peso - twin peaks
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Re: peso - twin peaks
On 23/07/2010, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4808390049/lightbox/ Hi Sasha, I like this image, great detail and an interesting perspective but again the colours and saturation disturb me. It reports as sRGB but it's washed out and the sky seems purple, opening it as sRGB im PS then assigning the ProPhoto CS seems to bring it to life, the colours look as I would expect. Are you sure that this isn't an sRGB image? See the straight ProPhotoRGB to sRGB CS assignment: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/4808390049_7778ab4b46_o-sRGB.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I guess we work rather differently. I almost never zoom a lens while I look through the viewfinder ... I pick what focal length I want to use and then pull the lens up to my eye. Ok, so you use your zooms like a set of primes to choose from. In that case, I understand the zoom ring turning has no relevance. That's funny ... I shot with Nikon gear for 30+ years. Pentax/Canon/Olympus etc all felt backwards to me on the lens mount until relatively recently. the location of the lens release button on the Pentax was always an awkward thing for me, I'm used to it being on the opposite side of the lens. :-) Of course, it mainly depends on what system you are accustomed to. This said, I believe the ideal lens release button must be comfortable to reach with the left hand, while keeping the lens with your right hand (for right-handed people). So the position of Pentax release button is better if you change the lens while looking at the front of your camera (turned toward you). That was the way I worked for years with cameras such as the MX and the ME Super. With cameras having a big grip like those in fashion today, I tend to change lenses from above, with the lens pointing forward and the camera back resting on my belly. In that case, a lens release button placed like Canon and Olympus is better. Wherever the lens release is, I find no big problem. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warm up for Malakoff Rockfestival
Tim Øsleby wrote: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/ingrid-olava-at-gymen.html I really had to push the camera hard this time. Two shots at 3200. Lowest ISO was 2000. I've seen worse from a obsolete camera. Ok there's a vertical stripe in some frames, but I can live with that. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ Trippy. I love how intimate the venue looks. Pretty good lighting even if you say you had to push it. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warm up for Malakoff Rockfestival
I like those pictures, each one and as a whole set. The different moments and the different points of view make all them well worth. No big problems with ISO 3200. My favorites are 1088 and 1423. Cheers, Dario - Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 2:38 AM Subject: Warm up for Malakoff Rockfestival http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/ingrid-olava-at-gymen.html I really had to push the camera hard this time. Two shots at 3200. Lowest ISO was 2000. I've seen worse from a obsolete camera. Ok there's a vertical stripe in some frames, but I can live with that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Warm up for Malakoff Rockfestival
Tim, That is a really nice set of performance photos. It catches the atmosphere of the place. The performers look in focus, and performing for the audience. The first shot should be an album cover. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/07/ingrid-olava-at-gymen.html I really had to push the camera hard this time. Two shots at 3200. Lowest ISO was 2000. I've seen worse from a obsolete camera. Ok there's a vertical stripe in some frames, but I can live with that. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2 new cameras in Photokina
Yes, but the other half of the sensor lies along the imaginary axis . . . We get full frame? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: in the pub
http://flic.kr/p/8m1brE pentax k10d fa 50 1.4 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?
I have an E-P1 but it's very similar. Nicer body but no flash.I've found it to be a surprisingly effective camera. AF is slow on the E-P1 but IQ is good. I especially like the MF mode that goes to max magnification automatically. It makes MF far more useful than most modern cameras. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:21 AM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I'm trying to persuade my wife to move up to something better than her old Casio Exilim. I'm tempted by the Micro 4/3 systems, and the Olympus E-PL1 seems to have the ease of use and simplicity that my wife is looking for (without being so large that she would refuse to carry it around) at a pretty decent price. Even with an extra lens (the 40-150) it's still cheaper than the Panasonic, and has in-body image stabilisation. The optional electronic view- finder might be interesting, too, although it's more likely to be something that I would use than something my wife would consider. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement, Pentaxland vacation photos and other stuff
Just some hours in Manila, connecting the international flight with the domestic, the rest of the time in Boracay. Are you close to Manila? On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Hey cool! You were here... Bong On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, After a year of asking for tripod advice I finally pulled the trigger. I got somewhat newer versions of the legs and head: Manfrotto 055XPROB and a Manfrotto 496RC2 head, but boy, what an upgrade from my $20 elcheapo tripod, just the experience of having a tripod of my height is exhilarating ;-) Expect my photos to be sharp for a difference now... I'm already salivating after carbon fiber legs, some better heads and a pano thingy, but this combo is a quantum leap -or feels like that for now. I also fought my procrastination and processed my vacation photos; I don't feel I had much luck this time -no 2011 Pdml-book photo yet- but some funny pictures. In Boracay the best snorkeling experience ever, some interesting thunderstorms and other stuff. In Tokyo not so much, but I can blame jet lag for that -only 4 jetlagged days there. I kept it short -19 photos each album Boracay: slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624548005050/show/ or all of them together http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624548005050/ Tokyo slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624423201883/show/ or all of them together http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624423201883/ Changes in my work are keeping away from the list, but I check it now and them, hope everyone is fine. Later Fernando -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Enablement, Pentaxland vacation photos and other stuff
Yup. Quezon City, just north of the City of Manila. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Just some hours in Manila, connecting the international flight with the domestic, the rest of the time in Boracay. Are you close to Manila? On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Hey cool! You were here... Bong On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, After a year of asking for tripod advice I finally pulled the trigger. I got somewhat newer versions of the legs and head: Manfrotto 055XPROB and a Manfrotto 496RC2 head, but boy, what an upgrade from my $20 elcheapo tripod, just the experience of having a tripod of my height is exhilarating ;-) Expect my photos to be sharp for a difference now... I'm already salivating after carbon fiber legs, some better heads and a pano thingy, but this combo is a quantum leap -or feels like that for now. I also fought my procrastination and processed my vacation photos; I don't feel I had much luck this time -no 2011 Pdml-book photo yet- but some funny pictures. In Boracay the best snorkeling experience ever, some interesting thunderstorms and other stuff. In Tokyo not so much, but I can blame jet lag for that -only 4 jetlagged days there. I kept it short -19 photos each album Boracay: slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624548005050/show/ or all of them together http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624548005050/ Tokyo slideshow: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624423201883/show/ or all of them together http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ferand/sets/72157624423201883/ Changes in my work are keeping away from the list, but I check it now and them, hope everyone is fine. Later Fernando -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Main stream radio
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:01 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: i happened read a different view of Sirius this morning at http://reciprocity-failure.blogspot.com/2010/07/666.html an all 60's music station which seemed like a little piece of heaven (until you realize it has a play list of 25 songs) Been listening to 60's on 6 for a number of hours now. At 3 minutes a song this alleged play list should have looped in about an hour and 15 minutes ot and hour and a half. Nope. Sounds like another bitter internet user. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - To stoler. Nede på brygga.
