Re: PESO - Freedom

2013-07-27 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/07/bikes-free-people.html?m=1

...one with every bike!
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Re: Cheap extension tubes and reverse lense adaptors (and other photo accessories)

2013-07-27 Thread Richard Dell

You can enter pentax in the search window to filter the results.

Interesting collection of flashes.


On 7/27/2013 10:00 PM, John wrote:

I only went down as far as the bottom of the first page. I hadn't seen
enough Pentax content to justify clicking for the next page.

On 7/27/2013 7:50 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

You didn't look enough they also had some non coupled extension tubes.
The tubes were cheap, and I mean that in all senses of the word.

On 7/27/2013 5:30 PM, John wrote:

The only two instances where I found the word "Pentax" on the page
were for adapters to use Pentax lenses on non-Pentax cameras.

On 7/27/2013 2:18 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Hi All,


I suspect some people might know this source, but some - might not.
So, I hope it might be useful for somebody.
http://dx.com - sells a bunch of camera accessories, including
extension tubes and reverse lense mount adaptors.
They are not the best quality, but very affordable.
(Just in case: I remember seeing that some reviewers say that thread
on some of those was tight, but usable.)
They also have various lens caps and hoods, color balance caps/cards,
etc.

http://dx.com/c/cameras-photo-video-1599/lenses-accessories-1523?pageSize=200&page=1 




Couple of funny "cameras":
1. 5MP camera for IR! - for only
$23.50:
http://dx.com/p/cm-8-cmos-5-0mp-high-definition-ir-night-vision-aluminum-alloy-casing-mini-digital-camera-black-224243 



(It has an optical viewfinder, and now screen! - for the purists! 
:-) )


and
2.  $24 micro-sized camera:
http://dx.com/p/hd-720p-12mp-mini-camera-photograph-video-voice-record-motion-detection-webcam-131040 




Disclaimer: you may waste lots of time browsing through this store...
:-)

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Re: PESO: Tarky House

2013-07-27 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, the weathering away seems to give them an irresistible character 
Thanks for your pleasing remarks, Gerrit.

Jack





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Subject: RE: PESO: Tarky House

Great framing. and colours. Sad how houses get abandoned to rot like that,
you wonder what happened to the family.

Gerrit

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Subject: PESO: Tarky House



Shot this several year ago with an LX w/20mm A* lens. Thistles weren't there
at that time, but I worked my way through near shoulder high dry grass and
shot from near the front corner of the house.
I was hoping to get an angle through the front arched iron gate, but found
it completely obscured by very thick undergrowth.

Had a critical case of cabin fever and a serious hankerin' to shoot
something. It's been too hot this summer to get far from the A/C. Was 111 F
recently..."but it's dry heat"..like that makes all the difference.  Right!

Shot this today, it isn't yet 100 F, but will make it this PM.

Comments?

Jack

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Re: PESO: Loon

2013-07-27 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013, Don Guthrie wrote:
>
> Love the loon. The K-5 just isn't fussy about iso. I often like the
> TAV setting where you set the shutter & aperture and let the K-5 set
> iso wherever it falls.

Seconded, although you can end up with a similar problem if you set the
shutter speed to, say, 1/5000 because you're on a moving train and then
you try taking a shot of a dark shop window when the train stops
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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Thanks, Tan, BIll, and all of you -

Aahz actually wrote me off list with specific instructions :-)
but all of you chimed in "splaining" it to me

Glad it happened when it really didn't matter

ann

On 7/27/2013 21:15, Tanya Love wrote:

What Bill said!

Sent from my iPhone

On 27/07/2013, at 3:41 PM, Bill  wrote:


On 26/07/2013 8:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Ok - my blood pressure is rising guys

I've been shooting for several days no problem...
suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
shows an image of the green button.

The greeen screen flashes "F--" doesnt show iso...

I have no idea what I've done...

Sounds like you've either mounted a non A series lens, or have moved the 
aperture ring off A on an A series lens.

bill


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Re: Cheap extension tubes and reverse lense adaptors (and other photo accessories)

2013-07-27 Thread John

I only went down as far as the bottom of the first page. I hadn't seen
enough Pentax content to justify clicking for the next page.

On 7/27/2013 7:50 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

You didn't look enough they also had some non coupled extension tubes.
The tubes were cheap, and I mean that in all senses of the word.

On 7/27/2013 5:30 PM, John wrote:

The only two instances where I found the word "Pentax" on the page
were for adapters to use Pentax lenses on non-Pentax cameras.

On 7/27/2013 2:18 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Hi All,


I suspect some people might know this source, but some - might not.
So, I hope it might be useful for somebody.
http://dx.com - sells a bunch of camera accessories, including
extension tubes and reverse lense mount adaptors.
They are not the best quality, but very affordable.
(Just in case: I remember seeing that some reviewers say that thread
on some of those was tight, but usable.)
They also have various lens caps and hoods, color balance caps/cards,
etc.

http://dx.com/c/cameras-photo-video-1599/lenses-accessories-1523?pageSize=200&page=1


Couple of funny "cameras":
1. 5MP camera for IR! - for only
$23.50:
http://dx.com/p/cm-8-cmos-5-0mp-high-definition-ir-night-vision-aluminum-alloy-casing-mini-digital-camera-black-224243

(It has an optical viewfinder, and now screen! - for the purists! :-) )

and
2.  $24 micro-sized camera:
http://dx.com/p/hd-720p-12mp-mini-camera-photograph-video-voice-record-motion-detection-webcam-131040


Disclaimer: you may waste lots of time browsing through this store...
:-)

HTH,

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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Paul. I'll review Kim's pic. Striking that happy medium point
between flattering a portrait and virtual botox is always a hard
choice.

BTW, Kim is living proof that if you take good care of your skin when
you are younger you'll look a lot healthier in your senior years.
Everyone should be so fortunate.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> This whole set is quite nice.  I wonder, though, if you could smooth out the
> smile lines a little on Kim and a skosh on the left side of her neck and
> under her chin.
>
> -p
>
>
> On 7/26/2013 3:55 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 03:14:43PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

 http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp
>>>
>>>
>>> A nice photo of a very lovely young lady.
>>>
>>> I think it may have been slightly improved if she had turned
>>> her face just a bit more towards the light.
>>
>>
>> I agree. Sadly, I had limited time with her to try variations.
>>
>>
>>> Looking a little further down the set, I particularly liked
>>> the photo of your sister in front of the brick wall.
>>> The pattern of light from the flash makes for an excellent background.
>>
>>
>> Thanks; a spontaneous one. She's a creative, was a child dancer and
>> has never lost the impulse to cut loose.
>>
>>

 K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200;
 Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture;
 AF540FGZ @ 1/2 power in fleaBay 30" octa umbrella softbox, left.
>>>
>>>
>>> umbrella softbox?
>>
>>
>> Yup, one of these:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Photo-80cm-315-Octagon-Umbrella-Flash-Softbox-Brolly-Reflector-/300896302632
>>
>> Best twenty five bucks I've spent in ages. I know it will eventually
>> break like all cheap umbrellas do, but I can afford to mail-order one
>> whenever I need another. Folds down to a very small flat package, easy
>> to carry around. Super light on the monopod, so everyone who was asked
>> to was able to hold it up.
>>
>> Thanks, Larry!
>>
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Re: K-5 malfuction... or is it moi? HELP!

