow the safety rules.  When I can shoot, I call down, and a young (and 
usually cute :-)) assistant foreman lets me on site, then escorts me 
around.  He usually says things like, Christine, watch out for that 
boulder ahead of you, (like when I'm walking  have my nose behind the 
camera) or I have him explain to me what it is I'm seeing, since I know 
absolutely nothing about construction, though I am learning, and it's very 
interesting.  I've always admired what man can build.


I'm using the K20D with the DA 16-45mm.  Since the DA is F4, I put it on 
the K20, since that camera has really good High ISO quality if I need it. 
The DA* 50-135mm is on the K10D, but today, when I shot the crusher 
grinding up huge boulders, I put the DA* on the K20D.  I didn't feel like 
doing any wide angle shots.  Anyway, I just felt like letting a Yee Ha 
loose :-).  Thanks for listening, if you, in fact, did ;-).


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RE: Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread Bob W
 
 FYI, the new link (thanks to Charles)
 
 http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/francois.jpg
 

Where do you put the batteries?

Bob


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Re: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 24, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Subash wrote:


thanks Godfrey for the detailed reply. that *is* much above what i can
afford right now. tentatively planning to go with the manfrotto  
190XDB3

stand and the 486RC2 head for now.i still have a week before i hand in
the cash so i'll keep looking around.


You're welcome.

I prefer the 190XB vs the 190XDB legs ... there's a difference in the  
leg locks. The XB's are a bit faster to operate.


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Re: Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

 My daughter and her 3 roommates found this abandoned kitten 6 weeks
 ago.  The mother probably left him since he was too small, and he's only
 survived because four human beings has catered to his every whim.  The
 vet says he is perfectly healthy but stunted.  Seeing them all in
 action, this tiny creature again demonstrates that cute is a Darwinian
 survival skill.

That's about the cutest thing I've ever seen.  Thanks for a Friday smile, Steve!

cheers,
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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you just want to keep track of your checkbook and charges, why use  
quicken at all? Any simple database program can do that. I do it with  
a simple database I made a dozen or more years ago. I've migrated it  
through several different DB engines as things changed. It works fine.


Very little of what I do today with image processing was anywhere near  
as easy and productive to do in PS 4. Same for my writing and document  
creation comparing AppleWorks and Pages.


G



On Oct 24, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

It's been a long long time since I've filled up my hard drives with  
LimeWire downloads that I hardly or never used, and I understand the  
corporate need to perpetuate.


That being said, I get cranked every time I run into the invisible  
wall created by the collusion of hardware and software producers,  
causing you to HAVE to upgrade your software to run  on the newer  
hardware, which you HAVE to buy because the software producer ceases  
support for the older versions. Not a problem for the corporate  
worker-bees, or government drones, but a substantial burden on the  
self employed or retired.


Most of what I do today I could still be doing in PS 4, Pagemaker 4,  
Quicken 2000, and AppleWorks. But none of those will run on current  
equipment, or are no longer around nor have any support, no minor  
upgrades to run on newer hardware, not even an upgrade 'path'.


The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price every  
3 years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My Quicken  
2006 will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and there is no  
upgrade path. I just want to use it to keep track of my checkbook  
and charges. I don't need all the 100s of NEW features for tracking  
my investments, graphing everything in seventeen different forms.  
Back in the 90s they even got the banks to change to a new form of  
download files so you couldn't use the older versions of Quicken at  
all.


So when I'm offered (as I am almost every day via email) the latest  
greatest version of even $50 software, let alone $1400 stuff, for $. 
10 on the $1.00, it gives me pause for thought.


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time



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Re: OT: One Dollar Camera

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Interesting.

 But if I tried that Downunder it would have to be a $5 camera.  $1
 banknotes haven't been in circulation here for over a decade.

Same thing in Canada.  $1 and $2 denominations have been coins for a
long long time.

Pretty amazing origami!

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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread PN Stenquist
The mailman just dropped CS4 Design Suite on my doorstep. I'm looking  
forward to giving it a whirl.


I do a lot of work beyond conversion and rendering, so I believe PS is  
better suited to my workflow than Lightroom.

Paul
On Oct 24, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

If you just want to keep track of your checkbook and charges, why  
use quicken at all? Any simple database program can do that. I do it  
with a simple database I made a dozen or more years ago. I've  
migrated it through several different DB engines as things changed.  
It works fine.


Very little of what I do today with image processing was anywhere  
near as easy and productive to do in PS 4. Same for my writing and  
document creation comparing AppleWorks and Pages.


G



On Oct 24, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

It's been a long long time since I've filled up my hard drives with  
LimeWire downloads that I hardly or never used, and I understand  
the corporate need to perpetuate.


