Here in London. Ready for the PDML Milton Keynes meeting tomorrow.

2014-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts

Having a coffee in a traditional bistro. Well, all right, it's a Starbucks. 
Still tastes good after a 6-hour flight and a long ride on the tube.

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Re: PESOs: polar vortex + window

2014-01-11 Thread Bob W
On 11 Jan 2014, at 01:27, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 on 2014-01-09 18:47 Christine Nielsen wrote
 In a lovely change of pace today, I got to just mess around with my
 camera  the 100mm macro ...  These are no Cassinos, but I thought I'd
 share some of the early results ...
 
 http://www.christinenielsen.com/sharing/h67a1511#h67a1511
 
 wow, you must have good windows!
 
 my eye wants to go in to even finer detail

They're fractals, so it's turtles all the way down :o)

B
 - are those at full magnification? (btw, a 200mm Macro would not produce a 
 much different image if it is also 1:1, it just wouldn't need to be as close 
 to the glass)
 
 

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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Bob W
Thanks!

 On 11 Jan 2014, at 01:48, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Excellent!  Besides the atmosphere and nice rendering, I love the layers in 
 this pic: the car, the man and facade, and the woman behind the window on the 
 right.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick
 
 
  
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
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 Subject: Italy in the UK
 
 Found this while rooting around among old photos in LR.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fiat.jpg
 
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Re: PESO - Subway Sleeper

2014-01-11 Thread Attila Boros
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 6:35 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jan 11, 2014, at 7:27 am, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Modern life, I guess. We're all so over-tired we nap whenever we can, 
 sometimes in the midst of tumult:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/01/subway-somnambulist.html?m=1

 Seems risky to me, you never know where you're going to wake up.

I was about to post the same remark.

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Re: Here in London. Ready for the PDML Milton Keynes meeting tomorrow.

2014-01-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/1/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Having a coffee in a traditional bistro. Well, all right, it's a
Starbucks. Still tastes good after a 6-hour flight and a long ride on
the tube.

Tell Chris you demand to see the concrete cows.

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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread mike wilson
On 11/01/2014, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 Very good. Great to see a proper Fiat 500 and not one of those new
 fangled ones...

 Chris

I hate to be a pedant 8-) but a real Fiat 500 is a Topolino.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Fiat500topolino.jpg
All following models are shabby in comparison.  It's an excellently
emotive photo, though.


 On 11 January 2014 00:09, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Found this while rooting around among old photos in LR.

 http://www.web-options.com/Fiat.jpg

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Re: Here in London. Ready for the PDML Milton Keynes meeting tomorrow.

2014-01-11 Thread Attila Boros
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 On 11/1/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Having a coffee in a traditional bistro. Well, all right, it's a
Starbucks. Still tastes good after a 6-hour flight and a long ride on
the tube.

 Tell Chris you demand to see the concrete cows.

Perhaps he is making an alternative cover art for this album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyRJzdKUho0

Have a good time, go to an Italian coffee shop and enjoy a proper espresso:)

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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Attila Boros
The pose and expression of that guy is awesome! This would be an
excellent ad for Fiat cars. Sadly they don't make good ads anymore.

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Found this while rooting around among old photos in LR.

 http://www.web-options.com/Fiat.jpg

 B

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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Bob W
Thanks. When I saw the scene I immediately thought of the much better photo by 
William Klein, the second one on this page:

http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/in-focus-william-klein/?_r=0

B

 On 11 Jan 2014, at 11:43, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The pose and expression of that guy is awesome! This would be an
 excellent ad for Fiat cars. Sadly they don't make good ads anymore.
 
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Found this while rooting around among old photos in LR.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fiat.jpg
 
 B
 
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Re: GESO 2014 - 002-019 - GDG

2014-01-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thank you all for the comments and compliments! :-)

Godfrey

 From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 
 #2, 8  16 do it for me, Godfrey.

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 
 very nice gallery.

 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 
 Excellent set. The very first one and the very last one might be my 
 favorites. But all quite nice.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/11869521145/


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Re: Here in London. Ready for the PDML Milton Keynes meeting tomorrow.

2014-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv
wrote:

 On 11/1/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Having a coffee in a traditional bistro. Well, all right, it's a
Starbucks. Still tastes good after a 6-hour flight and a long ride on
the tube.

 Tell Chris you demand to see the concrete cows.

