peso - twin peaks

2010-07-23 Thread Sasha Sobol
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4808390049/lightbox/

Comments and  critique welcome

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Re: peso - twin peaks

2010-07-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 23/07/2010, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4808390049/lightbox/

Hi Sasha,

I like this image, great detail and an interesting perspective but
again the colours and saturation disturb me. It reports as sRGB but
it's washed out and the sky seems purple, opening it as sRGB im PS
then assigning the ProPhoto CS seems to bring it to life, the colours
look as I would expect. Are you sure that this isn't an sRGB image?
See the straight ProPhotoRGB to sRGB CS assignment:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/4808390049_7778ab4b46_o-sRGB.jpg

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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-23 Thread Dario Bonazza

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


I guess we work rather differently. I almost never zoom a lens while I
look through the viewfinder ... I pick what focal length I want to use
and then pull the lens up to my eye.


Ok, so you use your zooms like a set of primes to choose from. In that case, 
I understand the zoom ring turning has no relevance.



That's funny ... I shot with Nikon gear for 30+ years.
Pentax/Canon/Olympus etc all felt backwards to me on the lens mount
until relatively recently. the location of the lens release button on
the Pentax was always an awkward thing for me, I'm used to it being on
the opposite side of the lens.

:-)

Of course, it mainly depends on what system you are accustomed to. This 
said, I believe the ideal lens release button must be comfortable to reach 
with the left hand, while keeping the lens with your right hand (for 
right-handed people). So the position of Pentax release button is better if 
you change the lens while looking at the front of your camera (turned toward 
you). That was the way I worked for years with cameras such as the MX and 
the ME Super. With cameras having a big grip like those in fashion today, I 
tend to change lenses from above, with the lens pointing forward and the 
camera back resting on my belly. In that case, a lens release button placed 
like Canon and Olympus is better. Wherever the lens release is, I find no 
big problem.


Dario 



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Re: Warm up for Malakoff Rockfestival

2010-07-23 Thread Derby Chang

Tim Øsleby wrote:

http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/ingrid-olava-at-gymen.html

I really had to push the camera hard this time.
Two shots at 3200. Lowest ISO was 2000. I've seen worse from a obsolete camera.
Ok there's a vertical stripe in some frames, but I can live with that.

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Trippy. I love how intimate the venue looks. Pretty good lighting even 
if you say you had to push it.


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Re: Warm up for Malakoff Rockfestival

2010-07-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
I like those pictures, each one and as a whole set. The different moments 
and the different points of view make all them well worth.

No big problems with ISO 3200. My favorites are 1088 and 1423.
Cheers,
Dario

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http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/ingrid-olava-at-gymen.html

I really had to push the camera hard this time.
Two shots at 3200. Lowest ISO was 2000. I've seen worse from a obsolete 
camera.

Ok there's a vertical stripe in some frames, but I can live with that.



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Re: Warm up for Malakoff Rockfestival

2010-07-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Tim,
That is a really nice set of performance photos.
It catches the atmosphere of the place.
The performers look in focus, and performing for the audience.
The first shot should be an album cover.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/ingrid-olava-at-gymen.html

 I really had to push the camera hard this time.
 Two shots at 3200. Lowest ISO was 2000. I've seen worse from a obsolete 
 camera.
 Ok there's a vertical stripe in some frames, but I can live with that.

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Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina

2010-07-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
Yes, but the other half of the sensor lies along the imaginary axis . . .


 We get full frame?  ;-)


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PESO: in the pub

2010-07-23 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
http://flic.kr/p/8m1brE

pentax k10d
fa 50 1.4

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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-23 Thread Steven Desjardins
I have an E-P1 but it's very similar.  Nicer body but no flash.I've
found it to be a surprisingly effective camera.  AF is slow on the
E-P1 but IQ is good.  I especially like the MF mode that goes to max
magnification automatically.  It makes MF far more useful than most
modern cameras.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:21 AM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 I'm trying to persuade my wife to move up to something better
 than her old Casio Exilim.  I'm tempted by the Micro 4/3 systems,
 and the Olympus E-PL1 seems to have the ease of use and simplicity
 that my wife is looking for (without being so large that she would
 refuse to carry it around) at a pretty decent price.  Even with an
 extra lens (the 40-150) it's still cheaper than the Panasonic, and
 has in-body image stabilisation.  The optional electronic view-
 finder might be interesting, too, although it's more likely to be
 something that I would use than something my wife would consider.


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Re: Enablement, Pentaxland vacation photos and other stuff

2010-07-23 Thread Fernando
Just some hours in Manila, connecting the international flight with
the domestic, the rest of the time in Boracay.

Are you close to Manila?

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey cool! You were here...

 Bong

 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,

 After a year of asking for tripod advice I finally pulled the trigger.
 I got somewhat newer versions of the legs and head: Manfrotto 055XPROB
 and a Manfrotto 496RC2 head, but boy, what an upgrade from my $20
 elcheapo tripod, just the experience of having a tripod of my height
 is exhilarating ;-)
 Expect my photos to be sharp for a difference now...

 I'm already salivating after carbon fiber legs, some better heads and
 a pano thingy, but this combo is a quantum leap -or feels like that
 for now.

 I also fought my procrastination and processed my vacation photos; I
 don't feel I had much luck this time -no 2011 Pdml-book photo yet- but
 some funny pictures. In Boracay the best snorkeling experience ever,
 some interesting thunderstorms and other stuff. In Tokyo not so much,
 but I can blame jet lag for that -only 4 jetlagged days there.

 I kept it short -19 photos each album

 Boracay:
 slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624548005050/show/
 or all of them together
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624548005050/

 Tokyo
 slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624423201883/show/
 or all of them together
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624423201883/

 Changes in my work are keeping away from the list, but I check it now
 and them, hope everyone is fine.


 Later


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Re: Enablement, Pentaxland vacation photos and other stuff

2010-07-23 Thread Bong Manayon
Yup.  Quezon City, just north of the City of Manila.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just some hours in Manila, connecting the international flight with
 the domestic, the rest of the time in Boracay.

 Are you close to Manila?

 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey cool! You were here...

 Bong

 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,

 After a year of asking for tripod advice I finally pulled the trigger.
 I got somewhat newer versions of the legs and head: Manfrotto 055XPROB
 and a Manfrotto 496RC2 head, but boy, what an upgrade from my $20
 elcheapo tripod, just the experience of having a tripod of my height
 is exhilarating ;-)
 Expect my photos to be sharp for a difference now...

 I'm already salivating after carbon fiber legs, some better heads and
 a pano thingy, but this combo is a quantum leap -or feels like that
 for now.

 I also fought my procrastination and processed my vacation photos; I
 don't feel I had much luck this time -no 2011 Pdml-book photo yet- but
 some funny pictures. In Boracay the best snorkeling experience ever,
 some interesting thunderstorms and other stuff. In Tokyo not so much,
 but I can blame jet lag for that -only 4 jetlagged days there.

 I kept it short -19 photos each album

 Boracay:
 slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624548005050/show/
 or all of them together
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624548005050/

 Tokyo
 slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624423201883/show/
 or all of them together
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624423201883/

 Changes in my work are keeping away from the list, but I check it now
 and them, hope everyone is fine.


 Later


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Re: OT Main stream radio

2010-07-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:01 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:


 i happened read a different view of Sirius this morning at

 http://reciprocity-failure.blogspot.com/2010/07/666.html

 an all 60's music station which seemed like a little piece of heaven (until
 you realize it has a play list of 25 songs)

Been listening to 60's on 6 for a number of hours now. At 3 minutes a
song this alleged play list should have looped in about an hour and 15
minutes ot and hour and a half.

Nope.

Sounds like another bitter internet user.

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Re: PESO - To stoler. Nede på brygga.

2010-07-23 Thread David J Brooks
I like it, but agree with Rick on maybe a small sky crop, as opposed
to a small sky cap.

Dave

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 Another one I'm not entirely sure about, but I'll show it to you anyway:

 http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga9

 More of that ol'film...

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Re: PESO - Hardware Store

2010-07-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Another from Main St., Great Barrington, MA:

 Canopy (here goes my repeating patterns thing again):

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11294972

I like the pattern here and the bit of metal crossing the pattern.

 Primary colors (not repeating patterns!):

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11305824size=lg

Humm, interesting, not sure though

Dave

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Re: Lenses again, again

2010-07-23 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

 On Jul 22, 2010, at 16:50, Eric Weir wrote:
 
 I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a 
 little to a lot more. 
 
