Re: LR 3.0 peculiarity

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

Thank you for a very detailed response, Godfrey. My reply is interspersed...


1- Which metadata is correct depends upon your workflow and policy.
My workflow is such that the correct metadata is always what is in
the Lightroom catalog, not what is contained in the original image
file, because Lightroom is the only way I *add* metadata to my files.
Other applications like Photoshop can append additional metadata to
original image files a) if you edit ORIGINAL files with them and b) if
you've set the options to do so ... but I turn off all those options
and don't edit original image files with anything but Lightroom.


Since I don't edit my images anywhere else than in LR and since I also 
don't have more than one LR version installed on my computer at any 
time, it is yet unclear to me why LR decided that my MD was incorrect in 
a way...



2- LR 3.0 crashing ... Are you running in 64-bit or 32-bit? on Windows
or Mac OS X? How much RAM is installed on your system? How large is
your catalog? How much free disk space is there on the volume where
you have the catalog file? and the original image files?


Here is the layout...

Hardware:

1. Dual core CPU (Intel 8400, if I am not mistaken)
2. 8GB RAM
3. 320 GB system disk
4. 1 TB of Linux storage (RAID-1) connected directly through a separate 
NIC at 1Gbit.


Software:

1. Windows XP 64 bit configured so as to have no swap file whatsoever.
2. LR 3.0

Parameters:

1. Order of 270 GB free on system disk
2. Catalog is about 520 MB in size (approx 33,000 image files managed)
3. About 300 GB free on storage.

So it seems from what you say that it has no reasons to run unstable...


3- And, if you are having crashing problems with LR 3.0, why haven't
you installed and started working with LR 3.2 RC?


I feel hesitant to install any beta/release candidate software no matter 
how loud they say it is good. Unless absolutely forced to do so, I'd 
rather stay with LR 3.0 until LR 3.2 becomes a proper release, and not 
just release candidate.



For still photography work, USB2 and FW400 are proving to be good
enough, and the improved USB2 performance makes the system much more
flexible as to how to organize the hardware connections. The improved
IO performance makes it almost a wash, in practical terms, as to
whether I site the Lightroom catalog on the same volume as the
original image files vs the startup drive.)


In my case, LR catalog is on internal HDD where Windows is installed and 
photos are on external storage.


I am open to suggestions, as usual.

Boris

P.S. All software is properly bought and licensed.

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Re: OT: You will never look at a duck the same way

2010-08-26 Thread eckinator
ROFLMAO... and to think I believed all those years that those were...
SILLY ME!!!
Thanks for sharing
Ecke

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-26 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


 my knob of butter.


Growing old is really the worst thing, isn't it?

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Re: Good afternoon

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Welcome back, Collin. It is pretty much the same over here... 'Cause I 
am sure you know the drill ;-).


Boris

On 8/26/2010 2:53 AM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:


I use Pentax.
Right now I have a KM and a K-X.
Lenses include the SMC 55/1.8, FA50/1.4, A35/2.

A couple of extra ones are for sale to finance the K-X.
http://columbus.craigslist.org/pho/1919251988.html

I still shoot film, but pretty much 4x5.  I have an old Speed Graphic.

And I've been here before, though it has been several years.
What's the big news, folks?

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Re: Disablement, followed by Super Enablement

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/25/2010 12:01 AM, John Celio wrote:

It won't last long, though: On thursday I start my new job at a
non-profit in Berkeley.  Finally, full time work!


Congratulations!

Boris

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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/25/2010 3:56 PM, eckinator wrote:

Anyone else here suffer from Knife Buying Addiction as well? And do
you feel some of the below?


I am sorry, I don't like knives... I might keep that way until my kids 
are grown up...


Boris

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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Venus and Mars

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman
I hate you, Tom. Macca came to Tel Aviv, but I did not go to his 
concert. Rightly so 'cause he practically put the most of the city to 
stand still... Other than that, I'd love to hear him live... I went to 
ELO concert though - that was excellent too...


Boris

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Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Whether you should win a lottery or not, but anyway, buy a Leica :-)... 
That's a peculiar form of compliment, quoth me to avoid any 
possibility of a doubt...


Boris

On 8/24/2010 10:37 PM, Miserere wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I'm back from my UK trip, and I'm happy to report that I both took
photos, and was not stopped by the police for doing so. I'll have some
from London in a few days, but for now here's a small gallery from a
jet-lagged walk around Southampton:

http://enticingthelight.com/2010/08/17/a-photowalk-with-the-samsung-nx10-and-30mm-f2/

You'll excuse me for having taken them with the Sammy NX10 + 30mm f/2
-- until Pentax delivers us to EVIL, it's all I've got.

CC welcome, of course.

Cheers,


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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread eckinator
That is why I keep mine in lie-down knife racks on the kitchen hood.
gotta cover them up though to keep the cooking vapors out that
inevitably get missed by the extractor. Those things are always the
worst possible compromise between noise and efficiency. They usually
look as good and hum as loud as a jet on take-off but any vacuum
cleaner bolted to the wall would do a better job...
Cheers
Ecke

2010/8/26 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 I am sorry, I don't like knives... I might keep that way until my kids are
 grown up...

 Boris

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Re: PESO: Only 39

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

Well, I'll be this way (Only 39) almost in no time...

On 8/24/2010 9:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11488957

Comments, Suggestions, Criticisms and Abuse are all Welcome.

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Re: peso - piano

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

I'll post an unwelcome comment then, ok, Sasha? ;-)

It leans to the right and the totally black and totally white zones are 
too many in the frame. It is a good photo, but only just...


Boris

On 8/23/2010 8:37 AM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4917817657/#/photos/sobol/4917817657/lightbox/

Angry comments are always welcome.

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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 August 2010 17:57, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 8/25/2010 3:56 PM, eckinator wrote:

 Anyone else here suffer from Knife Buying Addiction as well? And do
 you feel some of the below?

 I am sorry, I don't like knives... I might keep that way until my kids are
 grown up...

I supposed mashed or minced is ok but you'd get pretty sick of it over
18 years or so?

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Re: Good afternoon

2010-08-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/8/10, coll...@brendemuehl.net, discombobulated, unleashed:

And I've been here before, though it has been several years.
What's the big news, folks?

Yo Collin. Still no full-frame Pentax ;-)

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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/8/10, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

The first 47 pics are new this year.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

That's a first rate collection. You've really got a total hold on
movement in the frame. Standouts from the first couple a hundred! :

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11498393

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7866433

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7707017

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7676095

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6978592

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2438913

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966933

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963291

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3708948



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Re: Messenger-style shoulder bags

2010-08-26 Thread Cotty
On 25/8/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

I too have hundreds of camera bags and now I'm looking for suggestions for a
bag for my camera bags

Got one of those. Called a house.

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Re: Messenger-style shoulder bags

2010-08-26 Thread eckinator
2010/8/26 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
 On 25/8/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

I too have hundreds of camera bags and now I'm looking for suggestions for a
bag for my camera bags

 Got one of those. Called a house.

Yes but I think Bob may want to keep the rest of his family separate
from his bags.

