Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[Ken Waller]

Totally predictable, Ken.


Your comment was Totally predictable jack.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 

Subject: Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies



Totally predictable, Ken.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Totally agree Ann.


-Original Message-

From: ann sanfedele 
Subject: Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

I think it would be really lovely if you sliced off the sky and
mountains and just showed the green and the poppies...
The blown out sky is a distraction,and the pattern the poppies make is
very cool

ann


On 3/14/2016 6:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am 
seeing poppies.
This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman 
Studios and became a post card.

Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."

C appreciated

J

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Re: DA 35 macro on FF? Other DA on FF?

[Darren Addy]

>92% viewfinder coverage)

Steve nailed the reason you can't simply go by film camera impressions.
Stopping down will increase the effective image circle, which is not a
bad thing for macro anyway. However, the 35mm would have had an
effective FOV of 52mm, so why not simply use a 50mm macro on the K-1
as an equivalent lens? Plenty of 50mm macros that cover FF out there.

If you want wide angle macro, don't forget the crazy FF capable Venus 15mm:
http://petapixel.com/2015/06/29/review-the-venus-optics-laowa-15mm-f4-11-wide-angle-macro-lens/


On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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>
> John wrote:
>>
>> It should work with the PZ-1p I think. I have one of those with
>> batteries. I've got film in the fridge.
>>
>> Send me the lens & I'll let you know if it vignettes.
>
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Re: PESOs Garrapata updates

[Darren Addy]

I agree with Rick and Boris and Paul.
:)
That 2nd one is superb in B

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Paul  wrote:
> Yup.  IMO B/W are definitely better.
>
> -p
>
> On 3/14/2016 9:21 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Darren and Boris: I think that the colors detract from
>> the form and drama of the waves. I prefer the monos.
>>
>> Rick
>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Boris Liberman 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Larry, Darren is exactly right ;-).
>>>
>>> On 2/18/2016 8:23, Larry Colen wrote:


 Darren just left a note on my flickr page that I should process a couple
 of my photos in black and white.  Here are the results:



 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/24805793490/in/album-72157663572666792/

 and



 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/24733739139/in/album-72157663572666792/

 The previous versions in color:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/24496444055/

 and

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/23868256674/

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Re: PESOs Garrapata updates

[Paul]

Yup.  IMO B/W are definitely better.

-p

On 3/14/2016 9:21 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I agree with Darren and Boris: I think that the colors detract from
the form and drama of the waves. I prefer the monos.

Rick
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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

Larry, Darren is exactly right ;-).

On 2/18/2016 8:23, Larry Colen wrote:


Darren just left a note on my flickr page that I should process a couple
of my photos in black and white.  Here are the results:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/24805793490/in/album-72157663572666792/

and


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/24733739139/in/album-72157663572666792/

The previous versions in color:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/24496444055/

and

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Re: The agony of computer upgrades

[Rick Womer]

No doubt. I wasn't casting aspersions on Windoze (or nasturtiums,
either); l was only commiserating.

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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> Rick Womer wrote:
>
>>And that, Mark, is why I'm running OS X 10.6.8 on my photo computer.
>>
>>Last year I upgraded my work computer to OS X 10.10 (Yosemite). It
>>took me a day and a half to install and configure the software and get
>>things working--which is more unscheduled time than I have most weeks.
>
> The thing is, I have way more software (and hardware - sound card,
> multiple scanners and multiple printers) to work with. It would take
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Re: PESO's from March

[ann sanfedele]

Love all the trees - want to be there where they are.. especially 2nd 
and third...(trees and creek)
The muddy leaf not quite my sort of thing so well done yet looks a 
bit contrived.


ann

On 3/14/2016 10:25 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I like the muddy leaves, and the first and second tree pix.

The good thing about March is that it isn't February.

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On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Tom Reese  wrote:

I agree with Paul. That fog picture is really good.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Paul  wrote:

I'd vote for the third one down of the trees in the fog.  For me it's the
most moody, with the tree silhouettes receding into the fog.