 Sweet!  That's about what I paid for mine a few years ago.

And it's less than half what some sellers who had only buy it now prices, 
i.e., who were not accepting bids, were asking.

I'm finding a wide range of prices for the smc a 70-210mm macro lens as well, 
including among those who have only buy it now prices.

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Re: peso - twin peaks

2010-07-23 Thread Sasha Sobol
Rob, you are absolutely right.
Does anyone know how to change (or embed a missing) color profile without PS?

Thanks,
--Sasha

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 23/07/2010, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4808390049/lightbox/

 Hi Sasha,

 I like this image, great detail and an interesting perspective but
 again the colours and saturation disturb me. It reports as sRGB but
 it's washed out and the sky seems purple, opening it as sRGB im PS
 then assigning the ProPhoto CS seems to bring it to life, the colours
 look as I would expect. Are you sure that this isn't an sRGB image?
 See the straight ProPhotoRGB to sRGB CS assignment:

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/4808390049_7778ab4b46_o-sRGB.jpg

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A lesson

2010-07-23 Thread Eric Weir

Last night I took my camera, a *ist DS, to one of the sites of a recreation 
program we run, an outdoor basketball court, in a community that's about 80 
percent low-income, half African American and half refugees literally from all 
over the world. I plunked myself down on a bench on the shaded end of the 
court, under one of the baskets. The other end was still in direct sunlight. 

I had my 50mm M on the camera, set for continuous shooting. It was my first 
attempt at real action photography. Trying to keep focus while the kids moved 
from one end of the court to the other, to maintain proper exposure as they 
moved in and out of shadow, and to do it all manually was a real challenge. I 
kept forgetting punch the exposure lock button to reset the shutter speed as 
kids moved around. My feeble attempts at framing shots were largely ineffective.

I've only skimmed the images in the camera. There are a handful the kids would 
find interesting, but nothing that would impress anyone here. I'm not 
disappointed. It was experience. I can get pointers here and from books, etc., 
but it is experience that will teach me, that will make other sources of 
information meaningful.

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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 ..  the location of the lens release button on
 the Pentax was always an awkward thing for me, I'm used to it being on
 the opposite side of the lens.

 Of course, it mainly depends on what system you are accustomed to. This
 said, I believe the ideal lens release button must be comfortable to reach
 with the left hand, while keeping the lens with your right hand (for
 right-handed people). So the position of Pentax release button is better if
 you change the lens while looking at the front of your camera (turned toward
 you). That was the way I worked for years with cameras such as the MX and
 the ME Super. With cameras having a big grip like those in fashion today, I
 tend to change lenses from above, with the lens pointing forward and the
 camera back resting on my belly. In that case, a lens release button placed
 like Canon and Olympus is better. Wherever the lens release is, I find no
 big problem.

When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and
depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right
hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right
hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn
to click.

The position of the Pentax lens release made it hard to figure out
which hand to use to press the release ... drove me a little crazy for
a long time. It's amusing to think of it this way, but it's one of the
reasons I moved to FourThirds bodies ... the lens release button was
much more comfortable to me. LOL!
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Re: peso - twin peaks

2010-07-23 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well not at all what I was expecting.  I've been up there many times and this 
is not the typical scene.  Thanks for surprising me.  A nice shot and kudos for 
coming up with something out of the ordinary.
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Re: A lesson

2010-07-23 Thread P N Stenquist


On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Eric Weir wrote:



Last night I took my camera, a *ist DS, to one of the sites of a  
recreation program we run, an outdoor basketball court, in a  
community that's about 80 percent low-income, half African American  
and half refugees literally from all over the world. I plunked  
myself down on a bench on the shaded end of the court, under one of  
the baskets. The other end was still in direct sunlight.


I had my 50mm M on the camera, set for continuous shooting. It was  
my first attempt at real action photography. Trying to keep focus  
while the kids moved from one end of the court to the other, to  
maintain proper exposure as they moved in and out of shadow, and to  
do it all manually was a real challenge. I kept forgetting punch the  
exposure lock button to reset the shutter speed as kids moved  
around. My feeble attempts at framing shots were largely ineffective.


I've only skimmed the images in the camera. There are a handful the  
kids would find interesting, but nothing that would impress anyone  
here. I'm not disappointed. It was experience. I can get pointers  
here and from books, etc., but it is experience that will teach me,  
that will make other sources of information meaningful.




Good experience to be sure. Shooting basket ball with manual focus is  
difficult. One way is to pick a spot on the court, prefocus, and  
follow the action until it comes to that spot. If you focus on the  
rim, you can get some good rebounding and layup shots. If you want to  
focus moving action, follow one player and focus continuously as he  
moves, then trip the shutter when you think you have your shot.


This last technique mimics what happens when using continuous  
autofocus with a good autofocus system. I don't think the *istDS can  
accomplish that, so your probably better off focusing manually in any  
case. The K7 can do it, but not with 100% accuracy.


Of course, the most important step in learning to focus action is  
practice, practice and more practice.


Paul

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 In Windows, click on Windows Explorer, and there is your computer.
 You can even customize it's start location (or could in everything up to XP,
 I haven't bothered to try with Win7 yet).
 If it isn't that easy ion a Mac, they have some work to do.

It's easier.

In Mac OS X, you don't have to click on Finder or anything to find
your computer. The Finder is started up by the operating system as
soon as you login, it is always available. It presents the Desktop
folder in whatever account you're logged in on as the backdrop screen.
You can configure whatever file system location you want it to present
as default, in whichever of its display modes is most useful to you,
whenever you open a new Finder window to navigate the file system. It
stays running while you have other applications running so that you
have immediate and easy access to the file system at all times.

 But this isn't a useful discussion for a Pentax camera equipment
 discussion forum.

 Of course it isn't, but most of what is discussed here isn't, so why play
 traffic cop?

Jeez, you're such a goddam pill. Having another stupid pissing match
over Windows vs Mac OS X must be a special pleasure to you.

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Re: peso - twin peaks

2010-07-23 Thread P N Stenquist

Excellent composition. It's a shot that holds my interest. Well done.
Paul


On Jul 23, 2010, at 2:18 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4808390049/lightbox/

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Re: A lesson

2010-07-23 Thread David J Brooks
When i started to shoot horse, in 1997, i used a K1000 and the A35-70
or A80-200 manual lenses.
Like Paul's suggestion, i found the best thing to do is find a good
fence, pre focus and shoot when i had what i wanted.

I pretty much still do that today, even with AF lenses.

Practice practice

Dave

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Last night I took my camera, a *ist DS, to one of the sites of a recreation 
 program we run, an outdoor basketball court, in a community that's about 80 
 percent low-income, half African American and half refugees literally from 
 all over the world. I plunked myself down on a bench on the shaded end of the 
 court, under one of the baskets. The other end was still in direct sunlight.

 I had my 50mm M on the camera, set for continuous shooting. It was my first 
 attempt at real action photography. Trying to keep focus while the kids moved 
 from one end of the court to the other, to maintain proper exposure as they 
 moved in and out of shadow, and to do it all manually was a real challenge. I 
 kept forgetting punch the exposure lock button to reset the shutter speed as 
 kids moved around. My feeble attempts at framing shots were largely 
 ineffective.

 I've only skimmed the images in the camera. There are a handful the kids 
 would find interesting, but nothing that would impress anyone here. I'm not 
 disappointed. It was experience. I can get pointers here and from books, 
 etc., but it is experience that will teach me, that will make other sources 
 of information meaningful.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread William Robb


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Jeez, you're such a goddam pill. Having another stupid pissing match
over Windows vs Mac OS X must be a special pleasure to you.



And you're a fucking asshole as soon as someone has the temerity to disagree 
with you.

Where, Mr. Shithead, do you figure you get off at being the list police.
Maybe when you buy the thing, you'll have some say, but until then your just 
another little prigfucker.
I've already killfiled your boring ass picture posts, I suppose it's time to 
send you to jco/marnie/matyolaville.


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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The original Pentax design with the indexing bump on the lens made a lot 
more sense.  Holding the camera with the right hand, cradle the lens 
with the left with your pointing finger over the bump, lens mount to the 
front.  Touch the lens release with your pointing finger.  The lens is 
properly oriented to mount on the camera.  With a little practice you 
can do this without looking.  To remove the lens holding the camera with 
the right hand, grab the lens with the left hand and press the lens 
release with the middle or third finger on the right.  However the 
indexing bump is history as of the FA lenses, (except on some of the 
limited lenses), and the release button has been repositioned so it no 
longer lines up properly from the *ist cameras forward.  I guess no one 
complained.