That being said, I get cranked every time I run into the invisible  
wall created by the collusion of hardware and software producers,  
causing you to HAVE to upgrade your software to run  on the newer  
hardware, which you HAVE to buy because the software producer  
ceases support for the older versions. Not a problem for the  
corporate worker-bees, or government drones, but a substantial  
burden on the self employed or retired.


Most of what I do today I could still be doing in PS 4, Pagemaker  
4, Quicken 2000, and AppleWorks. But none of those will run on  
current equipment, or are no longer around nor have any support, no  
minor upgrades to run on newer hardware, not even an upgrade 'path'.


The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price every  
3 years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My  
Quicken 2006 will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and there  
is no upgrade path. I just want to use it to keep track of my  
checkbook and charges. I don't need all the 100s of NEW features  
for tracking my investments, graphing everything in seventeen  
different forms. Back in the 90s they even got the banks to change  
to a new form of download files so you couldn't use the older  
versions of Quicken at all.


So when I'm offered (as I am almost every day via email) the latest  
greatest version of even $50 software, let alone $1400 stuff, for $. 
10 on the $1.00, it gives me pause for thought.


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time



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RE: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Bob W
It's possible to get a lot of the big name software for nothing, or next to
nothing, quite legitimately. I got the entire Office 2003 suite for less than
US$20- under the Home Use Programme which my employer subscribed to. I would
never pay the full price for something like that, and Microsoft seem to
understand that, so they make the best of it with something like home use. 

It's also fairly easy to get things for the student price by enrolling in a
course which gets you a proper student id. The Open University here offers a
number of courses quite cheaply for that.

If all that fails, then there is a lot of high-quality free software available,
such as OpenOffice which does a perfectly good job for most of the things that
MS Office does. Microsoft themselves give a lot of good stuff away.

Some products, though, have no cheap or free parallel unfortunately. Lightroom
is one of those, although I happen to think it's very fairly priced considering
its market. I'm still in the process of recovering my system after having to
reinstall the operating system, so I've just been forced to upgrade to Lightroom
2 earlier than I might have planned, but that's just one of my punishments for
stuffing my OS.

Things like accountancy packages are available for nothing very easily, or are
very easy to deal with on spreadsheets. When I had my own business I did
everything in Excel. It helps to keep things simple.

Bob

 
 It's been a long long time since I've filled up my hard drives with
 LimeWire downloads that I hardly or never used, and I understand the
 corporate need to perpetuate.
 
 That being said, I get cranked every time I run into the invisible
 wall created by the collusion of hardware and software producers,
 causing you to HAVE to upgrade your software to run  on the newer
 hardware, which you HAVE to buy because the software producer ceases
 support for the older versions. Not a problem for the corporate worker-
 bees, or government drones, but a substantial burden on the self
 employed or retired.
 
 Most of what I do today I could still be doing in PS 4, Pagemaker 4,
 Quicken 2000, and AppleWorks. But none of those will run on current
 equipment, or are no longer around nor have any support, no minor
 upgrades to run on newer hardware, not even an upgrade 'path'.
 
 The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price every 3
 years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My Quicken
 2006 will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and there is no
 upgrade path. I just want to use it to keep track of my checkbook and
 charges. I don't need all the 100s of NEW features for tracking my
 investments, graphing everything in seventeen different forms. Back in
 the 90s they even got the banks to change to a new form of download
 files so you couldn't use the older versions of Quicken at all.
 
 So when I'm offered (as I am almost every day via email) the latest
 greatest version of even $50 software, let alone $1400 stuff, for $.10
 on the $1.00, it gives me pause for thought.
 
 Joseph McAllister
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RE: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread John Celio
The Velbon Ultra Luxi F is the travel tripod I really want.  Back when
I worked at Reed's, I got to use a lot of tripods, and this one was the
best travel tripod I ever tried.  It's small when folded up but just as
tall as a regular tripod when extended.  It's very light and yet
well-built.  The head is good for its size, and can be replaced with any
other head, I believe.  The center column can be truncated for
low-to-the-ground shooting, as well as flipped if you want the camera
upside down.  The legs use a twist-lock mechanism, making them VERY
quick to extend and retract.  The legs also can be positioned in a wide
range of angles, to accommodate the terrain.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00022UE8O

Sorry to be so verbose about it, but I really do think it's a great
tripod.

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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Paul Sorenson
Maybe you should consider moving to a Windows box...we're still running 
Quicken 2000 on one of our XP machines.   ;} 


-p

Joseph McAllister wrote:

The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price every 3 
years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My Quicken 2006 
will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and there is no upgrade 
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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:03 PM, PN Stenquist wrote:

I do a lot of work beyond conversion and rendering, so I believe PS  
is better suited to my workflow than Lightroom.


I'm not entirely sure I understand what you meant, Paul. What do you  
mean by beyond conversion and rendering? I don't understand what  
distinction you're making there.


