RE: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentaxlooks pretty good )
Why all this obsession with taking pictures? I thought this list was supposed to be for endless kibitzing about equipment? sometimes people just need a break from the routine. Anyway, I think the normal internet protocol is to passionately pump the validity of such tests if they support the poster's opinion and to mercilessly criticize them as useless or worse if they don't. it's called 'confirmation bias'. Fortunately the people on this list seem less prone to it than others. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO--From the Museum Balcony
I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
Love the fishy one. Cheers, Dave 2009/2/5 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
Excellent. Did you paint that close section of the fence with a flashlight/torch? Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 2/4/09, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com Subject: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:30 PM G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg D700, AF 20mm f2.8D, 31 seconds @ f4, ISO 6400. Enjoy, Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentaxlooks pretty good )
[...] By the way John, there were all sorts of critters (mostly birds, and at least one bunny) hanging out around the bridge when there weren't a lot of morris dancers jumping around. Those bastards again! They're always driving away wildlife. Time someone took responsibility for the planet's welfare and shot them all! I mean, look at this lot. No wildlife anywhere to be seen, all driven away, and look at the way they're using up so much of the world's ever-diminishing stock of kerchiefs and colourful rags. They're even playing accordions. Definitely not gentlemen. http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6207822_large.html Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Barn from across the street
Very nice. I'd like to see the color versions, too. The white snow, red barn, brown grasses seem appealing. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 2/4/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso Barn from across the street
I prefer those to the red barn shots. Very atmospheric. You've captioned it as an old bar - would be quite nice to reopen it with some nice local beers and ciders. Bob -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks Sent: 05 February 2009 00:22 To: Pentax Discuss; Barbara Brooks; Harry Bolton Subject: Peso Barn from across the street Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
I love the way the architecture of the building evokes a skeletal ribcase, and the way you've photographed it emphasises that very well. I didn't realise until I saw one of your earlier photos - and it should have been obvious to me - that the dodo in the museum was the model for Lewis Carroll's dodo. Bob I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fotostation - and XMP-data - and GPS
Hi Jens, Re: GPS data I think a third party device and subsequent synchronisation through software is the only way to go. If you shoot raw files I guess you want a unit that can compare your GPS data to the timestamp in the raw file and then write an XMP file with the correct metadata beside the raw file. Ideally, this software should run automatically when you upload to the computer. In that way it would at least not steal any time, even if you don't save any. I do not know if such a device/software exists, and I do not know the Sony unit in detail. :-( Hope you are able to find something for your needs. Re: FotoStation I honestly think FotoStation is a mastodont. It is a huge system that aims to compete in the arena of newspaper image desks, stock agencies etc. For example, it contains functions for accounting and following up of payments, streamlined functions to keep track of sales volumes etc. etc. If you look at what it actually does that a personal photographer with a production of, say, less than 10.000 images per year, there are many programs that will do the job as good or better for considerably less money. I have used ThumbsPlus v7 since I got the *istD, but with the major upgrade (v8) in the pipelines I have been researching the market to see if other products provide more bang for the bucks. Right now I'm having a serious look at IDimager, which has some very neat functions for versioning of files that I haven't found anywhere else. However I am not yet acquainted with Lightroom, and I suspect there are similar functionality in there (Thanks for the tip, Tim Ø.). ThumbsPlus is on par with FotoStation for searchability and organising features. I thought ACDsee PRO was decent too, but I haven't really looked at it. However I have looked at Photoshop Elements 6, and thought that was quite decent for its price. In the Mac-world there is of course Aperture, and there are a couple of dual-platform products too beside Adobe's. One is Expression Media from Microsoft (formerly iView), another is PhotoMechanic. I would say both of them are on par with FotoStation. Note, however, that the Microsoft offering depends on plug-ins from camera vendors to view raw files in Windows environments. Pentax's plugin for PEFs is only for 32-bit versions of Windows. There are also some new products that are actually upload managers for microstock. They are of course specifically designed to keep track of what you have uploaded where, but do have some run-of-the-mill organising functions for the single photographers as well. Keywording is alpha and omega with microstock, so I expect good functionality there. I'm not sure about raw file support, though. I haven't looked at them in detail yet, but a google search for microstock image organiser or something like that should take you there. Here are the links I have archived: ThumbsPlus: http://www.cerious.com IDimager: http://www.idimager.com/ PhotoMechanic: http://www.camerabits.com/site/index.html Expression Media: http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/overview.aspx?key=media Aperture: http://www.apple.com/dk/aperture/ (Danish language version, specially for you Jensg) LightRoom: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/ Good luck in your search, Jens. May the best archive system put us in its fold... :-) Cheers, Jostein 2009/2/5 Jens p...@planfoto.dk: Helle list I've been looking for a good database tool for photographs. Played arround with ACDSee, but it's not that good. I've been looking a some inexpensive products like iTag and StudioLine PhotoBasic 3. They seem a little cumbersome and slow. Now, I use Fotostastation Pro (500 Euro), which runs fine. All my files can be filed in no order att all, still I'm ableto find my shots using the tags/keywords or the date. I have contacted the Danish Fotosdtaion/Fotoware resellers, and they have agreed to give me a commision, when I make a contact that resluts in a Fotostation sale. So, when I vistit my costumers to make an appointment about photographing, I bring some bruchures with me and tell them a little about Fotostation. I hope this will give me a small, additional income over the years :-) What do you guys think of Fotostation? Now I really miss a camera plug-in device, for PENTAX thank you very much, that will give me the opportunity to tag my photographs (XMP-data) as I shoot. I would very much like this device to give me GPS data as well, if possible. I have contacted the Danish import company, but they don't seem to understand what I'm talking about. I don't wnat to switch to Nikon or Canon in order to get something like this. What could I do? I do know, tha SONY makes an inexpensive device, that tracks the time and the GPS data. But I have to run it through software to get the GEO codes in my image files. That takes time. I need to SAVE time :-). Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML
RE: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
Thanks, Bob! You're right about the Dodo. There are actually a couple of large display cases devoted to the Lewis Carroll stories. He was an Oxford don (actual name Charles Dodgson) who spun the yarns to interest his friends' daughter Alice in natural history. He was eventually prevailed upon to write them down. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Subject: RE: PESO--From the Museum Balcony To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 3:44 AM I love the way the architecture of the building evokes a skeletal ribcase, and the way you've photographed it emphasises that very well. I didn't realise until I saw one of your earlier photos - and it should have been obvious to me - that the dodo in the museum was the model for Lewis Carroll's dodo. Bob I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentax looks pretty good )