On 7/23/2010 11:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it  wrote:
   

..  the location of the lens release button on
the Pentax was always an awkward thing for me, I'm used to it being on
the opposite side of the lens.
   

Of course, it mainly depends on what system you are accustomed to. This
said, I believe the ideal lens release button must be comfortable to reach
with the left hand, while keeping the lens with your right hand (for
right-handed people). So the position of Pentax release button is better if
you change the lens while looking at the front of your camera (turned toward
you). That was the way I worked for years with cameras such as the MX and
the ME Super. With cameras having a big grip like those in fashion today, I
tend to change lenses from above, with the lens pointing forward and the
camera back resting on my belly. In that case, a lens release button placed
like Canon and Olympus is better. Wherever the lens release is, I find no
big problem.
 

When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and
depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right
hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right
hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn
to click.

The position of the Pentax lens release made it hard to figure out
which hand to use to press the release ... drove me a little crazy for
a long time. It's amusing to think of it this way, but it's one of the
reasons I moved to FourThirds bodies ... the lens release button was
much more comfortable to me. LOL!
   



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Re: A lesson

2010-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling

On 7/23/2010 11:19 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:


On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Eric Weir wrote:



Last night I took my camera, a *ist DS, to one of the sites of a 
recreation program we run, an outdoor basketball court, in a 
community that's about 80 percent low-income, half African American 
and half refugees literally from all over the world. I plunked myself 
down on a bench on the shaded end of the court, under one of the 
baskets. The other end was still in direct sunlight.


I had my 50mm M on the camera, set for continuous shooting. It was my 
first attempt at real action photography. Trying to keep focus while 
the kids moved from one end of the court to the other, to maintain 
proper exposure as they moved in and out of shadow, and to do it all 
manually was a real challenge. I kept forgetting punch the exposure 
lock button to reset the shutter speed as kids moved around. My 
feeble attempts at framing shots were largely ineffective.


I've only skimmed the images in the camera. There are a handful the 
kids would find interesting, but nothing that would impress anyone 
here. I'm not disappointed. It was experience. I can get pointers 
here and from books, etc., but it is experience that will teach me, 
that will make other sources of information meaningful.




Good experience to be sure. Shooting basket ball with manual focus is 
difficult. One way is to pick a spot on the court, prefocus, and 
follow the action until it comes to that spot. If you focus on the 
rim, you can get some good rebounding and layup shots. If you want to 
focus moving action, follow one player and focus continuously as he 
moves, then trip the shutter when you think you have your shot.


This last technique mimics what happens when using continuous 
autofocus with a good autofocus system. I don't think the *istDS can 
accomplish that, so your probably better off focusing manually in any 
case. The K7 can do it, but not with 100% accuracy.


The Ds has continuous Auto Focus as a menu item, but it still can't 
usefully accomplish it.




Of course, the most important step in learning to focus action is 
practice, practice and more practice.


Paul
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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 In Windows, click on Windows Explorer, and there is your computer.
 You can even customize it's start location (or could in everything up to XP,
 I haven't bothered to try with Win7 yet).
 If it isn't that easy ion a Mac, they have some work to do.

 It's easier.

 In Mac OS X, you don't have to click on Finder or anything to find
 your computer. The Finder is started up by the operating system as
 soon as you login, it is always available. It presents the Desktop
 folder in whatever account you're logged in on as the backdrop screen.
 You can configure whatever file system location you want it to present
 as default, in whichever of its display modes is most useful to you,
 whenever you open a new Finder window to navigate the file system. It
 stays running while you have other applications running so that you
 have immediate and easy access to the file system at all times.


That is in fact exactly how it works in Windows, KDE and Gnome as
well. In all cases the file browser is always running, but you need to
open a window for it if it's not already open. On the Mac you have a
window open by default on startup unless you tell it not too, Windows
doesn't open a window unless you tell it to (but you can tell it to
open one simply by dragging that folder to the startup folder in the
start menu).

Apple has improved the Finder significantly with Leopard, it's not the
absolutely atrocious app that it was up through 10.4, but it's still
not up to the capabilities of the current Windows Explorer for
navigation (or Nautilus and Konqueror, which MS copied heavily in the
updates to Explorer introduced in Vista).

The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is
adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if
it's clickable like it is on Vista and later (Or Nautilus and
Konqueror, Konqueror introduced this idea) which massively speeds up
jumping around the filesystem. Having full directory trees in the
sidebar is also a major advantage, the multi-pane view that Apple uses
instead only provides limited equivalence as you can see multiple
filesystem trees from one window with Explorer from all locations.

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Re: PESO: in the pub

2010-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:


http://flic.kr/p/8m1brE

pentax k10d
fa 50 1.4

 


love it

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2010-07-22 16:26 , Eric Weir wrote:


On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Ah, you've got the Finder view of the Applications window set to sort
by Kind. If you set it to sort by Name the 'Adobe Lightroom 3'
application will sort with the rest of the Adobe products in their
folders. ;-)


Actually, I don't use the Finder. I use Path Finder.


consider turning off Path Finder's Smart Sorting (in the View menu) -- 
i gave up on it long ago, for perhaps the same reason that had you 
missing something that was in plain sight


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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2010-07-22 20:11 , Adam Maas wrote:

While I can
understand Godfrey's choice not to use a replacement as he needs to be
familiar offhand with the basic Finder UI for professional reasons, I
thoroughly understand why any user who doesn't need to walk others
through basic file mangement steps would quickly move up to a Finder
replacement.


one can be familiar with Finder (to help others) _and_ use other tools


Unfortunately OS X seems to be stuck in the paradigm that pervasive
search is an adequate replacement for a decent file manager.


i don't see any sense of replacement, just two complementary paradigms, 
and i don't feel Finder is indecent -- QuickLook, for one, is a 
fantastic feature; i disliked Spotlight for a long time, but being able 
to quickly find one email out of hundreds of thousands won me over; i 
still haven't mastered Spotlight's query language, but given how much i 
use Google it's only natural to expect the same kind of ability from an OS



Coincidentally it's also the only major OS which has a steady market
for replacements file management apps.


first of all, the market for Mac OS X file manager replacements seems 
rather weak to me; Path Finder (which i have used for years) is really 
the only major contender, but is a niche player; there are many tools to 
enhance _navigation_ on Mac OS X, but not so many to enhance _management_


secondly, your statement seems contradicted by the proliferation of GUI 
file managers on Linux and the fact that there are numerous Windows file 
manager replacements (though i don't know the market well)


and in a followup message:

The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is
adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if
it's clickable


look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has 
had it for much longer


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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-23 Thread William Robb


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The original Pentax design with the indexing bump on the lens made a lot 
more sense.  Holding the camera with the right hand, cradle the lens 
with the left with your pointing finger over the bump, lens mount to the 
front.  Touch the lens release with your pointing finger.  The lens is 
properly oriented to mount on the camera.  With a little practice you 
can do this without looking.  To remove the lens holding the camera with 
the right hand, grab the lens with the left hand and press the lens 
release with the middle or third finger on the right.  However the 
indexing bump is history as of the FA lenses, (except on some of the 
limited lenses), and the release button has been repositioned so it no 
longer lines up properly from the *ist cameras forward.  I guess no one 
complained.


I did, but no one at Pentax seemed to care.
It was nice being able to change lenses without looking at the camera.

William Robb 


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Re: PESO - To stoler. Nede på brygga.

2010-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund

David J Brooks wrote:

I like it, but agree with Rick on maybe a small sky crop, as opposed
to a small sky cap.
  

Well as long as it's my crop...

Actually, a cropped version will be coming soon to a screen near you.

Thanks,

- Toralf


Dave

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote:
  

Another one I'm not entirely sure about, but I'll show it to you anyway:

http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga9

More of that ol'film...

- Toralf


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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 On 2010-07-22 20:11 , Adam Maas wrote:

 While I can
 understand Godfrey's choice not to use a replacement as he needs to be
 familiar offhand with the basic Finder UI for professional reasons, I
 thoroughly understand why any user who doesn't need to walk others
 through basic file mangement steps would quickly move up to a Finder
 replacement.

 one can be familiar with Finder (to help others) _and_ use other tools

Indeed you can, but it's a lot easier to do it with the UI you use natively.