2013-07-27 Thread Tanya Love
What Bill said!

Sent from my iPhone

On 27/07/2013, at 3:41 PM, Bill  wrote:

> On 26/07/2013 8:56 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>> 
>> Ok - my blood pressure is rising guys
>> 
>> I've been shooting for several days no problem...
>> suddenly instead of getting the nice friendly rear view
>> that tells me what aperature, speed, etc and lots of choices
>> i have to adjust things, when I firstturn on the camera
>> the back lcd view suddenly says aperture priority automatic exposure
>> shows an image of the green button.
>> 
>> The greeen screen flashes "F--" doesnt show iso...
>> 
>> I have no idea what I've done...
> Sounds like you've either mounted a non A series lens, or have moved the 
> aperture ring off A on an A series lens.
> 
> bill
> 
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Re: PESO Enamel lava

2013-07-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Ann. I see what you mean re Deb Kerr; I expect sis'd be flattered.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Pretty niece, nice light but , wow, your sister -
> Deborah Kerr !
>
> ann
>
>
> On 7/26/2013 16:42, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Walt.
>>
>> Yup, sorry, I'm afraid I enlisted my niece as the light-slave. Sophie
>> was initially invited on this shoot to be an assistant, but then we
>> changed our plan to include more age diversity and asked her to come
>> made-up. As you can see, she outdid herself.
>>
>> In _this_ shot she's holding the softbox while I shoot her mother, my sis:
>> http://flic.kr/p/fgQKep
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
>>>
>>> Another great photo with another lovely model.
>>>
>>> Please tell me you haven't been wasting that valuable resource on
>>> voice-activated light modification.
>>>
>>> -- Walt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/26/2013 2:14 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:


 Now, not even my own family is safe: a niece models ...

 http://flic.kr/p/fh1Xqp

 K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 70mm/F:7.1, 1/160th, ISO 200;
 Lr + Ps + Nik + Portraiture;
 AF540FGZ @ 1/2 power in fleaBay 30" octa umbrella softbox, left.

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Re: Cheap extension tubes and reverse lense adaptors (and other photo accessories)

2013-07-27 Thread P.J. Alling
You didn't look enough they also had some non coupled extension tubes.  
The tubes were cheap, and I mean that in all senses of the word.


On 7/27/2013 5:30 PM, John wrote:
The only two instances where I found the word "Pentax" on the page 
were for adapters to use Pentax lenses on non-Pentax cameras.


On 7/27/2013 2:18 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Hi All,


I suspect some people might know this source, but some - might not.
So, I hope it might be useful for somebody.
http://dx.com - sells a bunch of camera accessories, including
extension tubes and reverse lense mount adaptors.
They are not the best quality, but very affordable.
(Just in case: I remember seeing that some reviewers say that thread
on some of those was tight, but usable.)
They also have various lens caps and hoods, color balance caps/cards,
etc.

http://dx.com/c/cameras-photo-video-1599/lenses-accessories-1523?pageSize=200&page=1 



Couple of funny "cameras":
1. 5MP camera for IR! - for only
$23.50:
http://dx.com/p/cm-8-cmos-5-0mp-high-definition-ir-night-vision-aluminum-alloy-casing-mini-digital-camera-black-224243 


(It has an optical viewfinder, and now screen! - for the purists! :-) )

and
2.  $24 micro-sized camera:
http://dx.com/p/hd-720p-12mp-mini-camera-photograph-video-voice-record-motion-detection-webcam-131040 



Disclaimer: you may waste lots of time browsing through this store...
:-)

HTH,

Igor








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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?

2013-07-27 Thread Mark Roberts
John wrote:

>On 7/27/2013 6:24 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about it. Only a mild intellectual curiosity at the
>>> moment, but if anyone has ideas I'd be interested in hearing them.
>>
>> Haven't done that (nor seen anyone who has), but I have seen someone
>> using a Mac virtual machine under Windows, can try hunting that down
>> if you're interested.
>
>My interest is in the actual building of a physical machine.

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Re: OT - Plus -X Film Available

2013-07-27 Thread P.J. Alling
I know there is some disagreement about this, but in my experience 
Ilford FP-4 Plus is comparable to Kodak Plus X with a couple of 
exceptions.  The important one being that FP-4 seems to look sharper, oh 
yes, and it's also still manufactured. I used to buy FP-4 because it was 
less expensive. They're both old fashioned, well more or less, 
traditional films.


On 7/27/2013 12:39 PM, Mark C wrote:
A little while ago the topic of Plus-X film came up. I just stumbled 
into this:


http://www.ultrafineonline.com/kopl125bwfi3.html

At $6.98 per roll it is a bit too pricey for me (I have a dozen roll 
in the freezer already) but if anyone wants to get some it seems like 
they have it.


This place also sells a house film called Ultrafine Xtreme which is 
rumored to be re-branded Kentmere. I don't know if that is true or not 
but the films look exactly the same and my preliminary tests (I've 
only tried 2 rolls and only in Rodinal) have yeilded very consistent 
results between the two. The published times for the films are 
significantly different - but, for Rodinal 1:50 at least, the 
published time for the Ultrafine seems significantly too short.


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RE: PESO: Tarky House

2013-07-27 Thread Gerrit Visser
Great framing. and colours. Sad how houses get abandoned to rot like that,
you wonder what happened to the family.

Gerrit

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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 3:53 PM
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Subject: Fw: PESO: Tarky House



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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: PESO: Tarky House



Shot this several year ago with an LX w/20mm A* lens. Thistles weren't there
at that time, but I worked my way through near shoulder high dry grass and
shot from near the front corner of the house.
I was hoping to get an angle through the front arched iron gate, but found
it completely obscured by very thick undergrowth.

Had a critical case of cabin fever and a serious hankerin' to shoot
something. It's been too hot this summer to get far from the A/C. Was 111 F
recently..."but it's dry heat"..like that makes all the difference.  Right!

Shot this today, it isn't yet 100 F, but will make it this PM.

Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=699

K20 (back-up), DA 16~45 at 20mm, f/22, 1/125, ISO 400  

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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?

2013-07-27 Thread John

On 7/27/2013 6:24 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:


I'm thinking about it. Only a mild intellectual curiosity at the
moment, but if anyone has ideas I'd be interested in hearing them.