2009/2/5 Mark Erickson m...@westerickson.net: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? I thought this list was supposed to be for endless kibitzing about equipment? Anyway, I think the normal internet protocol is to passionately pump the validity of such tests if they support the poster's opinion and to mercilessly criticize them as useless or worse if they don't. --Mark p.s., I like the results I get with my K10D, tests or no tests Fortunately this list is more passionate about other things than measurbation. I agree with Godfrey. Digital SLRs have long since passed the threshold where Good became Good Enough. For most applications anyway. :-) Jostein (who recently envied a guy with a high-FPS Nikon for one particular application) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot - sad news
Very sad news indeed. My condolences to you and all your family and friends for such a loss. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot - sad news
Sorry to hear that. My condolences. Jaume - Mensaje original De: Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br Para: pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jueves, 5 de febrero, 2009 1:01:42 Asunto: ot - sad news This is really off topic, but the issue was already posted here to some point. I think a closure is needed. After a serious battle our niece passed away few hours ago. She and a friend were involved in a motorcycle accident, and despite our efforts and the extraordinary help received from friends, relatives, the medics and crew of Instituto dr. José Frota here in Fortaleza, volunteers and perfect strangers, didn´t survive the extensive trauma. Our thanks for those efforts, prayers, kind words and toughts. They made all the difference. Somehow we carry on. During these last few days I became unable to manage properly this mail account, and possibly some of you received returned mail due to exceeded capacity, for wich I apologize. Good walking leaves no tracks behind Good speech leaves no mark to be picked at We remember. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
Works for me, Brian! Jostein 2009/2/5 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: G'day all A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like the light. I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, but, but. Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different… -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot - sad news
Missed your post about the accident, but sorry to hear you lost your niece. Take care of yourself and everyone around you. Condolances, Jostein 2009/2/5 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br: This is really off topic, but the issue was already posted here to some point. I think a closure is needed. After a serious battle our niece passed away few hours ago. She and a friend were involved in a motorcycle accident, and despite our efforts and the extraordinary help received from friends, relatives, the medics and crew of Instituto dr. José Frota here in Fortaleza, volunteers and perfect strangers, didn´t survive the extensive trauma. Our thanks for those efforts, prayers, kind words and toughts. They made all the difference. Somehow we carry on. During these last few days I became unable to manage properly this mail account, and possibly some of you received returned mail due to exceeded capacity, for wich I apologize. Good walking leaves no tracks behind Good speech leaves no mark to be picked at We remember. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
Me too. DS 2009/2/5 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Works for me, Brian! Jostein 2009/2/5 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: G'day all A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like the light. I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, but, but. Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot - sad news
I'm sorry to hear that Luiz. Dave 2009/2/5 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br: This is really off topic, but the issue was already posted here to some point. I think a closure is needed. After a serious battle our niece passed away few hours ago. She and a friend were involved in a motorcycle accident, and despite our efforts and the extraordinary help received from friends, relatives, the medics and crew of Instituto dr. José Frota here in Fortaleza, volunteers and perfect strangers, didn´t survive the extensive trauma. Our thanks for those efforts, prayers, kind words and toughts. They made all the difference. Somehow we carry on. During these last few days I became unable to manage properly this mail account, and possibly some of you received returned mail due to exceeded capacity, for wich I apologize. Good walking leaves no tracks behind Good speech leaves no mark to be picked at We remember. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
The fisheye makes for a much more dramatic image. I just love that building! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:23:54 -0800 (PST), Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com said: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Rick -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux
Thanks Christine. I think I'll convert the newer ones as well. I first showed them all as color, but later decided I preferred them as BW. In rendering the new batch I wanted to get the color as close to correct as possible as a first step. When I first showed this set on the Leica forum more than five years ago, it was titled Trailer Park Trash, and it caused quite an uproar and a long debate. The photos are all staged of course, so I never felt that title was demeaning, but it apparently offended some. Paul On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: These are great, Paul, especially the bw, and most especially this one http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5670843 Love it! Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed this GESO. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: GESO: Trailer Park Princess Redux I was looking through some negatives yesterday and ran across the pics I shot at a trailer park in 2003. Those who've been around for awhile saw the ones I originally posted. Later I came back with some BW versions. Looking through the machine prints that were with the negs, I found some that I never printed that I now like. They're all 35mm (whereas most of the earlier ones were MF), and they were shot at dusk on Portra 400, so they're grainy. I scanned the negs on my Epson 3200 and had to sharpen quite a bit which made them even grainier, so they're far from perfect. But I like them. I'm probably going to scan some more shots when I have time. The color pics in this folder are the new scans, none of which have been shown before. The camera, by the way, was my LX. Not sure about the lens, but it was probably the SMC Pentax 50/1.4. I know I used some flash. I think it was the AF 400T firing into a reflector. The folder is here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=701586 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Trailer Park Princess Redux
Thanks for that. I know where to go if I ever make a slide show:-). Paul On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Here's the soundtrack to that set: http://unhitched.com/ -- It's not the steps in the dance, it's the dance in the steps. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
Love the textures, Brian! Yes, it does appear that the ropes are a 'posed' arrangement. Worth working on. Jack --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: PESO - Is this just too clichéd? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 3:00 AM G'day all A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like the light. I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, but, but. Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different… -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
G'day all A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like the light. I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, but, but. Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux
Paul, Interesting pictures. I am up in the air regarding the BW vs Color. Given the subject, can refer to this as a canned performance? John Graves WA1JG Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks Christine. I think I'll convert the newer ones as well. I first showed them all as color, but later decided I preferred them as BW. In rendering the new batch I wanted to get the color as close to correct as possible as a first step. When I first showed this set on the Leica forum more than five years ago, it was titled Trailer Park Trash, and it caused quite an uproar and a long debate. The photos are all staged of course, so I never felt that title was demeaning, but it apparently offended some. Paul On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: These are great, Paul, especially the bw, and most especially this one http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5670843 Love it! Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed this GESO. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: GESO: Trailer Park Princess Redux I was looking through some negatives yesterday and ran across the pics I shot at a trailer park in 2003. Those who've been around for awhile saw the ones I originally posted. Later I came back with some BW versions. Looking through the machine prints that were with the negs, I found some that I never printed that I now like. They're all 35mm (whereas most of the earlier ones were MF), and they were shot at dusk on Portra 400, so they're grainy. I scanned the negs on my Epson 3200 and had to sharpen quite a bit which made them even grainier, so they're far from perfect. But I like them. I'm probably going to scan some more shots when I have time. The color pics in this folder are the new scans, none of which have been shown before. The camera, by the way, was my LX. Not sure about the lens, but it was probably the SMC Pentax 50/1.4. I know I used some flash. I think it was the AF 400T firing into a reflector. The folder is here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=701586 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 02/04/09 08:24:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot - sad news
Luis, I pray that time will help mend the hole left in you and your families lives. My prayers go with you. John Graves WA1JG 2009/2/5 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br: This is really off topic, but the issue was already posted here to some point. I think a closure is needed. After a serious battle our niece passed away few hours ago. She and a friend were involved in a motorcycle accident, and despite our efforts and the extraordinary help received from friends, relatives, the medics and crew of Instituto dr. José Frota here in Fortaleza, volunteers and perfect strangers, didn´t survive the extensive trauma. Our thanks for those efforts, prayers, kind words and toughts. They made all the difference. Somehow we carry on. During these last few days I became unable to manage properly this mail account, and possibly some of you received returned mail due to exceeded capacity, for wich I apologize. Good walking leaves no tracks behind Good speech leaves no mark to be picked at We remember. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 02/03/09 07:57:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
Thanks Paul. Cheers, Dave 2009/2/5 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Gorgeous. A great shot. Paul On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:30 PM, David Savage wrote: G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
Thanks Dave. Hot dry conditions are almost as good as cold and dry for star gazing. The heat however doesn't play nice with the camera :-) Cheers, Dave 2009/2/5 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Great star detail for 31. It sounds like very clear skies in thet neck of the woods, Like the bit of fill flash on the fence Dave On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:30 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
Thanks Walt. Would be fun to play with a telescope. One day perhaps. Cheers, Dave 2009/2/5 Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com: Excellent! It looks just like I remember my first dark sky views of the Magellanic Clouds and the Southern Milky Way back in the late 70's in NZ's South Island. That D-700 should be a great imaging tool hooked up to a scope!! Walt On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:30 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
Thanks Larry. Cheers, Dave 2009/2/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:30:00AM +0900, David Savage wrote: # G'day All. # # Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) # # http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg Very nice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
Thanks Christine. I couldn't get to where I wanted to be because of the fence so I had to make do :-) Cheers, Dave 2009/2/5 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: That's a great shot, Dave. Including the fence is perfect. Just love it! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land... G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
2009/2/5 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: Excellent. Thank you sir/ Did you paint that close section of the fence with a flashlight/torch? Indeed I did. My LED mini maglite is a very hand portable light source :-) Cheers, Dave --- On Wed, 2/4/09, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com Subject: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:30 PM G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
2009/2/5 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: Looks like you have a lot of hot pixels ! Well if they are there they add to the effect :-) Nice capture, you sure you didn't clone in some stars. ;+] Hehehe.. Didn't need to :-) Cheers, Dave - Original Message - From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com Subject: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land... G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
David Savage wrote: G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg D700, AF 20mm f2.8D, 31 seconds @ f4, ISO 6400. Enjoy, Stunning. you sucketh, Dave because you have access to those areas. I'd have to take a 4 hour plane ride to get anywhere near that kind of darkness. Even the mountains of West Virginia have light pollution from the megalopolis that is the East Coast of the US. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
Rick Womer wrote: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Rick I like the fisheye one best. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
I'm afrayed so. (-; Really, it's very nice. I've always been a fan of pictures that feature textures and geometry. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:00 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO - Is this just too clichéd? G'day all A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like the light. I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, but, but. Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:498ac6d680291648561563! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
Both pretty cool photos. You've inspired me to dig out the Fish-Eye-Takumar 17mm f/4 and give it a go on the G1 today. I don't have a lot of time to do much shooting, but I'll give it a try at the cafe when I'm there for breakfast. Godfrey On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:23 AM, Rick Womer wrote: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Andre Kertesz in Toronto
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Thanks for the heads up, I'll try and make the Opening 95% chance I'll be there on Saturday. Bring your Pannie - I want to play... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:00 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html I like the composition, good still life work in that. The contrast and shadows seem too harsh to my eye. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Two Conversations