Seriously, there is a purse rental place for the ladies on the web
making good money - what about us male bag whores? Would this work?
Cheers
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OT More local photogs rights controversy

2010-08-26 Thread Rob Studdert
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm

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Odd K-x behaviour

2010-08-26 Thread mike wilson
yesterday, I brought up an image on the screen and handed the camera to 
someone else to view.  From their puzzled look, something was wrong. 
Looking again at the screen, it was covered in vertical lines, of 
varying thickness, of pastel (at least, no vivid) colours, interspersed 
with dashed black lines one or two pixels thick.


More worryingly, none of the buttons elicited a response, even the 
on/off switch.


Just as I was beginning to seriously panic, the off switch worked (not 
immediately - it was left in the off position and finally worked after 
about three seconds) and everything returned to normal.


No recurrence.  So far.

I feel the on/off switch on this particular specimen is likely to give 
trouble in the future, due to the feel of it compared to all the others 
I have fondled.  Apart from that, I can think of no reason for what 
occured.  Anyone else have an idea?


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Re: Good afternoon

2010-08-26 Thread Tanya Love
I thought my ears were burning! Lol.

I am in Perth right now with 2-3 commercial shoots per day until next Wednesday 
- hence my quietness on the list, but don't think I'm not watching out for 
cheeky buggers like you Mr Halpin! 

Welcome back Colin!

Tan.x

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 Hey Collin - long time.
 
 News:
 1. Tanya divorced, got some tattoos and other enhancements, remarried, and 
 has a bunch of kids. She is also doing well as a photographer of kids 
 clothing.
 2. Mark Roberts edited two excellent books, published in 2009 and 2010 
 through Blurb, based on PDMLers' photos from 2008 and 2009 respectively. Many 
 of the photos from the 2010 were on exhibit in Chicago for 6-8 weeks this 
 spring and a bunch of us were there for the Grand Opening.
 3. The rumors are spreading about the forthcoming replacement for the K-7 (to 
 be known as the K-5?). List members are grousing about the rumored specs and 
 discussing what Pentax should have done instead. Oh wait, that is not new.
 
 stan
 
 On Aug 25, 2010, at 6:53 PM, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
 
 
 I use Pentax.
 Right now I have a KM and a K-X.
 Lenses include the SMC 55/1.8, FA50/1.4, A35/2.
 
 A couple of extra ones are for sale to finance the K-X.
 http://columbus.craigslist.org/pho/1919251988.html
 
 I still shoot film, but pretty much 4x5.  I have an old Speed Graphic.
 
 And I've been here before, though it has been several years.
 What's the big news, folks?
 
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Re: PESO - Kids in a fountain

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

Brilliant!

On 8/23/2010 1:21 AM, David Parsons wrote:

I went on a photowalk on Friday with a local group through Boston.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4914522823/

There's more on my stream, but this is one of the best IMO.




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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks Cotty.

On Aug 26, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Cotty wrote:

 On 25/8/10, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 The first 47 pics are new this year.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960
 
 That's a first rate collection. You've really got a total hold on
 movement in the frame. Standouts from the first couple a hundred! :
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11498393
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7866433
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7707017
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7676095
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6978592
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2438913
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6966933
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963291
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3708948
 
 
 
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Re: PESO - At the Water

2010-08-26 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:


 that has a nice Erwittian feel, Frank.

Now ~that's~ a compliment!

 I think he's funny, too

Thanks for the comment.  And thanks to everyone else who commented.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It (colour version)

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

Color version for me too...

On 8/20/2010 2:04 PM, frank theriault wrote:

A few of you wondered how this would look in colour.  I think I rather
prefer it (all those reds!).  Also, a slightly different crop:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/long-and-short-of-it-colour-version.html

Here's the bw for comparison:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/long-and-short-of-it.html

Hope you enjoy!  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO: Bob W

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/21/2010 5:34 AM, Alastair Robertson wrote:

a quick snap of Bob when we met up recently in Florac - we spent a
couple of really nice days with Bob - it was a pleasure and hope we
can repeat the idea next time we are in Europe.


Did he burst in laughter immediately thereafter?

Boris

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Re: PESO - Iron Wall

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/20/2010 9:22 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Inside the Center Harbor church, the walls are covered in a raised
fleur-de-lis pattern.  I thought it would be tin, but it felt much
rougher and denser.  Cast iron, the woman showing me around said.
It's great at Christmas--we just put the decorations up with
magnets.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450527

I wonder if it also keeps cell phones from ringing during
services...

Rick


Rick, I am sorry, but without your narrative I couldn't possibly guess 
that the wall was made of cast iron... So, although interesting, this 
photo did not work for me...


Boris

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Re: Micological GESO

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/19/2010 7:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

I've just updated my gallery of fungus photography!
http://www.robertstech.com/fungus.htm


In Mr Spock of Vulcan voice: Fascinating...

Boris


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Re: PESO - Vaporware

2010-08-26 Thread Dario Bonazza

paul stenquist wrote:



Agreed. A fun pic, well rendered.
Paul


Thanks Paul
... and a fun day it was!

Dario

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Re: PESO - City Rails

2010-08-26 Thread Dario Bonazza

David J Brooks wrote:


Love the pattern and the conversion


Thanks Dave. This is one of the not so many cases of mine where a processed 
picture was seen at the very time of shooting.


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Re: Odd K-x behaviour

2010-08-26 Thread eckinator
2010/8/26 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
 yesterday, I brought up an image on the screen and handed the camera to
 someone else to view.  From their puzzled look, something was wrong. Looking
 again at the screen, it was covered in vertical lines, of varying thickness,
 of pastel (at least, no vivid) colours, interspersed with dashed black lines
 one or two pixels thick.

 More worryingly, none of the buttons elicited a response, even the on/off
 switch.

 Just as I was beginning to seriously panic, the off switch worked (not
 immediately - it was left in the off position and finally worked after about
 three seconds) and everything returned to normal.

 No recurrence.  So far.

 I feel the on/off switch on this particular specimen is likely to give
 trouble in the future, due to the feel of it compared to all the others I
 have fondled.  Apart from that, I can think of no reason for what occured.
  Anyone else have an idea?

Sounds like a circuitry problem. I had that garbled image twice in a
day on my pda. About 10 hours of use later it croaked. System board
replacement cost was prohibitve. OTOH my Optio WP has done that
numerous times w/o subsequent kroaquage so far so it may or may not be
terminal but I can confirm that my WP also exhibits random freezing,
sometimes at startup, sometimes during use which can only be resolved
by pulling the battery.

My advice is to take it back for at least a check.

Cheers
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Re: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread Dario Bonazza

To no surprise, it's an excellent gallery.