I like it, but agree with Rick on maybe a small sky crop, as opposed to a small sky cap. Dave On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: Another one I'm not entirely sure about, but I'll show it to you anyway: http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga9 More of that ol'film... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Hardware Store
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Another from Main St., Great Barrington, MA: Canopy (here goes my repeating patterns thing again): http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11294972 I like the pattern here and the bit of metal crossing the pattern. Primary colors (not repeating patterns!): http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11305824size=lg Humm, interesting, not sure though Dave (K7 and DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lenses again, again
On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jul 22, 2010, at 16:50, Eric Weir wrote: I've won an SMC A 28mm f2.8 on eBay for $90. Other sellers were asking a little to a lot more. Sweet! That's about what I paid for mine a few years ago. And it's less than half what some sellers who had only buy it now prices, i.e., who were not accepting bids, were asking. I'm finding a wide range of prices for the smc a 70-210mm macro lens as well, including among those who have only buy it now prices. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - twin peaks
Rob, you are absolutely right. Does anyone know how to change (or embed a missing) color profile without PS? Thanks, --Sasha On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/07/2010, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4808390049/lightbox/ Hi Sasha, I like this image, great detail and an interesting perspective but again the colours and saturation disturb me. It reports as sRGB but it's washed out and the sky seems purple, opening it as sRGB im PS then assigning the ProPhoto CS seems to bring it to life, the colours look as I would expect. Are you sure that this isn't an sRGB image? See the straight ProPhotoRGB to sRGB CS assignment: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9304908/4808390049_7778ab4b46_o-sRGB.jpg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A lesson
Last night I took my camera, a *ist DS, to one of the sites of a recreation program we run, an outdoor basketball court, in a community that's about 80 percent low-income, half African American and half refugees literally from all over the world. I plunked myself down on a bench on the shaded end of the court, under one of the baskets. The other end was still in direct sunlight. I had my 50mm M on the camera, set for continuous shooting. It was my first attempt at real action photography. Trying to keep focus while the kids moved from one end of the court to the other, to maintain proper exposure as they moved in and out of shadow, and to do it all manually was a real challenge. I kept forgetting punch the exposure lock button to reset the shutter speed as kids moved around. My feeble attempts at framing shots were largely ineffective. I've only skimmed the images in the camera. There are a handful the kids would find interesting, but nothing that would impress anyone here. I'm not disappointed. It was experience. I can get pointers here and from books, etc., but it is experience that will teach me, that will make other sources of information meaningful. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: .. the location of the lens release button on the Pentax was always an awkward thing for me, I'm used to it being on the opposite side of the lens. Of course, it mainly depends on what system you are accustomed to. This said, I believe the ideal lens release button must be comfortable to reach with the left hand, while keeping the lens with your right hand (for right-handed people). So the position of Pentax release button is better if you change the lens while looking at the front of your camera (turned toward you). That was the way I worked for years with cameras such as the MX and the ME Super. With cameras having a big grip like those in fashion today, I tend to change lenses from above, with the lens pointing forward and the camera back resting on my belly. In that case, a lens release button placed like Canon and Olympus is better. Wherever the lens release is, I find no big problem. When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn to click. The position of the Pentax lens release made it hard to figure out which hand to use to press the release ... drove me a little crazy for a long time. It's amusing to think of it this way, but it's one of the reasons I moved to FourThirds bodies ... the lens release button was much more comfortable to me. LOL! -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - twin peaks
Well not at all what I was expecting. I've been up there many times and this is not the typical scene. Thanks for surprising me. A nice shot and kudos for coming up with something out of the ordinary. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4808390049/lightbox/ Comments and critique welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A lesson
On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Last night I took my camera, a *ist DS, to one of the sites of a recreation program we run, an outdoor basketball court, in a community that's about 80 percent low-income, half African American and half refugees literally from all over the world. I plunked myself down on a bench on the shaded end of the court, under one of the baskets. The other end was still in direct sunlight. I had my 50mm M on the camera, set for continuous shooting. It was my first attempt at real action photography. Trying to keep focus while the kids moved from one end of the court to the other, to maintain proper exposure as they moved in and out of shadow, and to do it all manually was a real challenge. I kept forgetting punch the exposure lock button to reset the shutter speed as kids moved around. My feeble attempts at framing shots were largely ineffective. I've only skimmed the images in the camera. There are a handful the kids would find interesting, but nothing that would impress anyone here. I'm not disappointed. It was experience. I can get pointers here and from books, etc., but it is experience that will teach me, that will make other sources of information meaningful. Good experience to be sure. Shooting basket ball with manual focus is difficult. One way is to pick a spot on the court, prefocus, and follow the action until it comes to that spot. If you focus on the rim, you can get some good rebounding and layup shots. If you want to focus moving action, follow one player and focus continuously as he moves, then trip the shutter when you think you have your shot. This last technique mimics what happens when using continuous autofocus with a good autofocus system. I don't think the *istDS can accomplish that, so your probably better off focusing manually in any case. The K7 can do it, but not with 100% accuracy. Of course, the most important step in learning to focus action is practice, practice and more practice. Paul -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: In Windows, click on Windows Explorer, and there is your computer. You can even customize it's start location (or could in everything up to XP, I haven't bothered to try with Win7 yet). If it isn't that easy ion a Mac, they have some work to do. It's easier. In Mac OS X, you don't have to click on Finder or anything to find your computer. The Finder is started up by the operating system as soon as you login, it is always available. It presents the Desktop folder in whatever account you're logged in on as the backdrop screen. You can configure whatever file system location you want it to present as default, in whichever of its display modes is most useful to you, whenever you open a new Finder window to navigate the file system. It stays running while you have other applications running so that you have immediate and easy access to the file system at all times. But this isn't a useful discussion for a Pentax camera equipment discussion forum. Of course it isn't, but most of what is discussed here isn't, so why play traffic cop? Jeez, you're such a goddam pill. Having another stupid pissing match over Windows vs Mac OS X must be a special pleasure to you. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso - twin peaks
Excellent composition. It's a shot that holds my interest. Well done. Paul On Jul 23, 2010, at 2:18 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4808390049/lightbox/ Comments and critique welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A lesson
When i started to shoot horse, in 1997, i used a K1000 and the A35-70 or A80-200 manual lenses. Like Paul's suggestion, i found the best thing to do is find a good fence, pre focus and shoot when i had what i wanted. I pretty much still do that today, even with AF lenses. Practice practice Dave On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Last night I took my camera, a *ist DS, to one of the sites of a recreation program we run, an outdoor basketball court, in a community that's about 80 percent low-income, half African American and half refugees literally from all over the world. I plunked myself down on a bench on the shaded end of the court, under one of the baskets. The other end was still in direct sunlight. I had my 50mm M on the camera, set for continuous shooting. It was my first attempt at real action photography. Trying to keep focus while the kids moved from one end of the court to the other, to maintain proper exposure as they moved in and out of shadow, and to do it all manually was a real challenge. I kept forgetting punch the exposure lock button to reset the shutter speed as kids moved around. My feeble attempts at framing shots were largely ineffective. I've only skimmed the images in the camera. There are a handful the kids would find interesting, but nothing that would impress anyone here. I'm not disappointed. It was experience. I can get pointers here and from books, etc., but it is experience that will teach me, that will make other sources of information meaningful. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
-- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Where is Lightroom hiding? Jeez, you're such a goddam pill. Having another stupid pissing match over Windows vs Mac OS X must be a special pleasure to you. And you're a fucking asshole as soon as someone has the temerity to disagree with you. Where, Mr. Shithead, do you figure you get off at being the list police. Maybe when you buy the thing, you'll have some say, but until then your just another little prigfucker. I've already killfiled your boring ass picture posts, I suppose it's time to send you to jco/marnie/matyolaville. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?