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/coffee-in-market.html Comments always welcome. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like the light. I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, but, but. Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html Don't think cliche, think genre. ;-) I like it a lot, although I'd have preferred ~not~ knowing that you arranged the ropes. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Now this is a turnabout: I'll take what seems to be a somewhat contrary view and say that I prefer the shot taken with the 16-45. I love the way you use your fisheye, but with these photos, the rectilinear shot works best to my eye. Looks like an amazing building, and you certainly captured it well. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:30 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg D700, AF 20mm f2.8D, 31 seconds @ f4, ISO 6400. Enjoy, Another Wow! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot - sad news
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote: This is really off topic, but the issue was already posted here to some point. I think a closure is needed. After a serious battle our niece passed away few hours ago. She and a friend were involved in a motorcycle accident, and despite our efforts and the extraordinary help received from friends, relatives, the medics and crew of Instituto dr. José Frota here in Fortaleza, volunteers and perfect strangers, didn´t survive the extensive trauma. Our thanks for those efforts, prayers, kind words and toughts. They made all the difference. Somehow we carry on. During these last few days I became unable to manage properly this mail account, and possibly some of you received returned mail due to exceeded capacity, for wich I apologize. Good walking leaves no tracks behind Good speech leaves no mark to be picked at We remember. My condolences, Luiz. regards, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Trailer Park Princess Redux
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I was looking through some negatives yesterday and ran across the pics I shot at a trailer park in 2003. Those who've been around for awhile saw the ones I originally posted. Later I came back with some BW versions. Looking through the machine prints that were with the negs, I found some that I never printed that I now like. They're all 35mm (whereas most of the earlier ones were MF), and they were shot at dusk on Portra 400, so they're grainy. I scanned the negs on my Epson 3200 and had to sharpen quite a bit which made them even grainier, so they're far from perfect. But I like them. I'm probably going to scan some more shots when I have time. The color pics in this folder are the new scans, none of which have been shown before. The camera, by the way, was my LX. Not sure about the lens, but it was probably the SMC Pentax 50/1.4. I know I used some flash. I think it was the AF 400T firing into a reflector. The folder is here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=701586 Paul I remember these from when you first posted them. It was a wonderful series then, no less so now. Great essay! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentaxlooks pretty good )
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6207822_large.html Which one's Morris? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Barn from across the street
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:21 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. I definitely like the second one. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Colour version. WAS Peso Barn from across the street
Colour version http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8573441 Not from the same two photos, but basically the same angle with a tighter field crop. Dave On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:21 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Barn from across the street
Thanks Jack for the insight. I think this might make a decent IR subject in the spring. Get the G3 warmed up and in use then. Dave On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Barns, houses and out building in this and worse condition are more interesting to me. The mass of this complex makes it difficult to find ones way. Interest has no place to settle, so to speak. Might be a challenge worth accepting however. Jack --- On Wed, 2/4/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Peso Barn from across the street To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Harry Bolton bolt...@mmm.ca Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 4:21 PM Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Barn from across the street
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Very nice. I'd like to see the color versions, too. The white snow, red barn, brown grasses seem appealing. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 2/4/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Barn from across the street
No red barn here, just an old weather one. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8573441 Dave On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:52 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Very nice. I'd like to see the color versions, too. The white snow, red barn, brown grasses seem appealing. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 2/4/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mock Tudor with a squirrel on top
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: He's rather well liked out west. But so is William Lyon Mackenzie. The West? You mean like Goderich? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land...
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:46 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/5 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: Excellent. Thank you sir/ Did you paint that close section of the fence with a flashlight/torch? Indeed I did. My LED mini maglite is a very hand portable light source :-) How long did you need to paint for. Dave Cheers, Dave --- On Wed, 2/4/09, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com Subject: OT PESO - Oh Give Me Land, Lots of Land... To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:30 PM G'day All. Here is another shot from the ghost town of Kookynie (~205kb) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3252660515_f0f8016558_o.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
Thanks, Godfrey! Methinks your 17mm fisheye won't be very fishy on the 4/3 camera--won't it be the equivalent of 35mm on a 35mm camera? My F 17-24 fisheye isn't very fishy on the istD and K10D. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com Subject: Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 9:07 AM Both pretty cool photos. You've inspired me to dig out the Fish-Eye-Takumar 17mm f/4 and give it a go on the G1 today. I don't have a lot of time to do much shooting, but I'll give it a try at the cafe when I'm there for breakfast. Godfrey On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:23 AM, Rick Womer wrote: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
Thanks, Frank! (I actually prefer the rectilinear view, too.) Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 2/5/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Now this is a turnabout: I'll take what seems to be a somewhat contrary view and say that I prefer the shot taken with the 16-45. I love the way you use your fisheye, but with these photos, the rectilinear shot works best to my eye. Looks like an amazing building, and you certainly captured it well. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Colour version. WAS Peso Barn from across the street
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:51 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Colour version http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8573441 Not from the same two photos, but basically the same angle with a tighter field crop. I still like #2 of the bw's best. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fotostation - and XMP-data - and GPS