With respect to my image processing, Lightroom does the heavy lifting  
along with the image management and organizational work. Photoshop  
does in image processing what LR cannot. My workflow uses both  
applications integrated together seamlessly.


I use Photoshop for a lot of other things too, only peripherally  
associated with image processing needs, so I wouldn't be without it. I  
don't know that I need the latest version ... yet ... simply because  
I'm still running on Apple PowerPC and CS2 is doing what I need for  
the moment. For an Apple Intel system, I would have placed the order  
two weeks ago. ;-)


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Re: PESO: radical experience

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Some more industrial nights and magic from Liège:

 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/855640/display/14723576

 As always... :-)

Terrific shot.

As always...

;-)

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RE: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Bob W
Did you ever travel with it? It's one thing for it to be good in the shop, quite
another for it to be good when you're on top of a Himalaya waiting for the storm
to clear! (not that I've ever been in that situation)


 
 The Velbon Ultra Luxi F is the travel tripod I really want.  Back when
 I worked at Reed's, I got to use a lot of tripods, and this one was the
 best travel tripod I ever tried.  It's small when folded up but just as
 tall as a regular tripod when extended.  It's very light and yet
 well-built.  The head is good for its size, and can be replaced with any
 other head, I believe.  The center column can be truncated for
 low-to-the-ground shooting, as well as flipped if you want the camera
 upside down.  The legs use a twist-lock mechanism, making them VERY
 quick to extend and retract.  The legs also can be positioned in a wide
 range of angles, to accommodate the terrain.
 
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00022UE8O
 
 Sorry to be so verbose about it, but I really do think it's a great
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RE: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread John Celio
 The Velbon Ultra Luxi F is the travel tripod I really want. 
snip
 Did you ever travel with it?

I didn't, since I've never been in a position to be able to afford a
second tripod (my current tripod is a Velbon El Carmagne 640, another
very good model. Velbon seems to be underrated most of the time.),
however I did hear back from a few people I sold it to, and they seemed
very pleased with it.  One guy took it up into the Sierra Nevada range
with him, and he didn't say anything about having problems with it.

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Re: GESO - Cape May Wildwood, NJ

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 An album from our recent vacation to Cape May and Wildwood, New Jersey:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/sets/72157607770191688/

 I rented a DA*300/4 from www.cameralensrentals.com for the trip,
 with an eye toward buying it next summer.  Good service from the
 company, and I found it to be an outstanding lens.  Sharp and
 contrasty from f/4, with no noticeable CA or purple fringing.

 My K10D have me some AF trouble, mostly trying to shoot birds in
 flight.  If the bird ever slipped off the AF sensor, and the camera
 only saw clear blue sky, it would send the lens to the close-focus
 limit, and stay there (with the AF hexagon blinking).  Releasing and
 re-pressing the shutter wouldn't budge it, nor would switching between
 AF.C and AF.S, nor would turning the camera off and back on.  I had to
 switch to MF, move the lens focus out, and then switch back to AF.  I
 was able to reproduce this problem on the DA*300, my Tamron 70-300,
 and my DA 18-55.  Now that I'm back home, and thinking of sending the
 camera in for service, I can't reproduce it any more.  :-/

Late commenting, but it's a great album!

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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Derby Chang

Christine Aguila wrote:
Just printed out my first 13 x 19 BW on Ultra Premium Matte.  Yee 
Ha!!! If I do say so myself, it looks so cool.  This printing is so 
much fun. Here's the photo:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8080119size=lg

For the past couple of months, I've been photographing the 
construction that is taking place at my work.  We're getting a 6-7 
story indoor parking building and a beautiful new student services 
building.   The architectural renderings are now on exhibit in the 
lobby of our main campus building  about 15 of my BWs will also be on 
exhibit as soon as the framing is done. During the next 18 months, 
we'll be rotating photos that tell the story and progression of the 
construction.


I have full access to the construction site and  have my own hard hat, 
which I must obviously wear.  I had to read a safety manual  have to 
follow the safety rules.  When I can shoot, I call down, and a young 
(and usually cute :-)) assistant foreman lets me on site, then escorts 
me around.  He usually says things like, Christine, watch out for 
that boulder ahead of you, (like when I'm walking  have my nose 
behind the camera) or I have him explain to me what it is I'm seeing, 
since I know absolutely nothing about construction, though I am 
learning, and it's very interesting.  I've always admired what man can 
build.


I'm using the K20D with the DA 16-45mm.  Since the DA is F4, I put it 
on the K20, since that camera has really good High ISO quality if I 
need it.  The DA* 50-135mm is on the K10D, but today, when I shot the 
crusher grinding up huge boulders, I put the DA* on the K20D.  I 
didn't feel like doing any wide angle shots.  Anyway, I just felt like 
letting a Yee Ha loose :-).  Thanks for listening, if you, in fact, 
did ;-).


