Re: Galvanized Skink

[Larry Colen]

David Mann wrote:

On Nov 29, 2016, at 10:46 PM, Alan C  wrote:


At 6am it wasn't very active yet.


Sounds just like me.


I've usually gone to bed by then.



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RE: Coyles in USA

[John Coyle]

More thanks to Godfrey, Marco, Ann, Paul and AlanC for their comments.
A small correction, the restaurant in Sausalito was called "A Taste of Rome", 
now corrected, just in
case anyone goes there!.

John in Brisbane




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A lot of really nice pics! Again, I was sorry not to be able to meet here on 
either of your visits,
but glad we had NY.

- Marco

> On Nov 29, 2016, at 1:04 AM, John Coyle  wrote:
> 
> I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, 
> only just had time to start on processing!
> 
> Anyway, here's the first group:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/
> album/
> 
> All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the 
> Pentax DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.
> 
> Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
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Re: Galvanized Skink

[David Mann]

On Nov 29, 2016, at 10:46 PM, Alan C  wrote:

> At 6am it wasn't very active yet.

Sounds just like me.

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Re: PESO - The Haps

[Marco Alpert]

Thanks to Ann, Philip, and Malcolm for the comments. Much appreciated!

- Marco 

> On Nov 28, 2016, at 1:56 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> That we don't know what they are looking at is part of the magic here -
> 
> Now this is a Marco shot Ilove - as most of them are...
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/28/2016 4:17 PM, Philip Northeast wrote:
>> But what are they looking at?  Interesting.
>> 
>> Philip Northeast
>> 
>> www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au
>> 
>>> On 29/11/16 3:50 am, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso35.html
>>> 
>>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
>>> 
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Re: Coyles in USA

[Alan C]

A good time was had by all. Nice gallery.

Alan C

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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:04 AM
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Subject: Coyles in USA

I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, only 
just had time to start

on processing!

Anyway, here's the first group:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/

All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the Pentax 
DA 50-200, with ISO

varying from 200 to 6400.

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Re: Elliott Erwitt exhibit

[ann sanfedele]

Doubt there is anything in the new book (that I couldnt afford to buy) 
that isn't already on my bookshelf, but thanks for the link..


ann


On 11/29/2016 1:39 PM, Gonz wrote:

http://www.realclearlife.com/2016/11/29/new-monograph-celebrates-groundbreaking-street-photography-elliot-erwitt/

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:24 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

send me train fare and I'll be right there :-)

I did see a fairly recent exhibit here but didn't know about it until after
the opening... which he attended... I'm really sorry I missed the chance to
meet him

ann



On 11/17/2016 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote:

Went to see the quite large Elliott Erwitt display at the University
of Texas' Harry Ransom center last night.

All I can say is Wow!

If you can find a way to go see it, do it!

So many iconic photographs there.  Many with the stories behind the
image.  Quite spectacular.  Plus some of the films he was involved
with.

You can stay at my house if you come.



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RE: Coyles in USA

[John Coyle]

Hi Larry -  20161011-LRC21696.jpg is closest, I think.


John in Brisbane



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John Coyle wrote:
> Hi Larry - I had the camera set to "Natural", and I don't think I 
> changed the temperature or tint values in post; as shot, the colour 
> temperature was 6450, and tint +18.

Try as I might, I can't reproduce your color balance, this is the closest I've 
gotten so far.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30502608304/in/album-72157675099182145/ 