Jens, If you check the archives, I think you might find a thread about geotagging. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Jens p...@planfoto.dk wrote: From: Jens p...@planfoto.dk Subject: Fotostation - and XMP-data - and GPS To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 12:43 AM Helle list I've been looking for a good database tool for photographs. Played arround with ACDSee, but it's not that good. I've been looking a some inexpensive products like iTag and StudioLine PhotoBasic 3. They seem a little cumbersome and slow. Now, I use Fotostastation Pro (500 Euro), which runs fine. All my files can be filed in no order att all, still I'm ableto find my shots using the tags/keywords or the date. I have contacted the Danish Fotosdtaion/Fotoware resellers, and they have agreed to give me a commision, when I make a contact that resluts in a Fotostation sale. So, when I vistit my costumers to make an appointment about photographing, I bring some bruchures with me and tell them a little about Fotostation. I hope this will give me a small, additional income over the years :-) What do you guys think of Fotostation? Now I really miss a camera plug-in device, for PENTAX thank you very much, that will give me the opportunity to tag my photographs (XMP-data) as I shoot. I would very much like this device to give me GPS data as well, if possible. I have contacted the Danish import company, but they don't seem to understand what I'm talking about. I don't wnat to switch to Nikon or Canon in order to get something like this. What could I do? I do know, tha SONY makes an inexpensive device, that tracks the time and the GPS data. But I have to run it through software to get the GEO codes in my image files. That takes time. I need to SAVE time :-). Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Two Conversations
Frank, I like the two conversations. The foreground guy, I'm trying to interpret the expression he has. Looks like something uncomfortable is happening between them. (And I wish the bike seat/post was not so prominent covering his hand.) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:18 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/coffee-in-market.html Comments always welcome. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fotostation - and XMP-data - and GPS
Jens - Check out Downloader Pro by BreezeSystems. I think it will do what you are looking for. http://www.breezesys.com/Downloader/whatsnew2.htm -p Jens wrote: Helle list I've been looking for a good database tool for photographs. Played arround with ACDSee, but it's not that good. I've been looking a some inexpensive products like iTag and StudioLine PhotoBasic 3. They seem a little cumbersome and slow. Now, I use Fotostastation Pro (500 Euro), which runs fine. All my files can be filed in no order att all, still I'm ableto find my shots using the tags/keywords or the date. I have contacted the Danish Fotosdtaion/Fotoware resellers, and they have agreed to give me a commision, when I make a contact that resluts in a Fotostation sale. So, when I vistit my costumers to make an appointment about photographing, I bring some bruchures with me and tell them a little about Fotostation. I hope this will give me a small, additional income over the years :-) What do you guys think of Fotostation? Now I really miss a camera plug-in device, for PENTAX thank you very much, that will give me the opportunity to tag my photographs (XMP-data) as I shoot. I would very much like this device to give me GPS data as well, if possible. I have contacted the Danish import company, but they don't seem to understand what I'm talking about. I don't wnat to switch to Nikon or Canon in order to get something like this. What could I do? I do know, tha SONY makes an inexpensive device, that tracks the time and the GPS data. But I have to run it through software to get the GEO codes in my image files. That takes time. I need to SAVE time :-). Regards Jens No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
I certainly hear what you are saying. I am seeing it get even worse in the wedding industry concerning Post Process vs shooting. Not only do the shots need to be technically correct, but I am seeing an increasing trend in 'artistic enhancement' becoming the norm and expectation of the brides. This goes beyond the normal processing one would do. I would rather be out shooting the wedding than altering images to be more 'artsy'... -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 10:58:51 PM, you wrote: J Snip J Maby film is not such a good idea, anyway. But I just hate having J to spend so many hours at the computer. I'd rather go make money with my cameras. J Regards J Jens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
There can never be too much cliché! -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, February 5, 2009, 3:00:25 AM, you wrote: BW G'day all BW A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like BW the light. BW I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, BW but, but. BW Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? BW (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) BW http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html BW Cheers BW Brian BW ++ BW Brian Walters BW Western Sydney Australia BW http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ BW -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
Brian, Good stuff! Don't tell anybody you arranged the ropes! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like the light. I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, but, but. Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different… -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Trailer Park Princess Redux
I remember the original posting; it's still nice. Pretty classy princess, too--she's drinking Bud instead of Busch or Bud Lite. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I was looking through some negatives yesterday and ran across the pics I shot at a trailer park in 2003. Those who've been around for awhile saw the ones I originally posted. Later I came back with some BW versions. Looking through the machine prints that were with the negs, I found some that I never printed that I now like. They're all 35mm (whereas most of the earlier ones were MF), and they were shot at dusk on Portra 400, so they're grainy. I scanned the negs on my Epson 3200 and had to sharpen quite a bit which made them even grainier, so they're far from perfect. But I like them. I'm probably going to scan some more shots when I have time. The color pics in this folder are the new scans, none of which have been shown before. The camera, by the way, was my LX. Not sure about the lens, but it was probably the SMC Pentax 50/1.4. I know I used some flash. I think it was the AF 400T firing into a reflector. The folder is here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=701586 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
The 17mm fisheye isn't very fishey on APS-C either. It does evidence lots of barrel distortion, and it appears to be wider than the 1.5x crop would predict, mostly due to it's fisheye nature, field curvature isn't uniform across the frame, only in concentric circles... -Original Message- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 9:56 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony Thanks, Godfrey! Methinks your 17mm fisheye won't be very fishy on the 4/3 camera--won't it be the equivalent of 35mm on a 35mm camera? My F 17-24 fisheye isn't very fishy on the istD and K10D. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com Subject: Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 9:07 AM Both pretty cool photos. You've inspired me to dig out the Fish-Eye-Takumar 17mm f/4 and give it a go on the G1 today. I don't have a lot of time to do much shooting, but I'll give it a try at the cafe when I'm there for breakfast. Godfrey On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:23 AM, Rick Womer wrote: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
Rick, That is one amazing building and your pictures portray that very well. It seems to be a kind of glass house with stone walls. I like the rectilinear shots better as there is so much going on in the roof beams. The charm of the fisheye shots is how the lens compliments all the curvy stuff going on in the ceiling. Glad to see you are enjoying yourself over there. ;-) Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:30 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Now this is a turnabout: I'll take what seems to be a somewhat contrary view and say that I prefer the shot taken with the 16-45. I love the way you use your fisheye, but with these photos, the rectilinear shot works best to my eye. Looks like an amazing building, and you certainly captured it well. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd? There can never be too much cliché! So says the guy who invented Daytonesque as a pictorial genre. :-) William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
- Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: Film-days I certainly hear what you are saying. I am seeing it get even worse in the wedding industry concerning Post Process vs shooting. Not only do the shots need to be technically correct, but I am seeing an increasing trend in 'artistic enhancement' becoming the norm and expectation of the brides. This goes beyond the normal processing one would do. I would rather be out shooting the wedding than altering images to be more 'artsy'... We are routinely getting requests for those retarded BW shots with a splash of colour (do these people really think they are being original?) these days. It's not like it's hard to do, but it does take time, and customers seem to think they should have our post processing time given to them as a gift for their deigning to walk in our door. I can see a day when photographers everywhere rise up against these trite enhancements and say no more. I can see a day when photographers start to demand that their customers start to show a modicum of good taste and not ask us to do the doggie equivalent of having a treat balanced on our nose to see if we can toss and catch it. I can see that I am still happily in bed, and asleep. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Two Conversations
Serious subject..it appears. Gives it good strength. Very well done, Frank! Jack --- On Thu, 2/5/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Two Conversations To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 6:18 AM http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/coffee-in-market.html Comments always welcome. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Colour version. WAS Peso Barn from across the street
Dave, Those are all really nice, but I like the color best. The gray and white sweeps of snow on the barn roof stand in juxtaposition to the tan plants in the foreground. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:51 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Colour version http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8573441 Not from the same two photos, but basically the same angle with a tighter field crop. Dave On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:21 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Barn from across the street
Dave, Weather vane didn't make it...still the barn in color. Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:53 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: No red barn here, just an old weather one. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8573441 Dave On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:52 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:30 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Very nice. I'd like to see the color versions, too. The white snow, red barn, brown grasses seem appealing. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 2/4/09, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentaxlooks pretty good )
I'd bet on the guy with the hat... -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 9:42 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentaxlooks pretty good ) On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6207822_large.html Which one's Morris? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
Bill, Charge more for tricks. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:17 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: Film-days I certainly hear what you are saying. I am seeing it get even worse in the wedding industry concerning Post Process vs shooting. Not only do the shots need to be technically correct, but I am seeing an increasing trend in 'artistic enhancement' becoming the norm and expectation of the brides. This goes beyond the normal processing one would do. I would rather be out shooting the wedding than altering images to be more 'artsy'... We are routinely getting requests for those retarded BW shots with a splash of colour (do these people really think they are being original?) these days. It's not like it's hard to do, but it does take time, and customers seem to think they should have our post processing time given to them as a gift for their deigning to walk in our door. I can see a day when photographers everywhere rise up against these trite enhancements and say no more. I can see a day when photographers start to demand that their customers start to show a modicum of good taste and not ask us to do the doggie equivalent of having a treat balanced on our nose to see if we can toss and catch it. I can see that I am still happily in bed, and asleep. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:18 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton Subject: Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd? There can never be too much cliché! So says the guy who invented Daytonesque as a pictorial genre. :-) As I said earlier: If you don't like it, it's cliche. If you like it, it's genre. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux
I find it amusing that people who shoot Leicas and most likely have never been met anyone who lives in a trailer park, let alone live in one, would be those most offended... -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: Feb 5, 2009 7:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux Thanks Christine. I think I'll convert the newer ones as well. I first showed them all as color, but later decided I preferred them as BW. In rendering the new batch I wanted to get the color as close to correct as possible as a first step. When I first showed this set on the Leica forum more than five years ago, it was titled Trailer Park Trash, and it caused quite an uproar and a long debate. The photos are all staged of course, so I never felt that title was demeaning, but it apparently offended some. Paul On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: These are great, Paul, especially the bw, and most especially this one http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5670843 Love it! Thanks for posting. Really enjoyed this GESO. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: GESO: Trailer Park Princess Redux I was looking through some negatives yesterday and ran across the pics I shot at a trailer park in 2003. Those who've been around for awhile saw the ones I originally posted. Later I came back with some BW versions. Looking through the machine prints that were with the negs, I found some that I never printed that I now like. They're all 35mm (whereas most of the earlier ones were MF), and they were shot at dusk on Portra 400, so they're grainy. I scanned the negs on my Epson 3200 and had to sharpen quite a bit which made them even grainier, so they're far from perfect. But I like them. I'm probably going to scan some more shots when I have time. The color pics in this folder are the new scans, none of which have been shown before. The camera, by the way, was my LX. Not sure about the lens, but it was probably the SMC Pentax 50/1.4. I know I used some flash. I think it was the AF 400T firing into a reflector. The folder is here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=701586 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: I find it amusing that people who shoot Leicas and most likely have never been met anyone who lives in a trailer park, let alone live in one, would be those most offended... I have a Leica (which I haven't used since I went digital, but still...). Not only have I been to a trailer park, I have relatives who've lived in them. In Nova Scotia, no less, home of Trailer Park Boys. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux
Frank, you're the exception to most rules... -Original Message- From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 10:42 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: I find it amusing that people who shoot Leicas and most likely have never been met anyone who lives in a trailer park, let alone live in one, would be those most offended... I have a Leica (which I haven't used since I went digital, but still...). Not only have I been to a trailer park, I have relatives who've lived in them. In Nova Scotia, no less, home of Trailer Park Boys. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Two Conversations