Dario

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The first 47 pics are new this year.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

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Re: small geso montrose harbor

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/30/2010 5:47 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:  Just a bit of play with long exposures here.  This skyline
view is looking south from Montrose Harbor. Tried to save the 2nd shot
with a playful rendering, which might not be to everyone's taste, but
hey--have at it. If you don't like it, feel free to say so. Not a problem.

http://www.caguila.com/caguila/montroseharbor/

comments welcome
Cheers, Christine




Sorry to disappoint you, Christine, but I liked all the shots... :-)

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Re: PESO - Iron Wall

2010-08-26 Thread Rick Womer
Boris, I posted the photo without artistic intent.  I found the cast-iron wall 
so extraordinary that I wanted to tell people about it; the photo was just 
illustration.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Thu, 8/26/10, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

  Inside the Center Harbor church, the walls are covered
 in a raised
  fleur-de-lis pattern.  I thought it would be tin,
 but it felt much
  rougher and denser.  Cast iron, the woman
 showing me around said.
  It's great at Christmas--we just put the decorations
 up with
  magnets.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450527
 
  I wonder if it also keeps cell phones from ringing
 during
  services...
 
  Rick
 
 Rick, I am sorry, but without your narrative I couldn't
 possibly guess 
 that the wall was made of cast iron... So, although
 interesting, this 
 photo did not work for me...
 
 Boris
 
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Re: peso - young lady

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

On 7/25/2010 10:39 PM, Sasha Sobol wrote:

Thanks to everyone.
Low contrast and softness are deliberate indeed.
--S


I am sorry, Sasha, but my immediate reaction was - gee, this shot is 
out of focus... Which is very much unlike - lovely, and soft focus is 
just in place here...


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Re: PESO: First Photo

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Lovely, but the young gentleman is sitting still, while Meg is evidently 
moving... This would be a contradiction to the bundle of energy remark 
on the blog page, unless the potential energy is meant ;-).


Boris


On 7/31/2010 5:28 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

I have been sporadically adding items to my photoblog @
http://smhalpin.posterous.com

In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent
shot:

http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo

There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure
this group will appreciate the content nevertheless.

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Re: PESO - Iron Wall

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/26/2010 2:59 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Boris, I posted the photo without artistic intent.  I found the
cast-iron wall so extraordinary that I wanted to tell people about
it; the photo was just illustration.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


Understood... Surely I did not mean to attack you in no way, Rick... I 
It was just a thought that occurred to me while looking at your photo 
and commentary...


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Re: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread P N Stenquist

Thanks Dario.

On Aug 26, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote:


To no surprise, it's an excellent gallery.

Dario

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Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy

2010-08-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
WTF!

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm

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Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3

2010-08-26 Thread Miserere
It's made sense all along:

http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2010b/nr100826mfourthirdse.html

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10082619cosinamicrofourthirds.asp

They'll be releasing the Nokton 25mm f/0.95 next month as their first
lens (for a little under $1,200). Talk about entering the arena with a
bang  :-)


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Re: PESO: First Photo

2010-08-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
Boris,
Thanks for calling my attention to Stan's photoblog.

Stan,
You have been very busy filling this blog with great pictures!
I especially like the (thistles?) and farmlands.
And of course kids are a joy all their own.
Now I feel shamed into taking more photos.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 7/31/2010 5:28 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

 I have been sporadically adding items to my photoblog @
 http://smhalpin.posterous.com

 In particular I would like to call your attention to this recent
 shot:

 http://smhalpin.posterous.com/first-photo

 There are several technical problems with the image, but I am sure
 this group will appreciate the content nevertheless.

 stan

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RE: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: eckinator
Anyone else here suffer from Knife Buying Addiction as well? 


No, but I have way too many guitars.

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Re: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3

2010-08-26 Thread Boris Liberman

On 8/26/2010 4:21 PM, Miserere wrote:

It's made sense all along:

http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2010b/nr100826mfourthirdse.html

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10082619cosinamicrofourthirds.asp

They'll be releasing the Nokton 25mm f/0.95 next month as their first
lens (for a little under $1,200). Talk about entering the arena with a
bang  :-)


   --M.



Suddenly that Leica 25/1.4 lens looks like a bargain, though it is not 
m43, but rather original 43 format...


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Re: PESO - Paul McCartney in Montreal - Jet

2010-08-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: Miserere

On 25 August 2010 10:03, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11495071


How did you smuggle the camera in?   :-) 


Some countries have laws that don't allow the promoters to ban cameras.

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Re: PESO - At the Water

2010-08-26 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice. A very peaceful feel.

Dave

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 For some reason I thought this dog was funny - he was on to me the whole time:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/at-water.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread David J Brooks
Another excellent Dream cruise series.

Love the speed feel to this one:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963291

Good use of bondo on this one.:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963292

More my speed:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963308

Dave

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 The first 47 pics are new this year.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

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Re: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3

2010-08-26 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 8/26/2010 4:21 PM, Miserere wrote:

 It's made sense all along:

 http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2010b/nr100826mfourthirdse.html

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10082619cosinamicrofourthirds.asp

 They'll be releasing the Nokton 25mm f/0.95 next month as their first
 lens (for a little under $1,200). Talk about entering the arena with a
 bang  :-)


   --M.


 Suddenly that Leica 25/1.4 lens looks like a bargain, though it is not m43,
 but rather original 43 format...

 Boris


The price should be more like $1000 or a bit less, so not much more
than the Leica 25 for a lens that's much smaller and over a stop
faster and also findable (teh Leica's quite hard to buy new as
Panasonic doesn't regularly ship new stock). $1200 is a conversion of
the European pricing (849 Euros) but US pricing is almost never a
direct conversion, it's usually closer to the Euro list in dollars.


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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
I'm enjoying your additions to the Dream Cruise gallery.

Dave,
Where did you get the 2nd and 3rd pictures?
Something is wrong here...

Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:07 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another excellent Dream cruise series.

 Love the speed feel to this one:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963291

 Good use of bondo on this one.:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963292

 More my speed:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963308

 Dave

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 The first 47 pics are new this year.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

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RE: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread Bruce Dayton
I wish I had a problem like that.  I can't seem to get enough cash together to 
spend wantonly on any one thing to end up with an excess.
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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: David Savage

Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets


So, what's the difference between a crumpet and an English muffin?


... and Cotty, get your mind out of the gutter!

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Re: OT: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?

2010-08-26 Thread John Sessoms

Don't bother. They don't work. Trust me on this one.

From: Daniel J. Matyola

You can buy x-ray vision glasses from the ads in comic books.

G

Dan

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:



 I'd want an X-ray version ;-)))


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Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy

2010-08-26 Thread William Robb


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Subject: OT More local photogs rights controversy


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm


Not unusual. I've run into that a few times in National Parks in the USA, 
though not Canada as of yet.
Pulling out a 4x5 camera in a National Park garners instant suspicion that 
you are a commercial photographer.

I haven't used a 4x5 in a NP for some 15 years, so this isn't anything new.

William Robb 



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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-26 Thread David Savage
On 26 August 2010 22:24, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: David Savage

 Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets

 So, what's the difference between a crumpet and an English muffin?

An English muffin is bread like. A crumpet is kinda like a thick
toasted pancake, a bit chewy  fluffy in the middle.

 ... and Cotty, get your mind out of the gutter!

Never gonna' happen...