>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 7:47 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Coyles in USA
>
>
>
> John Coyle wrote:
>> Thanks for the nice comments Cotty, Larry, Malcolm, Dan, and Igor.
>> Larry - I knew you'd taken the same moon rise pic, and wondered how 
>> it would turn out given you were using the K1: IMHO, they don't look 
>> much different?
>
> Most of the differences come down to processing. In many ways I think 
> your color balance worked out better. What temp and tint values did 
> you use?
>
> The rest of the differences are from my cropping in a lot tighter and 
> showing a lot less sea and sky. It could be entertaining for me to 
> post a copy of mine using your color balance and you to crop yours 
> down to the same composition as mine and we could see if there is any 
> significant difference in the final products.
>
>>
>> John in Brisbane
>> PS - apologies for not putting GESO in the subject line!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Igor PDML-StR
>> Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 2:01 AM
>> To: PDML@pdml.net
>> Subject: Re: Coyles in USA
>>
>>
>> John,
>>
>> Beautiful gallery!
>>
>>
>> In the great California
>> There was a bay
>> And a bridge
>> And the ocean breeze
>> And a bunch of galleries
>> And a tram
>> And BART train
>> And a beautiful moonrise
>> And an island with Alcatraz
>> That was made famous by escapees
>> And a diner with a car from 60s
>> And a sweet lady with a beautiful smile And all beautiful views that 
>> worth your while At the end of the day Goodnight the Bay Goodnight 
>> moonrise Goodnight Alcatraz Goodnight Larry!
>>
>> (With apologies to Margaret Wise Brown)
>>
>>
>> PS. For those who might not be familiar with M.W.B.'s famous poem:
>> http://www.sfasu.edu/echl/documents/Goodnight_Moon.pdf
>> (But it is best seen in the book, - with the illustrations.)
>>
>> John Coyle Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:05:55 -0800 wrote:
>>
>> I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - 
>> sorry, only just had time to start on processing!
>>
>>
>> Anyway, here's the first group:
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October
>> /
>> album/
>>
>> All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the 
>> Pentax DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.
>>
>> Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!
>>
>> John in Brisbane
>>
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

[ann sanfedele]

BRuce - do read Bob W's comments on thsi thread... if you are replying 
to me not having read all the other back and forths especially


It is a totally different thing take photos of anyone of any shape and 
size when they know you are photographing them...


I imagine too that the woman on the left would not be pleased as she 
looks rather unhappy... Whehter or not that particular young woman in 
the center is comfrotable in hew own skin, she is in an awkward pose, 
and she is eating , of all things, an apple... it's stuffed in her 
mouth.. bring anything to mind?Someone of her dimensions wearing tights 
is not the best fashion choice either..


I think with street photography it is better to keep more of a distance 
from your subjects - rather than the in your face weegee approach... The 
apparent


closeness of Marco to his subjects - that is, in distance, with the 
woman with the apple in the center , there would really be no point to 
taking the photo at all if you as the photographer had no opinion about 
her. It is complicated, but the photo makes me cringe, and I can't shake 
that.


I wrote a bit about some personal stuff to Marco off list that figures 
into my gut reaction...


I'm not obese, and considering my age, I dont' think I look too awful, 
but I would not want to see a photo of myself with food in my mouth, or 
at a clumsy angle or if I were angry or sad...  unless I was on stage, 
of course!


can't help it, that's me

ann


On 11/29/2016 3:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Ann, from my experience taking photos of people, overweight folks are
happy to see photos of themselves. Many -- though not all -- heavy
people are completely accepting of their shape and like to see
themselves in pictures as much as anyone else does.

I don't see this photo as mean spirited at all. I just see a slice of
life as viewed in Marco's well honed and strongly defined style. I
don't even see any attempt to mock anyone in the image.

I will readily admit to a thin bias. I am uncomfortable taking photos
of overweight people because I like to flatter my subjects and by
assuming that they would rather look lighter I have a tendency to
attempt to thin-ize larger folks by cropping, half hiding them behind
thinner people, using shadows, posing them in profile, and all the
other portrait photographer's tricks. On the other hand there's the
desire to portray the truth in street photos, so I suffer an internal
conflict in those situations.


On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 3:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing this..

I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now I find it
difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..

ann


On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

Mean?

m


On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Now that's just mean..

ann


On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: Coyles in USA

[Paul Stenquist]

Excellent gallery!

Paul via phone

> On Nov 29, 2016, at 6:25 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
> A lot of really nice pics! Again, I was sorry not to be able to meet here on 
> either of your visits, but glad we had NY.
> 
> - Marco
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2016, at 1:04 AM, John Coyle  wrote:
>> 
>> I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, only 
>> just had time to start
>> on processing!
>> 
>> Anyway, here's the first group:
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/
>> 
>> All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the Pentax 
>> DA 50-200, with ISO
>> varying from 200 to 6400.
>> 
>> Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!
>> 
>> John in Brisbane
>> 
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Re: Coyles in USA

[Larry Colen]

John Coyle wrote:

Hi Larry - I had the camera set to "Natural", and I don't think I
changed the temperature or tint
values in post; as shot, the colour temperature was 6450, and tint +18.


Try as I might, I can't reproduce your color balance, this is the 
closest I've gotten so far.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30502608304/in/album-72157675099182145/ 






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John Coyle wrote:

Thanks for the nice comments Cotty, Larry, Malcolm, Dan, and Igor.
Larry - I knew you'd taken the same moon rise pic, and wondered how it
would turn out given you were using the K1: IMHO, they don't look
much different?