Haven't done that (nor seen anyone who has), but I have seen someone
using a Mac virtual machine under Windows, can try hunting that down
if you're interested.



My interest is in the actual building of a physical machine.

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Re: Fw: PESO: Tarky House

2013-07-27 Thread Jack Davis
Well, I lived in Southwest Iowa for many years and I have vivid miserable 
memories of 85F humidity. 
It's a suffocating almost panicky feeling when both are above average. I'll 
take it dry, especially with this often extreme Sacramento Valley heat. 
It sort of forces one to chose the morning and evening sweet light time of day.

Jack



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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: PESO: Tarky House

The main difference dry heat seems to make is you get dehydrated a lot 
faster, but you don't really notice it as soon because the sweat 
evaporates so fast.

On 7/27/2013 3:52 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Shot this several year ago with an LX w/20mm A* lens. Thistles
> weren't there at that time, but I worked my way through near shoulder
> high dry grass and shot from near the front corner of the house. I
> was hoping to get an angle through the front arched iron gate, but
> found it completely obscured by very thick undergrowth.
>
> Had a critical case of cabin fever and a serious hankerin' to shoot
> something. It's been too hot this summer to get far from the A/C. Was
> 111 F recently..."but it's dry heat"..like that makes all the
> difference.  Right!
>
> Shot this today, it isn't yet 100 F, but will make it this PM.
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=699
>
> K20 (back-up), DA 16~45 at 20mm, f/22, 1/125, ISO 400
>

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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?

2013-07-27 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote:

>I'm thinking about it. Only a mild intellectual curiosity at the moment, 
>but if anyone has ideas I'd be interested in hearing them.
>
>Other than just buy a Mac.
>
>I'm not interested in buying a Mac, but the idea of building one from 
>scratch intrigues me.

Yep. Did it with a Dell 10v Mini, a netbook computer. Tons of
documentation online for this particular model. Makes a neat travel
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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?

2013-07-27 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about it. Only a mild intellectual curiosity at the
> moment, but if anyone has ideas I'd be interested in hearing them.

Haven't done that (nor seen anyone who has), but I have seen someone
using a Mac virtual machine under Windows, can try hunting that down if
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Re: Fw: PESO: Tarky House

2013-07-27 Thread John
The main difference dry heat seems to make is you get dehydrated a lot 
faster, but you don't really notice it as soon because the sweat 
evaporates so fast.


On 7/27/2013 3:52 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Shot this several year ago with an LX w/20mm A* lens. Thistles
weren't there at that time, but I worked my way through near shoulder
high dry grass and shot from near the front corner of the house. I
was hoping to get an angle through the front arched iron gate, but
found it completely obscured by very thick undergrowth.

Had a critical case of cabin fever and a serious hankerin' to shoot
something. It's been too hot this summer to get far from the A/C. Was
111 F recently..."but it's dry heat"..like that makes all the
difference.  Right!

Shot this today, it isn't yet 100 F, but will make it this PM.

Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=699

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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well done. Nice framing.

Paul via phone

On Jul 27, 2013, at 5:01 PM, "Gerrit Visser"  wrote:

> Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
> days.
> 
> Good angles and framing.
> 
> Gerrit
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: GESO Car parts
> 
> I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car nuts
> or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 & 70 mm prime for
> the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.
> 
> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR
> 
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Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread John Sessoms

On 7/27/2013 3:47 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 09:20:05AM -0700, Aahz Maruch wrote:


You still haven't answered the implied question: are you being literal or
figurative?  The only way you could be literally accurate is if there is
something wrong, there's just no way for an upgraded Firefox to be a
hundred times slower otherwise.  (I don't care how old your computer is,
that's essentially irrelevant.)


Unless, of course, you run out of physical memory, and start thrashing.
Needing more memory than the machine currently has available can easily
cause a particular program to run a hundred times slower.

The older a machine is, the less memory is likely to have been configured
on it (memory gets significantly cheaper every year).



The current motherboard in this one is somewhere 5 - 7 years old (maybe 
older). It's old enough it's got an AGP video slot.


The board maxes out at 2GB RAM & that's what is installed.

I had a problem with the system locking up that appeared to be memory 
related (particularly to how Windoze leaks memory over time) so I went 
ahead and replaced all the memory, upgrading to max at that time.


I recently added an AGP video card (figured I'd better do that while AGP 
cards were still available) and that's helped a tiny bit.


Bottom line is I had a version of FireFox that ran efficiently on THIS 
machine until Mozilla started badgering me to "upgrade". The "upgrade" 
is NOT!


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Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread John Sessoms

I think you're confusing Joe Btfspik with Lonesome Polecat.

Actually, I had let the subject go until someone told me I didn't know
what the words mean. I may be wrong on a subject, but I do know what my
words mean.

On 7/27/2013 1:00 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

John,
Are you old enough to remember the cartoon 'Little Abner'.
I think that's where I met Chief Rain-in-the-Face, always
followed around by his own rain clouds.
You need to make yourself a sunnier climate.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:12 AM, John  wrote:

I *do* understand exactly what "ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE" means. I chose
those words deliberately and with malice aforethought ...

There's nothing wrong with the computer, it's just old. I was using the
older version of Firefox because I didn't want all the added overhead
processing that comes with feature creep in the newer version.

On 7/27/2013 12:01 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:


On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, John wrote:



I finally gave in to the badgering & installed the latest version of
Firefox. Got rid of the nag tab, but it ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE slower
to load anything than the previous version I was using.



One order of magnitude would be ten times slower.  "Orders" plural means
at least two orders of magnitude or more than a hundred times slower.
Unless you're being figurative, there's something seriously wrong with
your computer that you need to diagnose.  (Firefox has been roughly
speed-stable for me since 2.0, maybe even a bit faster over time, but
it's hard to separate out varying network effects.)




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Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?

2013-07-27 Thread John

No K-50 on that page though.

On 7/27/2013 12:52 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

I remember an issue a while back where the union/government was trying
to prevent Boeing from moving some production out of Washington state to
S Carolina. Apparently the company won.

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/charleston/

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "John" 
Subject: Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?



On 7/26/2013 11:48 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

I'd bet that the parts for a lens come from many different sources
that specialize in the part they are producing for such a lens, or
even a camera body.

Ricoh - Pentax may design a lens, but with some in-house exceptions,
the parts, barrel, motors, circuit boards, flat cables, switches, and
parts that require being machined, all are ordered out-sourced.

Look at the Boeing 787, Almost all of it is manufactured around the
world (at least it was originally, until they found out how shoddy
some of the parts were). But everything comes together here in
Everett and their back east (N. Carolina??) factory. Same with the
automobile manufacturing process. It was big news when Apple
announced they would be making the new Mac Pro in the US. Of course,
I think they mean assembling a percentage of it. The same with the
glasses you are wearing to read this. Think the frame designers have
the machines to make the little tiny screws that hold them together?
And you know the optics come from elsewhere, ground from blanks that
come from somewhere else.