The original Pentax design with the indexing bump on the lens made a lot more sense. Holding the camera with the right hand, cradle the lens with the left with your pointing finger over the bump, lens mount to the front. Touch the lens release with your pointing finger. The lens is properly oriented to mount on the camera. With a little practice you can do this without looking. To remove the lens holding the camera with the right hand, grab the lens with the left hand and press the lens release with the middle or third finger on the right. However the indexing bump is history as of the FA lenses, (except on some of the limited lenses), and the release button has been repositioned so it no longer lines up properly from the *ist cameras forward. I guess no one complained. On 7/23/2010 11:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: .. the location of the lens release button on the Pentax was always an awkward thing for me, I'm used to it being on the opposite side of the lens. Of course, it mainly depends on what system you are accustomed to. This said, I believe the ideal lens release button must be comfortable to reach with the left hand, while keeping the lens with your right hand (for right-handed people). So the position of Pentax release button is better if you change the lens while looking at the front of your camera (turned toward you). That was the way I worked for years with cameras such as the MX and the ME Super. With cameras having a big grip like those in fashion today, I tend to change lenses from above, with the lens pointing forward and the camera back resting on my belly. In that case, a lens release button placed like Canon and Olympus is better. Wherever the lens release is, I find no big problem. When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn to click. The position of the Pentax lens release made it hard to figure out which hand to use to press the release ... drove me a little crazy for a long time. It's amusing to think of it this way, but it's one of the reasons I moved to FourThirds bodies ... the lens release button was much more comfortable to me. LOL! -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A lesson
On 7/23/2010 11:19 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Eric Weir wrote: Last night I took my camera, a *ist DS, to one of the sites of a recreation program we run, an outdoor basketball court, in a community that's about 80 percent low-income, half African American and half refugees literally from all over the world. I plunked myself down on a bench on the shaded end of the court, under one of the baskets. The other end was still in direct sunlight. I had my 50mm M on the camera, set for continuous shooting. It was my first attempt at real action photography. Trying to keep focus while the kids moved from one end of the court to the other, to maintain proper exposure as they moved in and out of shadow, and to do it all manually was a real challenge. I kept forgetting punch the exposure lock button to reset the shutter speed as kids moved around. My feeble attempts at framing shots were largely ineffective. I've only skimmed the images in the camera. There are a handful the kids would find interesting, but nothing that would impress anyone here. I'm not disappointed. It was experience. I can get pointers here and from books, etc., but it is experience that will teach me, that will make other sources of information meaningful. Good experience to be sure. Shooting basket ball with manual focus is difficult. One way is to pick a spot on the court, prefocus, and follow the action until it comes to that spot. If you focus on the rim, you can get some good rebounding and layup shots. If you want to focus moving action, follow one player and focus continuously as he moves, then trip the shutter when you think you have your shot. This last technique mimics what happens when using continuous autofocus with a good autofocus system. I don't think the *istDS can accomplish that, so your probably better off focusing manually in any case. The K7 can do it, but not with 100% accuracy. The Ds has continuous Auto Focus as a menu item, but it still can't usefully accomplish it. Of course, the most important step in learning to focus action is practice, practice and more practice. Paul -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:56 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: In Windows, click on Windows Explorer, and there is your computer. You can even customize it's start location (or could in everything up to XP, I haven't bothered to try with Win7 yet). If it isn't that easy ion a Mac, they have some work to do. It's easier. In Mac OS X, you don't have to click on Finder or anything to find your computer. The Finder is started up by the operating system as soon as you login, it is always available. It presents the Desktop folder in whatever account you're logged in on as the backdrop screen. You can configure whatever file system location you want it to present as default, in whichever of its display modes is most useful to you, whenever you open a new Finder window to navigate the file system. It stays running while you have other applications running so that you have immediate and easy access to the file system at all times. That is in fact exactly how it works in Windows, KDE and Gnome as well. In all cases the file browser is always running, but you need to open a window for it if it's not already open. On the Mac you have a window open by default on startup unless you tell it not too, Windows doesn't open a window unless you tell it to (but you can tell it to open one simply by dragging that folder to the startup folder in the start menu). Apple has improved the Finder significantly with Leopard, it's not the absolutely atrocious app that it was up through 10.4, but it's still not up to the capabilities of the current Windows Explorer for navigation (or Nautilus and Konqueror, which MS copied heavily in the updates to Explorer introduced in Vista). The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if it's clickable like it is on Vista and later (Or Nautilus and Konqueror, Konqueror introduced this idea) which massively speeds up jumping around the filesystem. Having full directory trees in the sidebar is also a major advantage, the multi-pane view that Apple uses instead only provides limited equivalence as you can see multiple filesystem trees from one window with Explorer from all locations. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: in the pub
Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: http://flic.kr/p/8m1brE pentax k10d fa 50 1.4 love it ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On 2010-07-22 16:26 , Eric Weir wrote: On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ah, you've got the Finder view of the Applications window set to sort by Kind. If you set it to sort by Name the 'Adobe Lightroom 3' application will sort with the rest of the Adobe products in their folders. ;-) Actually, I don't use the Finder. I use Path Finder. consider turning off Path Finder's Smart Sorting (in the View menu) -- i gave up on it long ago, for perhaps the same reason that had you missing something that was in plain sight -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On 2010-07-22 20:11 , Adam Maas wrote: While I can understand Godfrey's choice not to use a replacement as he needs to be familiar offhand with the basic Finder UI for professional reasons, I thoroughly understand why any user who doesn't need to walk others through basic file mangement steps would quickly move up to a Finder replacement. one can be familiar with Finder (to help others) _and_ use other tools Unfortunately OS X seems to be stuck in the paradigm that pervasive search is an adequate replacement for a decent file manager. i don't see any sense of replacement, just two complementary paradigms, and i don't feel Finder is indecent -- QuickLook, for one, is a fantastic feature; i disliked Spotlight for a long time, but being able to quickly find one email out of hundreds of thousands won me over; i still haven't mastered Spotlight's query language, but given how much i use Google it's only natural to expect the same kind of ability from an OS Coincidentally it's also the only major OS which has a steady market for replacements file management apps. first of all, the market for Mac OS X file manager replacements seems rather weak to me; Path Finder (which i have used for years) is really the only major contender, but is a niche player; there are many tools to enhance _navigation_ on Mac OS X, but not so many to enhance _management_ secondly, your statement seems contradicted by the proliferation of GUI file managers on Linux and the fact that there are numerous Windows file manager replacements (though i don't know the market well) and in a followup message: The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if it's clickable look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has had it for much longer -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?
-- From: P. J. Alling Subject: Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1? The original Pentax design with the indexing bump on the lens made a lot more sense. Holding the camera with the right hand, cradle the lens with the left with your pointing finger over the bump, lens mount to the front. Touch the lens release with your pointing finger. The lens is properly oriented to mount on the camera. With a little practice you can do this without looking. To remove the lens holding the camera with the right hand, grab the lens with the left hand and press the lens release with the middle or third finger on the right. However the indexing bump is history as of the FA lenses, (except on some of the limited lenses), and the release button has been repositioned so it no longer lines up properly from the *ist cameras forward. I guess no one complained. I did, but no one at Pentax seemed to care. It was nice being able to change lenses without looking at the camera. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - To stoler. Nede på brygga.