Cheers, Christine






Nice one, Christine. Will you be posting a gallery soon?

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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread PN Stenquist
I just meant that since I can only afford one or the other at the  
moment, the nod had to go to CS4. I might like Lightroom as a  
conversion and rendering tool. I haven't spent enough time with it to  
be certain. But I do know that CS1 doesn't take advantage of the Intel  
box speed, I need PhotoShop for image processing beyond what Lightroom  
does, and I need InDesign. So for now, I'm still a PhotoShop and Adobe  
Raw Converter boy.

Paul
On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:03 PM, PN Stenquist wrote:

I do a lot of work beyond conversion and rendering, so I believe PS  
is better suited to my workflow than Lightroom.


I'm not entirely sure I understand what you meant, Paul. What do you  
mean by beyond conversion and rendering? I don't understand what  
distinction you're making there.


With respect to my image processing, Lightroom does the heavy  
lifting along with the image management and organizational work.  
Photoshop does in image processing what LR cannot. My workflow uses  
both applications integrated together seamlessly.


I use Photoshop for a lot of other things too, only peripherally  
associated with image processing needs, so I wouldn't be without it.  
I don't know that I need the latest version ... yet ... simply  
because I'm still running on Apple PowerPC and CS2 is doing what I  
need for the moment. For an Apple Intel system, I would have placed  
the order two weeks ago. ;-)


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Re: PESO - Forever?

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Since you can't straighten it, we'll all tilt our monitors when we
 look at it grin.  Nice shot BTW...

Thanks, Bruce.  And thanks to everyone else who commented!

Never leave the house without a camera!

;-)

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Re: OT PESO - Suburban Lightshow

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:46 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 Took this one a couple of hours ago with the non Pentax camera (~105kb):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2969441818_f926077313_o.jpg

 It's going to be a wild  woolly night


The colours are amazing!

Is that what they looked like in real life?

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Re: tripod advice (again)

2008-10-24 Thread Carlos Royo



Subash escribió:


then it shouldn't be a problem on motored bike ;-). that, with a
486RC2, was another option i was thinking of. but there seems to be so
many 190s around (XDB3, CXPro4 and so on) it had/has me a little
confused. but thanks Bob, i'll do a little more homework..



Hi Subash:

I use a 190 with a 486RC2 ballhead. It is a great combo, but it isn't
exactly lightweight, at least in my view. It is very solid and doesn't
weight a lot, but there are probably better options for a travel tripod,
as you aren't going to use heavy lenses.

Carlos


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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread John Francis

Quicken updates come for free if you buy TurboTax DeLuxe.
It's generally been worth updating - Intuit products can
be very touchy about working with software firewalls, NAT
routers, etc.  Until the most recent version we had to
disable our firewall and/or use direct dial-up access to
be able to talk to some parts of the Intuit site :-(


On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:26:26PM -0500, Paul Sorenson wrote:
 Maybe you should consider moving to a Windows box...we're still running  
 Quicken 2000 on one of our XP machines.   ;} 

 -p

 Joseph McAllister wrote:

 The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price every 3  
 years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My Quicken 2006 
 will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and there is no upgrade  
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Re: Geso Photos from Thanksgiving weekend in Madawaska

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:39 AM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What Christine said. A couple of the IR shots are stunning. But I enjoyed
 all these. Great seeing your family. Thanks for sharing.

I'm late looking at these, but I agree with Paul and Christine!

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Re: PESO: Empire Pump

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Same feverish drive looking for targets for the new 20.
 This was taken near Grass Valley, CA at the played out Empire Gold Mine.
 Only memorialized for its weathered character.
 Being able to closely examine the RAW file, revealing the effects of time and 
 the elements, is my excuse for taking this.

Not that I'm an aficionado of old gas pumps, but I've never seen one
like that before.  That's pretty cool.

The photo's terrific - love the colours!

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Re: PESO: Picker's Palace

2008-10-24 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Took the K20D for a spin in the Sierra foothills today. Went through the 
 small settlement of Rough and Ready which was established in 1849 in the 
 Mother Load; ground zero of the '49 gold rush.
 Appears Picker's Palace has nothing directly to do with the nostrils, but, 
 as the banner states, Fruitjar Pickers. I gather guitars are involved.

I like it.  I agree with you WRT the mailboxes - they certainly
emphasize the rural setting.  Those old buildings with the facades
look like something out of an old western.

Nice shot!

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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Brian Walters
One way to keep using old software on newer operating systems is to
install a virtual machine onto which you install the older OS and
associated software.

On my Ubuntu Linux installation I've installed Virtual Box in which I
run Windows 2000 and Photoshop 6.