Few companies qualify to be shown on "How it's Made" without showing
you that some part of the product is delivered, except maybe the
Swiss Army Knife and the LeatherMan.


On Jul 25, 2013, at 16:14 , David Parsons wrote:


I can't imagine that crowdsourcing is capable of raising enough
money to shut down a production line, retool, and make new
product.





Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com



I think Boeing has some kind of IT facility in Charleston, SC, but I
don't think they manufacture aircraft there. I don't know of any
aircraft manufacturing in the Carolinas, although there's a small
aircraft graveyard & a couple of major overhaul facilities. Bensen
Aircraft used to manufacture autogyros at RDU airport, but they closed
back in the late 80s.

Lockheed Martin has a plant in Atlanta, but I believe it's used strictly
for military aircraft since it's located on Dobbins AFB (Dobbins Joint
Air Reserve Base). I'm pretty sure they still manufacture C-130s there.

I did a quick Google search for the Boeing 787 & it looks like final
assembly might be done in Everett, WA.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57595794-235/boeing-shows-off-first-fully-painted-787-9-dreamliner/


The interesting thing about that page is that as you scroll down, a
Pentax K-50 practically leaps off the page at you - lower right "Special
offer for new CNET members" "Learn how to do more with your DSLR". I
don't think they're offering a K-50, just gonna' tell you what to do
with yours.





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Re: Cheap extension tubes and reverse lense adaptors (and other photo accessories)

2013-07-27 Thread John
The only two instances where I found the word "Pentax" on the page were 
for adapters to use Pentax lenses on non-Pentax cameras.


On 7/27/2013 2:18 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:



Hi All,


I suspect some people might know this source, but some - might not.
So, I hope it might be useful for somebody.
http://dx.com - sells a bunch of camera accessories, including
extension tubes and reverse lense mount adaptors.
They are not the best quality, but very affordable.
(Just in case: I remember seeing that some reviewers say that thread
on some of those was tight, but usable.)
They also have various lens caps and hoods, color balance caps/cards,
etc.

http://dx.com/c/cameras-photo-video-1599/lenses-accessories-1523?pageSize=200&page=1

Couple of funny "cameras":
1. 5MP camera for IR! - for only
$23.50:
http://dx.com/p/cm-8-cmos-5-0mp-high-definition-ir-night-vision-aluminum-alloy-casing-mini-digital-camera-black-224243
(It has an optical viewfinder, and now screen! - for the purists! :-) )

and
2.  $24 micro-sized camera:
http://dx.com/p/hd-720p-12mp-mini-camera-photograph-video-voice-record-motion-detection-webcam-131040

Disclaimer: you may waste lots of time browsing through this store...
:-)

HTH,

Igor





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OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?

2013-07-27 Thread John Sessoms
I'm thinking about it. Only a mild intellectual curiosity at the moment, 
but if anyone has ideas I'd be interested in hearing them.


Other than just buy a Mac.

I'm not interested in buying a Mac, but the idea of building one from 
scratch intrigues me.


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RE: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Gerrit Visser
Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

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To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car nuts
or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 & 70 mm prime for
the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: Fw: PESO: Tarky House

2013-07-27 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Bruce and Bob. Appreciated remarks!
 
Jack 


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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: PESO: Tarky House

Jack,
That's quite nice, but 100 F is no good.
The weeds complement the weather warn wood of the house.
The barbed wire fence is a plus.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
> - Forwarded Message -
> From: Jack Davis 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 11:51 AM
> Subject: PESO: Tarky House
>
>
>
> Shot this several year ago with an LX w/20mm A* lens. Thistles weren't there 
> at that time, but I worked my way through near shoulder high dry grass and 
> shot from near the front corner of the house.
> I was hoping to get an angle through the front arched iron gate, but found it 
> completely obscured by very thick undergrowth.
>
> Had a critical case of cabin fever and a serious hankerin' to shoot 
> something. It's been too hot this summer to get far from the A/C. Was 111 F 
> recently..."but it's dry heat"..like that makes all the difference.  Right!
>
> Shot this today, it isn't yet 100 F, but will make it this PM.
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=699
>
> K20 (back-up), DA 16~45 at 20mm, f/22, 1/125, ISO 400
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Re: Fw: PESO: Tarky House

2013-07-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack,
That's quite nice, but 100 F is no good.
The weeds complement the weather warn wood of the house.
The barbed wire fence is a plus.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
> - Forwarded Message -
> From: Jack Davis 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 11:51 AM
> Subject: PESO: Tarky House
>
>
>
> Shot this several year ago with an LX w/20mm A* lens. Thistles weren't there 
> at that time, but I worked my way through near shoulder high dry grass and 
> shot from near the front corner of the house.
> I was hoping to get an angle through the front arched iron gate, but found it 
> completely obscured by very thick undergrowth.
>
> Had a critical case of cabin fever and a serious hankerin' to shoot 
> something. It's been too hot this summer to get far from the A/C. Was 111 F 
> recently..."but it's dry heat"..like that makes all the difference.  Right!
>
> Shot this today, it isn't yet 100 F, but will make it this PM.
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=699
>
> K20 (back-up), DA 16~45 at 20mm, f/22, 1/125, ISO 400
>
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RE: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread Gerrit Visser
1 tab 120mb, 7 tabs with lots of graphics on Chrome on Windows 8, 150mb.
Netscape was crap, Firefox continues that tradition.

The 'Linux is great' is really tiring.

Gerrit
 
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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:14 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013, John Francis wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 09:20:05AM -0700, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>> 
>> You still haven't answered the implied question: are you being 
>> literal or figurative?  The only way you could be literally accurate 
>> is if there is something wrong, there's just no way for an upgraded 
>> Firefox to be a hundred times slower otherwise.  (I don't care how 
>> old your computer is, that's essentially irrelevant.)
> 
> Unless, of course, you run out of physical memory, and start thrashing.
> Needing more memory than the machine currently has available can 
> easily cause a particular program to run a hundred times slower.
> 
> The older a machine is, the less memory is likely to have been 
> configured on it (memory gets significantly cheaper every year).