David J Brooks wrote: I like it, but agree with Rick on maybe a small sky crop, as opposed to a small sky cap. Well as long as it's my crop... Actually, a cropped version will be coming soon to a screen near you. Thanks, - Toralf Dave On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: Another one I'm not entirely sure about, but I'll show it to you anyway: http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga9 More of that ol'film... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:24 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-07-22 20:11 , Adam Maas wrote: While I can understand Godfrey's choice not to use a replacement as he needs to be familiar offhand with the basic Finder UI for professional reasons, I thoroughly understand why any user who doesn't need to walk others through basic file mangement steps would quickly move up to a Finder replacement. one can be familiar with Finder (to help others) _and_ use other tools Indeed you can, but it's a lot easier to do it with the UI you use natively. Unfortunately OS X seems to be stuck in the paradigm that pervasive search is an adequate replacement for a decent file manager. i don't see any sense of replacement, just two complementary paradigms, and i don't feel Finder is indecent -- QuickLook, for one, is a fantastic feature; i disliked Spotlight for a long time, but being able to quickly find one email out of hundreds of thousands won me over; i still haven't mastered Spotlight's query language, but given how much i use Google it's only natural to expect the same kind of ability from an OS Oh, I can see the value of pervasive search, I simply dislike it as a replacement for file management, which is the way Apple was going for a while. Note that since I don't store things like email on my drive, it's much less useful for me (Search facilities in email are a must, no matter how good your file organization, due to volume. It's less useful when you're dealing with smaller filesets). Note Windows has the same functionality as of Vista, although unlike on the Mac you can turn it off and just use traditional search tools (slower, but they don't eat CPU cycles in the background either. of course Windows Indexing is a much bigger resource pig than Spotlight). Coincidentally it's also the only major OS which has a steady market for replacements file management apps. first of all, the market for Mac OS X file manager replacements seems rather weak to me; Path Finder (which i have used for years) is really the only major contender, but is a niche player; there are many tools to enhance _navigation_ on Mac OS X, but not so many to enhance _management_ secondly, your statement seems contradicted by the proliferation of GUI file managers on Linux and the fact that there are numerous Windows file manager replacements (though i don't know the market well) Linux is a strange beast, if one guy with some programming skill wants a different file manager, you get one. Even then, there are only two File Managers in common use anymore, Nautilus for GNOME and Konqueror for KDE. As to Windows, there isn't a single Explorer replacement with anything approaching the uptake or press of Path Finder. Most of the oens I've run across are used only in the custom UI scene, where they need thm since they're replacing the Windows UI entirely anyways. and in a followup message: The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if it's clickable look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has had it for much longer It's not in any screenshot of the Leopard or Snow Leopard finder I can find. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - To stoler. Nede på brygga. Now c ropped a bit
Here is a slightly cropped version of the one posted yesterday, as suggested by Rick and David: http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=brygga9b - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
Adam Maas wrote: The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if it's clickable look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has had it for much longer It's not in any screenshot of the Leopard or Snow Leopard finder I can find. -Adam It's off by default ... View - Show Path Bar -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if it's clickable look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has had it for much longer It's not in any screenshot of the Leopard or Snow Leopard finder I can find. -Adam It's off by default ... View - Show Path Bar -bmw Ah, useful to note. Thanks for the info. That would go a long way to making Finder nicer to work with. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's
A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and asked me to come out and photograph it. This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/ exif data at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/meta/in/set-72157624563427022 This was shot from the back of the room with the A* 200/2.8 on a monopod using the K-x, ISO 1600 f/4.5 1/40. I brought the color in about as close as I could, but the red lights were very heavy. The guy there with the Canon 5D ended up shooting with flash towards the end of the evening rather than shooting at 1600. I haven't seen his photos yet, but it'll be interesting to see how the K-x compares. If you look at the set, the *LRC* shots were K20, the *IMGP* shots were K-x. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Street Pizza
Thanks, Bruce. Dan On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Wow punchy colors! The scene really jumps out at you. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070239 Comments. criticisms, suggestions and abuse all are welcome. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Street Pizza
No, I learned my lesson when I posted an image of turkey vultures dining on a deer carcass and ruined a few lunches. Dan On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:23 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: For some reason I feared seeing a flattened squirrel... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Last Roll of Kodachrome Processed
An article in the Wichita Times about the last roll of Kodachrome manufactured... http://www.kansas.com/2010/07/14/1403115/last-kodachrome-roll-processed.html -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Toes
Excellent image. I love the composition and the dof. Dan On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:28 AM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/126749278 K7 and M50/4 macro -- Wendy Beard Carp, Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:47 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: ... [lots more typical William Robb horse manure snipped ...] I've already killfiled your boring ass picture posts, I suppose it's time to send you to jco/marnie/matyolaville. I think it would be best to just nail your testicles to a board and hit yourself over the head with them for all the anguish being killfiled by you causes me. Go expire stupidly and enjoy knowing that I appreciate you more in death. You've been killfiled, woo hoo. What a wuss. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Adam Maas wrote: The one simple change Apple could do to make Finder more usable is adding an Address Bar with the current folder path in it, bonus if it's clickable look closer ... it's been there since 2007; of course Path Finder has had it for much longer It's not in any screenshot of the Leopard or Snow Leopard finder I can find. -Adam It's off by default ... View - Show Path Bar -bmw Ah, useful to note. Thanks for the info. That would go a long way to making Finder nicer to work with. It's been there since 10.3. Another thing you're likely unaware of is that Command-clicking on any Finder window's title will reveal a drop-down menu with the entire folder path from that window to the volume root. You can open a window to any folder on that path by picking it from the menu. This has been there since 1991 on all versions of Mac OS. (It also works with most application document windows too, a service provided by the Finder.) I don't use Finder file navigator alternatives because in the 26 years I've been using Apple Mac OS systems I have yet to find one that was as intuitive and sensible to use as the Finder. Most of them are heavily laden with yakity-yak nonsense that the Finder does with far more subtlety. These products have a ridiculously small market penetration, considering the size of the Mac OS installed base. And in doing consulting the past six years as an independent, I've discovered that the vast majority of problems on most people's systems are solved by removing all these poorly designed and implemented add-on things, and teaching them how to do what they want with the Finder. Most people never read the extensive Mac OS X help that is included right in the standard system installation and never understand more than a quarter of the features included with the Finder. Sometimes it seems that I spend my consulting life reading people the Mac OS X help file that is on the system in front of their noses. ;-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?
On Jul 23, 2010, at 10:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn to click. I hold the camera in my RIGHT hand, with the lens facing away. Pretty much the same grip I use to shoot with. Camera is still facing whatever the subject is (which, in my high-school days, was usually a stage with rock musicians on it). Ring finger of the right hand reaches in to press the release button. Left hand twists the lens out of the mount. Left hand drops the lens into whatever bag or pocket I have handy... -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?