It works well, provided your computer has sufficient memory to run 2 OSs
at the same time (my machine has 1GB) and provided you have the older
operating system available.


Cheers

Brian

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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:54:49 -0700, Joseph McAllister
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 It's been a long long time since I've filled up my hard drives with  
 LimeWire downloads that I hardly or never used, and I understand the  
 corporate need to perpetuate.
 
 That being said, I get cranked every time I run into the invisible  
 wall created by the collusion of hardware and software producers,  
 causing you to HAVE to upgrade your software to run  on the newer  
 hardware, which you HAVE to buy because the software producer ceases  
 support for the older versions. Not a problem for the corporate worker- 
 bees, or government drones, but a substantial burden on the self  
 employed or retired.
 
 Most of what I do today I could still be doing in PS 4, Pagemaker 4,  
 Quicken 2000, and AppleWorks. But none of those will run on current  
 equipment, or are no longer around nor have any support, no minor  
 upgrades to run on newer hardware, not even an upgrade 'path'.
 
 The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price every 3  
 years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My Quicken  
 2006 will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and there is no  
 upgrade path. I just want to use it to keep track of my checkbook and  
 charges. I don't need all the 100s of NEW features for tracking my  
 investments, graphing everything in seventeen different forms. Back in  
 the 90s they even got the banks to change to a new form of download  
 files so you couldn't use the older versions of Quicken at all.
 
 So when I'm offered (as I am almost every day via email) the latest  
 greatest version of even $50 software, let alone $1400 stuff, for $.10  
 on the $1.00, it gives me pause for thought.
 
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Re: Inverters

2008-10-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/10/08, Mat Maessen, discombobulated, unleashed:

Solid-state inverters tend not to work well on anything with more than
a small electric motor in it. So angle grinding is probably out unless
you get a generator. :-)

ptui

Thems fightin' words.

I am going to try my angle grinder this weekend. 650 watts of pure metal
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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister

Bob W. Wrote:

It's possible to get a lot of the big name software for nothing, or  
next to
nothing, quite legitimately.  and   It's also fairly easy to get  
things for the student price by enrolling in a
course which gets you a proper student id.   and   If all that  
fails, then there is a lot of high-quality free software available,
such as OpenOffice which does a perfectly good job for most of the  
things that
MS Office does. Microsoft themselves give a lot of good stuff  
away.   and   Things like accountancy packages are available for  
nothing very easily, or are
very easy to deal with on spreadsheets. When I had my own business I  
did

everything in Excel. It helps to keep things simple.


That is partially true, Bob. With a bit of planning, I could enroll in  
a community college course for less than $100, if I was to purchase a  
high dollar software package. The rest of which you speak has to do  
with the 'evil empire', who, given their spotty support for the Mac  
platform over the years, is on my sh*t list forever.




Paul Sorenson wrote:

Maybe you should consider moving to a Windows box...we're still  
running Quicken 2000 on one of our XP machines.   ;} 


You are a facetious lout, sir...   :-)  More evil empire drivel...



Godfrey wrote:

If you just want to keep track of your checkbook and charges, why  
use quicken at all? Any simple database program can do that. I do it  
with a simple database I made a dozen or more years ago. I've  
migrated it through several different DB engines as things changed.  
It works fine.


Very little of what I do today with image processing was anywhere  
near as easy and productive to do in PS 4. Same for my writing and  
document creation comparing AppleWorks and Pages.


Because I'm a lazy dog, who doesn't want to be inputing every penny I  
spend into a database or spreadsheet. I like the idea of downloading  
the data from my bank(s), entering the minor cash purchases, then  
checking the balances and smiling at how clever that all is. And most  
of all, sucking it all back out into what used to be MacinTax, then  
TurboTax, to do my taxes every year.  I do use Pages now, though it  
surprises me all the time with crap built into it's templates that I  
don't want, and can't figure out how to get rid of. And I use Numbers  
as my spreadsheet engine - getting used to that as well, but have  
neither the expertise nor the patience to design and troubleshoot a  
personal financial package that would do my taxes as well.


On Oct 24, 2008, at 13:22 , John Francis wrote:

Quicken updates come for free if you buy TurboTax DeLuxe.
It's generally been worth updating - Intuit products can
be very touchy about working with software firewalls, NAT
routers, etc.  Until the most recent version we had to
disable our firewall and/or use direct dial-up access to
be able to talk to some parts of the Intuit site :-(


I stopped using TurboTax  after years of having a hard time finding a  
copy for the Mac. Now, you can buy an inexpensive copy for simple tax  
situations and no state (I live in a no income tax state) that runs on  
your PC, but if you want a Mac version, you must buy the Deluxe  
version, and not use 98% if it. So I have not been aware it would  
allow you to upgrade your Quicken, and frankly doubt very much if it  
would upgrade anything for the Mac, especially back to the 2006  
version. By the way, you cannot upgrade 2006 to 2008, and cannot buy  
(from Intuit) 2007, and the new 2009 is not available yet for the Mac  
(now called something like Financial Freedom). You think that sound  
like support for the Mac platform? I think Intuit is a tank-load of  
crap. You can tell them I said so.