All true, and I wrote something about that but decided to delete it.
>From my POV, that's still "something wrong", even if semi-expected under
certain circumstances.  Thing is, I loaded up five tabs in Firefox (each a
different site), and it's using <250MB.  I can't imagine someone seriously
into digital photography using a machine so underpowered that thrashing
would show up with that usage.  (Of course, I'm using Linux, Firefox could
be more of a memory hog under Windows.)
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Re: Fw: PESO: Tarky House

2013-07-27 Thread Bruce Walker
I like the colour and light. Tantalizing glimpse of the derelict
house. Good one, Jack.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
> - Forwarded Message -
> From: Jack Davis 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 11:51 AM
> Subject: PESO: Tarky House
>
>
>
> Shot this several year ago with an LX w/20mm A* lens. Thistles weren't there 
> at that time, but I worked my way through near shoulder high dry grass and 
> shot from near the front corner of the house.
> I was hoping to get an angle through the front arched iron gate, but found it 
> completely obscured by very thick undergrowth.
>
> Had a critical case of cabin fever and a serious hankerin' to shoot 
> something. It's been too hot this summer to get far from the A/C. Was 111 F 
> recently..."but it's dry heat"..like that makes all the difference.  Right!
>
> Shot this today, it isn't yet 100 F, but will make it this PM.
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=699
>
> K20 (back-up), DA 16~45 at 20mm, f/22, 1/125, ISO 400
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Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013, John Francis wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 09:20:05AM -0700, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>> 
>> You still haven't answered the implied question: are you being literal or
>> figurative?  The only way you could be literally accurate is if there is
>> something wrong, there's just no way for an upgraded Firefox to be a
>> hundred times slower otherwise.  (I don't care how old your computer is,
>> that's essentially irrelevant.)
> 
> Unless, of course, you run out of physical memory, and start thrashing.
> Needing more memory than the machine currently has available can easily
> cause a particular program to run a hundred times slower.
> 
> The older a machine is, the less memory is likely to have been configured
> on it (memory gets significantly cheaper every year).

All true, and I wrote something about that but decided to delete it.
>From my POV, that's still "something wrong", even if semi-expected under
certain circumstances.  Thing is, I loaded up five tabs in Firefox (each
a different site), and it's using <250MB.  I can't imagine someone
seriously into digital photography using a machine so underpowered that
thrashing would show up with that usage.  (Of course, I'm using Linux,
Firefox could be more of a memory hog under Windows.)
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Re: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 14, 2013, at 19:49 , John  wrote:

> As I've mentioned before Google is already more intrusive into my life than 
> I'm comfortable with. I don't care to give them any greater control of my 
> online activities.
> 

You do not have to "log in" to Google to use the Chrome browser.  No more 
intrusive and/or controlling than any other browser.

If you DO choose to use a Google account and "log in" with Chrome, though, you 
can have your bookmarks and history sync across machines - which is kinda kool.

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Fw: PESO: Tarky House

2013-07-27 Thread Jack Davis


- Forwarded Message -
From: Jack Davis 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List  
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: PESO: Tarky House



Shot this several year ago with an LX w/20mm A* lens. Thistles weren't there at 
that time, but I worked my way through near shoulder high dry grass and shot 
from near the front corner of the house.
I was hoping to get an angle through the front arched iron gate, but found it 
completely obscured by very thick undergrowth.

Had a critical case of cabin fever and a serious hankerin' to shoot something. 
It's been too hot this summer to get far from the A/C. Was 111 F 
recently..."but it's dry heat"..like that makes all the difference.  Right!

Shot this today, it isn't yet 100 F, but will make it this PM.

Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=699

K20 (back-up), DA 16~45 at 20mm, f/22, 1/125, ISO 400  

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Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 09:20:05AM -0700, Aahz Maruch wrote:
> 
> You still haven't answered the implied question: are you being literal or
> figurative?  The only way you could be literally accurate is if there is
> something wrong, there's just no way for an upgraded Firefox to be a
> hundred times slower otherwise.  (I don't care how old your computer is,
> that's essentially irrelevant.)

Unless, of course, you run out of physical memory, and start thrashing.
Needing more memory than the machine currently has available can easily
cause a particular program to run a hundred times slower.

The older a machine is, the less memory is likely to have been configured
on it (memory gets significantly cheaper every year).

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Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?

2013-07-27 Thread P.J. Alling
traffics should be graphics the Thunderbird spell checker is trixy and 
capricious.


On 7/27/2013 3:25 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Google tailors adverts based on what you're interested in.  They 
probably have a bunch of different traffics to go with that particular 
ad, and pick which one based on cookies in your browser cache. If you 
ever did a search on Pentax you'll get a lot of Pentax adverts based 
on Google analytics.


On 7/27/2013 10:54 AM, John wrote:

On 7/26/2013 11:48 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

I'd bet that the parts for a lens come from many different sources
that specialize in the part they are producing for such a lens, or
even a camera body.

Ricoh - Pentax may design a lens, but with some in-house exceptions,
the parts, barrel, motors, circuit boards, flat cables, switches, and
parts that require being machined, all are ordered out-sourced.

Look at the Boeing 787, Almost all of it is manufactured around the
world (at least it was originally, until they found out how shoddy
some of the parts were). But everything comes together here in
Everett and their back east (N. Carolina??) factory. Same with the
automobile manufacturing process. It was big news when Apple
announced they would be making the new Mac Pro in the US. Of course,
I think they mean assembling a percentage of it. The same with the
glasses you are wearing to read this. Think the frame designers have
the machines to make the little tiny screws that hold them together?
And you know the optics come from elsewhere, ground from blanks that
come from somewhere else.

Few companies qualify to be shown on "How it's Made" without showing
you that some part of the product is delivered, except maybe the
Swiss Army Knife and the LeatherMan.


On Jul 25, 2013, at 16:14 , David Parsons wrote:


I can't imagine that crowdsourcing is capable of raising enough
money to shut down a production line, retool, and make new
product.





Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com



I think Boeing has some kind of IT facility in Charleston, SC, but I
don't think they manufacture aircraft there. I don't know of any
aircraft manufacturing in the Carolinas, although there's a small
aircraft graveyard & a couple of major overhaul facilities. Bensen
Aircraft used to manufacture autogyros at RDU airport, but they closed
back in the late 80s.

Lockheed Martin has a plant in Atlanta, but I believe it's used strictly
for military aircraft since it's located on Dobbins AFB (Dobbins Joint
Air Reserve Base). I'm pretty sure they still manufacture C-130s there.

I did a quick Google search for the Boeing 787 & it looks like final
assembly might be done in Everett, WA.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57595794-235/boeing-shows-off-first-fully-painted-787-9-dreamliner/ 



The interesting thing about that page is that as you scroll down, a
Pentax K-50 practically leaps off the page at you - lower right "Special
offer for new CNET members" "Learn how to do more with your DSLR". I
don't think they're offering a K-50, just gonna' tell you what to do
with yours.







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Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?

2013-07-27 Thread P.J. Alling
Google tailors adverts based on what you're interested in.  They 
probably have a bunch of different traffics to go with that particular 
ad, and pick which one based on cookies in your browser cache. If you 
ever did a search on Pentax you'll get a lot of Pentax adverts based on 
Google analytics.


On 7/27/2013 10:54 AM, John wrote:

On 7/26/2013 11:48 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

I'd bet that the parts for a lens come from many different sources
that specialize in the part they are producing for such a lens, or
even a camera body.