 Unfortunately OS X seems to be stuck in the paradigm that pervasive
 search is an adequate replacement for a decent file manager.

 i don't see any sense of replacement, just two complementary paradigms, and
 i don't feel Finder is indecent -- QuickLook, for one, is a fantastic
 feature; i disliked Spotlight for a long time, but being able to quickly
 find one email out of hundreds of thousands won me over; i still haven't
 mastered Spotlight's query language, but given how much i use Google it's
 only natural to expect the same kind of ability from an OS

Oh, I can see the value of pervasive search, I simply dislike it as a
replacement for file management, which is the way Apple was going for
a while.

Note that since I don't store things like email on my drive, it's much
less useful for me (Search facilities in email are a must, no matter
how good your file organization, due to volume. It's less useful when
you're dealing with smaller filesets). Note Windows has the same
functionality as of Vista, although unlike on the Mac you can turn it
off and just use traditional search tools (slower, but they don't eat
CPU cycles in the background either. of course Windows Indexing is a
much bigger resource pig than Spotlight).


 Coincidentally it's also the only major OS which has a steady market
 for replacements file management apps.

 first of all, the market for Mac OS X file manager replacements seems rather
 weak to me; Path Finder (which i have used for years) is really the only
 major contender, but is a niche player; there are many tools to enhance
 _navigation_ on Mac OS X, but not so many to enhance _management_

 secondly, your statement seems contradicted by the proliferation of GUI file
 managers on Linux and the fact that there are numerous Windows file manager
 replacements (though i don't know the market well)

Linux is a strange beast, if one guy with some programming skill wants
a different file manager, you get one. Even then, there are only two
File Managers in common use anymore, Nautilus for GNOME and Konqueror
for KDE.

As to Windows, there isn't a single Explorer replacement with anything
approaching the uptake or press of Path Finder. Most of the oens I've
run across are used only in the custom UI scene, where they need thm
since they're replacing the Windows UI entirely anyways.


 and in a followup message:

 The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is
 adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if
 it's clickable

 look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has had it
 for much longer


It's not in any screenshot of the Leopard or Snow Leopard finder I can find.

-Adam

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PESO - To stoler. Nede på brygga. Now c ropped a bit

2010-07-23 Thread Toralf Lund
Here is a slightly cropped version of the one posted yesterday, as 
suggested by Rick and David:


http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga9b


- Toralf


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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Bruce Walker

Adam Maas wrote:



The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is
adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if
it's clickable

look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has had it
for much longer



It's not in any screenshot of the Leopard or Snow Leopard finder I can find.

-Adam


It's off by default ...

  View - Show Path Bar


-bmw

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:

 The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is
 adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if
 it's clickable

 look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has had
 it
 for much longer


 It's not in any screenshot of the Leopard or Snow Leopard finder I can
 find.

 -Adam

 It's off by default ...

  View - Show Path Bar


 -bmw

Ah, useful to note. Thanks for the info. That would go a long way to
making Finder nicer to work with.


-Adam

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peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's

2010-07-23 Thread Larry Colen
A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and asked 
me to come out and photograph it.
This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/

exif data at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/meta/in/set-72157624563427022

This was shot from the back of the room with the A* 200/2.8 on a monopod using 
the K-x, ISO 1600 f/4.5 1/40. I brought the color in about as close as I could, 
but the red lights were very heavy.

The guy there with the Canon 5D ended up shooting with flash towards the end of 
the evening rather than shooting at 1600. I haven't seen his photos yet, but 
it'll be interesting to see how the K-x compares.  If you look at the set, the 
*LRC* shots were K20, the *IMGP* shots were K-x.

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Re: PESO: Street Pizza

2010-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bruce.

Dan

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:
 Wow punchy colors!  The scene really jumps out at you.
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 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070239

Comments. criticisms, suggestions and abuse all are welcome.

Dan

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Re: PESO: Street Pizza

2010-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
No, I learned my lesson when I posted an image of turkey vultures
dining on a deer carcass and ruined a few lunches.

Dan

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:23 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 For some reason I feared seeing a flattened squirrel...

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Last Roll of Kodachrome Processed

2010-07-23 Thread Ed Keeney
An article in the Wichita Times about the last roll of Kodachrome
manufactured...

http://www.kansas.com/2010/07/14/1403115/last-kodachrome-roll-processed.html

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Re: PESO: Toes

2010-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Excellent image.  I love the composition and the dof.

Dan

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:47 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 ... [lots more typical William Robb horse manure snipped ...] I've already 
 killfiled your boring ass picture posts, I suppose it's time to
 send you to jco/marnie/matyolaville.

I think it would be best to just nail your testicles to a board and
hit yourself over the head with them for all the anguish being
killfiled by you causes me.

Go expire stupidly and enjoy knowing that I appreciate you more in death.

You've been killfiled, woo hoo. What a wuss.
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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Adam Maas wrote:

 The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is
 adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if
 it's clickable

 look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has had
 it
 for much longer


 It's not in any screenshot of the Leopard or Snow Leopard finder I can
 find.

 -Adam

 It's off by default ...

  View - Show Path Bar


 -bmw

 Ah, useful to note. Thanks for the info. That would go a long way to
 making Finder nicer to work with.

It's been there since 10.3.

Another thing you're likely unaware of is that Command-clicking on any
Finder window's title will reveal a drop-down menu with the entire
folder path from that window to the volume root. You can open a window
to any folder on that path by picking it from the menu. This has been
there since 1991 on all versions of Mac OS. (It also works with most
application document windows too, a service provided by the Finder.)

I don't use Finder file navigator alternatives because in the 26
years I've been using Apple Mac OS systems I have yet to find one that
was as intuitive and sensible to use as the Finder. Most of them are
heavily laden with yakity-yak nonsense that the Finder does with far
more subtlety. These products have a ridiculously small market
penetration, considering the size of the Mac OS installed base. And in
doing consulting the past six years as an independent, I've discovered
that the vast majority of problems on most people's systems are solved
by removing all these poorly designed and implemented add-on things,
and teaching them how to do what they want with the Finder.

Most people never read the extensive Mac OS X help that is included
right in the standard system installation and never understand more
than a quarter of the features included with the Finder. Sometimes it
seems that I spend my consulting life reading people the Mac OS X help
file that is on the system in front of their noses. ;-)
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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 23, 2010, at 10:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and
 depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right
 hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right
 hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn
 to click.
 

I hold the camera in my RIGHT hand, with the lens facing away.  Pretty much the 
same grip I use to shoot with.  Camera is still facing whatever the subject is 
(which, in my high-school days, was usually a stage with rock musicians on it).

Ring finger of the right hand reaches in to press the release button.

Left hand twists the lens out of the mount.  Left hand drops the lens into 
whatever bag or pocket I have handy...

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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I remember when Pentax switched to the K-mount came out in '71 or so
(I was selling cameras then...) and thought the design was sensible,
but my left hand is clumsy for manipulating lenses in and out of my
bag. I always hold the camera in my left hand and handle the lens in
my right. So the whole thing was backwards from the get go for me.
Holding the lens with the right hand and using the thumb to align the
bits worked but wasn't as comfortable as what I was used to on the
Nikons. Of course, one plus was that you didn't have to do the Nikon
aperture ring jiggle to index the lens maximum aperture like I did
with the Photomic FTn finder or Nikkormat FTns, but they solved that
with the AI aperture coupling a few years later.

Nuthin's perfect.

Frankly, I always had the same difficulty with the Leica M lens mount
release, tucked tightly against the lens mount in the middle of the
body, but  with Leica Ms I tended to change lenses much less
frequently than with SLR cameras.

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 The original Pentax design with the indexing bump on the lens made a lot
 more sense.  Holding the camera with the right hand, cradle the lens with
 the left with your pointing finger over the bump, lens mount to the front.
  Touch the lens release with your pointing finger.  The lens is properly
 oriented to mount on the camera.  With a little practice you can do this
 without looking.  To remove the lens holding the camera with the right hand,
 grab the lens with the left hand and press the lens release with the middle
 or third finger on the right.  However the indexing bump is history as of
 the FA lenses, (except on some of the limited lenses), and the release
 button has been repositioned so it no longer lines up properly from the *ist
 cameras forward.  I guess no one complained.

 On 7/23/2010 11:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Dario Bonazza
 dario.bona...@virgilio.it  wrote:


 ..  the location of the lens release button on
 the Pentax was always an awkward thing for me, I'm used to it being on
 the opposite side of the lens.