Joseph McAllister
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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
Probably the best idea of them all. I have a license to install  
Parallels on my iMac. It's already working on my MacBook. And I have a  
borrowed copy of windows. But I've never heard of anyone running Mac  
OS 9.2.2 in it, nor do I have the windows versions of Quicken!  I do  
have a desktop G4 and a laptop G3 on which I could set up OSX that  
would still run Classic (OS-9) and still communicate on the network  
with my iMac. Good project before the end of the year. Thanks.


Joseph McAllister
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On Oct 24, 2008, at 14:15 , Brian Walters wrote:


One way to keep using old software on newer operating systems is to
install a virtual machine onto which you install the older OS and
associated software.

On my Ubuntu Linux installation I've installed Virtual Box in which I
run Windows 2000 and Photoshop 6.

It works well, provided your computer has sufficient memory to run 2  
OSs

at the same time (my machine has 1GB) and provided you have the older
operating system available.



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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Doug Franklin

Paul Sorenson wrote:
Maybe you should consider moving to a Windows box...we're still running 
Quicken 2000 on one of our XP machines.   ;} 



Joseph McAllister wrote:

The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price every 3 
years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My Quicken 
2006 will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and there is no 
upgrade path. 


Since Joe is on the Mac, and his needs are really simple, maybe he 
should consider GnuCash or one of the other open source options?


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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 24, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

If you just want to keep track of your checkbook and charges, why  
use quicken at all? Any simple database program can do that. I do  
it with a simple database I made a dozen or more years ago. I've  
migrated it through several different DB engines as things changed.  
It works fine.


Very little of what I do today with image processing was anywhere  
near as easy and productive to do in PS 4. Same for my writing and  
document creation comparing AppleWorks and Pages.


Because I'm a lazy dog, who doesn't want to be inputing every penny  
I spend into a database or spreadsheet. I like the idea of  
downloading the data from my bank(s), entering the minor cash  
purchases, then checking the balances and smiling at how clever that  
all is. And most of all, sucking it all back out into what used to  
be MacinTax, then TurboTax, to do my taxes every year.  I do use  
Pages now, though it surprises me all the time with crap built into  
it's templates that I don't want, and can't figure out how to get  
rid of. And I use Numbers as my spreadsheet engine - getting used to  
that as well, but have neither the expertise nor the patience to  
design and troubleshoot a personal financial package that would do  
my taxes as well.


1: You pay for your conveniences. Then complain. Inputting my daily  
receipts and expenditures takes a few minutes a day and costs me  
nothing.


2: Design your own templates for Pages that have what you want in  
them. Everything you need to know is in the built in Help, including  
tutorial videos on how to do things, never mind the automatic pointers  
to online help and discussion groups.


You do what you want to do. Such it is.

G

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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:59 PM, PN Stenquist wrote:

I just meant that since I can only afford one or the other at the  
moment, the nod had to go to CS4. I might like Lightroom as a  
conversion and rendering tool. I haven't spent enough time with it  
to be certain. But I do know that CS1 doesn't take advantage of the  
Intel box speed, I need PhotoShop for image processing beyond what  
Lightroom does, and I need InDesign. So for now, I'm still a  
PhotoShop and Adobe Raw Converter boy.



Photoshop, Bridge and Camera Raw constitutes a good image processing  
system. What do you use for image organization, cataloging and other  
management activities?


I am curious as to what it is that you do with Photoshop that is not  
possible in Lightroom 2. I know things like panorama stitching and  
compositing ... but I don't see too much of that in your posted  
photos. However, for an Apple Intel system, yes: you need CS3 or CS4  
as a minimum for good performance.


Peripheral to my image processing, I use PS CS2 for watermarking,  
borders, and other relatively light duty stuff. I also use it for  
designing layouts and other stuff like that. And yes, I could really  
use a copy of InDesign ...


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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread PN Stenquist
I've been using TurboTax, on a Mac, for at least ten years. These days  
I simply download it from the Intuit website. The software gets better  
every year, and it makes tax time a breeze, even for someone like me  
who has lots of itemized deductions and a schedule C.

Paul
On Oct 24, 2008, at 5:33 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:


Bob W. Wrote:

It's possible to get a lot of the big name software for nothing, or  
next to
nothing, quite legitimately.  and   It's also fairly easy to get  
things for the student price by enrolling in a
course which gets you a proper student id.   and   If all that  
fails, then there is a lot of high-quality free software available,
such as OpenOffice which does a perfectly good job for most of the  
things that
MS Office does. Microsoft themselves give a lot of good stuff  
away.   and   Things like accountancy packages are available for  
nothing very easily, or are
very easy to deal with on spreadsheets. When I had my own business  
I did

everything in Excel. It helps to keep things simple.