-p

On 3/24/2015 9:56 PM, Mark C wrote:

A few recent PESO's -

Muddy March Leaves:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/muddy-march-leaves

(K-3, D-FA 17-70)

Swirling Leaves:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/swirling-leaves

(Mz-S, FA 28-105 power-zoom, Pro-Max 100 rated at 50)

Trees on a Foggy Morning:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/trees-on-a-foggy-morning

(K-3, D-FA 17-70)

Comments welcome - March is usually my least productive month for
outdoor photography.

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Re: The agony of computer upgrades

[Mark Roberts]

Rick Womer wrote:

>And that, Mark, is why I'm running OS X 10.6.8 on my photo computer.
>
>Last year I upgraded my work computer to OS X 10.10 (Yosemite). It
>took me a day and a half to install and configure the software and get
>things working--which is more unscheduled time than I have most weeks.

The thing is, I have way more software (and hardware - sound card,
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Re: PESO - Saturday Afternoon Treat

[Rick Womer]

Frank, for me the cropping of the two people coming through the door
detracts a lot.

Rick

PS: BTW, 20C = 68F; 15C = 59F. So, very warm! Thursday in Philly it
hit 82F = 18C. Ridiculous.
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 8:47 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Hehe - is she going to eat it before it melts and dribbles down hersleeve?
> Must be a good book
>
> ann
>
> On 3/14/2016 8:30 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>>
>> This weekend was very warm for early March, with temps in the high
>> teens Celsius (maybe into the 50s F?).
>>
>> The streets were teeming and this ice cream shop on Roncesvalles
>> Avenue in Toronto was doing a brisk business, including this lady:
>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2016/03/saturday-afternoon-treat.html
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
>>
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Re: PESO's from March

[Rick Womer]

I like the muddy leaves, and the first and second tree pix.

The good thing about March is that it isn't February.

Rick
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On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Tom Reese  wrote:
> I agree with Paul. That fog picture is really good.
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Paul  wrote:
>> I'd vote for the third one down of the trees in the fog.  For me it's the
>> most moody, with the tree silhouettes receding into the fog.
>>
>> -p
>>
>> On 3/24/2015 9:56 PM, Mark C wrote:
>>>
>>> A few recent PESO's -
>>>
>>> Muddy March Leaves:
>>>
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/muddy-march-leaves
>>>
>>> (K-3, D-FA 17-70)
>>>
>>> Swirling Leaves:
>>>
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/swirling-leaves
>>>
>>> (Mz-S, FA 28-105 power-zoom, Pro-Max 100 rated at 50)
>>>
>>> Trees on a Foggy Morning:
>>>
>>> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/trees-on-a-foggy-morning
>>>
>>> (K-3, D-FA 17-70)
>>>
>>> Comments welcome - March is usually my least productive month for
>>> outdoor photography.
>>>
>>> Mark
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Re: PESOs Garrapata updates

[Rick Womer]

I agree with Darren and Boris: I think that the colors detract from
the form and drama of the waves. I prefer the monos.

Rick
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On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Larry, Darren is exactly right ;-).
>
> On 2/18/2016 8:23, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> Darren just left a note on my flickr page that I should process a couple
>> of my photos in black and white.  Here are the results:
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/24805793490/in/album-72157663572666792/
>>
>> and
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/24733739139/in/album-72157663572666792/
>>
>> The previous versions in color:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/24496444055/
>>
>> and
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/23868256674/
>>
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Re: The agony of computer upgrades

[Rick Womer]

And that, Mark, is why I'm running OS X 10.6.8 on my photo computer.

Last year I upgraded my work computer to OS X 10.10 (Yosemite). It
took me a day and a half to install and configure the software and get
things working--which is more unscheduled time than I have most weeks.