I remember when Pentax switched to the K-mount came out in '71 or so (I was selling cameras then...) and thought the design was sensible, but my left hand is clumsy for manipulating lenses in and out of my bag. I always hold the camera in my left hand and handle the lens in my right. So the whole thing was backwards from the get go for me. Holding the lens with the right hand and using the thumb to align the bits worked but wasn't as comfortable as what I was used to on the Nikons. Of course, one plus was that you didn't have to do the Nikon aperture ring jiggle to index the lens maximum aperture like I did with the Photomic FTn finder or Nikkormat FTns, but they solved that with the AI aperture coupling a few years later. Nuthin's perfect. Frankly, I always had the same difficulty with the Leica M lens mount release, tucked tightly against the lens mount in the middle of the body, but with Leica Ms I tended to change lenses much less frequently than with SLR cameras. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:55 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The original Pentax design with the indexing bump on the lens made a lot more sense. Holding the camera with the right hand, cradle the lens with the left with your pointing finger over the bump, lens mount to the front. Touch the lens release with your pointing finger. The lens is properly oriented to mount on the camera. With a little practice you can do this without looking. To remove the lens holding the camera with the right hand, grab the lens with the left hand and press the lens release with the middle or third finger on the right. However the indexing bump is history as of the FA lenses, (except on some of the limited lenses), and the release button has been repositioned so it no longer lines up properly from the *ist cameras forward. I guess no one complained. On 7/23/2010 11:06 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: .. the location of the lens release button on the Pentax was always an awkward thing for me, I'm used to it being on the opposite side of the lens. Of course, it mainly depends on what system you are accustomed to. This said, I believe the ideal lens release button must be comfortable to reach with the left hand, while keeping the lens with your right hand (for right-handed people). So the position of Pentax release button is better if you change the lens while looking at the front of your camera (turned toward you). That was the way I worked for years with cameras such as the MX and the ME Super. With cameras having a big grip like those in fashion today, I tend to change lenses from above, with the lens pointing forward and the camera back resting on my belly. In that case, a lens release button placed like Canon and Olympus is better. Wherever the lens release is, I find no big problem. When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn to click. The position of the Pentax lens release made it hard to figure out which hand to use to press the release ... drove me a little crazy for a long time. It's amusing to think of it this way, but it's one of the reasons I moved to FourThirds bodies ... the lens release button was much more comfortable to me. LOL! -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Jul 23, 2010, at 13:41, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Most people never read the extensive Mac OS X help that is included right in the standard system installation and never understand more than a quarter of the features included with the Finder. Sometimes it seems that I spend my consulting life reading people the Mac OS X help file that is on the system in front of their noses. ;-) Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a search results window open? I would love to be able to use it to find overly-large ISO or ZIP files from my downloads and various other sources... but I can't see the file sizes until I open a NEW finder window in whatever folder contains the file. (I figure since you seem to know quite well how it all works...) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: List Plow Blade
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070246 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are Welcome. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and asked me to come out and photograph it. This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/ Thats a great shot. Dave exif data at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/meta/in/set-72157624563427022 This was shot from the back of the room with the A* 200/2.8 on a monopod using the K-x, ISO 1600 f/4.5 1/40. I brought the color in about as close as I could, but the red lights were very heavy. The guy there with the Canon 5D ended up shooting with flash towards the end of the evening rather than shooting at 1600. I haven't seen his photos yet, but it'll be interesting to see how the K-x compares. If you look at the set, the *LRC* shots were K20, the *IMGP* shots were K-x. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: List Plow Blade
There are a couple of things I like in it, such as the colors. I don't quite see what the intent of the photo is though. Is it just a street scene? Is it supposed to be a juxtaposition of the sign with taxis? On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070246 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are Welcome. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: in the pub
Excellent lighting and clarity Dave On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: http://flic.kr/p/8m1brE pentax k10d fa 50 1.4 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: List Plow Blade
Good question. For me it was the reference to snow plowing on a beautiful summer's day. Also, I was trying to get a different shot of the multicolored hotel in the background, putting it in context of the city around it. I apologize for my odd spelling mistake in the title of the post. G Dan On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: There are a couple of things I like in it, such as the colors. I don't quite see what the intent of the photo is though. Is it just a street scene? Is it supposed to be a juxtaposition of the sign with taxis? On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070246 Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions and Abuse are Welcome. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's
On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:35 PM, David J Brooks wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and asked me to come out and photograph it. This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/ Thats a great shot. Thanks! -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: List Plow Blade
On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Good question. For me it was the reference to snow plowing on a beautiful summer's day. Also, I was trying to get a different shot of the multicolored hotel in the background, putting it in context of the city around it. That was another shot I saw hiding in there. Those were many of the colors I liked. Maybe trying a crop of basically the left half of the frame, so it's of the hotel, rather than the shiny building on the right side of the frame would help bring more attention to the pretty hotel. I apologize for my odd spelling mistake in the title of the post. G In a lot of 18 century documents, it's often hard to tell the effs from the esses. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a search results window open? I would love to be able to use it to find overly-large ISO or ZIP files from my downloads and various other sources... but I can't see the file sizes until I open a NEW finder window in whatever folder contains the file. There are two ways to obtain additional information about files included in a Finder search window: - If you want to find and compare a few files at a time, select those files and use the File-Get Info.. command (command-i). This will open a static information window for each file selected which allows you to compare them easily. - If you want to look at size information one at a time, select one file, hold the Option key down, and use the File-Show Inspector command. The inspector window which opens is dynamic ... as you click through the files in the search window it will change to show the Get Info detail on each file. If you Shift- or Command-Select a group of files, it will display the number of files and the aggregate of their sizes. Of course, you can do a Finder search including a Size parameter (eg: find all .ZIP files + Size NN Megabytes) to find overly-large .ZIP files in the file system too. The search results will then be just those that you might consider purging. If your interest is overall volume space management ... that is, you want to find out what's taking up space in your system in relation to everything else and where it is, trim out the things that don't need to be there, etc, there is a very well designed third party utility application to do that. It's named Daisy Disk and is available from http://www.daisydiskapp.com/ This is an excellent, specialist tool with a very useful way of displaying how files are laid out in the file system, with resolution right down to the individual file. You can do this type of thing with the Finder too, but it's not specifically tuned to this kind of large-scale volume space analysis/management task efficiently. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: List Plow Blade
Thanks, Larry. This is the shot I took of the building itself: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070243 In my original post, I was trying to show the building in its context, how the splashes of color jump out of the busy scene of the street below, but I agree that it did not really center strongly enough on the building itself. Dan On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Good question. For me it was the reference to snow plowing on a beautiful summer's day. Also, I was trying to get a different shot of the multicolored hotel in the background, putting it in context of the city around it. That was another shot I saw hiding in there. Those were many of the colors I liked. Maybe trying a crop of basically the left half of the frame, so it's of the hotel, rather than the shiny building on the right side of the frame would help bring more attention to the pretty hotel. I apologize for my odd spelling mistake in the title of the post. G In a lot of 18 century documents, it's often hard to tell the effs from the esses. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Last Roll of Kodachrome Processed