That is partially true, Bob. With a bit of planning, I could enroll  
in a community college course for less than $100, if I was to  
purchase a high dollar software package. The rest of which you speak  
has to do with the 'evil empire', who, given their spotty support  
for the Mac platform over the years, is on my sh*t list forever.




Paul Sorenson wrote:

Maybe you should consider moving to a Windows box...we're still  
running Quicken 2000 on one of our XP machines.   ;} 


You are a facetious lout, sir...   :-)  More evil empire drivel...



Godfrey wrote:

If you just want to keep track of your checkbook and charges, why  
use quicken at all? Any simple database program can do that. I do  
it with a simple database I made a dozen or more years ago. I've  
migrated it through several different DB engines as things changed.  
It works fine.


Very little of what I do today with image processing was anywhere  
near as easy and productive to do in PS 4. Same for my writing and  
document creation comparing AppleWorks and Pages.


Because I'm a lazy dog, who doesn't want to be inputing every penny  
I spend into a database or spreadsheet. I like the idea of  
downloading the data from my bank(s), entering the minor cash  
purchases, then checking the balances and smiling at how clever that  
all is. And most of all, sucking it all back out into what used to  
be MacinTax, then TurboTax, to do my taxes every year.  I do use  
Pages now, though it surprises me all the time with crap built into  
it's templates that I don't want, and can't figure out how to get  
rid of. And I use Numbers as my spreadsheet engine - getting used to  
that as well, but have neither the expertise nor the patience to  
design and troubleshoot a personal financial package that would do  
my taxes as well.


On Oct 24, 2008, at 13:22 , John Francis wrote:

Quicken updates come for free if you buy TurboTax DeLuxe.
It's generally been worth updating - Intuit products can
be very touchy about working with software firewalls, NAT
routers, etc.  Until the most recent version we had to
disable our firewall and/or use direct dial-up access to
be able to talk to some parts of the Intuit site :-(


I stopped using TurboTax  after years of having a hard time finding  
a copy for the Mac. Now, you can buy an inexpensive copy for simple  
tax situations and no state (I live in a no income tax state) that  
runs on your PC, but if you want a Mac version, you must buy the  
Deluxe version, and not use 98% if it. So I have not been aware it  
would allow you to upgrade your Quicken, and frankly doubt very much  
if it would upgrade anything for the Mac, especially back to the  
2006 version. By the way, you cannot upgrade 2006 to 2008, and  
cannot buy (from Intuit) 2007, and the new 2009 is not available yet  
for the Mac (now called something like Financial Freedom). You  
think that sound like support for the Mac platform? I think Intuit  
is a tank-load of crap. You can tell them I said so.


Joseph McAllister
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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Oct 24, 2008, at 14:42 , Doug Franklin wrote:


Joseph McAllister wrote:
The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price  
every 3 years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My  
Quicken 2006 will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and  
there is no upgrade path.


Since Joe is on the Mac, and his needs are really simple, maybe he  
should consider GnuCash or one of the other open source options?



Thanks, Doug. I just went and read the 'install' directions, and the  
'troubleshooting' instructions for GnuCash for OSX, and my eyes  
crossed and my head nodded half way through. As Godfrey has chastised  
me for my Scottish frugality and my ADD prevents me from tackling  
anything more complex than the settings on my K20, it looks like I  
just may have to re-enter the whirlpool of Intuit to meet my needs.


Rats!

Joseph McAllister
Pentaxian


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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread PN Stenquist
I do quite a bit of compositing, cloning and even some filter effects.  
Much more so for my commercial work than for the hobby photography  
that I generally show here. I don't know if everything I do can be  
accomplished in Lightroom. Perhaps.


I catalog simply by assigning a date and keywords to every new folder.  
I've been using the Browser as my file search and retrieval system.  
I'll now use Bridge. I had CS3 on my work computer and found Bridge  
quite adequate for my purposes.

Paul
On Oct 24, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:



On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:59 PM, PN Stenquist wrote:

I just meant that since I can only afford one or the other at the  
moment, the nod had to go to CS4. I might like Lightroom as a  
conversion and rendering tool. I haven't spent enough time with it  
to be certain. But I do know that CS1 doesn't take advantage of the  
Intel box speed, I need PhotoShop for image processing beyond what  
Lightroom does, and I need InDesign. So for now, I'm still a  
PhotoShop and Adobe Raw Converter boy.



Photoshop, Bridge and Camera Raw constitutes a good image processing  
system. What do you use for image organization, cataloging and other  
management activities?