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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread David J Brooks
Fixed the 2nd and third links.
Thansk for the tip Bob

Dave

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:07 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another excellent Dream cruise series.

 Love the speed feel to this one:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963291

 Good use of bondo on this one.:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11498292

 More my speed:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11498308

 Dave

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 The first 47 pics are new this year.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

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Re: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread David J Brooks
Wrote them down wrong. Should be fixed now.

Dave

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul,
 I'm enjoying your additions to the Dream Cruise gallery.

 Dave,
 Where did you get the 2nd and 3rd pictures?
 Something is wrong here...

 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:07 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another excellent Dream cruise series.

 Love the speed feel to this one:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963291

 Good use of bondo on this one.:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963292

 More my speed:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6963308

 Dave

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 The first 47 pics are new this year.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

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Re: GESO: Parkville Days

2010-08-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: Stan Halpin

Thanks Dave, and also Bob W who made the same pick. The shot is of
course something of an accident. Or maybe I should say it was the
serendipitous result of an experiment. The Wild West Show wasn't
very wild, the script involved deserters and ruffians on the Missouri
fringes of the Southern rebellion (rather than the real West),


There was a lot more of the events that spurred the legend of the Wild 
West in what is now considered the mid-west than most people realize. 
Hollywood cowboy movies have skewed people's impressions of just where 
the west was located.


If you go by the movies, the James-Younger gang was riding around 
Monument Valley on the Arizona-Utah border robbing banks.


In real life, they committed their crimes in Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, 
Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Texas and West 
Virginia.


And, again in real life, the James-Younger gang was exactly what you 
describe, deserters and ruffians on the Missouri fringes of the 
Southern rebellion. That was the real west.



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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread eckinator
2010/8/26 Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com:

 I wish I had a problem like that.  I can't seem to get enough cash together 
 to spend wantonly on any one thing to end up with an excess.

Same here these days. No job and a small mouth to feed. And trust me,
when it comes to appetite, size doesn't matter. But I wouldn't think
twice if I had to choose again.

Cheers
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RE: GESO: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: paul stenquist

The first 47 pics are new this year.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=633960

Paul 



Has it been a year already?

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: mike wilson

Cotty wrote:

  my knob of butter.


Growing old is really the worst thing, isn't it?


It's not as bad as NOT growing old.

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RE: Odd K-x behaviour

2010-08-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: mike wilson
yesterday, I brought up an image on the screen and handed the camera to 
someone else to view.  From their puzzled look, something was wrong. 
Looking again at the screen, it was covered in vertical lines, of 
varying thickness, of pastel (at least, no vivid) colours, interspersed 
with dashed black lines one or two pixels thick.


More worryingly, none of the buttons elicited a response, even the 
on/off switch.


Just as I was beginning to seriously panic, the off switch worked (not 
immediately - it was left in the off position and finally worked after 
about three seconds) and everything returned to normal.


No recurrence.  So far.

I feel the on/off switch on this particular specimen is likely to give 
trouble in the future, due to the feel of it compared to all the others 
I have fondled.  Apart from that, I can think of no reason for what 
occured.  Anyone else have an idea?


The power switch may be going flaky, but I'd start by changing the 
batteries.


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Re: PESO - Kids in a fountain

2010-08-26 Thread Miserere
 On 8/23/2010 1:21 AM, David Parsons wrote:

 I went on a photowalk on Friday with a local group through Boston.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4914522823/

 There's more on my stream, but this is one of the best IMO.

I love it, Dave!


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Re: PESO - Kids in a fountain

2010-08-26 Thread Doug Brewer

David Parsons wrote:

I went on a photowalk on Friday with a local group through Boston.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4914522823/

There's more on my stream, but this is one of the best IMO.



oh, that's a keeper.

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Re: GESO - A Walk Around Southampton, UK

2010-08-26 Thread Miserere
On 26 August 2010 04:20, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Whether you should win a lottery or not, but anyway, buy a Leica :-)...
 That's a peculiar form of compliment, quoth me to avoid any possibility of
 a doubt...

 Boris


So thank you Boris, I guess. But I wont' be buying a Leica anytime
soon--I'm more of a $700 camera type of guy  :-)


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Re: OT: You will never look at a duck the same way

2010-08-26 Thread Miserere
On 25 August 2010 17:08, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://topcultured.com/you-will-never-look-at-a-duck-the-same-way/

At least the cormorants are safe   :-)


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Re: Anybody else going to burning man?

2010-08-26 Thread Miserere
On 26 August 2010 01:50, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I didn't get the job I interviewed for today, so WTF, I'm heading to burning 
 man.

 I don't expect so, but is anyone else going?

No, but I'm looking forward to your photos. Have fun!


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Ot: a play on words a day keeps the doctor away PUN warning , one photo reference

2010-08-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
These may have been seen by some -- I have a particularly good source 
for stuff like this

Enjoy -

ann


A man's home is his castle, in a manor of speaking.
Dijon  vu - the same mustard as before.
Practice safe eating - always use condiments.
Shotgun wedding - A case of wife or death.
A man needs a mistress just to break the monogamy.
A hangover is the wrath of grapes.
Dancing cheek-to-cheek is really a form of floor play.
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
Condoms should be used on every conceivable occasion.
 Reading  while sunbathing makes you well red.
When two egotists meet, it's an I for an I.
A bicycle can't stand on its own because it is two tired.
What's the definition of a will? (It's a dead give away.)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
In democracy your vote counts. In feudalism your count votes.
She was engaged to a boyfriend with a wooden leg but broke it off.
A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.
If you don't pay your exorcist, you get repossessed.
With her marriage, she got a new name and a dress.
The man who fell into an upholstery machine is fully recovered.
You feel stuck with your debt if you can't budge it.
Local Area Network in  Australia  - the LAN down under.
Every calendar's days are numbered.
A lot of money is tainted -  Taint yours and taint mine.
A boiled egg in the morning is hard to beat.
He had a photographic memory that was never developed.
A midget fortune-teller who escapes from prison is a small medium 
at large.

Once you've seen one shopping center, you've seen a mall.
Bakers trade bread recipes on a knead-to-know basis.
Santa's helpers are subordinate clauses.
Acupuncture is a jab well done.





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Re: OT: Would you give up an eye to get one of these?

2010-08-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
LOL!

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Don't bother. They don't work. Trust me on this one.

 From: Daniel J. Matyola

 You can buy x-ray vision glasses from the ads in comic books.

 G

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Re: Re: PESOs - Guernsey Vintage Vehicles

2010-08-26 Thread Miserere
On 25 August 2010 12:36, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 See what you missed by not coming to Guernsey for a PDML meeting!

 As you say, great fun to drive. I had a 1957 Rover 60 for a few years - same 
 shape, only 2 headlights and smaller engine. The scary bit was the freewheel 
 system - just like freewheeling on a bike. This was sold as a fuel saving 
 mechanism which optionally cut out any engine braking for coasting down hill. 
 For a car with drum brakes and weighing nearly 2 tons, it took a bit of nerve 
 to use it.