Rick
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 3/14/2016 7:35 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>> So I finally decided to upgrade my ageing computer. I'm almost
>> embarrassed to say how old it is. In fact, I *am* embarrassed to say,
>> so I won't!
>>
>> So, a motherboard transplant has taken place. Fast, multi-core
>> processor, lots of fast RAM, USB3, etc. And, as the subject line says,
>> it's agony. Not the physical replacement of the motherboard, of
>> course. That took an hour or so and was a snap. But you really need to
>> re-install the O.S. when you replace a motherboard, so I went with a
>> clean install. Which also isn't really a big deal. The big deal is
>> re-installing and configuring all your applications. That's the agony.
>> After a day and a half of stress I've got all the drivers up to date
>> for the new hardware and all the basics installed (color management,
>> profiling software, etc.). Now I get to add all my main apps,
>> including parts of various Adobe suites (some from CS6, some from CS5
>> and some from CS4). I haven't even dared count how many other apps I
>> have to set up.
>>
>> Time to take up drinking, I think.
>>
>> (But the new computer does seem very fast and slick, so maybe this'll
>> all be worth it.)
>>
>>
>
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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[Jack Davis]

Appreciate your contact, John.
Always fun to follow.
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 14, 2016, at 6:45 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> If it helps in any way, I did see it the first time. So, it did get through 
> to at least part of the list.
> 
> 
>> On 3/14/2016 6:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
>> poppies.
>> This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman 
>> Studios and became a post card.
>> Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."
>> 
>> C appreciated
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1038
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Re: The agony of computer upgrades

[Bill]

On 3/14/2016 7:35 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

So I finally decided to upgrade my ageing computer. I'm almost
embarrassed to say how old it is. In fact, I *am* embarrassed to say,
so I won't!

So, a motherboard transplant has taken place. Fast, multi-core
processor, lots of fast RAM, USB3, etc. And, as the subject line says,
it's agony. Not the physical replacement of the motherboard, of
course. That took an hour or so and was a snap. But you really need to
re-install the O.S. when you replace a motherboard, so I went with a
clean install. Which also isn't really a big deal. The big deal is
re-installing and configuring all your applications. That's the agony.
After a day and a half of stress I've got all the drivers up to date
for the new hardware and all the basics installed (color management,
profiling software, etc.). Now I get to add all my main apps,
including parts of various Adobe suites (some from CS6, some from CS5
and some from CS4). I haven't even dared count how many other apps I
have to set up.

Time to take up drinking, I think.

(But the new computer does seem very fast and slick, so maybe this'll
all be worth it.)




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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[John]

If it helps in any way, I did see it the first time. So, it did get 
through to at least part of the list.



On 3/14/2016 6:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:



Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
poppies.
This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman Studios 
and became a post card.
Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."

C appreciated

J

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The agony of computer upgrades

[Mark Roberts]

So I finally decided to upgrade my ageing computer. I'm almost
embarrassed to say how old it is. In fact, I *am* embarrassed to say,
so I won't!

So, a motherboard transplant has taken place. Fast, multi-core
processor, lots of fast RAM, USB3, etc. And, as the subject line says,
it's agony. Not the physical replacement of the motherboard, of
course. That took an hour or so and was a snap. But you really need to
re-install the O.S. when you replace a motherboard, so I went with a
clean install. Which also isn't really a big deal. The big deal is
re-installing and configuring all your applications. That's the agony.
After a day and a half of stress I've got all the drivers up to date
for the new hardware and all the basics installed (color management,
profiling software, etc.). Now I get to add all my main apps,
including parts of various Adobe suites (some from CS6, some from CS5
and some from CS4). I haven't even dared count how many other apps I
have to set up.

Time to take up drinking, I think.

(But the new computer does seem very fast and slick, so maybe this'll
all be worth it.)
 
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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[Jack Davis]

Totally predictable, Ken.