Perhaps he is making an alternative cover art for this album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyRJzdKUho0

Have a good time, go to an Italian coffee shop and enjoy a proper
espresso:)

There's an Italian coffee shop near our hotel and a good French patisserie 
across the road that makes excellent espresso. It's been a couple of years 
since we went to the French place so we'll have to go again to make sure they 
haven't slipped.

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Re: It's not the camera

2014-01-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Have you ever noticed that the more money someone has invested in photo
 gear, the more likely they are to say It's not the camera, it's the 
 photographer?

I wish you had of told me that a few years ago. I was under this more
is better spell for some time, and bought over 16K of DSLR's between
2001 and 2011. These are now worth a combined $1800.00.:-) (and thats
all i can do is just smile about it.)

Dave

 So, if it's not the camera, now that K-3 prices have dropped a bit,
 why do I want a K-3 so badly?  It's not like I'll get any better photos.

 Seriously though, I really am planning on waiting to see what the next
 thing they have in store is before committing.

 On the subject of spending money on gear, I ended up returning my 13
 macbook pro.  It turns out that the screen was just too small for
 comfortably editing photos.  It turns out that there are three versions
 of the 15 available (at least refurbbed).

 1) The retina screen is the only one available at stores.  You lose a
 firewire port, but gain a second thunderbolt port.  You lose the
 optical drive and get an HDMI port.
 The big drawback, other than cost, is that the memory is soldered in,
 so you pay the apple tax on RAM, since you can't upgrade on your own.

 2) Low res  1440x900 pixels

 3) High res 1680x1050, this seems to be the one to get, but the
 inexpensive ones seem to be gone from the apple store as of today,
 all of the ones left charge the apple tax on memory and drive.

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Re: It's not the camera

2014-01-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I think in my case it's often all about the camera: 
The older, the crappier the camera I am using, the more I enjoy squeezing 
interesting photographs out of it. 

I have a LOT of old crappy cameras. Also a lot of old nice cameras. And a 
couple of nice modern cameras too. 

Eh? ... It's all about the photographer. And his minions …

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/minions.jpg

 ]'-)

G

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 Have you ever noticed that the more money someone has invested in photo 
 gear, the more likely they are to say It's not the camera, it's the 
 photographer?


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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Ken Waller

Nicely done - showing half of a half car.

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From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Italy in the UK



On Jan 11, 2014, at 1:09 pm, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:


Found this while rooting around among old photos in LR.

http://www.web-options.com/Fiat.jpg


Love it, especially the window.

Cheers,
Dave



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Peso: Duck Soup

2014-01-11 Thread Jack Davis


Tried the state wildlife area yesterday. Fog had set in fairly heavily and made 
it a soupy day.
As the fog began to rise a bit, I tried some ducks huddled in some tall 
straight grasses.
Messed with the composition for some time and finally gave it up feeling only 
slightly 
satisfied with the result.

Jack

Comments welcome.

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=750


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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Stanley Halpin
I prefer your version.

stan

On Jan 11, 2014, at 7:30 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Thanks. When I saw the scene I immediately thought of the much better photo 
 by William Klein, the second one on this page:
 
 http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/in-focus-william-klein/?_r=0
 
 B
 
 On 11 Jan 2014, at 11:43, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The pose and expression of that guy is awesome! This would be an
 excellent ad for Fiat cars. Sadly they don't make good ads anymore.
 
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Found this while rooting around among old photos in LR.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fiat.jpg
 
 B


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Re: PESO - Subway Sleeper

2014-01-11 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:35 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jan 11, 2014, at 7:27 am, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 Modern life, I guess. We're all so over-tired we nap whenever we can, 
 sometimes in the midst of tumult:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/01/subway-somnambulist.html?m=1

 Seems risky to me, you never know where you're going to wake up.

Minimal risk. The subway lines aren't all that long in Toronto and are
all bidirectional. If you oversleep and go a few stops past, you can
cross over to the other direction and go back.

Reading carries the same risk. I was buried in a good SF once, got
onto the subway going east (I live west) and read until the train
arrived at the last eastward stop and the driver and conductor got
off. :-)

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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Attila Boros
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Thanks. When I saw the scene I immediately thought of the much better photo 
 by William Klein, the second one on this page:

 http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/in-focus-william-klein/?_r=0

That is more carefully framed, but your guy trumps it. What really
grabs me on that page is the fourth image of the two women on the
crosswalk.