 Chris

Maybe I'll make it to the next Channel Islands PDML meetup; I've
always wanted to visit them, maybe photograph some cows, drive down
hills without brakes.



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RE: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread John Sessoms

Took a life-time to accumulate.

Didn't think about it at the time, mostly it just occurred that I had a 
little spare cash on-hand coinciding with encountering an instrument I 
wanted. There were a whole lot more I couldn't afford and didn't get.


It wasn't until years later I realized I have so many that I can't play 
them all as frequently as they should be played.


From: Bruce Dayton

I wish I had a problem like that.  I can't seem to get enough cash
together to spend wantonly on any one thing to end up with an excess.



John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

From: eckinator
 Anyone else here suffer from Knife Buying Addiction as well? 


No, but I have way too many guitars.




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Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy

2010-08-26 Thread mike wilson

Rob Studdert wrote:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm


I don't see what's controversial.  Commercial photographers usually have 
to either have permission or pay to perform their craft if they intend 
to profit from using a particular location.


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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread David Savage
On 26 August 2010 07:05, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 25 August 2010 22:56, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone else here suffer from Knife Buying Addiction as well? And do
 you feel some of the below?

 I have a set of 8 bog stock WÜSTHOF Classics, my most favored of which is the
 16cm cook's knife, it does most of what I need to do, like a good prime lens 
 ;-)

 I have a nice robust hand made ceramic/stainless steel bodied folding
 utility lock knife which I use a fair bit, otherwise that's it.

That's not a knife...

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Re: PESO - Kids in a fountain

2010-08-26 Thread David Savage
On 27 August 2010 00:23, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 David Parsons wrote:

 I went on a photowalk on Friday with a local group through Boston.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/4914522823/

 There's more on my stream, but this is one of the best IMO.


 oh, that's a keeper.

Wot he said

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OT: 88 Examples of Forced Perspective Photography

2010-08-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Some are trite, some silly, some creative and a few absolutely brilliant.

http://www.instantshift.com/2010/08/24/88-brilliant-examples-of-forced-perspective-photography/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+iShift+%28instantShift%29

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-26 Thread mike wilson

John Sessoms wrote:


From: David Savage


Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets



So, what's the difference between a crumpet and an English muffin?


... and Cotty, get your mind out of the gutter!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNKh0Zp4pw

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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread mike wilson

eckinator wrote:


2010/8/26 Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com:


I wish I had a problem like that.  I can't seem to get enough cash together to 
spend wantonly on any one thing to end up with an excess.



Same here these days. No job and a small mouth to feed. And trust me,
when it comes to appetite, size doesn't matter. But I wouldn't think
twice if I had to choose again.


I'd go for the new motorcycle, too.

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Re: LR 3.0 peculiarity

2010-08-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since I don't edit my images anywhere else than in LR and since I also don't
 have more than one LR version installed on my computer at any time, it is
 yet unclear to me why LR decided that my MD was incorrect in a way...

If you use only LR, than it might simply be a matter of internal
bookkeeping. Fr instance, if the same photos were incorporated into
two different Lightroom catalogs and one made changes, then LR might
say that the metadata was changed by an external application.

I've seen this on a couple of the catalogs I converted to LR3 (all 22
of mine are now updated to LR3 ... :-). I've simply told LR to
overwrite any metadata in any of the in-progress images, and told it
to re-import metadata from any of the finished images. No problems
yet.

 2- LR 3.0 crashing ... Are you running in 64-bit or 32-bit? on Windows
 or Mac OS X? How much RAM is installed on your system? How large is
 your catalog? How much free disk space is there on the volume where
 you have the catalog file? and the original image files?

 Here is the layout...

 Hardware:

 1. Dual core CPU (Intel 8400, if I am not mistaken)
 2. 8GB RAM
 3. 320 GB system disk
 4. 1 TB of Linux storage (RAID-1) connected directly through a separate NIC
 at 1Gbit.

 Software:

 1. Windows XP 64 bit configured so as to have no swap file whatsoever.
 2. LR 3.0

 Parameters:

 1. Order of 270 GB free on system disk
 2. Catalog is about 520 MB in size (approx 33,000 image files managed)
 3. About 300 GB free on storage.

 So it seems from what you say that it has no reasons to run unstable...

 3- And, if you are having crashing problems with LR 3.0, why haven't
 you installed and started working with LR 3.2 RC?

 I feel hesitant to install any beta/release candidate software no matter how
 loud they say it is good. Unless absolutely forced to do so, I'd rather stay
 with LR 3.0 until LR 3.2 becomes a proper release, and not just release
 candidate.

 For still photography work, USB2 and FW400 are proving to be good
 enough, and the improved USB2 performance makes the system much more
 flexible as to how to organize the hardware connections. The improved
 IO performance makes it almost a wash, in practical terms, as to
 whether I site the Lightroom catalog on the same volume as the
 original image files vs the startup drive.)

 In my case, LR catalog is on internal HDD where Windows is installed and
 photos are on external storage.

 I am open to suggestions, as usual.

Regards your crashing problems, your hardware looks up to snuff
although I'm not sure why you'd run Win XP 64-bit rather than Win 7
64-bit. Seems to me that Win 7 is a LOT better at 64bit operations
than anything out of the XP generation, but then I don't do Windows
so perhaps I'm missing some subtleties there.

However, when I have heard of intermittent crashing problems with
Windows systems it seems to be 80% of the time connected with
networked drive storage for the original image file repository. Most
of the problems seem to disappear when the image file repository is
connected locally. Again, I've only heard of these things second-hand
as, as above, I don't do Windows: it's not my specialty. Mixing a
Windows XP 64-bit system with a networked Linux storage system is
something I have zero direct experience with. But you might try moving
that storage volume to a local connect and see if you still have
crashing problems. If you don't, that's the culprit.

(My own system is all direct connection via USB2 and FW400. My 'in
progress' catalog file has 78,000 images in it, is about 1.12Gbytes in
size. I move too much data for even 1G ethernet to handle efficiently,
that's why the direct connections.)

Lightroom 2.7 was bit-for-bit identical with Lightroom 2.7 RC. When
Adobe puts out an RC version for public consumption, it's typically
about a 98% probability that the release will be identical. I've been
running on 3.2 RC for the past week, it's very reliable and stable.
I've deleted 2.7 and 2.0 from my system now.
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Re: OT: 88 Examples of Forced Perspective Photography

2010-08-26 Thread David J Brooks
A  few neat ones for sure

Dave

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 Some are trite, some silly, some creative and a few absolutely brilliant.

 http://www.instantshift.com/2010/08/24/88-brilliant-examples-of-forced-perspective-photography/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+iShift+%28instantShift%29

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Re: OT: 88 Examples of Forced Perspective Photography

2010-08-26 Thread David Savage
On 27 August 2010 01:08, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some are trite, some silly, some creative and a few absolutely brilliant.

 http://www.instantshift.com/2010/08/24/88-brilliant-examples-of-forced-perspective-photography/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+iShift+%28instantShift%29


I actually know the guy in this photo:

http://www.instantshift.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/beofpp-47.jpg

He does quite a bit of this kind of stuff  honestly this is not one
of his better efforts.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maybemaq

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Re: Leica's done with film

2010-08-26 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 06:10:59PM +0100, mike wilson wrote:
 John Sessoms wrote:

 From: David Savage

 Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets


 So, what's the difference between a crumpet and an English muffin?