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> On Mar 14, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> Totally agree Ann.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: ann sanfedele 
>> Subject: Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies
>> 
>> I think it would be really lovely if you sliced off the sky and 
>> mountains and just showed the green and the poppies...
>> The blown out sky is a distraction,and the pattern the poppies make is 
>> very cool
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 3/14/2016 6:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> 
>>> Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
>>> poppies.
>>> This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman 
>>> Studios and became a post card.
>>> Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."
>>> 
>>> C appreciated
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1038
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Re: PESO - Saturday Afternoon Treat

[ann sanfedele]

Hehe - is she going to eat it before it melts and dribbles down 
hersleeve?  Must be a good book


ann

On 3/14/2016 8:30 PM, frank theriault wrote:

This weekend was very warm for early March, with temps in the high
teens Celsius (maybe into the 50s F?).

The streets were teeming and this ice cream shop on Roncesvalles
Avenue in Toronto was doing a brisk business, including this lady:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2016/03/saturday-afternoon-treat.html

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

cheers,

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PESO - Saturday Afternoon Treat

[frank theriault]

This weekend was very warm for early March, with temps in the high
teens Celsius (maybe into the 50s F?).

The streets were teeming and this ice cream shop on Roncesvalles
Avenue in Toronto was doing a brisk business, including this lady:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2016/03/saturday-afternoon-treat.html

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

cheers,

frank


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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[Ken Waller]

Totally agree Ann.


-Original Message-
>From: ann sanfedele 
>Subject: Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies
>
>I think it would be really lovely if you sliced off the sky and 
>mountains and just showed the green and the poppies...
>The blown out sky is a distraction,and the pattern the poppies make is 
>very cool
>
>ann
>
>On 3/14/2016 6:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>> Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
>> poppies.
>> This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman 
>> Studios and became a post card.
>> Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."
>>
>> C appreciated
>>
>> J
>>
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1038



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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[Jack Davis]

Thanks for commenting, Ann.
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 14, 2016, at 4:41 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I think it would be really lovely if you sliced off the sky and mountains and 
> just showed the green and the poppies...
> The blown out sky is a distraction,and the pattern the poppies make is very 
> cool
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 3/14/2016 6:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
>> poppies.
>> This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman 
>> Studios and became a post card.
>> Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."
>> 
>> C appreciated
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1038
> 
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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[ann sanfedele]

I think it would be really lovely if you sliced off the sky and 
mountains and just showed the green and the poppies...
The blown out sky is a distraction,and the pattern the poppies make is 
very cool


ann

On 3/14/2016 6:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
poppies.
This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman Studios 
and became a post card.
Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."

C appreciated

J

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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[Jack Davis]

Kind remarks, Paul. Thanks!
J

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> On Mar 14, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Paul  wrote:
> 
> Lovely depiction of the California state flower.  Looked for fields like this 
> the last time I was in CA but never found any - wrong place or wrong time.
> 
> -p
> 
>> On 3/14/2016 5:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
>> poppies.
>> This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman 
>> Studios and became a post card.
>> Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."
>> 
>> C appreciated
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1038
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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[Paul]

Lovely depiction of the California state flower.  Looked for fields like 
this the last time I was in CA but never found any - wrong place or 
wrong time.


-p

On 3/14/2016 5:20 PM, Jack Davis wrote:



Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
poppies.
This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman Studios 
and became a post card.
Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."

C appreciated

J

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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, David.
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 14, 2016, at 3:28 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> thats nice
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
>> poppies.
>> This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman 
>> Studios and became a post card.
>> Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."
>> 
>> C appreciated
>> 
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Re: FSF teaser

[Peter Loveday]

From: Larry Colen

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Does it cover full frame?