Nice article, I've been missing Kodachrome for quite some time now, not enough to actually go out and shoot some mind you. Hell, I have a bunch of BW film I haven't bothered to shoot, the only film I've shot in the last few years has been the really inconvenient stuff, 120 that has to be re-rolled onto 620 spools... I guess there are a lot of a**h***s in the world based on the comments though, children shouting look at me, ain't I clever. Too bad we can't shoot them, (and I don't mean with film). On 7/23/2010 2:10 PM, Ed Keeney wrote: An article in the Wichita Times about the last roll of Kodachrome manufactured... http://www.kansas.com/2010/07/14/1403115/last-kodachrome-roll-processed.html -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: It's off by default ... View - Show Path Bar -bmw Ah, useful to note. Thanks for the info. That would go a long way to making Finder nicer to work with. It's been there since 10.3. It's not there on either my 10.3 machine or my 10.4 machine. May be somewhere else but I just checked and I'm not seeing the setting anywhere. It's certainly not at View-Show Path bar and Help on 10.3 pulls up nothing for Path Bar. Another thing you're likely unaware of is that Command-clicking on any Finder window's title will reveal a drop-down menu with the entire folder path from that window to the volume root. You can open a window to any folder on that path by picking it from the menu. This has been there since 1991 on all versions of Mac OS. (It also works with most application document windows too, a service provided by the Finder.) That is new to me. Not as useful as the Path/Address bar since it requires keyboard intervention but still useful, especially since my machines are older and not running 10.5 or newer. I don't use Finder file navigator alternatives because in the 26 years I've been using Apple Mac OS systems I have yet to find one that was as intuitive and sensible to use as the Finder. Most of them are heavily laden with yakity-yak nonsense that the Finder does with far more subtlety. These products have a ridiculously small market penetration, considering the size of the Mac OS installed base. And in doing consulting the past six years as an independent, I've discovered that the vast majority of problems on most people's systems are solved by removing all these poorly designed and implemented add-on things, and teaching them how to do what they want with the Finder. Of course Finder isn't immune to these problems either, as the show-stopping Move bug in 10.5 showed. And frankly, regardless of the quality of the replacements, they wouldn't be there if you could do what they do in Finder easily. And yes, they've added features to the point of getting crufty. So has OS X and Windows (Expose and its Windows clone?). We hit the point where adding features over improving basic usability is a given in each OS update. OS X hit that at 10.5, arguably at 10.4, Windows did with Vista (Win7 is a downgrade in usability over Vista, regardless of the backend changes). Also Finder as 'intuitive and sensible to use'? If you continuously have to teach people to use it, it ain't. Apple's damned good on usability, but Finder's just about the least intuitive aspect of the main OS X UI. Especially if you've used a modern 2-pane or 3-pane file manager before. Columns View in particular is a real WTF moment the first time you see it, it's also painful if you're used to a filesystem tree view. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: If your interest is overall volume space management ... that is, you want to find out what's taking up space in your system in relation to everything else and where it is, trim out the things that don't need to be there, etc, there is a very well designed third party utility application to do that. It's named Daisy Disk and is available from http://www.daisydiskapp.com/ This is an excellent, specialist tool with a very useful way of displaying how files are laid out in the file system, with resolution right down to the individual file. You can do this type of thing with the Finder too, but it's not specifically tuned to this kind of large-scale volume space analysis/management task efficiently. Godfrey, how does this compare to Disk Inventory X ? I've been use that to spelunk the fs. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a search results window open? I would love to be able to use it to find overly-large ISO or ZIP files from my downloads and various other sources... but I can't see the file sizes until I open a NEW finder window in whatever folder contains the file. There are two ways to obtain additional information about files included in a Finder search window: - If you want to find and compare a few files at a time, select those files and use the File-Get Info.. command (command-i). This will open a static information window for each file selected which allows you to compare them easily. - If you want to look at size information one at a time, select one file, hold the Option key down, and use the File-Show Inspector command. The inspector window which opens is dynamic ... as you click through the files in the search window it will change to show the Get Info detail on each file. If you Shift- or Command-Select a group of files, it will display the number of files and the aggregate of their sizes. Or in Windows Explorer, set the view in the Search Window to Details, click on the column header bar, select Size (if it isn't already), click the size column to sort by file size. Displays file sizes for all found files, no need to select them to see it. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a search results window open? I would love to be able to use it to find overly-large ISO or ZIP files from my downloads and various other sources... but I can't see the file sizes until I open a NEW finder window in whatever folder contains the file. There are two ways to obtain additional information about files included in a Finder search window: - If you want to find and compare a few files at a time, select those files and use the File-Get Info.. command (command-i). This will open a static information window for each file selected which allows you to compare them easily. - If you want to look at size information one at a time, select one file, hold the Option key down, and use the File-Show Inspector command. The inspector window which opens is dynamic ... as you click through the files in the search window it will change to show the Get Info detail on each file. If you Shift- or Command-Select a group of files, it will display the number of files and the aggregate of their sizes. Or in Windows Explorer, set the view in the Search Window to Details, click on the column header bar, select Size (if it isn't already), click the size column to sort by file size. Displays file sizes for all found files, no need to select them to see it. -Adam opps, should be right-click the colour header bar, not click on it. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: It's been there since 10.3. It's not there on either my 10.3 machine or my 10.4 machine. May be somewhere else but I just checked and I'm not seeing the setting anywhere. It's certainly not at View-Show Path bar and Help on 10.3 pulls up nothing for Path Bar. My mistake. I thought you meant the path tool drop down: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/Finder_path_tool-Tiger.jpg The View-Show Path Bar was added in Leopard. I never use it, more yakity-yak that I don't need to see all the time. ;-) Also Finder as 'intuitive and sensible to use'? If you continuously have to teach people to use it, it ain't. Continuously is a bit of an overstatement, Adam, perhaps a biased misinterpretation to support your opinion. Most of my consulting has nothing to do with the Finder or users' expertise in using it properly. And given there are 60-70 million Apple systems out there and the sum total of users using add-on Finder replacements is something significantly less than 1% of that total, I'd say the Finder does ok. But as I said way upthread, before that mindless homophobic imbecile William Robb interjected, this isn't a useful discussion for a Pentax camera equipment discussion forum. And it might be a bit off-putting for Eric Weir, who was just trying to figure out what had happened to a file on his computer. Let's be sensible and agree to disagree. I will not change my opinions and you won't change yours ... and it makes not one wit of difference to anything in the universe. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Jul 23, 2010, at 15:04, Adam Maas wrote: Or in Windows Explorer, set the view in the Search Window to Details, click on the column header bar, select Size (if it isn't already), click the size column to sort by file size. Displays file sizes for all found files, no need to select them to see it. ...which is the one tiny little thing I miss with Finder vs. Windows. Not enough to make me go back, but yeah... I can't fathom why this is not an option to just display in the list of found files in OSX. Its omission seems to be clearly the result of a conscious decision on someone's part to leave it out. Or there is some black magic going on somewhere which makes it impossible to add??? So I use Disk Inventory X to give me the graphical display of files on the drive and the space they occupy. Much like the freeware SpaceMonger.EXE for Windows. Almost identical, actually. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
Bruce, They do much the same thing. Disk Inventory X is freeware and a little less innovative in its UI approach, and operates more slowly. I don't think it's been updated since Mac OS X v10.3. Daisy Disk is commercial for $20, has a more useful and informative UI, well supported by its makers, and is up to date for Snow Leopard. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: If your interest is overall volume space management ... that is, you want to find out what's taking up space in your system in relation to everything else and where it is, trim out the things that don't need to be there, etc, there is a very well designed third party utility application to do that. It's named Daisy Disk and is available from http://www.daisydiskapp.com/ This is an excellent, specialist tool with a very useful way of displaying how files are laid out in the file system, with resolution right down to the individual file. You can do this type of thing with the Finder too, but it's not specifically tuned to this kind of large-scale volume space analysis/management task efficiently. Godfrey, how does this compare to Disk Inventory X ? I've been use that to spelunk the fs. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: opps, should be right-click the colour header bar, not click on it. LOL ... so much for clear and intuitive. ;-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: opps, should be right-click the colour header bar, not click on it. LOL ... so much for clear and intuitive. ;-) -- Godfrey Of course the problme here is my poor description, not the UI. You always right-click in Explorer to get contextual menus which this is and the column headers are always visible so you can select which options you want visible in Details view even when not in Details view. The fact I adopted some Brooksian spelling here too (Colour for Column) doesn't help. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: ...which is the one tiny little thing I miss with Finder vs. Windows. Not enough to make me go back, but yeah... I can't fathom why this is not an option to just display in the list of found files in OSX. Its omission seems to be clearly the result of a conscious decision on someone's part to leave it out. Or there is some black magic going on somewhere which makes it impossible to add??? I agree that it would be useful. However, the search might find things that require an arbitrary amount of processing to determine a size (eg: a folder full of folders full of folders full of folders of files ... tons of recursive directory search processing, etc ... you get the idea) so I think they are reluctant to put in a Size column in the display so as not to degrade responsiveness. It's kind of like the lack of filtering by focal length in Lightroom. Focal length is encoded in the EXIF data a number of different ways, manufacturer to manufacturer, and up to Lightroom v2.7 Adobe didn't want to provide the filter and sort by focal length because of the amount of processing it could entail. (I haven't checked LR3 to see whether it's in there yet.) I've submitted several feature request for it. ;-) So I use Disk Inventory X to give me the graphical display of files on the drive and the space they occupy. Much like the freeware SpaceMonger.EXE for Windows. Almost identical, actually. As mentioned to Bruce Walker, it's the equivalent of the app I recommended and use, Daisy Disk. Not as nicely finished UI-wise, but it works fine. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Jul 23, 2010, at 16:05, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I agree that it would be useful. However, the search might find things that require an arbitrary amount of processing to determine a size (eg: a folder full of folders full of folders full of folders of files ... tons of recursive directory search processing, etc ... you get the idea) so I think they are reluctant to put in a Size column in the display so as not to degrade responsiveness. File sizes for files, nothing for folders... it wouldn't be hard I would think. But nevermind... It's kind of like the lack of filtering by focal length in Lightroom. Focal length is encoded in the EXIF data a number of different ways, manufacturer to manufacturer, and up to Lightroom v2.7 Adobe didn't want to provide the filter and sort by focal length because of the amount of processing it could entail. (I haven't checked LR3 to see whether it's in there yet.) I've submitted several feature request for it. ;-) They do now! It's nice. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Last Roll of Kodachrome Processed