 Of course, it mainly depends on what system you are accustomed to. This
 said, I believe the ideal lens release button must be comfortable to
 reach
 with the left hand, while keeping the lens with your right hand (for
 right-handed people). So the position of Pentax release button is better
 if
 you change the lens while looking at the front of your camera (turned
 toward
 you). That was the way I worked for years with cameras such as the MX and
 the ME Super. With cameras having a big grip like those in fashion today,
 I
 tend to change lenses from above, with the lens pointing forward and the
 camera back resting on my belly. In that case, a lens release button
 placed
 like Canon and Olympus is better. Wherever the lens release is, I find no
 big problem.


 When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and
 depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right
 hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right
 hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn
 to click.

 The position of the Pentax lens release made it hard to figure out
 which hand to use to press the release ... drove me a little crazy for
 a long time. It's amusing to think of it this way, but it's one of the
 reasons I moved to FourThirds bodies ... the lens release button was
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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 23, 2010, at 13:41, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 Most people never read the extensive Mac OS X help that is included
 right in the standard system installation and never understand more
 than a quarter of the features included with the Finder. Sometimes it
 seems that I spend my consulting life reading people the Mac OS X help
 file that is on the system in front of their noses. ;-)

Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a 
search results window open?

I would love to be able to use it to find overly-large ISO or ZIP files from my 
downloads and various other sources... but I can't see the file sizes until I 
open a NEW finder window in whatever folder contains the file.

(I figure since you seem to know quite well how it all works...)

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PESO: List Plow Blade

2010-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070246

Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are Welcome.

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Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's

2010-07-23 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and asked 
 me to come out and photograph it.
 This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/

Thats a great shot.

Dave

 exif data at:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/meta/in/set-72157624563427022

 This was shot from the back of the room with the A* 200/2.8 on a monopod 
 using the K-x, ISO 1600 f/4.5 1/40. I brought the color in about as close as 
 I could, but the red lights were very heavy.

 The guy there with the Canon 5D ended up shooting with flash towards the end 
 of the evening rather than shooting at 1600. I haven't seen his photos yet, 
 but it'll be interesting to see how the K-x compares.  If you look at the 
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Re: PESO: List Plow Blade

2010-07-23 Thread Larry Colen
There are a couple of things I like in it, such as the colors.

I don't quite see what the intent of the photo is though.  Is it just a street 
scene? Is it supposed to be a juxtaposition of the sign with taxis?

On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070246
 
 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are Welcome.
 
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Re: PESO: in the pub

2010-07-23 Thread David J Brooks
Excellent lighting and clarity

Dave

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Re: PESO: List Plow Blade

2010-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Good question.  For me it was the reference to snow plowing on a
beautiful summer's day.  Also, I was trying to get a different shot of
the multicolored hotel in the background, putting it in context of the
city around it.

I apologize for my odd spelling mistake in the title of the post.  G

Dan

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 There are a couple of things I like in it, such as the colors.

 I don't quite see what the intent of the photo is though.  Is it just a 
 street scene? Is it supposed to be a juxtaposition of the sign with taxis?

 On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070246

 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are Welcome.

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Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's

2010-07-23 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:35 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and 
 asked me to come out and photograph it.
 This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/
 
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Re: PESO: List Plow Blade

2010-07-23 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Good question.  For me it was the reference to snow plowing on a
 beautiful summer's day.  Also, I was trying to get a different shot of
 the multicolored hotel in the background, putting it in context of the
 city around it.

That was another shot I saw hiding in there. Those were many of the colors I 
liked.

Maybe trying a crop of basically the left half of the frame, so it's of the 
hotel, rather than the shiny building on the right side of the frame would help 
bring more attention to the pretty hotel.


 
 I apologize for my odd spelling mistake in the title of the post.  G

In a  lot of 18 century documents, it's often hard to tell the effs from the 
esses.


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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

 Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a 
 search results window open?

 I would love to be able to use it to find overly-large ISO or ZIP files from 
 my downloads and various other sources... but I can't see the file sizes 
 until I open a NEW finder window in whatever folder contains the file.

There are two ways to obtain additional information about files
included in a Finder search window:

- If you want to find and compare a few files at a time, select those
files and use the File-Get Info.. command (command-i). This will
open a static information window for each file selected which allows
you to compare them easily.

- If you want to look at size information one at a time, select one
file, hold the Option key down, and use the File-Show Inspector
command. The inspector window which opens is dynamic ... as you click
through the files in the search window it will change to show the Get
Info detail on each file. If you Shift- or Command-Select a group of
files, it will  display the number of files and the aggregate of their
sizes.

Of course, you can do a Finder search including a Size parameter (eg:
find all .ZIP files + Size  NN Megabytes) to find overly-large .ZIP
files in the file system too. The search results will then be just
those that you might consider purging.

If your interest is overall volume space management ... that is, you
want to find out what's taking up space in your system in relation to
everything else and where it is, trim out the things that don't need
to be there, etc, there is a very well designed third party utility
application to do that. It's named Daisy Disk and is available from

http://www.daisydiskapp.com/

This is an excellent, specialist tool with a very useful way of
displaying how files are laid out in the file system, with resolution
right down to the individual file. You can do this type of thing with
the Finder too, but it's not specifically tuned to this kind of
large-scale volume space analysis/management task efficiently.
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Re: PESO: List Plow Blade

2010-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Larry.  This is the shot I took of the building itself:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070243

In my original post, I was trying to show the building in its context,
how the splashes of color jump out of the busy scene of the street
below, but I agree that it did not really center strongly enough on
the building itself.

Dan

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 Good question.  For me it was the reference to snow plowing on a
 beautiful summer's day.  Also, I was trying to get a different shot of
 the multicolored hotel in the background, putting it in context of the
 city around it.

 That was another shot I saw hiding in there. Those were many of the colors I 
 liked.

 Maybe trying a crop of basically the left half of the frame, so it's of the 
 hotel, rather than the shiny building on the right side of the frame would 
 help bring more attention to the pretty hotel.



 I apologize for my odd spelling mistake in the title of the post.  G

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Re: Last Roll of Kodachrome Processed

2010-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Nice article, I've been missing Kodachrome for quite some time now, not 
enough to actually go out and shoot some mind you.


Hell, I have a bunch of BW film I haven't bothered to shoot, the only 
film I've shot in the last few years has been the really inconvenient 
stuff, 120 that has to be re-rolled onto 620 spools...


I guess there are a lot of a**h***s in the world based on the comments 
though, children shouting look at me, ain't I clever.  Too bad we can't 
shoot them, (and I don't mean with film).


On 7/23/2010 2:10 PM, Ed Keeney wrote:

An article in the Wichita Times about the last roll of Kodachrome
manufactured...

http://www.kansas.com/2010/07/14/1403115/last-kodachrome-roll-processed.html

   



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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's off by default ...

  View - Show Path Bar


 -bmw

 Ah, useful to note. Thanks for the info. That would go a long way to
 making Finder nicer to work with.

 It's been there since 10.3.

It's not there on either my 10.3 machine or my 10.4 machine. May be
somewhere else but I just checked and I'm not seeing the setting
anywhere. It's certainly not at View-Show Path bar and Help on 10.3
pulls up nothing for Path Bar.


 Another thing you're likely unaware of is that Command-clicking on any
 Finder window's title will reveal a drop-down menu with the entire
 folder path from that window to the volume root. You can open a window
 to any folder on that path by picking it from the menu. This has been
 there since 1991 on all versions of Mac OS. (It also works with most
 application document windows too, a service provided by the Finder.)

That is new to me. Not as useful as the Path/Address bar since it
requires keyboard intervention but still useful, especially since my
machines are older and not running 10.5 or newer.


 I don't use Finder file navigator alternatives because in the 26
 years I've been using Apple Mac OS systems I have yet to find one that
 was as intuitive and sensible to use as the Finder. Most of them are
 heavily laden with yakity-yak nonsense that the Finder does with far
 more subtlety. These products have a ridiculously small market
 penetration, considering the size of the Mac OS installed base. And in
 doing consulting the past six years as an independent, I've discovered
 that the vast majority of problems on most people's systems are solved
 by removing all these poorly designed and implemented add-on things,
 and teaching them how to do what they want with the Finder.

Of course Finder isn't immune to these problems either, as the
show-stopping Move bug in 10.5 showed. And frankly, regardless of the
quality of the replacements, they wouldn't be there if you could do
what they do in Finder easily. And yes, they've added features to the
point of getting crufty. So has OS X and Windows (Expose and its
Windows clone?). We hit the point where adding features over improving
basic usability is a given in each OS update. OS X hit that at 10.5,
arguably at 10.4, Windows did with Vista (Win7 is a downgrade in
usability over Vista, regardless of the backend changes).