I like it. A story within a story. Almost always an interesting perspective. Paul On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Serious subject..it appears. Gives it good strength. Very well done, Frank! Jack --- On Thu, 2/5/09, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Two Conversations To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 6:18 AM http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/coffee-in-market.html Comments always welcome. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Trailer Park Princess Redux
We actually enjoyed the beer. It was a very hot August day, and the Bud was extremely cold. I think we combined to finish about eight cans of the twelve pack. The empties on the ground are real:-). On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Rick Womer wrote: I remember the original posting; it's still nice. Pretty classy princess, too--she's drinking Bud instead of Busch or Bud Lite. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I was looking through some negatives yesterday and ran across the pics I shot at a trailer park in 2003. Those who've been around for awhile saw the ones I originally posted. Later I came back with some BW versions. Looking through the machine prints that were with the negs, I found some that I never printed that I now like. They're all 35mm (whereas most of the earlier ones were MF), and they were shot at dusk on Portra 400, so they're grainy. I scanned the negs on my Epson 3200 and had to sharpen quite a bit which made them even grainier, so they're far from perfect. But I like them. I'm probably going to scan some more shots when I have time. The color pics in this folder are the new scans, none of which have been shown before. The camera, by the way, was my LX. Not sure about the lens, but it was probably the SMC Pentax 50/1.4. I know I used some flash. I think it was the AF 400T firing into a reflector. The folder is here: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=701586 Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Film-days Bill, Charge more for tricks. That is the idea. Unfortunately, we are living in an era where everyone with a computer is a self styled Photoshop master. We've had people want a trick post process but not want to pay for it because they could do it themselves in just a few minutes at home. It's the old Uncle George has a good camera so why am I paying a professional so much syndrome. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd? If you don't like it, it's cliche. If you like it, it's genre. What if it's genreally cliched? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Trailer Park Princess Redux
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Peter Alling webste...@mindspring.com wrote: Frank, you're the exception to most rules... Rules? We don't need no stinking rules... cheers, frank ps: as an aside, this is a true story about the Trailer Park Boys (for those of you who've seen or heard of them). It's an extremely low budget show. They initially shot on location at the trailer park where one of them lived - of course without the consent or knowledge of the trailer park owners. Once the owners found out they were shooting on their property, they were evicted. This happened several times, until the show took off. Then, trailer park landlords were lining up, asking them to shoot in their parks... :-) -f -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
I have huge sensor dust problem, with my last years archives. Changing prime lenses causes dust to acumulate much faster. And i like to travel to some wild places. Solution came as enablement just 1 month ago - Pentax 16-45 :) Let's see... On medium format film, dust is relatively small issue. 2 minutes spotting, and file is ready for printing. Even A2 (60x40cm) print is good enough. Gasha Adam Maas wrote: Jens, I was referring to dust on film scans ;-) The bane of any film shooter. I've had little issue with sensor dust (if it exists, it's rarely more than 1-2 spots) and none since getting a camera with an ultrasonic dust-removal filter. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? It isn't for me but I just don't care for arranged images like this. ;} Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: PESO - Is this just too clichéd? G'day all A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like the light. I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, but, but. Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Two Conversations
Nice capture, but I think I'd crop out the guy in the URH corner. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Two Conversations http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/coffee-in-market.html Comments always welcome. thanks, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Colour version. WAS Peso Barn from across the street
I'd like it more with less foreground, perhaps crop out all just below the top of the fence. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Colour version. WAS Peso Barn from across the street Colour version http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8573441 Not from the same two photos, but basically the same angle with a tighter field crop. Dave On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:21 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of a not so in shape barn across the road from the last red barn shots. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571620 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571623 Converted to BW via LR using desaturation and luminious adjustments. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Sunrise 2/5/09
Today's sunrise... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8574635size=lg Caught this morning, but not in Chicago. :-) Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise 2/5/09
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Today's sunrise... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8574635size=lg Caught this morning, but not in Chicago. :-) Regards, Bob S. Okay, where are you? That does ~not~ look like Lake Michigan!! ;-) Beautiful shot, BTW. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
Bill, I hear you. A friend has the best deal. He shoots 'em. His wife edits and creates the albums. And she likes that part! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:49 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Film-days Bill, Charge more for tricks. That is the idea. Unfortunately, we are living in an era where everyone with a computer is a self styled Photoshop master. We've had people want a trick post process but not want to pay for it because they could do it themselves in just a few minutes at home. It's the old Uncle George has a good camera so why am I paying a professional so much syndrome. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise 2/5/09
Nice. South Carolina? Paul On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Today's sunrise... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8574635size=lg Caught this morning, but not in Chicago. :-) Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise 2/5/09
The title being Pacific beach @ Sunrise, and unless south Carolina has moved across country overnight, my guess is California. :-) Lovely shot, Bob. Wish I was there. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice. South Carolina? Paul On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Today's sunrise... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8574635size=lg Caught this morning, but not in Chicago. :-) Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
Tell them if it's so easy do it them selves and you'll print it for them. -Original Message- From: William Robb war...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 5, 2009 10:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Film-days - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Film-days Bill, Charge more for tricks. That is the idea. Unfortunately, we are living in an era where everyone with a computer is a self styled Photoshop master. We've had people want a trick post process but not want to pay for it because they could do it themselves in just a few minutes at home. It's the old Uncle George has a good camera so why am I paying a professional so much syndrome. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentaxlooks pretty good )