Ricoh - Pentax may design a lens, but with some in-house exceptions,
the parts, barrel, motors, circuit boards, flat cables, switches, and
parts that require being machined, all are ordered out-sourced.

Look at the Boeing 787, Almost all of it is manufactured around the
world (at least it was originally, until they found out how shoddy
some of the parts were). But everything comes together here in
Everett and their back east (N. Carolina??) factory. Same with the
automobile manufacturing process. It was big news when Apple
announced they would be making the new Mac Pro in the US. Of course,
I think they mean assembling a percentage of it. The same with the
glasses you are wearing to read this. Think the frame designers have
the machines to make the little tiny screws that hold them together?
And you know the optics come from elsewhere, ground from blanks that
come from somewhere else.

Few companies qualify to be shown on "How it's Made" without showing
you that some part of the product is delivered, except maybe the
Swiss Army Knife and the LeatherMan.


On Jul 25, 2013, at 16:14 , David Parsons wrote:


I can't imagine that crowdsourcing is capable of raising enough
money to shut down a production line, retool, and make new
product.





Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com



I think Boeing has some kind of IT facility in Charleston, SC, but I
don't think they manufacture aircraft there. I don't know of any
aircraft manufacturing in the Carolinas, although there's a small
aircraft graveyard & a couple of major overhaul facilities. Bensen
Aircraft used to manufacture autogyros at RDU airport, but they closed
back in the late 80s.

Lockheed Martin has a plant in Atlanta, but I believe it's used strictly
for military aircraft since it's located on Dobbins AFB (Dobbins Joint
Air Reserve Base). I'm pretty sure they still manufacture C-130s there.

I did a quick Google search for the Boeing 787 & it looks like final
assembly might be done in Everett, WA.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57595794-235/boeing-shows-off-first-fully-painted-787-9-dreamliner/ 



The interesting thing about that page is that as you scroll down, a
Pentax K-50 practically leaps off the page at you - lower right "Special
offer for new CNET members" "Learn how to do more with your DSLR". I
don't think they're offering a K-50, just gonna' tell you what to do
with yours.




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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Very creatively broken rule there, Mark. Gorgeous!

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> The wildflowers were amazing throughout the mountains during our trip.
> This scene inspired me to say "I'm gonna break all the rules and shoot
> *into* the sun". (I'm such a rebel...) There was one little flare spot
> that was easily touched up in Lightroom (except for the stitched pano,
> all the shots I've shown from Italy have been Lightroom-processed-only
> - no Photoshop necessary)
>
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dolomite3.jpg
> The Pentax DA 12-24 again.
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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Bruce Walker
Varied and colourful, Don. Enjoyed!

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car nuts
> or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 & 70 mm prime for
> the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.
>
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Re: Cheap extension tubes and reverse lense adaptors (and other photo accessories)

2013-07-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Igor, DealeXtreme (DX) is a well -known store. A friend of mine bought
a Chinese flash for his Nikon cameras. The flash came in with fried
main board but was replaced by the seller. I've ordered from them an
external microphone for my K-5. It passed basic test, but I don't
normally shoot video that often to tell you more.

Over here it is known for being very slow on shipment, which happens
to be free. Right now I'm waiting for usb on the go adapter for my
Nexus 7 and a case for Galia's and mine Kindle.

Personally, I wouldn't want to buy any photo gear from them.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
> I suspect some people might know this source, but some - might not.
> So, I hope it might be useful for somebody.
> http://dx.com - sells a bunch of camera accessories, including
> extension tubes and reverse lense mount adaptors.
> They are not the best quality, but very affordable.
> (Just in case: I remember seeing that some reviewers say that thread
> on some of those was tight, but usable.)
> They also have various lens caps and hoods, color balance caps/cards,
> etc.
>
> http://dx.com/c/cameras-photo-video-1599/lenses-accessories-1523?pageSize=200&page=1
>
> Couple of funny "cameras":
> 1. 5MP camera for IR! - for only
> $23.50:
> http://dx.com/p/cm-8-cmos-5-0mp-high-definition-ir-night-vision-aluminum-alloy-casing-mini-digital-camera-black-224243
> (It has an optical viewfinder, and now screen! - for the purists! :-) )
>
> and
> 2.  $24 micro-sized camera:
> http://dx.com/p/hd-720p-12mp-mini-camera-photograph-video-voice-record-motion-detection-webcam-131040
>
> Disclaimer: you may waste lots of time browsing through this store...
> :-)
>
> HTH,
>
> Igor
>
>
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Cheap extension tubes and reverse lense adaptors (and other photo accessories)

2013-07-27 Thread Igor Roshchin


Hi All,


I suspect some people might know this source, but some - might not.
So, I hope it might be useful for somebody.
http://dx.com - sells a bunch of camera accessories, including 
extension tubes and reverse lense mount adaptors.
They are not the best quality, but very affordable.
(Just in case: I remember seeing that some reviewers say that thread 
on some of those was tight, but usable.)
They also have various lens caps and hoods, color balance caps/cards,
etc.

http://dx.com/c/cameras-photo-video-1599/lenses-accessories-1523?pageSize=200&page=1

Couple of funny "cameras":
1. 5MP camera for IR! - for only
$23.50:
http://dx.com/p/cm-8-cmos-5-0mp-high-definition-ir-night-vision-aluminum-alloy-casing-mini-digital-camera-black-224243
(It has an optical viewfinder, and now screen! - for the purists! :-) )

and 
2.  $24 micro-sized camera:
http://dx.com/p/hd-720p-12mp-mini-camera-photograph-video-voice-record-motion-detection-webcam-131040

Disclaimer: you may waste lots of time browsing through this store...
:-)

HTH,

Igor



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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Sullivan wrote:

>Mark,
>Those flowers really need a big image, maybe a 4x5 negative or a 645 digital,
>at least a very big print.

A whole lot of the shots from this trip need to be printed very big. I
kept thinking to myself "This 12mm lens isn't wide enough..."
 
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Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?

2013-07-27 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:54:00AM -0400, John wrote:
> 
> I did a quick Google search for the Boeing 787 & it looks like final
> assembly might be done in Everett, WA.
> 
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57595794-235/boeing-shows-off-first-fully-painted-787-9-dreamliner/

It is indeed; their aircraft assembly line is, I believe, the
largest enclosed space free of support pillars.

They do public tours - there are viewing galleries.
It's quite impressive.  Even more impressive is the
area where they take prospective customers; it has
full-size mockups of sections of the cabins of all
their aircraft, so they can demonstrate options.
But unless you have several hundred million dollars
available (or happen to be a software supplier to
the demo centre :-) you're unlikely to see that.