It is supposed to.  That is why I bought it.  I forget which page I looked 
on. But doing a quick google shows several positive results:


http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/10/compatibility-of-da-lenses-on-full.html


According to dpreview (FWIW) the DA* 55mm F1.4 works in full frame when 
stopped-down.  It doesn't say how much, but according to them "Ricoh has 
published a list of those lenses that will produce relatively useable 
results in full frame mode, if the aperture is stopped down.", so I suppose 
its official, though I couldn't find the ricoh source with a quick search.


http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax-k-1

I'd be holding on to the FA50/1.4 myself, for now.  The DA55 is my favourite 
lens on APS/C, but if it winds up being an F2 or F2.8, then... meh.


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Re: Peso-Sutter Poppies

[David J Brooks]

thats nice

Dave

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>
>
> Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
> poppies.
> This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman 
> Studios and became a post card.
> Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."
>
> C appreciated
>
> J
>
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Peso-Sutter Poppies

[Jack Davis]

Trying this one again. Was just out in the rural countryside and am seeing 
poppies.
This shot, taken sometime back, turned out to be one bought by Eastman Studios 
and became a post card.
Saw one version where the sky contained a full width; "CALIFORNIA."

C appreciated

J

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Re: PESO: Pepper at the window

[Nicole Jacque]

> 
> Nicole Jacque wrote:
>> Yes, I really liked having the reflection, especially with the eyes!
>> 
>> I have tortie, a tuxedo, and a tabby.  I’m sure they’ll all make appearances 
>> in PESOs eventually.
> 
> You mean, like next Caturday?
> 
> 

That does seem like a logical time to post them.


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Re: DA 35 macro on FF? Other DA on FF?

[Larry Colen]

John wrote:

It should work with the PZ-1p I think. I have one of those with
batteries. I've got film in the fridge.

Send me the lens & I'll let you know if it vignettes.


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Re: DA 35 macro on FF? Other DA on FF?

[John]

It should work with the PZ-1p I think. I have one of those with
batteries. I've got film in the fridge.

Send me the lens & I'll let you know if it vignettes.

On 3/14/2016 4:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



John wrote:

On 3/13/2016 4:38 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2016-03-12 11:52 , John wrote:

You wouldn't see it unless the lens was stopped down. Maybe not even
then if it gets too dark in the viewfinder.


that's the opposite notion from what i've seen expressed — that stopping
down reduces or eliminates vignetting




Larry said he put the lens on a film body and looked through the
viewfinder and didn't *SEE* vignetting.

What you can *SEE* through the viewfinder might not give you a usable
answer.

You could use the DOF preview function to stop the lens down to it's
taking aperture, but just looking through the viewfinder it might be too
dark to see clearly whether or not it's vignetting. And it might not
show 100% of the frame.

The only way to know for sure is to make a photograph, which Larry could
have done while the had the lens mounted on that film body.


Yes, I could have. That would have meant finding a film body that would
work with the DA35, finding batteries for it, hoping it works properly
digging out a roll of film (or going out and buying one), then taking a
bunch of photos, several of which would have to be of something along
the lines of a flat white wall, completely uninteresting
photographically, and then taking the film down to be processed (much
cheaper and easier than setting my own darkroom back up), and waiting
for the photos to be processed and returned. All in all, a process that
would take at least $20 and a several hours of my time.

Which, if it was critical for me to know before a K-1 is delivered, I
*could* do.  On the other hand, I could find out if someone who does
currently shoot film on Pentax bodies had already performed the
experiment.  In any case, it was just idle curiosity.  When I do have a
K-1, I will experiment, I will also experiment to see how well lightroom
can correct for the vignetting in post processing.

Thinking about this process does make me realize that if I want to shoot
35mm film, it's unlikely that I'd use one of the Pentax film bodies that
I've acquired along with lenses on craigslist. I miss shooting with my
SRT-101 far more than I miss shooting film. It is an old friend that ten
years since I last ran a roll of film through it, I can still use
without needing to concentrate on the mechanics, because after using it
for thirty years, it is almost like an extension of my own body.

This is why, when I did buy the Nikon gear that I always wanted as a
kid, I went back to shooting with the Minolta. Everything was backward
on the Nikon, and at the time it didn't give me enough benefit to make
up for the cognitive dissonance.