Ed Keeney wrote: An article in the Wichita Times about the last roll of Kodachrome manufactured... http://www.kansas.com/2010/07/14/1403115/last-kodachrome-roll-processed.html Ed - really enjoyed that _ thanks - I loved PKR, too Well enjoyed is possibly the wrong word - I'll lookforward to seeing that National Geo special ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Anyone got opinions on the Olympus Pen E-PL1?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 01:46:22PM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jul 23, 2010, at 10:06, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: When changing lenses, I tend to hold the body with my left hand and depress the lens release button, while handling the lens with my right hand. Grab body, grab lens, press with index finger, turn with right hand and drop lens into slot in bag, grab next lens, insert and turn to click. I hold the camera in my RIGHT hand, with the lens facing away. Pretty much the same grip I use to shoot with. Camera is still facing whatever the subject is (which, in my high-school days, was usually a stage with rock musicians on it). Ring finger of the right hand reaches in to press the release button. Left hand twists the lens out of the mount. Left hand drops the lens into whatever bag or pocket I have handy... -Charles That's pretty much how I do it, too. It works pretty well if I'm switching big, heavy lenses around; the camera is supported by the neck strap, and I've got my left hand holding the lens. Of course I'm left-handed, so what is convenient for me might not be quite as convenient for the rest of the world. Guess how much I care - I have to suffer enough living in a right- handed world; it's good karma if some things work better for me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's
Larry Colen wrote: A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and asked me to come out and photograph it. This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/ exif data at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/meta/in/set-72157624563427022 This was shot from the back of the room with the A* 200/2.8 on a monopod using the K-x, ISO 1600 f/4.5 1/40. I brought the color in about as close as I could, but the red lights were very heavy. The guy there with the Canon 5D ended up shooting with flash towards the end of the evening rather than shooting at 1600. I haven't seen his photos yet, but it'll be interesting to see how the K-x compares. If you look at the set, the *LRC* shots were K20, the *IMGP* shots were K-x. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I cooliris'd the whole set. Darn fine. and GR to photographers who use flash at a gig. Not cool -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On 2010-07-23 14:02 , Bruce Walker wrote: Godfrey, how does this compare to Disk Inventory X ? I've been use that to spelunk the fs. i'm not Godfrey, but i've used several such tools including Disk Inventory X, Filelight (looks a lot like DaisyDisk), WhatSize and OmniDiskSweeper; while the graphical view of the former two can be illuminating i prefer the column view of the latter two for productivity in managing disk space; i slightly prefer WhatSize, but OmniDiskSweeper is free http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnidisksweeper/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On 2010-07-23 14:27 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: And it might be a bit off-putting for Eric Weir, who was just trying to figure out what had happened to a file on his computer. except it was Eric who was using Path Finder, so presumably he (together with me constituting the less than 1%, i guess) is more open than most to considering the ins and outs of built-in and add-on tools for Mac OS X -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On 2010-07-23 13:02 , Charles Robinson wrote: Is there a way to make Finder show you the SIZE of a file when you have a search results window open? Finder's search results windows frustrate me a lot ... Path Finder can search in various ways including with Spotlight, and can show file sizes and a lot more that Finder can't in the result window, and you can sort any of those columns; it doesn't slow things down -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:20 PM, steve harley wrote: consider turning off Path Finder's Smart Sorting (in the View menu) -- i gave up on it long ago, for perhaps the same reason that had you missing something that was in plain sight I'll check into it, Steve. Only discovered, after the responses to my initial post on this thread, how items are sorted in Path Finder, i.e., at least on my setup, applications, packages, folders, then files. I do like having folders near the top, though, rather than distributed alphabetically with files, as they are in Finder. It makes it navigating through the directory a little easier. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A lesson
On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:19 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: One way is to pick a spot on the court, prefocus, and follow the action until it comes to that spot. If you focus on the rim, you can get some good rebounding and layup shots. If you want to focus moving action, follow one player and focus continuously as he moves, then trip the shutter when you think you have your shot. Thank's, Paul. Toward the end of the session last night I started experimenting with that. Encouraged to find that my intuitions lead me -- or should I say led me; let's not generalize too rashly here, Eric -- to the right technique. Of course, the most important step in learning to focus action is practice, practice and more practice. With that kind of shooting, for sure. I was encouraged to learn from one of the articles on Godfrey's site that with practice, manual focusing can become second nature and very precise. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A lesson
On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:44 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Like Paul's suggestion, i found the best thing to do is find a good fence, pre focus and shoot when i had what i wanted. I pretty much still do that today, even with AF lenses. Practice practice Thanks, David. Very encouraging. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:16 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: On 2010-07-23 14:27 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: And it might be a bit off-putting for Eric Weir, who was just trying to figure out what had happened to a file on his computer. except it was Eric who was using Path Finder, so presumably he (together with me constituting the less than 1%, i guess) is more open than most to considering the ins and outs of built-in and add-on tools for Mac OS X It would have been good if he'd mentioned that when he asked the question. It would have made the answer almost instantaneous. This is what happens when you are providing support and people are using non-standard bits in place of the normal ways of doing things: it slows down the ability to help. But as they say, de gustibus non disputandem. I get what I need done efficiently and without any problems, and I'm happy with how my system works. May it be the same for you. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A lesson
On Jul 23, 2010, at 12:00 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: The Ds has continuous Auto Focus as a menu item, but it still can't usefully accomplish it. And I want to do manual -- focusing and exposure -- as much as possible. Perhaps after I've got good at that, I'll be more open to auto. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On 2010-07-23 17:23 , Eric Weir wrote: Only discovered, after the responses to my initial post on this thread, how items are sorted in Path Finder, i.e., at least on my setup, applications, packages, folders, then files. I do like having folders near the top, though, rather than distributed alphabetically with files, as they are in Finder. It makes it navigating through the directory a little easier. in case i wasn't clear, that is a setting Smart Sorting than you can change; while i liked the idea some years ago when i first tried it, i turned it off after a while; in certain folders with many items where i want certain subfolders to be always handy, i add an underscore to the subfolder names to sort them to the top -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On 2010-07-23 12:41 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't use Finder file navigator alternatives because in the 26 years I've been using Apple Mac OS systems I have yet to find one that was as intuitive and sensible to use as the Finder. Most of them are heavily laden with yakity-yak nonsense that the Finder does with far more subtlety. Path Finder is burdened with some kid stuff but thankfully most of it is off by default; i use it for a few not so kiddy things: - the NeXT-like shelf - tabbed windows - recent documents in sidebar - the more detailed and Unixy file info display - built in shell (though i keep coming back to iTerm) - the ability to apply labels* - the back button* - the sorting in column view* my favorite Path Finder Feature ever, though it was removed in newer versions, is outline-style disclosure triangles within column view -- this was a big win for file management, but tabs and the dual browser feature almost make up for it all of the above are features i find very sensible and would like to see in Finder; there is hope based on the ones Finder has already adopted(*) i use one Path Finder window with multiple tabs alongside a few more transient Finder windows; often i use the Finder contextual menu to open the same folder in Path Finder These products have a ridiculously small market penetration, considering the size of the Mac OS installed base. doesn't mean they are bad, just means a lot of people use their Macs just for basic stuff; Pentax has a small market penetration too ... And in doing consulting the past six years as an independent, I've discovered that the vast majority of problems on most people's systems are solved by removing all these poorly designed and implemented add-on things, and teaching them how to do what they want with the Finder. naive people can get in trouble when seduced by the promises of things they don't have, but the answer i think is prudence, not abstinence; that policy has served me well, via a handful of carefully chosen tools and techniques; i don't teach them to newbies though -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso Michelle Chappell at Don Quixote's