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Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,
Are you old enough to remember the cartoon 'Little Abner'.
I think that's where I met Chief Rain-in-the-Face, always
followed around by his own rain clouds.
You need to make yourself a sunnier climate.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:12 AM, John  wrote:
> I *do* understand exactly what "ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE" means. I chose
> those words deliberately and with malice aforethought ...
>
> There's nothing wrong with the computer, it's just old. I was using the
> older version of Firefox because I didn't want all the added overhead
> processing that comes with feature creep in the newer version.
>
> On 7/27/2013 12:01 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, John wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I finally gave in to the badgering & installed the latest version of
>>> Firefox. Got rid of the nag tab, but it ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE slower
>>> to load anything than the previous version I was using.
>>
>>
>> One order of magnitude would be ten times slower.  "Orders" plural means
>> at least two orders of magnitude or more than a hundred times slower.
>> Unless you're being figurative, there's something seriously wrong with
>> your computer that you need to diagnose.  (Firefox has been roughly
>> speed-stable for me since 2.0, maybe even a bit faster over time, but
>> it's hard to separate out varying network effects.)
>>
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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark,
Those flowers really need a big image, maybe a 4x5 negative or a 645 digital,
at least a very big print.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Alan C wrote:
>
>>Vey appealing. Did you wait for the cloud to partially obscure the sun? The
>>jets were obviously camera shy.
>
> I didn't wait for the cloud to come across the sun, but I probably
> wouldn't have taken a shot if there hadn't been some cloud in front of
> the sun at the time. (I normally hate jet contrails spoiling my photos
> but in this case I kind of like them.)
>
>>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dolomite3.jpg
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Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?

2013-07-27 Thread kwaller
I remember an issue a while back where the union/government was trying to 
prevent Boeing from moving some production out of Washington state to S 
Carolina. Apparently the company won.


http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/charleston/

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "John" 

Subject: Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?



On 7/26/2013 11:48 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

I'd bet that the parts for a lens come from many different sources
that specialize in the part they are producing for such a lens, or
even a camera body.

Ricoh - Pentax may design a lens, but with some in-house exceptions,
the parts, barrel, motors, circuit boards, flat cables, switches, and
parts that require being machined, all are ordered out-sourced.

Look at the Boeing 787, Almost all of it is manufactured around the
world (at least it was originally, until they found out how shoddy
some of the parts were). But everything comes together here in
Everett and their back east (N. Carolina??) factory. Same with the
automobile manufacturing process. It was big news when Apple
announced they would be making the new Mac Pro in the US. Of course,
I think they mean assembling a percentage of it. The same with the
glasses you are wearing to read this. Think the frame designers have
the machines to make the little tiny screws that hold them together?
And you know the optics come from elsewhere, ground from blanks that
come from somewhere else.

Few companies qualify to be shown on "How it's Made" without showing
you that some part of the product is delivered, except maybe the
Swiss Army Knife and the LeatherMan.


On Jul 25, 2013, at 16:14 , David Parsons wrote:


I can't imagine that crowdsourcing is capable of raising enough
money to shut down a production line, retool, and make new
product.





Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com



I think Boeing has some kind of IT facility in Charleston, SC, but I
don't think they manufacture aircraft there. I don't know of any
aircraft manufacturing in the Carolinas, although there's a small
aircraft graveyard & a couple of major overhaul facilities. Bensen
Aircraft used to manufacture autogyros at RDU airport, but they closed
back in the late 80s.

Lockheed Martin has a plant in Atlanta, but I believe it's used strictly
for military aircraft since it's located on Dobbins AFB (Dobbins Joint
Air Reserve Base). I'm pretty sure they still manufacture C-130s there.

I did a quick Google search for the Boeing 787 & it looks like final
assembly might be done in Everett, WA.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57595794-235/boeing-shows-off-first-fully-painted-787-9-dreamliner/

The interesting thing about that page is that as you scroll down, a
Pentax K-50 practically leaps off the page at you - lower right "Special
offer for new CNET members" "Learn how to do more with your DSLR". I
don't think they're offering a K-50, just gonna' tell you what to do
with yours.



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Bulk Film Loading - Success!

2013-07-27 Thread Mark C
Thanks for everyone who offered input on bulk film loading. My loader, 
25 empty cannisters and a roll of Kentmere 400 arrived last week. I was 
out of town for work Sun - Thursday but tried my hand at loading 
yesterday.  The only mistake I made is that I did not clean the felt 
light trap on the LLoyds loader before putting the roll in. I never even 
thought of it, as it was brand new and out of sealed plastic bag and box 
- but there was bit of grit on the felt and the first foot or two of 
film were scratched quite a bit, after that it seemed to work itself 
out. Otherwise, not problems and I loaded up 4 rolls and shot out one 
just to test. My scanning computer is in for repairs so  I set up a 
temporary system with a laptop and Canonscan FS 4000 - running blazingly 
fast through it's USB 1.1 interface (no SCSI port on the laptop.) It is 
slow but functional and the first scans are looking good.


Now to start loading up the freezer with 100' bulk rolls...

Mark

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Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush

2013-07-27 Thread kwaller

It seems a bit fuzzier than the pictures you usually post.


MARK!

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- Original Message - 
Subject: Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush




http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17461377


Looks like a bee bush to me!

More seriously, is that heavily cropped or out-of-focus or what?  It
seems a bit fuzzier than the pictures you usually post.



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OT - Plus -X Film Available

2013-07-27 Thread Mark C
A little while ago the topic of Plus-X film came up. I just stumbled 
into this:


http://www.ultrafineonline.com/kopl125bwfi3.html

At $6.98 per roll it is a bit too pricey for me (I have a dozen roll in 
the freezer already) but if anyone wants to get some it seems like they 
have it.


This place also sells a house film called Ultrafine Xtreme which is 
rumored to be re-branded Kentmere. I don't know if that is true or not 
but the films look exactly the same and my preliminary tests (I've only 
tried 2 rolls and only in Rodinal) have yeilded very consistent results 
between the two. The published times for the films are significantly 
different - but, for Rodinal 1:50 at least, the published time for the 
Ultrafine seems significantly too short.


Mark


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Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:

> You still haven't answered the implied question: are you being literal or
> figurative?  The only way you could be literally accurate is if there is
> something wrong, there's just no way for an upgraded Firefox to be a
> hundred times slower otherwise.  (I don't care how old your computer is,
> that's essentially irrelevant.)

I switched to Chrome a year or two ago because a Firefox upgrade made
tab-switching dramatically slower. From imperceptible to perhaps
0.5-1.0 second to draw the tab I switched to. I'm talking about UI
responsiveness for tabs that were already loaded, so it wasn't a
network issue. It happened on both my home computer and my work-issued
laptop.

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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Alan C wrote:

>Vey appealing. Did you wait for the cloud to partially obscure the sun? The 
>jets were obviously camera shy.

I didn't wait for the cloud to come across the sun, but I probably
wouldn't have taken a shot if there hadn't been some cloud in front of
the sun at the time. (I normally hate jet contrails spoiling my photos
but in this case I kind of like them.)