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Re: PESO: Pepper at the window

[Larry Colen]

Nicole Jacque wrote:

Yes, I really liked having the reflection, especially with the eyes!

I have tortie, a tuxedo, and a tabby.  I’m sure they’ll all make appearances in 
PESOs eventually.


You mean, like next Caturday?



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Re: DA 35 macro on FF? Other DA on FF?

[Larry Colen]

John wrote:

On 3/13/2016 4:38 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2016-03-12 11:52 , John wrote:

You wouldn't see it unless the lens was stopped down. Maybe not even
then if it gets too dark in the viewfinder.


that's the opposite notion from what i've seen expressed — that stopping
down reduces or eliminates vignetting




Larry said he put the lens on a film body and looked through the
viewfinder and didn't *SEE* vignetting.

What you can *SEE* through the viewfinder might not give you a usable
answer.

You could use the DOF preview function to stop the lens down to it's
taking aperture, but just looking through the viewfinder it might be too
dark to see clearly whether or not it's vignetting. And it might not
show 100% of the frame.

The only way to know for sure is to make a photograph, which Larry could
have done while the had the lens mounted on that film body.


Yes, I could have. That would have meant finding a film body that would 
work with the DA35, finding batteries for it, hoping it works properly 
digging out a roll of film (or going out and buying one), then taking a 
bunch of photos, several of which would have to be of something along 
the lines of a flat white wall, completely uninteresting 
photographically, and then taking the film down to be processed (much 
cheaper and easier than setting my own darkroom back up), and waiting 
for the photos to be processed and returned. All in all, a process that 
would take at least $20 and a several hours of my time.


Which, if it was critical for me to know before a K-1 is delivered, I 
*could* do.  On the other hand, I could find out if someone who does 
currently shoot film on Pentax bodies had already performed the 
experiment.  In any case, it was just idle curiosity.  When I do have a 
K-1, I will experiment, I will also experiment to see how well lightroom 
can correct for the vignetting in post processing.


Thinking about this process does make me realize that if I want to shoot 
35mm film, it's unlikely that I'd use one of the Pentax film bodies that 
I've acquired along with lenses on craigslist. I miss shooting with my 
SRT-101 far more than I miss shooting film. It is an old friend that ten 
years since I last ran a roll of film through it, I can still use 
without needing to concentrate on the mechanics, because after using it 
for thirty years, it is almost like an extension of my own body.


This is why, when I did buy the Nikon gear that I always wanted as a 
kid, I went back to shooting with the Minolta. Everything was backward 
on the Nikon, and at the time it didn't give me enough benefit to make 
up for the cognitive dissonance.






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Re: Semi-OT: Finding Vivian Maier

[ann sanfedele]

come to think of it, that's how I saw it also.. not netflix
watched it 3 times
ann

On 3/14/2016 3:37 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2016-03-14 12:54 , Darren Addy wrote:

Speaking of Viv, I found a copy of "Vivian Maier - Out of the Shadows"
at my local library. Pleasantly surprised, since it is now a
well-over-$100 book that you can't buy new.


just noticed it's at my library too, will check it out; i did already 
see Finding Vivian Maier courtesy of my library as well






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Re: PESO: Pepper at the window

[Nicole Jacque]

Yes, I really liked having the reflection, especially with the eyes!

I have tortie, a tuxedo, and a tabby.  I’m sure they’ll all make appearances in 
PESOs eventually.