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Re: OT: snowblower

2014-01-11 Thread Mark C
I almost bought a snow blower earlier this wintet, but got a Yooper 
Scooper instead. The only part of shoveling that I didn't like was 
dealing with drifts and the piles that the snow plow leaves - you can 
move a lot of snow with one of those scoops. Eh!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HZQhcz6m9w

Mark

On 1/10/2014 9:22 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I have used my snow blower a lot this year, but I try not to start before 7:00

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:00 AM, CollinB coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:


I have a snow blower and I am not afraid to use it. Even at 6:30 a.m.
A friend just said There is a reward in heaven for you!  Perhaps he was
being sarcastic.
I am also presuming heaven. My neighbors might presume otherwise.

I bet my diesel tractor is louder, and I clear the snow with it at
about the same time. Whatever. Gotta be able to get to work.

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Re: PESO - Southerlies

2014-01-11 Thread John

On 1/10/2014 1:42 PM, knarf wrote:

I don't know how far mallards normally migrate. All I know is these
guys decided to winter here, which may not have been a wise choice.



The ones wintering over there probably migrated south from Hudson Bay.

The ones you normally see in the summer around there are probably the
ones I see around here in the winter, while OUR regular summer
complement of mallards are enjoying the weather in southern Mexico about
now.

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Re: OT: How Cold is it in Canada?

2014-01-11 Thread John

On 1/10/2014 2:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 8/1/14, John, discombobulated, unleashed:


Twenty inches ain't nothin'! We get that every winter.


So presumably there's a birthrate hike every fall?



Could be. But you'd have to ask someone from up north to be sure.

Around here a quarter inch of snow is a disaster, but peak hurricane
season in September is what usually causes extended electrical blackouts.

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PESO - Mt St Michel landward view

2014-01-11 Thread Rick Womer
From the ramparts, at mid-tide.  The difference between high and low tide can 
exceed 40 ft/12m, and the gradual slope makes the incoming tide impossible to 
outrun.

On the horizon is the sort of torrential rainstorm that bedeviled us all day.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17641594size=lg

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17641594-lg.jpg

Comments?

Rick

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Re: OT: snowblower

2014-01-11 Thread John

An electric lawnmower wouldn't make a lot of noise?

On 1/10/2014 11:00 AM, Alan C wrote:

I know how they must feel. The guy over the roads here cuts his grass
with an electric mower every Sat at 04:00am illuminated by a streetlight!

Alan C

-Original Message- From: CollinB
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:00 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT: snowblower

I have a snow blower and I am not afraid to use it. Even at 6:30 a.m.
A friend just said There is a reward in heaven for you!  Perhaps he was
being sarcastic.
I am also presuming heaven. My neighbors might presume otherwise.

Collin





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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Thanks. When I saw the scene I immediately thought of the much better photo 
 by William Klein, the second one on this page:

 http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/in-focus-william-klein/?_r=0

 That is more carefully framed, but your guy trumps it. What really
 grabs me on that page is the fourth image of the two women on the
 crosswalk.

That was a staged fashion shoot for Vogue. Klein was a pioneer in
putting his models in the street. He gave the models general
instructions like, walk back and forth in that crosswalk, then shot
from a distance with a tele. There's a long but great doc about him on
Youtube.

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Re: PESOs: polar vortex + window

2014-01-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow! Absolutely beautiful, Christine.  Hard to pick a favorite, but if forced, 
I’d say the first and the last.  Wow.  I love these!  Great eye, Christine

Big cheers, Christine/Chicago


On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:

 Ok... take two... this time I'll try not to  hit send before I get
 to the second sentence...
 
 As I was saying... Happy new year!
 
 Been a while since I've had a chance to stop by, hopefully I'll have
 more opportunity in the quiet winter months to see what you're all up
 to...
 
 In a lovely change of pace today, I got to just mess around with my
 camera  the 100mm macro ...  These are no Cassinos, but I thought I'd
 share some of the early results ...
 
 http://www.christinenielsen.com/sharing/h67a1511#h67a1511
 
 (there are four, start here, click to the right to scroll through)
 
 :)
 -c
 
 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 [waits for the other shoe to drop ...]
 
 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
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Re: OT: How Cold is it in Canada?

2014-01-11 Thread Bill

On 11/01/2014 1:45 PM, John wrote:

On 1/10/2014 2:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 8/1/14, John, discombobulated, unleashed:


Twenty inches ain't nothin'! We get that every winter.


So presumably there's a birthrate hike every fall?



Could be. But you'd have to ask someone from up north to be sure.

Around here a quarter inch of snow is a disaster, but peak hurricane
season in September is what usually causes extended electrical blackouts.

A quarter inch of snow is a light dusting. Last winter we set a snowfall 
record of around 7 feet of accumulation (as in it fell and stayed around 
until spring thaw).