I am curious as to what it is that you do with Photoshop that is not  
possible in Lightroom 2. I know things like panorama stitching and  
compositing ... but I don't see too much of that in your posted  
photos. However, for an Apple Intel system, yes: you need CS3 or CS4  
as a minimum for good performance.


Peripheral to my image processing, I use PS CS2 for watermarking,  
borders, and other relatively light duty stuff. I also use it for  
designing layouts and other stuff like that. And yes, I could really  
use a copy of InDesign ...


G

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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow, never knew you could do this--course I'm no computer whiz.  Thanks for 
the tip, Brian.  Cheers, Christine



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One way to keep using old software on newer operating systems is to
install a virtual machine onto which you install the older OS and
associated software.

On my Ubuntu Linux installation I've installed Virtual Box in which I
run Windows 2000 and Photoshop 6.

It works well, provided your computer has sufficient memory to run 2 OSs
at the same time (my machine has 1GB) and provided you have the older
operating system available.


Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/




On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:54:49 -0700, Joseph McAllister
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

It's been a long long time since I've filled up my hard drives with
LimeWire downloads that I hardly or never used, and I understand the
corporate need to perpetuate.

That being said, I get cranked every time I run into the invisible
wall created by the collusion of hardware and software producers,
causing you to HAVE to upgrade your software to run  on the newer
hardware, which you HAVE to buy because the software producer ceases
support for the older versions. Not a problem for the corporate worker-
bees, or government drones, but a substantial burden on the self
employed or retired.

Most of what I do today I could still be doing in PS 4, Pagemaker 4,
Quicken 2000, and AppleWorks. But none of those will run on current
equipment, or are no longer around nor have any support, no minor
upgrades to run on newer hardware, not even an upgrade 'path'.

The worst is Quicken, who forces you to upgrade at full price every 3
years, as they roll off support for the older versions. My Quicken
2006 will not run on my iMac under 10.4 or later, and there is no
upgrade path. I just want to use it to keep track of my checkbook and
charges. I don't need all the 100s of NEW features for tracking my
investments, graphing everything in seventeen different forms. Back in
the 90s they even got the banks to change to a new form of download
files so you couldn't use the older versions of Quicken at all.

So when I'm offered (as I am almost every day via email) the latest
greatest version of even $50 software, let alone $1400 stuff, for $.10
on the $1.00, it gives me pause for thought.

Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time


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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila
In a book on Lightroom, the author made the claim that Lightroom is not very 
good for professional quality sharpening.  The recommendation is to do 
rendering in Lightroom, then open image in PS for final sharpening.  This 
surprised me.  I'd be interested in knowing what list folks think.  The book 
is S. Kelby's Adobe PS Lightroom Book for Dig.  Photogs.  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila


From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Will you be posting a gallery soon?


Thanks, Derby.  Just a small one--maybe I'll put a 6 pic one together this 
weekend.   Cheers, Christine




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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-24 Thread Christine Aguila


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Sounds like you have a neat arrangement @ the construction site - go 
get'em girl !



Hey, big thanks, Ken.  Your comment really cheered me up.  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
See, that makes so much sense. My personality is such that I would  
bitch to the floor person at Costco for 30 minutes about no standard  
version of TurboTax in an attempt to save $15 over an online download  
(if it is in fact available in that version for the Mac) based  
primarily on the principle of the thing, i.e.: windows vs Mac support  
by any vendor. Any of you Mac users try to get any of the free perks  
that Comcast offers for it's customers?  Windows only - no  
compensation for loss of value to Mac users - 16 years now.


Yes, I know it's unreasonable, especially for someone who HAS to have  
the latest Pentax bodies, but holds on dearly (unsuccessfully, of  
late) to his collection of older high dollar glass, and HAS to have  
the latest greatest Macs, yet whines about the older software not  
running on it.


I'll shut up now. Back to whatever you all were up to when I got up  
this morning!   :-)



Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

On Oct 24, 2008, at 14:54 , PN Stenquist wrote:

I've been using TurboTax, on a Mac, for at least ten years. These  
days I simply download it from the Intuit website. The software gets  
better every year, and it makes tax time a breeze, even for someone  
like me who has lots of itemized deductions and a schedule C.



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Re: PS CS4

2008-10-24 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/24/08, Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks, Doug. I just went and read the 'install' directions, and the
 'troubleshooting' instructions for GnuCash for OSX, and my eyes crossed and
 my head nodded half way through. As Godfrey has chastised me for my Scottish
 frugality and my ADD prevents me from tackling anything more complex than
 the settings on my K20, it looks like I just may have to re-enter the
 whirlpool of Intuit to meet my needs.

You're not trying to compile it from source, are you?  Read this:
http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOSXInstallation

apt-get is very easy to use.

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