> On Mar 14, 2016, at 12:41 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> 
> On 2016-03-14 12:51 , Nicole Jacque wrote:
>> I am way behind on processing my photos, but I figured that the world needs 
>> more cat photos, so, here you go.  This is my cat Pepper, who while not a 
>> particularly cooperative model, will work for cat food:
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/EkjnqL
>> 
>> Bonus PESO:   https://flic.kr/p/F9CoKZ
> 
> & a tortie too! i agree with Ann, bring on the kitties
> 
> the ear scrunch and reflection are nice in the bonus
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Re: Semi-OT: Finding Vivian Maier

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Speaking of Viv, I found a copy of "Vivian Maier - Out of the Shadows"
at my local library. Pleasantly surprised, since it is now a
well-over-$100 book that you can't buy new. This is a photo-heavy (and
words-light) book that shows her photography to good advantage. Square
format pages and her photos are almost all displayed 1 per page (some
with borders some full bleed). Each chapter begins with a couple of
pages of words and that's about it. The rest is her imagery. Chapter
titles:
Snapshots
America
Day
Maxwell
Beach
1968
Downtown
Walks
Night

288 pages. Highly recommended.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 1:44 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> And I believe it is available on Net Flix too
> It's certainly wonderful
> ann
>
> On 3/14/2016 2:23 PM, John wrote:
>>
>> I decided "Semi"- OT because it's been discussed here a lot since it
>> happened.
>>
>> Anyway, just a heads up.
>>
>> I found the DVD "Finding Vivian Maier" for $9.99 at Costco. Anyone out
>> there who shops at Costco & is interested should swing by the
>> video/books section next time you're in there.
>>
>>
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PESO: Pepper at the window

[Nicole Jacque]

I am way behind on processing my photos, but I figured that the world needs 
more cat photos, so, here you go.  This is my cat Pepper, who while not a 
particularly cooperative model, will work for cat food:  

https://flic.kr/p/EkjnqL

Bonus PESO:   https://flic.kr/p/F9CoKZ

Shot with my Kr.  
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Re: PESO: Pepper at the window

[steve harley]

On 2016-03-14 12:51 , Nicole Jacque wrote:

I am way behind on processing my photos, but I figured that the world needs 
more cat photos, so, here you go.  This is my cat Pepper, who while not a 
particularly cooperative model, will work for cat food:

https://flic.kr/p/EkjnqL

Bonus PESO:   https://flic.kr/p/F9CoKZ


& a tortie too! i agree with Ann, bring on the kitties

the ear scrunch and reflection are nice in the bonus


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Re: Semi-OT: Finding Vivian Maier

[ann sanfedele]

And I believe it is available on Net Flix too
It's certainly wonderful
ann

On 3/14/2016 2:23 PM, John wrote:

I decided "Semi"- OT because it's been discussed here a lot since it
happened.

Anyway, just a heads up.

I found the DVD "Finding Vivian Maier" for $9.99 at Costco. Anyone out
there who shops at Costco & is interested should swing by the
video/books section next time you're in there.





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Re: Semi-OT: Finding Vivian Maier

[steve harley]

On 2016-03-14 12:54 , Darren Addy wrote:

Speaking of Viv, I found a copy of "Vivian Maier - Out of the Shadows"
at my local library. Pleasantly surprised, since it is now a
well-over-$100 book that you can't buy new.


just noticed it's at my library too, will check it out; i did already see 
Finding Vivian Maier courtesy of my library as well



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Re: DA 35 macro on FF? Other DA on FF?

[steve harley]

On 2016-03-14 12:39 , John wrote:

On 3/13/2016 4:38 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2016-03-12 11:52 , John wrote:

You wouldn't see it unless the lens was stopped down. Maybe not even
then if it gets too dark in the viewfinder.


that's the opposite notion from what i've seen expressed — that stopping
down reduces or eliminates vignetting




Larry said he put the lens on a film body and looked through the
viewfinder and didn't *SEE* vignetting.


he said he didn't notice *severe* vignetting — and i looked through a 92% 
viewfinder, at a bright uniformly-lit area, and could see moderate vignetting



What you can *SEE* through the viewfinder might not give you a usable
answer.


i agree, it's hard to judge moderate vignetting, and one could easily miss 
minor vignetting; i was talking about the theoretical relationship of 
aperture to vignetting though



The only way to know for sure is to make a photograph, which Larry could
have done while the had the lens mounted on that film body.


i could have too, i had film in my camera, but it didn't seem worth the 
effort to find batteries and use up the roll; i could already see vignetting 
and i had seen what seemed to be a vetted list saying it should not vignette 
if stopped down to an unspecified aperture; i'm content to wait to find out 
how much and what apertures when someone does a test with a K-1




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Re: PESO: Pepper at the window

[Nicole Jacque]

Whoops, actually that one was intended to be the main picture — looks like I 
switched them when copy and pasting.