 ... and Cotty, get your mind out of the gutter!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNKh0Zp4pw

I was thinking more of this:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cX07V4iwBM


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Re: OT: 88 Examples of Forced Perspective Photography

2010-08-26 Thread Jack Davis
Glorious site! Thanks for posting, Dave!

Jack

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 Subject: Re: OT: 88 Examples of Forced Perspective Photography
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 10:15 AM
 A  few neat ones for sure
 
 Dave
 
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 wrote:
  Some are trite, some silly, some creative and a few
 absolutely brilliant.
 
  http://www.instantshift.com/2010/08/24/88-brilliant-examples-of-forced-perspective-photography/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+iShift+%28instantShift%29
 
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Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-26 Thread Stan Halpin
I received my copy of Doug's book today. Just a few hours after I had received 
an email notification that it had been shipped! Either their email process is 
slow or their shipping is really fast.

I am very pleased to be in possession of this book. A very fine collection of 
work. And as someone commented here, there is a coherence of style throughout; 
Doug's Vision is stamped on every image. We have seen many of the images before 
through Doug's posting of links to online versions; I am pleasantly surprised 
to find that the printed versions are just as compelling. I was particularly 
pleased to find his image of the stockyard worker, posted recently here and/or 
on his blog. And the porthole shot that you can see on p.11 in the Blurb book 
preview is exceptional as printed on the black background.

This is a real treasure. You should all order your own copy.

stan

On Aug 19, 2010, at 7:39 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

 Christine Aguila wrote:
 Way to go, Doug.  The book looks good.  Hope you sell tons.  Cheers, 
 Christine
 
 Thanks, C and Brendan and Paul and Bob W and Dave. I hope I sell a ton of 
 them too.
 
 Special mention to Bob W for his helpful suggestions. You got your own 
 individual thanks in the intro.
 
 
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The Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-08-26 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I continue to be mystified by the official Pentax Photo Gallery and
the process of reviewing submissions.  I find that I am unable to
predict what they will like and what they will promptly reject.

The last three or four times I had submitted images, before this
month, they took a long time to review them.  Then, they would
promptly reject most, and keep one or two under review for another 2
weeks before rejecting those as well.

Then, I submitted 10 images two weeks ago, and they very quickly
rejected one and accepted two.   One of the ones the accepted was a
pretty postcard that had been previously submitted and rejected.
The other was this one:

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTISTsubSection=1309043subSubSection=10204520language=EN

While I like that image, I certainly didn't think it was the strongest
I had submitted in that group, and I was shocked that it was accepted,
let alone so quickly.  Just as a test, I then posted that image here
as a PESO, and it drew only ONE comment.  I have learned here that if
a PESO gets few comments, that means most of the photographers on this
list considered it unworthy or worse, mundane.

I now have a modest little gallery of 17 images on the Pentax Photo Gallery:

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

I don't fool myself into thinking that is a measure of my skill as an
artist, however, since a couple are cute little fawns that wandered
into my yard and virtually forced me to take their portraits, and
several others are landscapes of beautiful places that I have been
lucky enough to visit on a nice day.  There are only a few among the
17 that are original or artistic in any sense of those terms.

In any event, one thing that bothers me is the way the size limitation
is structured.  The recommended image size is 600 pixels high. There
is no stated limit on width, however.  That means the images in
portrait orientation are much smaller -- in both the thumbnail and the
full size -- than images in landscape orientation or even square
images.  I think that it makes it more difficult to get a portrait
image in the gallery and worse, it makes it harder to appreciate those
in the gallery that are in portrait orientation and therefore quite
reduced in size.  Has anyone else noticed this?

In any event, I am pleased that they took 2 out of my last 10, and
that seven more are still under review.  More than that, I have
found the process of reviewing my images and trying to pick out the
ones I think are the best candidates to be interesting and
educational.  It can be even more educational to see what the folks at
the Pentax Gallery think of them.  For example, they rejected most of
my favorite diner images, including one shot taken inside of a diner
that I think is one of my best images ever;  but, they accepted
another interior image of a diner, that I personally like but didn't
think was nearly as good as the one they rejected.  I spent almost an
hour comparing the two the other day, and finally concluded it is just
another case of different strokes for different folks.

Dan

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Re: GESO: Parkville Days

2010-08-26 Thread Stan Halpin
Yeah, I know. The Jesse James Farm, a major local tourist attraction, is only a 
few miles from me. Dodge City Kansas, storied locale of exploits by Bat 
Masterson, Wyatt Earp, and others is not that far west of here. During the 
period when my current house was built (1830's) and for some time later, this 
region was on the very fringes of civilization. But I grew up on films mostly 
shot in the Bisbee/Tombstone/Tucson area of Arizona and I can't shake that 
image of what the real wild west was like.

stan

On Aug 26, 2010, at 10:17 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Stan Halpin
 Thanks Dave, and also Bob W who made the same pick. The shot is of
 course something of an accident. Or maybe I should say it was the
 serendipitous result of an experiment. The Wild West Show wasn't
 very wild, the script involved deserters and ruffians on the Missouri
 fringes of the Southern rebellion (rather than the real West),
 
 There was a lot more of the events that spurred the legend of the Wild West 
 in what is now considered the mid-west than most people realize. Hollywood 
 cowboy movies have skewed people's impressions of just where the west was 
 located.
 
 If you go by the movies, the James-Younger gang was riding around Monument 
 Valley on the Arizona-Utah border robbing banks.
 
 In real life, they committed their crimes in Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, 
 Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Texas and West Virginia.
 
 And, again in real life, the James-Younger gang was exactly what you 
 describe, deserters and ruffians on the Missouri fringes of the Southern 
 rebellion. That was the real west.
 
 
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Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-26 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/26/10, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I received my copy of Doug's book today.

Just out of curiosity, where did it ship from?

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Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-26 Thread Stan Halpin
San Francisco.

On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

 On 8/26/10, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I received my copy of Doug's book today.
 
 Just out of curiosity, where did it ship from?
 
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Re: The Pentax Photo Gallery

2010-08-26 Thread Jack Davis
Dan, I didn't finish reading this post, no time at the moment, but when you use 
thew word they you're primarily talking about those who are submitting work. 
The Pentax team (they) doesn't get involved 'til, having survived the Yes  
No voting parameters, the images are passed along for final disposition.
No doubt the voting composition is continually changing.

Jack

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 Subject: The Pentax Photo Gallery
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 11:04 AM
 I continue to be mystified by the
 official Pentax Photo Gallery and
 the process of reviewing submissions.  I find that I
 am unable to
 predict what they will like and what they will promptly
 reject.
 
 The last three or four times I had submitted images, before
 this
 month, they took a long time to review them.  Then,
 they would
 promptly reject most, and keep one or two under review
 for another 2
 weeks before rejecting those as well.
 