Also Finder as 'intuitive and sensible to use'? If you continuously
have to teach people to use it, it ain't. Apple's damned good on
usability, but Finder's just about the least intuitive aspect of the
main OS X UI. Especially if you've used a modern 2-pane or 3-pane file
manager before. Columns View in particular is a real WTF moment the
first time you see it, it's also painful if you're used to a
filesystem tree view.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Bruce Walker

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


If your interest is overall volume space management ... that is, you
want to find out what's taking up space in your system in relation to
everything else and where it is, trim out the things that don't need
to be there, etc, there is a very well designed third party utility
application to do that. It's named Daisy Disk and is available from

http://www.daisydiskapp.com/

This is an excellent, specialist tool with a very useful way of
displaying how files are laid out in the file system, with resolution
right down to the individual file. You can do this type of thing with
the Finder too, but it's not specifically tuned to this kind of
large-scale volume space analysis/management task efficiently.


Godfrey, how does this compare to Disk Inventory X ?  I've been use that 
to spelunk the fs.


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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

 Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a 
 search results window open?

 I would love to be able to use it to find overly-large ISO or ZIP files from 
 my downloads and various other sources... but I can't see the file sizes 
 until I open a NEW finder window in whatever folder contains the file.

 There are two ways to obtain additional information about files
 included in a Finder search window:

 - If you want to find and compare a few files at a time, select those
 files and use the File-Get Info.. command (command-i). This will
 open a static information window for each file selected which allows
 you to compare them easily.

 - If you want to look at size information one at a time, select one
 file, hold the Option key down, and use the File-Show Inspector
 command. The inspector window which opens is dynamic ... as you click
 through the files in the search window it will change to show the Get
 Info detail on each file. If you Shift- or Command-Select a group of
 files, it will  display the number of files and the aggregate of their
 sizes.


Or in Windows Explorer, set the view in the Search Window to Details,
click on the column header bar, select Size (if it isn't already),
click the size column to sort by file size. Displays file sizes for
all found files, no need to select them to see it.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:

 Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a 
 search results window open?

 I would love to be able to use it to find overly-large ISO or ZIP files 
 from my downloads and various other sources... but I can't see the file 
 sizes until I open a NEW finder window in whatever folder contains the file.

 There are two ways to obtain additional information about files
 included in a Finder search window:

 - If you want to find and compare a few files at a time, select those
 files and use the File-Get Info.. command (command-i). This will
 open a static information window for each file selected which allows
 you to compare them easily.

 - If you want to look at size information one at a time, select one
 file, hold the Option key down, and use the File-Show Inspector
 command. The inspector window which opens is dynamic ... as you click
 through the files in the search window it will change to show the Get
 Info detail on each file. If you Shift- or Command-Select a group of
 files, it will  display the number of files and the aggregate of their
 sizes.


 Or in Windows Explorer, set the view in the Search Window to Details,
 click on the column header bar, select Size (if it isn't already),
 click the size column to sort by file size. Displays file sizes for
 all found files, no need to select them to see it.

 -Adam


opps, should be right-click the colour header bar, not click on it.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 It's been there since 10.3.

 It's not there on either my 10.3 machine or my 10.4 machine. May be
 somewhere else but I just checked and I'm not seeing the setting
 anywhere. It's certainly not at View-Show Path bar and Help on 10.3
 pulls up nothing for Path Bar.

My mistake. I thought you meant the path tool drop down:

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Finder_path_tool-Tiger.jpg

The View-Show Path Bar was added in Leopard. I never use it, more
yakity-yak that I don't need to see all the time. ;-)

 Also Finder as 'intuitive and sensible to use'? If you continuously
 have to teach people to use it, it ain't.

Continuously is a bit of an overstatement, Adam, perhaps a biased
misinterpretation to support your opinion. Most of my consulting has
nothing to do with the Finder or users' expertise in using it
properly. And given there are 60-70 million Apple systems out there
and the sum total of users using add-on Finder replacements is
something significantly less than 1% of that total, I'd say the Finder
does ok.

But as I said way upthread, before that mindless homophobic imbecile
William Robb interjected, this isn't a useful discussion for a Pentax
camera equipment discussion forum. And it might be a bit off-putting
for Eric Weir, who was just trying to figure out what had happened to
a file on his computer.

Let's be sensible and agree to disagree. I will not change my opinions
and you won't change yours ... and it makes not one wit of difference
to anything in the universe. :-)

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 23, 2010, at 15:04, Adam Maas wrote:
 
 Or in Windows Explorer, set the view in the Search Window to Details,
 click on the column header bar, select Size (if it isn't already),
 click the size column to sort by file size. Displays file sizes for
 all found files, no need to select them to see it.
 

...which is the one tiny little thing I miss with Finder vs. Windows.  Not 
enough to make me go back, but yeah... I can't fathom why this is not an 
option to just display in the list of found files in OSX.  Its omission seems 
to be clearly the result of a conscious decision on someone's part to leave it 
out.  Or there is some black magic going on somewhere which makes it 
impossible to add???

So I use Disk Inventory X to give me the graphical display of files on the 
drive and the space they occupy.  Much like the freeware SpaceMonger.EXE for 
Windows.  Almost identical, actually.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Bruce,

They do much the same thing. Disk Inventory X is freeware and a little
less innovative in its UI approach, and operates more slowly. I don't
think it's been updated since Mac OS X v10.3. Daisy Disk is commercial
for $20, has a more useful and informative UI, well supported by its
makers, and is up to date for Snow Leopard.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 If your interest is overall volume space management ... that is, you
 want to find out what's taking up space in your system in relation to
 everything else and where it is, trim out the things that don't need
 to be there, etc, there is a very well designed third party utility
 application to do that. It's named Daisy Disk and is available from

 http://www.daisydiskapp.com/

 This is an excellent, specialist tool with a very useful way of
 displaying how files are laid out in the file system, with resolution
 right down to the individual file. You can do this type of thing with
 the Finder too, but it's not specifically tuned to this kind of
 large-scale volume space analysis/management task efficiently.

 Godfrey, how does this compare to Disk Inventory X ?  I've been use that to
 spelunk the fs.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:


 opps, should be right-click the colour header bar, not click on it.

LOL ... so much for clear and intuitive. ;-)


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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:


 opps, should be right-click the colour header bar, not click on it.

 LOL ... so much for clear and intuitive. ;-)


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Of course the problme here is my poor description, not the UI. You
always right-click in Explorer to get contextual menus which this is
and the column headers are always visible so you can select which
options you want visible in Details view even when not in Details
view. The fact I adopted some Brooksian spelling here too (Colour for
Column) doesn't help.




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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 ...which is the one tiny little thing I miss with Finder vs. Windows.  Not 
 enough to make me go back, but yeah... I can't fathom why this is not an 
 option to just display in the list of found files in OSX.  Its omission seems 
 to be clearly the result of a conscious decision on someone's part to leave 
 it out.  Or there is some black magic going on somewhere which makes it 
 impossible to add???

I agree that it would be useful. However, the search might find things
that require an arbitrary amount of processing to determine a size
(eg: a folder full of folders full of folders full of folders of files
... tons of recursive directory search processing, etc ... you get the
idea) so I think they are reluctant to put in a Size column in the
display so as not to degrade responsiveness.

It's kind of like the lack of filtering by focal length in Lightroom.
Focal length is encoded in the EXIF data a number of different ways,
manufacturer to manufacturer, and up to Lightroom v2.7 Adobe didn't
want to provide the filter and sort by focal length because of the
amount of processing it could entail. (I haven't checked LR3 to see
whether it's in there yet.) I've submitted several feature request for
it. ;-)

 So I use Disk Inventory X to give me the graphical display of files on the 
 drive and the space they occupy.  Much like the freeware SpaceMonger.EXE 
 for Windows.  Almost identical, actually.

As mentioned to Bruce Walker, it's the equivalent of the app I
recommended and use, Daisy Disk. Not as nicely finished UI-wise, but
it works fine.
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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 23, 2010, at 16:05, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 I agree that it would be useful. However, the search might find things
 that require an arbitrary amount of processing to determine a size
 (eg: a folder full of folders full of folders full of folders of files
 ... tons of recursive directory search processing, etc ... you get the
 idea) so I think they are reluctant to put in a Size column in the
 display so as not to degrade responsiveness.
 