On Jul 23, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Larry Colen wrote: A friend had a gig at a venue a mile down the street from my house, and asked me to come out and photograph it. This is the one that she snagged for her current facebook profile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/in/set-72157624563427022/ exif data at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4820111591/meta/in/set-72157624563427022 This was shot from the back of the room with the A* 200/2.8 on a monopod using the K-x, ISO 1600 f/4.5 1/40. I brought the color in about as close as I could, but the red lights were very heavy. The guy there with the Canon 5D ended up shooting with flash towards the end of the evening rather than shooting at 1600. I haven't seen his photos yet, but it'll be interesting to see how the K-x compares. If you look at the set, the *LRC* shots were K20, the *IMGP* shots were K-x. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est I cooliris'd the whole set. Darn fine. Thanks a lot. I've not heard of cooliris, so I'm checking it out now. and GR to photographers who use flash at a gig. Not cool Apparently Roni asked Michelle, and Michelle doesn't mind the flash. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Last Roll of Kodachrome Processed
Does Paul Simon know about this? Dan On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Ed Keeney wrote: An article in the Wichita Times about the last roll of Kodachrome manufactured... http://www.kansas.com/2010/07/14/1403115/last-kodachrome-roll-processed.html Ed - really enjoyed that _ thanks - I loved PKR, too Well enjoyed is possibly the wrong word - I'll lookforward to seeing that National Geo special ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PZ1p
what would the value of a PZ1p be? going through My Father in Law's stuff and there is family fighting. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Cool Down
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Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Jul 23, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It would have been good if he'd mentioned that when he asked the question. It would have made the answer almost instantaneous. This is what happens when you are providing support and people are using non-standard bits in place of the normal ways of doing things: it slows down the ability to help. You've opened my eyes to possibilities with Finder I didn't know about, that if I'd known about I might not have gone looking for a replacement. Also my mind to the possibility that it's far more versatile than I realized. That said, I find it interesting that it's been extremely easy for me to discover and use Path Finder's features, whereas with Finder they remained hidden. I don't know if there's a manual for Path Finder, if there is I never read it. Have hardly ever even used help. And I think I posted to its support forum only once. I agree Path Finder may be cluttered up with features that few use. With a little instruction I might even come to prefer Finder's more zen-like approach compared to Path Finder's clutter. But I would need some instruction to get me started. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESOS - Summer Visitor
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Re: PZ1p
I payed $200CDN for one about a month ago. -Adam On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: what would the value of a PZ1p be? going through My Father in Law's stuff and there is family fighting. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PZ1p
keh.com online quote is $40 for a pz1p in excellent condition. George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: what would the value of a PZ1p be? going through My Father in Law's stuff and there is family fighting. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PZ1p
That's what they're paying, which is below market value. They sell them for $110-120 in EX condition. -Adam On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:58 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: keh.com online quote is $40 for a pz1p in excellent condition. George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: what would the value of a PZ1p be? going through My Father in Law's stuff and there is family fighting. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 5:11 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: Path Finder is burdened with some kid stuff but thankfully most of it is off by default; i use it for a few not so kiddy things: - the NeXT-like shelf - tabbed windows - recent documents in sidebar - the more detailed and Unixy file info display - built in shell (though i keep coming back to iTerm) - the ability to apply labels* - the back button* - the sorting in column view* my favorite Path Finder Feature ever, though it was removed in newer versions, is outline-style disclosure triangles within column view -- this was a big win for file management, but tabs and the dual browser feature almost make up for it I find all of these things to be visual clutter. None of them are pose any opportunity to get my work done more efficiently or make it more convenient to do so. Sorry, I'm totally uninterested in Path Finder. I'm glad you find it useful. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PZ1p
So the bottom line, quick sale to a dealer will net you about $40-50. If you take the time to sell it yourself, you'll get around $100-125. George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: That's what they're paying, which is below market value. They sell them for $110-120 in EX condition. -Adam On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:58 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: keh.com online quote is $40 for a pz1p in excellent condition. George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: what would the value of a PZ1p be? going through My Father in Law's stuff and there is family fighting. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where is Lightroom hiding?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: You've opened my eyes to possibilities with Finder I didn't know about, that if I'd known about I might not have gone looking for a replacement. Also my mind to the possibility that it's far more versatile than I realized. That said, I find it interesting that it's been extremely easy for me to discover and use Path Finder's features, whereas with Finder they remained hidden. I don't know if there's a manual for Path Finder, if there is I never read it. Have hardly ever even used help. And I think I posted to its support forum only once. I agree Path Finder may be cluttered up with features that few use. With a little instruction I might even come to prefer Finder's more zen-like approach compared to Path Finder's clutter. But I would need some instruction to get me started. I'm glad to help. The hallmark of the Finder, like most Apple software, is that it is subtle. Most Apple software is subtle in that most people can easily figure out the basics and get most of what they need done without looking at or reading a manual. And most Apple software is much deeper than that surface appearance and takes a some study to unlock and understand all the things that it can do. The reason for this design is to decrease visual noise and make the operating system basics easy to remember for people who prefer to concentrate on their work rather than on operating the computer ... a sparse minimalism with broad functionality. It's the Apple corporate aesthetic. I happen to like it. That's why I the Apple Macintosh in 1984, and why I continue to use Mac OS X systems now. People write books like Mac OS X: The Missing Manual to expose verbosely what the system can do for people who can't discover it on their own. Nothing wrong with that. Others write more explicitly verbose applications to do things that the provided system already does, like Path Finder. But most of what's in books like The Missing Manual is already documented in the Mac OS X Help system ... just like most of what's in Path Finder is already in the Finder and the other tools built into the system ... but most people never look into the help system for help. Just like few ever read the manuals that come with their cameras... to return this back to a photographic footing. ;-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOS - Summer Visitor
Paul, Excellent captures. Isn't the critter more yellow in color? The strong light seems to wash it out. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:47 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317015size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317016size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOS - Summer Visitor
He's a swallowtail, and he was quite yellow a few days ago. He's old and fading like me:-). Paul On Jul 23, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Paul, Excellent captures. Isn't the critter more yellow in color? The strong light seems to wash it out. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:47 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317015size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317016size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PZ1p
The last two answers are in the price range that I have seen them go for most often. ($125-150 for body only). If it has a 50mm AF lens on it, that is worth more than the body. Darren Addy Kearney, NE On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:16 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: So the bottom line, quick sale to a dealer will net you about $40-50. If you take the time to sell it yourself, you'll get around $100-125. George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: That's what they're paying, which is below market value. They sell them for $110-120 in EX condition. -Adam On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:58 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: keh.com online quote is $40 for a pz1p in excellent condition. George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: what would the value of a PZ1p be? going through My Father in Law's stuff and there is family fighting. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure, except Death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT was PESO: Monaco II
On 21/07/2010, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I find dropbox to be pretty easy to use and not particularly intrusive,\ either their PC based interface, or through the web, (though uploading multiple files through the web interface seems to be hit or miss, mostly miss these days). I've set it up on several systems now, I'm pretty impressed, combined with the free logmein it provides a pretty comprehensive free remote access solution too, thanks for the tip. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PZ1p
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:07:53 -0500 CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: The last two answers are in the price range that I have seen them go for most often. ($125-150 for body only). thanks all. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOS - Summer Visitor
Nice work, Paul. I do prefer the open wings and crop on the first. Jack --- On Fri, 7/23/10, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESOS - Summer Visitor To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 5:47 PM http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317015size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317016size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Cool Down
Very cool, Paul. ;) Really like the power you caught the water. Jack --- On Fri, 7/23/10, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - Cool Down To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 5:43 PM http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317012 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOS - Summer Visitor
Thanks Jack. This was an easy one. I think he was tired. 90 degree temps at the end of the day may have slowed him down as well. Paul On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Nice work, Paul. I do prefer the open wings and crop on the first. Jack --- On Fri, 7/23/10, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESOS - Summer Visitor To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 5:47 PM http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317015size=lg http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11317016size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.