 Then, I submitted 10 images two weeks ago, and they very
 quickly
 rejected one and accepted two.   One of the
 ones the accepted was a
 pretty postcard that had been previously submitted and
 rejected.
 The other was this one:
 
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTISTsubSection=1309043subSubSection=10204520language=EN
 
 While I like that image, I certainly didn't think it was
 the strongest
 I had submitted in that group, and I was shocked that it
 was accepted,
 let alone so quickly.  Just as a test, I then posted
 that image here
 as a PESO, and it drew only ONE comment.  I have
 learned here that if
 a PESO gets few comments, that means most of the
 photographers on this
 list considered it unworthy or worse, mundane.
 
 I now have a modest little gallery of 17 images on the
 Pentax Photo Gallery:
 
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 I don't fool myself into thinking that is a measure of my
 skill as an
 artist, however, since a couple are cute little fawns that
 wandered
 into my yard and virtually forced me to take their
 portraits, and
 several others are landscapes of beautiful places that I
 have been
 lucky enough to visit on a nice day.  There are only a
 few among the
 17 that are original or artistic in any sense of those
 terms.
 
 In any event, one thing that bothers me is the way the size
 limitation
 is structured.  The recommended image size is 600
 pixels high. There
 is no stated limit on width, however.  That means the
 images in
 portrait orientation are much smaller -- in both the
 thumbnail and the
 full size -- than images in landscape orientation or even
 square
 images.  I think that it makes it more difficult to
 get a portrait
 image in the gallery and worse, it makes it harder to
 appreciate those
 in the gallery that are in portrait orientation and
 therefore quite
 reduced in size.  Has anyone else noticed this?
 
 In any event, I am pleased that they took 2 out of my last
 10, and
 that seven more are still under review.  More than
 that, I have
 found the process of reviewing my images and trying to pick
 out the
 ones I think are the best candidates to be interesting and
 educational.  It can be even more educational to see
 what the folks at
 the Pentax Gallery think of them.  For example, they
 rejected most of
 my favorite diner images, including one shot taken inside
 of a diner
 that I think is one of my best images ever;  but, they
 accepted
 another interior image of a diner, that I personally like
 but didn't
 think was nearly as good as the one they rejected.  I
 spent almost an
 hour comparing the two the other day, and finally concluded
 it is just
 another case of different strokes for different folks.
 
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Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-26 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks!

On 8/26/10, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 San Francisco.


  On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Scott Loveless wrote:

   On 8/26/10, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
   I received my copy of Doug's book today.
  
   Just out of curiosity, where did it ship from?
  
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RE: Leica's done with film

2010-08-26 Thread Bob W
 From: David Savage
  Maybe so, but they gave us crumpets
 
 So, what's the difference between a crumpet and an English muffin?
 

a crumpet is more like a fat pikelet

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Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy

2010-08-26 Thread steve harley

On 2010-08-26 08:05 , William Robb wrote:


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From: Rob Studdert
Subject: OT More local photogs rights controversy


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm


Not unusual. I've run into that a few times in National Parks in the
USA, though not Canada as of yet.


i did not know there were any such restrictions in US national parks, 
but looking around i see for example in Denali there are special access 
permits for professional photographers -- they allow use of a private 
vehicle which is otherwise not permitted, so in contrast to a 
restriction, this seems like special access that others don't get


http://www.nps.gov/dena/parkmgmt/propho2.htm

in Capitol Reef NP, Utah, i see a different type of rule -- only 
commercial photography which may interfere with normal park visitation 
requires a permit


http://www.nps.gov/care/planyourvisit/comfilmphoto.htm

obviously this is a small sample; are there national parks where 
photography is restricted in less reasonable ways?


the situation is different on some US Native American reservations; for 
example i have visited Acoma Pueblo in New Mexico; while this is a 
beautiful natural area, and contains also amazing historic structures, 
it is also still the active residence of a large number of people who 
also collectively own the land; so i fully understand that camera 
permits are required as a way to make sure Acoma has a contract with the 
photographer making clear rights and responsibilities


in the case at hand, Ulura-Kata Tjuta National Park, seems to be a bit 
of a hybrid -- respect for indigenous people is clearly the objective, 
but the article questions whether the Australian government is the 
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RE: Odd K-x behaviour

2010-08-26 Thread Bob W
 yesterday, I brought up an image on the screen and handed the camera to
 someone else to view.  From their puzzled look, something was wrong.
 Looking again at the screen, it was covered in vertical lines, of varying
 thickness, of pastel (at least, no vivid) colours, interspersed with
dashed
 black lines one or two pixels thick.
 
 More worryingly, none of the buttons elicited a response, even the on/off
 switch.
 
 Just as I was beginning to seriously panic, the off switch worked (not
 immediately - it was left in the off position and finally worked after
about
 three seconds) and everything returned to normal.
 
 No recurrence.  So far.
 
 I feel the on/off switch on this particular specimen is likely to give
trouble in
 the future, due to the feel of it compared to all the others I have
fondled.
 Apart from that, I can think of no reason for what occured.  Anyone else
have
 an idea?

you were probably kidnapped by aliens and subjected to a range of
unspeakable breeding experiments before your memory was wiped.

B


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Re: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread Ken Waller
Paul - nice work as usual, great varied selection of vehicles,  however I 
noticed that most of the reds seem blown out.

picked this http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11498401 as an example.

Kenneth Waller
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Re: Odd K-x behaviour

2010-08-26 Thread eckinator
2010/8/26 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 I feel the on/off switch on this particular specimen is likely to give
 trouble in the future, due to the feel of it compared to all the others
 I have fondled.

 you were probably kidnapped by aliens and subjected to a range of
 unspeakable breeding experiments before your memory was wiped.

Yeah, fondling those uhm... specimens must have given them ideas

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Re: OT KBA vs LBA

2010-08-26 Thread eckinator
2010/8/26 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:

 I'd go for the new motorcycle, too.

Ouch, no fair. You know where it hurts most...

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Re: OT: 88 Examples of Forced Perspective Photography

2010-08-26 Thread eckinator
Makes me wanna sit down for a long hard look for the photoshopped ones
Thanks for sharing
Ecke

2010/8/26 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 Some are trite, some silly, some creative and a few absolutely brilliant.

 http://www.instantshift.com/2010/08/24/88-brilliant-examples-of-forced-perspective-photography/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+iShift+%28instantShift%29

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Re: Cosina-Voigtlander joins micro-4/3

2010-08-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On the other hand, it remains to be seen whether the Nokton 25mm
f/0.95 an all-manual lens or a dedicated Micro-FourThirds integrated
lens with on-body aperture control and lens correction metadata
included. The Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH is not only one of the most
beautiful imaging normal lenses on the format, it autofocuses AND
includes chromatic aberration correction metadata (used by Panasonic
Lumix G bodies for both in-camera and raw files).

Also, the design of the mount and such means that real transmission
values of lens openings greater than f/1.4 are likely not significant.