File sizes for files, nothing for folders...  it wouldn't be hard I would 
think.  But nevermind...

 It's kind of like the lack of filtering by focal length in Lightroom.
 Focal length is encoded in the EXIF data a number of different ways,
 manufacturer to manufacturer, and up to Lightroom v2.7 Adobe didn't
 want to provide the filter and sort by focal length because of the
 amount of processing it could entail. (I haven't checked LR3 to see
 whether it's in there yet.) I've submitted several feature request for
 it. ;-)

They do now!  It's nice.

 -Charles

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Re: Last Roll of Kodachrome Processed

2010-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Ed Keeney wrote:


An article in the Wichita Times about the last roll of Kodachrome
manufactured...

http://www.kansas.com/2010/07/14/1403115/last-kodachrome-roll-processed.html

 


Ed - really enjoyed that _ thanks - I loved PKR, too
Well enjoyed  is possibly the wrong word - I'll lookforward to seeing 
that National Geo special


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Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?

2010-07-23 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 01:46:22PM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote:
 On Jul 23, 2010, at 10:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
  
  When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and
  depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right
  hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right
  hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn
  to click.
  
 
 I hold the camera in my RIGHT hand, with the lens facing away.  Pretty much 
 the same grip I use to shoot with.  Camera is still facing whatever the 
 subject is (which, in my high-school days, was usually a stage with rock 
 musicians on it).
 
 Ring finger of the right hand reaches in to press the release button.
 
 Left hand twists the lens out of the mount.  Left hand drops the lens into 
 whatever bag or pocket I have handy...
 
  -Charles

That's pretty much how I do it, too.  It works pretty well if
I'm switching big, heavy lenses around; the camera is supported
by the neck strap, and I've got my left hand holding the lens.

Of course I'm left-handed, so what is convenient for me might
not be quite as convenient for the rest of the world.

Guess how much I care - I have to suffer enough living in a right-
handed world; it's good karma if some things work better for me.


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Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's

2010-07-23 Thread Derby Chang

Larry Colen wrote:

A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and asked 
me to come out and photograph it.
This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/

exif data at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/meta/in/set-72157624563427022

This was shot from the back of the room with the A* 200/2.8 on a monopod using 
the K-x, ISO 1600 f/4.5 1/40. I brought the color in about as close as I could, 
but the red lights were very heavy.

The guy there with the Canon 5D ended up shooting with flash towards the end of 
the evening rather than shooting at 1600. I haven't seen his photos yet, but 
it'll be interesting to see how the K-x compares.  If you look at the set, the 
*LRC* shots were K20, the *IMGP* shots were K-x.

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I cooliris'd the whole set. Darn fine.

and GR to photographers who use flash at a gig. Not cool

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2010-07-23 14:02 , Bruce Walker wrote:

Godfrey, how does this compare to Disk Inventory X ? I've been use that
to spelunk the fs.


i'm not Godfrey, but i've used several such tools including Disk 
Inventory X, Filelight (looks a lot like DaisyDisk), WhatSize and 
OmniDiskSweeper; while the graphical view of the former two can be 
illuminating i prefer the column view of the latter two for productivity 
in managing disk space; i slightly prefer WhatSize, but OmniDiskSweeper 
is free


http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnidisksweeper/


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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2010-07-23 14:27 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

And it might be a bit off-putting
for Eric Weir, who was just trying to figure out what had happened to
a file on his computer.


except it was Eric who was using Path Finder, so presumably he (together 
with me constituting the less than 1%, i guess) is more open than most 
to considering the ins and outs of built-in and add-on tools for Mac OS X



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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2010-07-23 13:02 , Charles Robinson wrote:

Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a 
search results window open?


Finder's search results windows frustrate me a lot ... Path Finder can 
search in various ways including with Spotlight, and can show file sizes 
and a lot more that Finder can't in the result window, and you can sort 
any of those columns; it doesn't slow things down







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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:20 PM, steve harley wrote:

 consider turning off Path Finder's Smart Sorting (in the View menu) -- i 
 gave up on it long ago, for perhaps the same reason that had you missing 
 something that was in plain sight

I'll check into it, Steve. Only discovered, after the responses to my initial 
post on this thread, how items are sorted in Path Finder, i.e., at least on my 
setup, applications, packages, folders, then files. I do like having folders 
near the top, though, rather than distributed alphabetically with files, as 
they are in Finder. It makes it navigating through the directory a little 
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Re: A lesson

2010-07-23 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:19 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:

 One way is to pick a spot on the court, prefocus, and follow the action until 
 it comes to that spot. If you focus on the rim, you can get some good 
 rebounding and layup shots. If you want to focus moving action, follow one 
 player and focus continuously as he moves, then trip the shutter when you 
 think you have your shot.

Thank's, Paul. Toward the end of the session last night I started experimenting 
with that. Encouraged to find that my intuitions lead me -- or should I say led 
me; let's not generalize too rashly here, Eric -- to the right technique.
 
 Of course, the most important step in learning to focus action is practice, 
 practice and more practice.

With that kind of shooting, for sure. I was encouraged to learn from one of the 
articles on Godfrey's site that with practice, manual focusing can become 
second nature and very precise.

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Re: A lesson

2010-07-23 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:44 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Like Paul's suggestion, i found the best thing to do is find a good
 fence, pre focus and shoot when i had what i wanted.
 
 I pretty much still do that today, even with AF lenses.
 
 Practice practice

Thanks, David. Very encouraging.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 On 2010-07-23 14:27 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 And it might be a bit off-putting
 for Eric Weir, who was just trying to figure out what had happened to
 a file on his computer.

 except it was Eric who was using Path Finder, so presumably he (together
 with me constituting the less than 1%, i guess) is more open than most to
 considering the ins and outs of built-in and add-on tools for Mac OS X

It would have been good if he'd mentioned that when he asked the
question. It would have made the answer almost instantaneous. This is
what happens when you are providing support and people are using
non-standard bits in place of the normal ways of doing things: it
slows down the ability to help.

But as they say, de gustibus non disputandem. I get what I need done
efficiently and without any problems, and I'm happy with how my system
works. May it be the same for you.
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Re: A lesson

2010-07-23 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:00 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 The Ds has continuous Auto Focus as a menu item, but it still can't usefully 
 accomplish it.

And I want to do manual -- focusing and exposure -- as much as possible. 
Perhaps after I've got good at that, I'll be more open to auto.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2010-07-23 17:23 , Eric Weir wrote:

Only discovered, after the responses to my initial post on this thread, how 
items are sorted in Path Finder, i.e., at least on my setup, applications, 
packages, folders, then files. I do like having folders near the top, though, 
rather than distributed alphabetically with files, as they are in Finder. It 
makes it navigating through the directory a little easier.


in case i wasn't clear, that is a setting Smart Sorting than you can 
change; while i liked the idea some years ago when i first tried it, i 
turned it off after a while; in certain folders with many items where i 
want certain subfolders to be always handy, i add an underscore to the 
subfolder names to sort them to the top


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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread steve harley

On 2010-07-23 12:41 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I don't use Finder file navigator alternatives because in the 26
years I've been using Apple Mac OS systems I have yet to find one that
was as intuitive and sensible to use as the Finder. Most of them are
heavily laden with yakity-yak nonsense that the Finder does with far
more subtlety.


Path Finder is burdened with some kid stuff but thankfully most of it 
is off by default; i use it for a few not so kiddy things:


  - the NeXT-like shelf
  - tabbed windows
  - recent documents in sidebar
  - the more detailed and Unixy file info display
  - built in shell (though i keep coming back to iTerm)
  - the ability to apply labels*
  - the back button*
  - the sorting in column view*

my favorite Path Finder Feature ever, though it was removed in newer 
versions, is outline-style disclosure triangles within column view -- 
this was a big win for file management, but tabs and the dual browser 
feature almost make up for it


all of the above are features i find very sensible and would like to see 
in Finder; there is hope based on the ones Finder has already adopted(*)


i use one Path Finder window with multiple tabs alongside a few more 
transient Finder windows; often i use the Finder contextual menu to open 
the same folder in Path Finder



These products have a ridiculously small market
penetration, considering the size of the Mac OS installed base.


doesn't mean they are bad, just means a lot of people use their Macs 
just for basic stuff; Pentax has a small market penetration too ...