We felt that was enough snow. Low clearance 4 wheel drives were getting 
stuck in front of my house from around mid November until sometime in May.


bill


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Re: PESO - Subway Sleeper

2014-01-11 Thread John

On 1/10/2014 6:05 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

I've never understood the ability to fall asleep wherever  whenever.
My husband can do it ... is it a skill or a liability...?

:)
-c


Something I *learned* in the Army.

Never stand up when you can sit down.
Never sit up when you can lie down.
Never stay awake when you can sleep.



On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 1:27 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Modern life, I guess. We're all so over-tired we nap whenever we can, sometimes 
in the midst of tumult:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/01/subway-somnambulist.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Subway Sleeper

2014-01-11 Thread John

On 1/10/2014 11:35 PM, David Mann wrote:

On Jan 11, 2014, at 7:27 am, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:


Modern life, I guess. We're all so over-tired we nap whenever we can, sometimes 
in the midst of tumult:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2014/01/subway-somnambulist.html?m=1


Seems risky to me, you never know where you're going to wake up.


That's where the fun is.

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Re: Here in London. Ready for the PDML Milton Keynes meeting tomorrow.

2014-01-11 Thread John

On 1/11/2014 6:01 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 11/1/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:


Having a coffee in a traditional bistro. Well, all right, it's a
Starbucks. Still tastes good after a 6-hour flight and a long ride on
the tube.


Tell Chris you demand to see the concrete cows.



Be very careful if you find more than six.

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Re: Here in London. Ready for the PDML Milton Keynes meeting tomorrow.

2014-01-11 Thread John

YooToob sez: This video is not available in your country.

On 1/11/2014 6:38 AM, Attila Boros wrote:

On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:


On 11/1/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:


Having a coffee in a traditional bistro. Well, all right, it's a
Starbucks. Still tastes good after a 6-hour flight and a long ride on
the tube.


Tell Chris you demand to see the concrete cows.


Perhaps he is making an alternative cover art for this album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyRJzdKUho0

Have a good time, go to an Italian coffee shop and enjoy a proper espresso:)



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Re: OT: How Cold is it in Canada?

2014-01-11 Thread John

On 1/11/2014 3:21 PM, Bill wrote:

On 11/01/2014 1:45 PM, John wrote:

On 1/10/2014 2:05 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 8/1/14, John, discombobulated, unleashed:


Twenty inches ain't nothin'! We get that every winter.


So presumably there's a birthrate hike every fall?



Could be. But you'd have to ask someone from up north to be sure.

Around here a quarter inch of snow is a disaster, but peak hurricane
season in September is what usually causes extended electrical blackouts.


A quarter inch of snow is a light dusting. Last winter we set a snowfall
record of around 7 feet of accumulation (as in it fell and stayed around
until spring thaw).

We felt that was enough snow. Low clearance 4 wheel drives were getting
stuck in front of my house from around mid November until sometime in May.

bill




It's all in what you're used to. Around here we don't get much snow.
Even small amounts cause us more problems.

OTOH, we've had many hurricanes, so we bounce back from them fairly
quickly.

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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Dario Bonazza

Good, I like the subjects and how they 'interact' nicely!
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
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Subject: Italy in the UK

Found this while rooting around among old photos in LR.

http://www.web-options.com/Fiat.jpg

B

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A new set - ARTEritivo

2014-01-11 Thread Dario Bonazza

Hi all,
If interested, you can find a new set of mine here, shot in a bistrot at 
evenings:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/sets/72157639658025646/
They are mostly shot with 31mm Ltd and 77mm Ltd lenses, which are 
responsible for the nice bokeh (when applicable).
Comments welcome (but I'm going to see them and reply on Monday, as I'll 
have one day out on Sunday).
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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Bob W
You silver-tongued smoothy, you!

B

 On 11 Jan 2014, at 18:44, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 
 I prefer your version.
 
 stan
 
 On Jan 11, 2014, at 7:30 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. When I saw the scene I immediately thought of the much better photo 
 by William Klein, the second one on this page:
 
 http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/in-focus-william-klein/?_r=0
 
 B
 
 On 11 Jan 2014, at 11:43, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The pose and expression of that guy is awesome! This would be an
 excellent ad for Fiat cars. Sadly they don't make good ads anymore.
 