I paid $800 (including tax and ship) for my Summilux 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
and use it on E-1, L1 and G1 bodies interchangeably. It's about my
favorite lens. It's large and heavy, but it always returns the goods.

BTW, I'm not knocking Cosina's entry into Micro-FourThirds at all! I
think it's a great thing. :-)



On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 8/26/2010 4:21 PM, Miserere wrote:

 It's made sense all along:

 http://www.olympus-global.com/en/news/2010b/nr100826mfourthirdse.html

 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1008/10082619cosinamicrofourthirds.asp

 They'll be releasing the Nokton 25mm f/0.95 next month as their first
 lens (for a little under $1,200). Talk about entering the arena with a
 bang  :-)


   --M.


 Suddenly that Leica 25/1.4 lens looks like a bargain, though it is not m43,
 but rather original 43 format...

 Boris


 The price should be more like $1000 or a bit less, so not much more
 than the Leica 25 for a lens that's much smaller and over a stop
 faster and also findable (teh Leica's quite hard to buy new as
 Panasonic doesn't regularly ship new stock). $1200 is a conversion of
 the European pricing (849 Euros) but US pricing is almost never a
 direct conversion, it's usually closer to the Euro list in dollars.


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Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy

2010-08-26 Thread Ken Waller
The photo permits for professionals in Denali are severely restricted and 
not available to all that apply.
There is only one two lane road, around 90 miles long, in Denali and most of 
the road traffic is for the park run tour busses. In some places there is 
absolutely no place for a vehicle to park off road. The pros that do get 
permits are restricted to having their vehicles off the road during specific 
hours.


In the off season the park road is open for a short time to Alaska residents 
and their vehicles.


Capitol Reef doesn't have the same limited road conditions as Denali.

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Subject: Re: OT More local photogs rights controversy



On 2010-08-26 08:05 , William Robb wrote:


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Subject: OT More local photogs rights controversy


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/26/2993756.htm


Not unusual. I've run into that a few times in National Parks in the
USA, though not Canada as of yet.


i did not know there were any such restrictions in US national parks, but 
looking around i see for example in Denali there are special access 
permits for professional photographers -- they allow use of a private 
vehicle which is otherwise not permitted, so in contrast to a restriction, 
this seems like special access that others don't get


http://www.nps.gov/dena/parkmgmt/propho2.htm

in Capitol Reef NP, Utah, i see a different type of rule -- only 
commercial photography which may interfere with normal park visitation 
requires a permit


http://www.nps.gov/care/planyourvisit/comfilmphoto.htm

obviously this is a small sample; are there national parks where 
photography is restricted in less reasonable ways?


the situation is different on some US Native American reservations; for 
example i have visited Acoma Pueblo in New Mexico; while this is a 
beautiful natural area, and contains also amazing historic structures, it 
is also still the active residence of a large number of people who also 
collectively own the land; so i fully understand that camera permits are 
required as a way to make sure Acoma has a contract with the photographer 
making clear rights and responsibilities


in the case at hand, Ulura-Kata Tjuta National Park, seems to be a bit of 
a hybrid -- respect for indigenous people is clearly the objective, but 
the article questions whether the Australian government is the perfect 
steward for that respect



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Re: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread P N Stenquist

Thanks Ken.
In regard to the reds, highly saturated perhaps, I could tone them  
down, but I like reds that pop. With reflective paint and flash  
lighting, it doesn't take any boost to get that. The saturation level  
is as recorded, with just a bit of a boost on the vibrance.

Paul
On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Paul - nice work as usual, great varied selection of vehicles,   
however I noticed that most of the reds seem blown out.
picked this http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11498401 as an  
example.


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RE: PESO: Bob W

2010-08-26 Thread Bob W
  a quick snap of Bob when we met up recently in Florac - we spent a
  couple of really nice days with Bob - it was a pleasure and hope we
  can repeat the idea next time we are in Europe.
 
 Did he burst in laughter immediately thereafter?
 

I'm always laughing, Boris. 
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Re: Buy My Book! was Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-26 Thread Doug Brewer

Stan Halpin wrote:

I received my copy of Doug's book today. Just a few hours after I had received 
an email notification that it had been shipped! Either their email process is 
slow or their shipping is really fast.

I am very pleased to be in possession of this book. A very fine collection of work. And 
as someone commented here, there is a coherence of style throughout; Doug's Vision is 
stamped on every image. We have seen many of the images before through Doug's posting of 
links to online versions; I am pleasantly surprised to find that the printed versions are 
just as compelling. I was particularly pleased to find his image of the stockyard worker, 
posted recently here and/or on his blog. And the porthole shot that you can 
see on p.11 in the Blurb book preview is exceptional as printed on the black background.

This is a real treasure. You should all order your own copy.

stan


Totally unsolicited. Thanks, Stan.

And I agree. You should all order your own copy.

If you want, you can send me money, I'll order for you, sign it, and 
send it on to you. Send me your zip, I'll calculate shipping, and we'll 
all be deliriously happy.


Unless you don't want me to deface it.

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Re: The Dream Cruise

2010-08-26 Thread Ken Waller
I like reds that pop also - shot velvia for many years because of the 
saturated look.
On my calibrated monitor most of the reds have a mottled/uneven/somewhat 
'dirty' appearance - distracting IMO.


Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: The Dream Cruise



Thanks Ken.
In regard to the reds, highly saturated perhaps, I could tone them  down, 
but I like reds that pop. With reflective paint and flash  lighting, it 
doesn't take any boost to get that. The saturation level  is as recorded, 
with just a bit of a boost on the vibrance.

Paul
On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Paul - nice work as usual, great varied selection of vehicles,   however 
I noticed that most of the reds seem blown out.
picked this http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11498401 as an 
example.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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Re: Odd K-x behaviour

2010-08-26 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:

yesterday, I brought up an image on the screen and handed the camera to
someone else to view.  From their puzzled look, something was wrong.
Looking again at the screen, it was covered in vertical lines, of varying
thickness, of pastel (at least, no vivid) colours, interspersed with


dashed


black lines one or two pixels thick.

More worryingly, none of the buttons elicited a response, even the on/off
switch.

Just as I was beginning to seriously panic, the off switch worked (not
immediately - it was left in the off position and finally worked after


about


three seconds) and everything returned to normal.

No recurrence.  So far.

I feel the on/off switch on this particular specimen is likely to give


trouble in


the future, due to the feel of it compared to all the others I have


fondled.


Apart from that, I can think of no reason for what occured.  Anyone else


have


an idea?



you were probably kidnapped by aliens and subjected to a range of
unspeakable breeding experiments before your memory was wiped.


If that's true, _they_ will be the ones needing memory wipe before long

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Re: Odd K-x behaviour

2010-08-26 Thread mike wilson

eckinator wrote:


2010/8/26 Bob W p...@web-options.com:


I feel the on/off switch on this particular specimen is likely to give
trouble in the future, due to the feel of it compared to all the others
I have fondled.


you were probably kidnapped by aliens and subjected to a range of
unspeakable breeding experiments before your memory was wiped.



Yeah, fondling those uhm... specimens must have given them ideas


Leave my eyebrows out of this.

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