And in
doing consulting the past six years as an independent, I've discovered
that the vast majority of problems on most people's systems are solved
by removing all these poorly designed and implemented add-on things,
and teaching them how to do what they want with the Finder.


naive people can get in trouble when seduced by the promises of things 
they don't have, but the answer i think is prudence, not abstinence; 
that policy has served me well, via a handful of carefully chosen tools 
and techniques; i don't teach them to newbies though




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Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's

2010-07-23 Thread Larry Colen

On Jul 23, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Derby Chang wrote:

 Larry Colen wrote:
 A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and 
 asked me to come out and photograph it.
 This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/
 
 exif data at:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/meta/in/set-72157624563427022
 
 This was shot from the back of the room with the A* 200/2.8 on a monopod 
 using the K-x, ISO 1600 f/4.5 1/40. I brought the color in about as close as 
 I could, but the red lights were very heavy.
 
 The guy there with the Canon 5D ended up shooting with flash towards the end 
 of the evening rather than shooting at 1600. I haven't seen his photos yet, 
 but it'll be interesting to see how the K-x compares.  If you look at the 
 set, the *LRC* shots were K20, the *IMGP* shots were K-x.
 
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 I cooliris'd the whole set. Darn fine.

Thanks a lot.
I've not heard of cooliris, so I'm checking it out now.

 
 and GR to photographers who use flash at a gig. Not cool

Apparently Roni asked Michelle, and Michelle doesn't mind the flash.  


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Re: Last Roll of Kodachrome Processed

2010-07-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Does Paul Simon know about this?

Dan

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Ed Keeney wrote:

 An article in the Wichita Times about the last roll of Kodachrome
 manufactured...


 http://www.kansas.com/2010/07/14/1403115/last-kodachrome-roll-processed.html



 Ed - really enjoyed that _ thanks - I loved PKR, too
 Well enjoyed  is possibly the wrong word - I'll lookforward to seeing that
 National Geo special

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PZ1p

2010-07-23 Thread Bran Everseeking
what would the value of a PZ1p be?  going through My Father in Law's
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PESO - Cool Down

2010-07-23 Thread paul stenquist
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317012

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Eric Weir

On Jul 23, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 It would have been good if he'd mentioned that when he asked the
 question. It would have made the answer almost instantaneous. This is
 what happens when you are providing support and people are using
 non-standard bits in place of the normal ways of doing things: it
 slows down the ability to help.

You've opened my eyes to possibilities with Finder I didn't know about, that if 
I'd known about I might not have gone looking for a replacement. Also my mind 
to the possibility that it's far more versatile than I realized.

That said, I find it interesting that it's been extremely easy for me to 
discover and use Path Finder's features, whereas with Finder they remained 
hidden. I don't know if there's a manual for Path Finder, if there is I never 
read it. Have hardly ever even used help. And I think I posted to its support 
forum only once.

I agree Path Finder may be cluttered up with features that few use. With a 
little instruction I might even come to prefer Finder's more zen-like approach 
compared to Path Finder's clutter. But I would need some instruction to get me 
started.

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PESOS - Summer Visitor

2010-07-23 Thread paul stenquist
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317015size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317016size=lg

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Re: PZ1p

2010-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
I payed $200CDN for one about a month ago.

-Adam

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Re: PZ1p

2010-07-23 Thread George Sinos
keh.com online quote is $40 for a pz1p in excellent condition.

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On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Bran Everseeking
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Re: PZ1p

2010-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
That's what they're paying, which is below market value. They sell
them for $110-120 in EX condition.

-Adam

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 keh.com online quote is $40 for a pz1p in excellent condition.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 5:11 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 Path Finder is burdened with some kid stuff but thankfully most of it is
 off by default; i use it for a few not so kiddy things:

  - the NeXT-like shelf
  - tabbed windows
  - recent documents in sidebar
  - the more detailed and Unixy file info display
  - built in shell (though i keep coming back to iTerm)
  - the ability to apply labels*
  - the back button*
  - the sorting in column view*

 my favorite Path Finder Feature ever, though it was removed in newer
 versions, is outline-style disclosure triangles within column view -- this
 was a big win for file management, but tabs and the dual browser feature
 almost make up for it

I find all of these things to be visual clutter. None of them are pose
any opportunity to get my work done more efficiently or make it more
convenient to do so.

Sorry, I'm totally uninterested in Path Finder. I'm glad you find it useful.

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Re: PZ1p

2010-07-23 Thread George Sinos
So the bottom line, quick sale to a dealer will net you about $40-50.
If you take the time to sell it yourself, you'll get around $100-125.

George Sinos

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On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 That's what they're paying, which is below market value. They sell
 them for $110-120 in EX condition.

 -Adam

 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:58 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 keh.com online quote is $40 for a pz1p in excellent condition.

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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?

2010-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 You've opened my eyes to possibilities with Finder I didn't know about, that 
 if I'd known about I might not have gone looking for a replacement. Also my 
 mind to the possibility that it's far more versatile than I realized.

 That said, I find it interesting that it's been extremely easy for me to 
 discover and use Path Finder's features, whereas with Finder they remained 
 hidden. I don't know if there's a manual for Path Finder, if there is I never 
 read it. Have hardly ever even used help. And I think I posted to its support 
 forum only once.

 I agree Path Finder may be cluttered up with features that few use. With a 
 little instruction I might even come to prefer Finder's more zen-like 
 approach compared to Path Finder's clutter. But I would need some instruction 
 to get me started.

I'm glad to help.

The hallmark of the Finder, like most Apple software, is that it is
subtle. Most Apple software is subtle in that most people can easily
figure out the basics and get most of what they need done without
looking at or reading a manual. And most Apple software is much deeper
than that surface appearance and takes a some study to unlock and
understand all the things that it can do. The reason for this design
is to decrease visual noise and make the operating system basics easy
to remember for people who prefer to concentrate on their work rather
than on operating the computer ... a sparse minimalism with broad
functionality. It's the Apple corporate aesthetic.

I happen to like it. That's why I the Apple Macintosh in 1984, and why
I continue to use Mac OS X systems now.

People write books like Mac OS X: The Missing Manual to expose
verbosely what the system can do for people who can't discover it on
their own. Nothing wrong with that. Others write more explicitly
verbose applications to do things that the provided system already
does, like Path Finder.

But most of what's in books like The Missing Manual is already
documented in the Mac OS X Help system ... just like most of what's in
Path Finder  is already in the Finder and the other tools built into
the system ... but most people never look into the help system for
help.

Just like few ever read the manuals that come with their cameras... to
return this back to a photographic footing. ;-)
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Re: PESOS - Summer Visitor

2010-07-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Excellent captures.  Isn't the critter more yellow in color?
The strong light seems to wash it out.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESOS - Summer Visitor

2010-07-23 Thread paul stenquist
He's a swallowtail, and he was quite yellow a few days ago. He's old and fading 
like me:-).
Paul
On Jul 23, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Paul,
 Excellent captures.  Isn't the critter more yellow in color?
 The strong light seems to wash it out.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
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Re: PZ1p

2010-07-23 Thread CheekyGeek
The last two answers are in the price range that I have seen them go
for most often. ($125-150 for body only).
If it has a 50mm AF lens on it, that is worth more than the body.

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:16 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 So the bottom line, quick sale to a dealer will net you about $40-50.
 If you take the time to sell it yourself, you'll get around $100-125.

 George Sinos
 
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 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 That's what they're paying, which is below market value. They sell
 them for $110-120 in EX condition.

 -Adam

 On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:58 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 keh.com online quote is $40 for a pz1p in excellent condition.

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OT was PESO: Monaco II

2010-07-23 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21/07/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I find dropbox to be pretty easy to use and not particularly intrusive,\
 either their PC based interface, or through the web, (though uploading
 multiple files through the web interface seems to be hit or miss, mostly
 miss these days).

I've set it up on several systems now, I'm pretty impressed, combined
with the free logmein it provides a pretty comprehensive free remote
access solution too, thanks for the tip.

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Re: PZ1p

2010-07-23 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:07:53 -0500
CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote:

 The last two answers are in the price range that I have seen them go
 for most often. ($125-150 for body only).

thanks all.  

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Re: PESOS - Summer Visitor

2010-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
Nice work, Paul. I do prefer the open wings and crop on the first.

Jack

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Re: PESO - Cool Down

2010-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
Very cool, Paul. ;)  Really like the power you caught the water.

Jack

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Re: PESOS - Summer Visitor

2010-07-23 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks Jack. This was an easy one. I think he was tired. 90 degree temps at the 
end of the day may have slowed him down as well.
Paul

On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Nice work, Paul. I do prefer the open wings and crop on the first.
 
 Jack
 
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