>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dolomite3.jpg

 
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Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013, John wrote:
> On 7/27/2013 12:01 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, John wrote:
>>>
>>>I finally gave in to the badgering & installed the latest version of
>>>Firefox. Got rid of the nag tab, but it ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE slower
>>>to load anything than the previous version I was using.
>>
>>One order of magnitude would be ten times slower.  "Orders" plural means
>>at least two orders of magnitude or more than a hundred times slower.
>>Unless you're being figurative, there's something seriously wrong with
>>your computer that you need to diagnose.  (Firefox has been roughly
>>speed-stable for me since 2.0, maybe even a bit faster over time, but
>>it's hard to separate out varying network effects.)
>
> I *do* understand exactly what "ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE" means. I chose
> those words deliberately and with malice aforethought ...
> 
> There's nothing wrong with the computer, it's just old. I was using the
> older version of Firefox because I didn't want all the added overhead
> processing that comes with feature creep in the newer version.

You still haven't answered the implied question: are you being literal or
figurative?  The only way you could be literally accurate is if there is
something wrong, there's just no way for an upgraded Firefox to be a
hundred times slower otherwise.  (I don't care how old your computer is,
that's essentially irrelevant.)
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Re: OT: Firefox - a follow up

2013-07-27 Thread John

I *do* understand exactly what "ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE" means. I chose
those words deliberately and with malice aforethought ...

There's nothing wrong with the computer, it's just old. I was using the
older version of Firefox because I didn't want all the added overhead
processing that comes with feature creep in the newer version.

On 7/27/2013 12:01 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013, John wrote:


I finally gave in to the badgering & installed the latest version of
Firefox. Got rid of the nag tab, but it ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE slower
to load anything than the previous version I was using.


One order of magnitude would be ten times slower.  "Orders" plural means
at least two orders of magnitude or more than a hundred times slower.
Unless you're being figurative, there's something seriously wrong with
your computer that you need to diagnose.  (Firefox has been roughly
speed-stable for me since 2.0, maybe even a bit faster over time, but
it's hard to separate out varying network effects.)




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Re: What if Pentax did a Kickstarter?

2013-07-27 Thread John

On 7/26/2013 11:48 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

I'd bet that the parts for a lens come from many different sources
that specialize in the part they are producing for such a lens, or
even a camera body.

Ricoh - Pentax may design a lens, but with some in-house exceptions,
the parts, barrel, motors, circuit boards, flat cables, switches, and
parts that require being machined, all are ordered out-sourced.

Look at the Boeing 787, Almost all of it is manufactured around the
world (at least it was originally, until they found out how shoddy
some of the parts were). But everything comes together here in
Everett and their back east (N. Carolina??) factory. Same with the
automobile manufacturing process. It was big news when Apple
announced they would be making the new Mac Pro in the US. Of course,
I think they mean assembling a percentage of it. The same with the
glasses you are wearing to read this. Think the frame designers have
the machines to make the little tiny screws that hold them together?
And you know the optics come from elsewhere, ground from blanks that
come from somewhere else.

Few companies qualify to be shown on "How it's Made" without showing
you that some part of the product is delivered, except maybe the
Swiss Army Knife and the LeatherMan.


On Jul 25, 2013, at 16:14 , David Parsons wrote:


I can't imagine that crowdsourcing is capable of raising enough
money to shut down a production line, retool, and make new
product.





Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com



I think Boeing has some kind of IT facility in Charleston, SC, but I
don't think they manufacture aircraft there. I don't know of any
aircraft manufacturing in the Carolinas, although there's a small
aircraft graveyard & a couple of major overhaul facilities. Bensen
Aircraft used to manufacture autogyros at RDU airport, but they closed
back in the late 80s.

Lockheed Martin has a plant in Atlanta, but I believe it's used strictly
for military aircraft since it's located on Dobbins AFB (Dobbins Joint
Air Reserve Base). I'm pretty sure they still manufacture C-130s there.

I did a quick Google search for the Boeing 787 & it looks like final
assembly might be done in Everett, WA.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57595794-235/boeing-shows-off-first-fully-painted-787-9-dreamliner/ 



The interesting thing about that page is that as you scroll down, a
Pentax K-50 practically leaps off the page at you - lower right "Special
offer for new CNET members" "Learn how to do more with your DSLR". I
don't think they're offering a K-50, just gonna' tell you what to do
with yours.

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Re: PESO: René Magritte, Postmaster General

2013-07-27 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:07 AM, David Mann  wrote:

>> http://abattoir5.com/picture.php?/350
>
> :)
>
> First thing I thought of with that title was the Paul Simon song.

Which was, itself, named after a photograph!

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Re: OT: "Why Digital is Dead for me in Street Photography"

2013-07-27 Thread John

On 7/26/2013 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Rob Studdert wrote:


I nearly had to resort to a barf-bag on reading that article, he
sounds like a reformed smoker or a born again...


I didn't even look at it because I expected as much. I genuinely
like a lot of street photography (Juan Buhler and Frank Theriault
being amongst my favorite practitioners!) but I've noticed that the
people who are good at it tend not to write about it and the people
who write about it tend to give my dry heaves.




I got as far as him teaching a street photography workshop in Tokyo
where someone gave him a Leica M6.

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Re: PESO: René Magritte, Postmaster General

2013-07-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Non?

fun shot, Matthew and good title too

ann

On 7/27/2013 01:07, David Mann wrote:

On Jul 27, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:


http://abattoir5.com/picture.php?/350


:)

First thing I thought of with that title was the Paul Simon song.

Cheers,
Dave





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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Ann Sanfedele

What, no Chevy Bel Aire? :-)

fun to look at, and try to remember names of them from the logos

I see you moved to smugmug Don, hope you are liking it

ann


On 7/27/2013 03:46, Alan C wrote:

Very nostalgic. The nuts must have bolted.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Don Guthrie
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:56 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car
nuts or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 & 70 mm
prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique
or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR



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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-27 Thread Alan C

Very nostalgic. The nuts must have bolted.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Don Guthrie

Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:56 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car
nuts or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 & 70 mm
prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique
or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

2013-07-27 Thread Alan C
Vey appealing. Did you wait for the cloud to partially obscure the sun? The 
jets were obviously camera shy.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Mark Roberts

Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:13 AM
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Subject: Another shot from Italy: Wildflowers

The wildflowers were amazing throughout the mountains during our trip.
This scene inspired me to say "I'm gonna break all the rules and shoot
*into* the sun". (I'm such a rebel...) There was one little flare spot
that was easily touched up in Lightroom (except for the stitched pano,
all the shots I've shown from Italy have been Lightroom-processed-only
- no Photoshop necessary)

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dolomite3.jpg
The Pentax DA 12-24 again.

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