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Found this while rooting around among old photos in LR.
 
 http://www.web-options.com/Fiat.jpg
 
 B
 
 

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Re: A new set - ARTEritivo

2014-01-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
BTW, ARTEritivo is meant something like ARTritif, or an 'aperitif (cocktail) 
with some kind of art'.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Dario Bonazza

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:02 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: A new set - ARTEritivo

Hi all,
If interested, you can find a new set of mine here, shot in a bistrot at
evenings:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/sets/72157639658025646/
They are mostly shot with 31mm Ltd and 77mm Ltd lenses, which are
responsible for the nice bokeh (when applicable).
Comments welcome (but I'm going to see them and reply on Monday, as I'll
have one day out on Sunday).
Dario


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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Bob W
On 11 Jan 2014, at 19:05, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 Thanks. When I saw the scene I immediately thought of the much better photo 
 by William Klein, the second one on this page:
 
 http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/in-focus-william-klein/?_r=0
 
 That is more carefully framed, but your guy trumps it. What really
 grabs me on that page is the fourth image of the two women on the
 crosswalk.
 

Klein is a great photographer. That shot of the women may be a fashion shoot 
rather than something he grabbed.

He's also a great film-maker, or at least operator. He art-directed 'Zazie dans 
le metro' (Louis Malle) and his style is immediately recognisable.

B
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Re: A new set - ARTEritivo

2014-01-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
Lots of atmosphere, pleasing wRm tones. Well done!

Paul via phone

 On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 If interested, you can find a new set of mine here, shot in a bistrot at 
 evenings:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/sets/72157639658025646/
 They are mostly shot with 31mm Ltd and 77mm Ltd lenses, which are responsible 
 for the nice bokeh (when applicable).
 Comments welcome (but I'm going to see them and reply on Monday, as I'll have 
 one day out on Sunday).
 Dario 
 
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Re: PESO - Mt St Michel landward view

2014-01-11 Thread Bob W
Very nice. Time and and torrential rain. Terrible place to forget your wet 
weather clothes.

B

 On 11 Jan 2014, at 19:50, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 From the ramparts, at mid-tide.  The difference between high and low tide can 
 exceed 40 ft/12m, and the gradual slope makes the incoming tide impossible to 
 outrun.
 
 On the horizon is the sort of torrential rainstorm that bedeviled us all day.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17641594size=lg
 
 or
 
 http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17641594-lg.jpg
 
 Comments?
 
 Rick
 
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Re: OT: snowblower

2014-01-11 Thread Bob W
South Africans must have changed since I was there in 1998. We all came back to 
where we were staying in Cape Town after a stag night, arriving home at the 
same time as the women from their hen party, so we all continued on the roof 
until about 3am when there was a shout from the street. We looked down to see a 
heavily-bearded Boer type in his pyjamas, carrying a hunting rifle, who shouted 
up at us in a strong Afrikaans accent if you lot don't bloody shut up right 
now I'm going to come up there and shoot you all!.

We shut up.

B

 On 11 Jan 2014, at 19:54, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 An electric lawnmower wouldn't make a lot of noise?
 
 On 1/10/2014 11:00 AM, Alan C wrote:
 I know how they must feel. The guy over the roads here cuts his grass
 with an electric mower every Sat at 04:00am illuminated by a streetlight!
 
 Alan C
 
 -Original Message- From: CollinB
 Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:00 PM
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: snowblower
 
 I have a snow blower and I am not afraid to use it. Even at 6:30 a.m.
 A friend just said There is a reward in heaven for you!  Perhaps he was
 being sarcastic.
 I am also presuming heaven. My neighbors might presume otherwise.
 
 Collin

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Re: A new set - ARTEritivo

2014-01-11 Thread Dario Bonazza

Also, I undertsnad that not everybody will like the different renderings.
However, please consider each subset as a small selection of a larger work, 
hence a set in its own.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Dario Bonazza

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:02 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: A new set - ARTEritivo

Hi all,
If interested, you can find a new set of mine here, shot in a bistrot at
evenings:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/sets/72157639658025646/
They are mostly shot with 31mm Ltd and 77mm Ltd lenses, which are
responsible for the nice bokeh (when applicable).
Comments welcome (but I'm going to see them and reply on Monday, as I'll
have one day out on Sunday).
Dario


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Re: A new set - ARTEritivo

2014-01-11 Thread Dario Bonazza

Thanks Paul.
Do you love/hate any picture or rendering in particular?
I'm trying to understand whether such 'zoomed' or 'bleach bypass' pictures 
are either appreciated or rather seen as excessive.

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Paul Stenquist

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 10:19 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: A new set - ARTEritivo

Lots of atmosphere, pleasing wRm tones. Well done!