So the PESO really should be: https://flic.kr/p/F9CoKZ

> On Mar 14, 2016, at 12:13 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> you can never have too many cat photos..
> I think the bonus is a bit nicer... more unusual and all of Pepper is sharp..
> 
> ann
> 
> On 3/14/2016 2:51 PM, Nicole Jacque wrote:
>> I am way behind on processing my photos, but I figured that the world needs 
>> more cat photos, so, here you go.  This is my cat Pepper, who while not a 
>> particularly cooperative model, will work for cat food:
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/EkjnqL
>> 
>> Bonus PESO:   https://flic.kr/p/F9CoKZ
>> 
>> Shot with my Kr.
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Re: PESO: Pepper at the window

[ann sanfedele]

you can never have too many cat photos..
I think the bonus is a bit nicer... more unusual and all of Pepper is 
sharp..


ann

On 3/14/2016 2:51 PM, Nicole Jacque wrote:

I am way behind on processing my photos, but I figured that the world needs 
more cat photos, so, here you go.  This is my cat Pepper, who while not a 
particularly cooperative model, will work for cat food:

https://flic.kr/p/EkjnqL

Bonus PESO:   https://flic.kr/p/F9CoKZ

Shot with my Kr.



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Re: DA 35 macro on FF? Other DA on FF?

[John]

On 3/13/2016 4:38 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2016-03-12 11:52 , John wrote:

You wouldn't see it unless the lens was stopped down. Maybe not even
then if it gets too dark in the viewfinder.


that's the opposite notion from what i've seen expressed — that stopping
down reduces or eliminates vignetting




Larry said he put the lens on a film body and looked through the
viewfinder and didn't *SEE* vignetting.

What you can *SEE* through the viewfinder might not give you a usable
answer.

You could use the DOF preview function to stop the lens down to it's
taking aperture, but just looking through the viewfinder it might be too
dark to see clearly whether or not it's vignetting. And it might not
show 100% of the frame.

The only way to know for sure is to make a photograph, which Larry could
have done while the had the lens mounted on that film body.

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Semi-OT: Finding Vivian Maier

[John]

I decided "Semi"- OT because it's been discussed here a lot since it
happened.

Anyway, just a heads up.

I found the DVD "Finding Vivian Maier" for $9.99 at Costco. Anyone out
there who shops at Costco & is interested should swing by the
video/books section next time you're in there.


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Re: DA 35 macro on FF? Other DA on FF?

[Bill]

On 3/13/2016 9:27 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2016-03-13 14:56 , Paul Stenquist wrote:

Stopping down sharpens those edges and makes them visible. Same as
when looking for dust specks.


i read a few references and it seems clear that optical vignetting can
be reduced or eliminated by stopping down; the second illustration on
this page shows why:







Anyone who has used a large format camera knows this.

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Re: Shopping for 64GB SD cards

[Matthew Hunt]

There is a Sandisk deal-of-the-day at Amazon today (Monday 3/14):

http://amzn.to/1MhHid3

64 GB Sandisk Extreme 90 MB/s are 24.99, compared to $31.49 at B

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> By any chance has anyone shopped for 64GB SD cards in the past week? Are
> there any particularly good deals out there?
>
> I'm going to need to pick up a couple more, and if someone else has already
> done the work of chasing down the best deals, it could save me a bit of
> bother.
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