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:27:55AM -, Bob W wrote: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? I thought this list was supposed to be for endless kibitzing about equipment? sometimes people just need a break from the routine. Anyway, I think the normal internet protocol is to passionately pump the validity of such tests if they support the poster's opinion and to mercilessly criticize them as useless or worse if they don't. it's called 'confirmation bias'. Fortunately the people on this list seem less prone to it than others. Strangely enough, that's what people on other lists say about *their* lists ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why all this obsession with taking pictures? (was RE: Pentaxlooks pretty good )
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:34:06AM -, Bob W wrote: [...] By the way John, there were all sorts of critters (mostly birds, and at least one bunny) hanging out around the bridge when there weren't a lot of morris dancers jumping around. Those bastards again! They're always driving away wildlife. Time someone took responsibility for the planet's welfare and shot them all! I mean, look at this lot. No wildlife anywhere to be seen, all driven away, and look at the way they're using up so much of the world's ever-diminishing stock of kerchiefs and colourful rags. They're even playing accordions. Definitely not gentlemen. http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_6207822_large.html Nice. I've got one from a couple of years ago, showing them in their natural environment: http://www.jfwaf.com/PAW/PAW.php?name=PAW0728 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax looks pretty good
DxO and their tests... well... myself, I've tested many cameras last years. Including ALL Pentax DSLRs from *ist D to K2000D. Mostly head-to-head with each other and other brand cameras, so I have shot gigabytes of comparison pictures - different cameras, but the same scenes, framing, exposure, whatever. I have spent hundreds of hours on comparing those images and analyzing the results. And now, those guys from DxO are going to tell me (just for an example), that dynamic range of K10D (and even K200D) is higher than K20D??? And I have to consider their results reliable... NO WAY! BR, Margus Mark Erickson wrote: So the DxO Labs people are stirring up all kinds of trouble with their DxOMark camera sensor metrics. Here's an interesting chart that can be used to plot sensor quality vs price: http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/DxOMark-Sensor If you click on the ($) symbol on the far right of the page, then set the range to 1, you get an interesting scatter chart. The Pentax K10D, K20D, and K200D are all just where we'd like them to be--high and to the right (meaning best value). I like it --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Film-days
I've become pretty hard-nosed with my customers about payment for the work I do for them. I'll work with them to come up with something value-added that costs me little time or money but if they want a significant investment of either one for nothing they're out of luck. If they could have done it themselves, then they shouldn't have hired me to begin with. I figure if they hire me they either (a) can't do it themselves or (b) don't want to do it themselves, so the argument that I could have done that myself doesn't wash. My investment in equipment and years of experience are valuable to me and should be valuable to the customer as well. Over the years I've developed a few simple rules about payment for my services. Occasionally I get soft hearted and bend those rules - and almost invariably end up regretting it. -p William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Film-days Bill, Charge more for tricks. That is the idea. Unfortunately, we are living in an era where everyone with a computer is a self styled Photoshop master. We've had people want a trick post process but not want to pay for it because they could do it themselves in just a few minutes at home. It's the old Uncle George has a good camera so why am I paying a professional so much syndrome. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1936 - Release Date: 01/30/09 17:31:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise 2/5/09
I didn't notice the title, but the sun sets over Pacific beaches and rises over Atlantic beaches, thus my error. I guess the color is due to spillover from the cloud cover. But it's rare for a sunrise to color the entire sky. On Feb 5, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Christian wrote: The title being Pacific beach @ Sunrise, and unless south Carolina has moved across country overnight, my guess is California. :-) Lovely shot, Bob. Wish I was there. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ Paul Stenquist wrote: Nice. South Carolina? Paul On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Today's sunrise... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8574635size=lg Caught this morning, but not in Chicago. :-) Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Two Conversations
Well seen Frank. Dave On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/02/coffee-in-market.html Comments always welcome. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot - sad news
You have my thoughts, Luiz. My best wishes to you and your extended family in this sorrowful time. On Feb 4, 2009, at 16:01 , Luiz Felipe wrote: We remember. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If I could tell the story in words, I wouldn’t need to lug a camera.” –Lewis Hine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sunrise 2/5/09
Judging from the shadow, I'd say it was taken 2-4-09.:-) Very lovely Bob. Daytona.?? Dave On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Today's sunrise... http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8574635size=lg Caught this morning, but not in Chicago. :-) Regards, Bob S. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO--From the Museum Balcony
Both are very good Rick. I really like the first one, but the fish eye is good., Dave On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:23 AM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I might as well make the posting of these official... One taken with the DA 16-45: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571357size=lg And another taken with the DA 10-17 fisheye: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8571358size=lg The University Museum's main hall is an amazing confection of cast iron, glass, and stone, softened by the wooden tables and display cases. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Is this just too clichéd?
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:33 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: Me too. Me three.:-) Nice texture in the wood and the different coloured ropes are nice Dave DS 2009/2/5 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Works for me, Brian! Jostein 2009/2/5 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: G'day all A photo from a couple of years ago that I just re-discovered. I like the light. I like the texture in the old timber deck. I like the shadows. But, but, but. Is it just a bit too much of a cliché? (yes, I did arrange the ropes like that) http://www.blognow.com.au/PESO/122334/Frayed.html Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: ot - sad news
My sincere condolences to you and your family, Luiz. Godfrey On Feb 4, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Luiz Felipe wrote: This is really off topic, but the issue was already posted here to some point. I think a closure is needed. After a serious battle our niece passed away few hours ago. She and a friend were involved in a motorcycle accident, and despite our efforts and the extraordinary help received from friends, relatives, the medics and crew of Instituto dr. José Frota here in Fortaleza, volunteers and perfect strangers, didn´t survive the extensive trauma. Our thanks for those efforts, prayers, kind words and toughts. They made all the difference. Somehow we carry on. During these last few days I became unable to manage properly this mail account, and possibly some of you received returned mail due to exceeded capacity, for wich I apologize. Good walking leaves no tracks behind Good speech leaves no mark to be picked at We remember. Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://www.techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