Paul via phone

On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it 
wrote:


Hi all,
If interested, you can find a new set of mine here, shot in a bistrot at 
evenings:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/sets/72157639658025646/
They are mostly shot with 31mm Ltd and 77mm Ltd lenses, which are 
responsible for the nice bokeh (when applicable).
Comments welcome (but I'm going to see them and reply on Monday, as I'll 
have one day out on Sunday).

Dario

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January PUG is up - it's cold outside....

2014-01-11 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

A great gallery to kick off 2014.

As usual it's hard to pick favourites but maybe Thrainn's 'Horses in  
Winter' and Jan's 'Too Cold for Comfort'.


Interesting that Ann and Phillip both submitted shots taken on film  
and both used the KX.



As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not  
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the  
gallery, let me know.


+

For February we have 'Feathered Friends' - so all you ornithologists  
and fan-dancing aficionados should have no problems...


Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.

* Nominal closing date: 30 September.

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Western Sydney Australia
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21st Century first world problems

2014-01-11 Thread Larry Colen
It seems that when the magic smoked leaked out of my power supply the other
night not only did I destroy over four billion operations per second of 
processor, but I also fried 16 Terabytes of storage. It is, of course, 
rather upsetting, but also inspiring in that welcome to the 21st Century
kind of way.


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Re: January PUG is up - it's cold outside....

2014-01-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Lovely gallery - I like 'em all, truly
But Thrain's Horses In Winter is my personal favorite followed closely 
by Bob Sullivan's A Cold Walk - perfect decisive moment and beautiful 
scene - makes me homesick too.


ann

On 1/11/2014 16:42, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

A great gallery to kick off 2014.

As usual it's hard to pick favourites but maybe Thrainn's 'Horses in
Winter' and Jan's 'Too Cold for Comfort'.

Interesting that Ann and Phillip both submitted shots taken on film and
both used the KX.


As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

For February we have 'Feathered Friends' - so all you ornithologists and
fan-dancing aficionados should have no problems...

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
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Re: 21st Century first world problems

2014-01-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele

That puts the few GB's I lost into perspective!
Condolences..

ann


On 1/11/2014 16:47, Larry Colen wrote:

It seems that when the magic smoked leaked out of my power supply the other
night not only did I destroy over four billion operations per second of
processor, but I also fried 16 Terabytes of storage. It is, of course,
rather upsetting, but also inspiring in that welcome to the 21st Century
kind of way.




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Re: Here in London. Ready for the PDML Milton Keynes meeting tomorrow.

2014-01-11 Thread Attila Boros
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:42 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

 YooToob sez: This video is not available in your country.

Outrageous! It's Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother, and the cover art is
a cow standing in a grass field.

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Re: A new set - ARTEritivo

2014-01-11 Thread Attila Boros
Nice gallery.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/11893649944/in/set-72157639658025646
I like the geometry created by the frame of your photo and the frame
of the paintings. DOF is perfect.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/11893530673/in/set-72157639658025646
This is my favorite, she is totally immersed in singing and has a
lovely expression.



On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 Hi all,
 If interested, you can find a new set of mine here, shot in a bistrot at
 evenings:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/sets/72157639658025646/
 They are mostly shot with 31mm Ltd and 77mm Ltd lenses, which are
 responsible for the nice bokeh (when applicable).
 Comments welcome (but I'm going to see them and reply on Monday, as I'll
 have one day out on Sunday).
 Dario

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Re: It's not the camera

2014-01-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 07:28:00AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 I think in my case it's often all about the camera: 
 The older, the crappier the camera I am using, the more I enjoy squeezing 
 interesting photographs out of it. 
 
 I have a LOT of old crappy cameras. Also a lot of old nice cameras. And a 
 couple of nice modern cameras too. 
 
 Eh? ... It's all about the photographer. And his minions …
 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/minions.jpg

In chemsitry, they taught us about cations and anions. What sort of 
charge do minions have?


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Re: It's not the camera

2014-01-11 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 05:31:57PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 07:28:00AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
  I think in my case it's often all about the camera: 
  The older, the crappier the camera I am using, the more I enjoy squeezing 
  interesting photographs out of it. 
  
  I have a LOT of old crappy cameras. Also a lot of old nice cameras. And a 
  couple of nice modern cameras too. 
  
  Eh? ... It's all about the photographer. And his minions …
  
  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/minions.jpg
 
 In chemsitry, they taught us about cations and anions. What sort of 
 charge do minions have?

And, of course the obligatory...

A cation walks into a bar and says I think I lost an electron.
The bartender asks Are you sure?.
I'm positive.

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Re: January PUG is up - it's cold outside....

2014-01-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Terrific gallery. I most enjoyed Ken Waller's Bud, and Thrainn
Vigfusson's Horses.


On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 G'day all

 A great gallery to kick off 2014.

 As usual it's hard to pick favourites but maybe Thrainn's 'Horses in Winter'
 and Jan's 'Too Cold for Comfort'.

 Interesting that Ann and Phillip both submitted shots taken on film and both
 used the KX.


 As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/

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 gallery, let me know.

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Re: A new set - ARTEritivo

2014-01-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Very good documents of the events (I assume multiple events?). I'm not
partial to the zoomed shots among documentary ones, but they are well
done. I have no complaints with your varied treatments of these.


On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 Hi all,
 If interested, you can find a new set of mine here, shot in a bistrot at
 evenings:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/sets/72157639658025646/
 They are mostly shot with 31mm Ltd and 77mm Ltd lenses, which are
 responsible for the nice bokeh (when applicable).
 Comments welcome (but I'm going to see them and reply on Monday, as I'll
 have one day out on Sunday).
 Dario

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Re: A new set - ARTEritivo

2014-01-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Lovely gallery, Dario - but I have a couple of strong favorites -

The unusual take on the harpist..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/11893564373/in/set-72157639658025646/

And, yes, that closeup of her singing in profile that Attila mentioned

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/11893530673/in/set-72157639658025646/

and this BW - is that for a possible album/cd cover?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/11893551143/in/set-72157639658025646/

ann





On 1/11/2014 18:15, Attila Boros wrote:

Nice gallery.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/11893649944/in/set-72157639658025646
I like the geometry created by the frame of your photo and the frame
of the paintings. DOF is perfect.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/11893530673/in/set-72157639658025646
This is my favorite, she is totally immersed in singing and has a
lovely expression.



On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

Hi all,
If interested, you can find a new set of mine here, shot in a bistrot at
evenings:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dariobon/sets/72157639658025646/
They are mostly shot with 31mm Ltd and 77mm Ltd lenses, which are
responsible for the nice bokeh (when applicable).
Comments welcome (but I'm going to see them and reply on Monday, as I'll
have one day out on Sunday).
Dario

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Re: It's not the camera

2014-01-11 Thread P.J. Alling

On 1/11/2014 9:51 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

Have you ever noticed that the more money someone has invested in photo
gear, the more likely they are to say It's not the camera, it's the 
photographer?

I wish you had of told me that a few years ago. I was under this more
is better spell for some time, and bought over 16K of DSLR's between
2001 and 2011. These are now worth a combined $1800.00.:-) (and thats
all i can do is just smile about it.)

Dave


That makes me feel much better about the Kodak DC260 that I paid $800 
for in 1993 or 94.  I think it was worth about $20 when I gave it away 
to a friend (with the original box), five years ago.  It was probably 
the worst photographic investment I ever made.



So, if it's not the camera, now that K-3 prices have dropped a bit,
why do I want a K-3 so badly?  It's not like I'll get any better photos.

Seriously though, I really am planning on waiting to see what the next
thing they have in store is before committing.

On the subject of spending money on gear, I ended up returning my 13
macbook pro.  It turns out that the screen was just too small for
comfortably editing photos.  It turns out that there are three versions
of the 15 available (at least refurbbed).

1) The retina screen is the only one available at stores.  You lose a
firewire port, but gain a second thunderbolt port.  You lose the
optical drive and get an HDMI port.
The big drawback, other than cost, is that the memory is soldered in,
so you pay the apple tax on RAM, since you can't upgrade on your own.

2) Low res  1440x900 pixels

3) High res 1680x1050, this seems to be the one to get, but the
inexpensive ones seem to be gone from the apple store as of today,
all of the ones left charge the apple tax on memory and drive.

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Re: snowblower

2014-01-11 Thread Alan C
Rotary type - they make a loudish humming noise interspersed with clonking 
sounds when

small stones are struck - quite enough to wake you up.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: John

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:54 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: OT: snowblower

An electric lawnmower wouldn't make a lot of noise?

On 1/10/2014 11:00 AM, Alan C wrote:

I know how they must feel. The guy over the roads here cuts his grass
with an electric mower every Sat at 04:00am illuminated by a streetlight!

Alan C

-Original Message- From: CollinB
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:00 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT: snowblower

I have a snow blower and I am not afraid to use it. Even at 6:30 a.m.
A friend just said There is a reward in heaven for you!  Perhaps he was
being sarcastic.
I am also presuming heaven. My neighbors might presume otherwise.

Collin





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Re: January PUG is up - it's cold outside....

2014-01-11 Thread Ken Waller

Brian, once againg thanks for your time and efforts with the PUG.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org

Subject: January PUG is up - it's cold outside



G'day all

A great gallery to kick off 2014.

As usual it's hard to pick favourites but maybe Thrainn's 'Horses in 
Winter' and Jan's 'Too Cold for Comfort'.


Interesting that Ann and Phillip both submitted shots taken on film  and 
both used the KX.



As usual, you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous Gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not 
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery, let me know.


+

For February we have 'Feathered Friends' - so all you ornithologists  and 
fan-dancing aficionados should have no problems...


Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  or 
lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  ensure 
that the image is displayed correctly on line.

* Nominal closing date: 30 September.

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Re: PESO - Portrait of Kai (was: A Girl and her Guitar)

2014-01-11 Thread Walt

On 1/10/2014 1:09 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 10/1/14, knarf, discombobulated, unleashed:


I think I have to agree with you, Mark.

Without the guitar she has an awkward posture. It just doesn't feel
right to me.

Of course there's not enough guitar for a nicely balanced composition.

So I like with guitar best but ultimately neither is a great shot.

After seeing them, gotta agree with you. I mean about 'with the guitar'.
It's a lovely shot Frank.

Same here. I would've said the same thing earlier, but I figured my 
predisposition toward guitars might have colored my opinion.


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Re: PESO - Mt St Michel landward view

2014-01-11 Thread Alan C

A fantastic view, Rick.

This is Thelwell's interpretaion:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/11900622684/lightbox/

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Womer

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:50 PM
To: Pentax List
Subject: PESO - Mt St Michel landward view

From the ramparts, at mid-tide.  The difference between high and low tide 
can exceed 40 ft/12m, and the gradual slope makes the incoming tide 
impossible to outrun.


On the horizon is the sort of torrential rainstorm that bedeviled us all 
day.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17641594size=lg

or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17641594-lg.jpg

Comments?

Rick

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Re: snowblower

2014-01-11 Thread Alan C
The spirit of De la Rey? Brandishing a firearm in public can easily lead to 
being arrested. Pulling off a shot - attempted murder.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Bob W

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:27 PM
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Subject: Re: OT: snowblower

South Africans must have changed since I was there in 1998. We all came back 
to where we were staying in Cape Town after a stag night, arriving home at 
the same time as the women from their hen party, so we all continued on the 
roof until about 3am when there was a shout from the street. We looked down 
to see a heavily-bearded Boer type in his pyjamas, carrying a hunting rifle, 
who shouted up at us in a strong Afrikaans accent if you lot don't bloody 
shut up right now I'm going to come up there and shoot you all!.


We shut up.

B


On 11 Jan 2014, at 19:54, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:

An electric lawnmower wouldn't make a lot of noise?


On 1/10/2014 11:00 AM, Alan C wrote:
I know how they must feel. The guy over the roads here cuts his grass
with an electric mower every Sat at 04:00am illuminated by a streetlight!

Alan C

-Original Message- From: CollinB
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:00 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: OT: snowblower

I have a snow blower and I am not afraid to use it. Even at 6:30 a.m.
A friend just said There is a reward in heaven for you!  Perhaps he was
being sarcastic.
I am also presuming heaven. My neighbors might presume otherwise.

Collin


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Re: Here in London. Ready for the PDML Milton Keynes meeting tomorrow.

2014-01-11 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 11 January 2014 11:01, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 On 11/1/14, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Having a coffee in a traditional bistro. Well, all right, it's a
Starbucks. Still tastes good after a 6-hour flight and a long ride on
the tube.

 Tell Chris you demand to see the concrete cows.

Ah, but that would involve going over 15 roundabouts (that other MK stereotype).

We're going to be at Bletchley Park so a brief drive-by pilgrimage to
the Marshall Amps factory might be in order...

Chris

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Re: Italy in the UK

2014-01-11 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 11 January 2014 11:31, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 11/01/2014, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 Very good. Great to see a proper Fiat 500 and not one of those new
 fangled ones...

 Chris

 I hate to be a pedant 8-) but a real Fiat 500 is a Topolino.
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Fiat500topolino.jpg
 All following models are shabby in comparison.  It's an excellently
 emotive photo, though.

I should have known better than to say anything about cars here...

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