Most of the differences come down to processing. In many ways I think
your color balance worked out
better. What temp and tint values did you use?

The rest of the differences are from my cropping in a lot tighter and
showing a lot less sea and
sky. It could be entertaining for me to post a copy of mine using your
color balance and you to
crop yours down to the same composition as mine and we could see if
there is any significant
difference in the final products.



John in Brisbane
PS - apologies for not putting GESO in the subject line!



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Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 2:01 AM
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John,

Beautiful gallery!


In the great California
There was a bay
And a bridge
And the ocean breeze
And a bunch of galleries
And a tram
And BART train
And a beautiful moonrise
And an island with Alcatraz
That was made famous by escapees
And a diner with a car from 60s
And a sweet lady with a beautiful smile And all beautiful views that
worth your while At the end of the day Goodnight the Bay Goodnight
moonrise Goodnight Alcatraz Goodnight Larry!

(With apologies to Margaret Wise Brown)


PS. For those who might not be familiar with M.W.B.'s famous poem:
http://www.sfasu.edu/echl/documents/Goodnight_Moon.pdf
(But it is best seen in the book, - with the illustrations.)

John Coyle Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:05:55 -0800 wrote:

I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry,
only just had time to start on processing!


Anyway, here's the first group:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/
album/

All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the
Pentax DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.

Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!

John in Brisbane



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Re: Coyles in USA

[ann sanfedele]

What Godders , said... especially like the blurry cable car at night 
shot , The Taste of Italy, (your comment gave me a giggleabout the food 
_actually_ being quite good - as if youwere surprised that it was.:-)  ) 
the pano treatment of the bay, and the cafe with the  mid _50's_ decor.  
(can't help myselfstraightening you out on that one among the clues 
is the Marilyn Monroe photo , the famous still from The 7 year itch, 
which was 1955.


A lovely travalogue of a city I love... look forward to your impressions 
of your visit here.


ann

On 11/29/2016 6:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Some very nice photos in the mix, John!

I was bummed I couldn't get up to the city that day. Things were just too darn 
complicated.. It looks like you had a good time and got to see a nice bit of 
the city and surroundings.

Perhaps someday I'll get Down Under again. I've only seen the tiniest fraction 
of Sydney and Manley Beach...

G

On Nov 29, 2016, at 2:48 PM, John Coyle  wrote:


John Coyle Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:05:55 -0800 wrote:

I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry,
only just had time to start on processing!


Anyway, here's the first group:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/
album/

All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the
Pentax DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.



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RE: Coyles in USA

[John Coyle]

Hi Godfrey - this was on the first time in SF, in October: I don't think we had 
actually arranged
anything for that day, as Larry rang out of the blue to meet us!  It is a pity 
you could not make
the second chance, in November, photos for which will follow eventually.


John in Brisbane



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Some very nice photos in the mix, John! 

I was bummed I couldn't get up to the city that day. Things were just too darn 
complicated.. It
looks like you had a good time and got to see a nice bit of the city and 
surroundings. 

Perhaps someday I'll get Down Under again. I've only seen the tiniest fraction 
of Sydney and Manley
Beach... 

G

On Nov 29, 2016, at 2:48 PM, John Coyle  wrote:

>> John Coyle Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:05:55 -0800 wrote:
>> 
>> I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - 
>> sorry, only just had time to start on processing!
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, here's the first group:
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October
>> /
>> album/
>> 
>> All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the 
>> Pentax DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.

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Re: Coyles in USA

[Marco Alpert]

A lot of really nice pics! Again, I was sorry not to be able to meet here on 
either of your visits, but glad we had NY.

- Marco

> On Nov 29, 2016, at 1:04 AM, John Coyle  wrote:
> 
> I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, only 
> just had time to start
> on processing!
> 
> Anyway, here's the first group:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/
> 
> All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the Pentax DA 
> 50-200, with ISO
> varying from 200 to 6400.
> 
> Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
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Re: Coyles in USA

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Some very nice photos in the mix, John! 

I was bummed I couldn't get up to the city that day. Things were just too darn 
complicated.. It looks like you had a good time and got to see a nice bit of 
the city and surroundings. 

Perhaps someday I'll get Down Under again. I've only seen the tiniest fraction 
of Sydney and Manley Beach... 

G

On Nov 29, 2016, at 2:48 PM, John Coyle  wrote:

>> John Coyle Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:05:55 -0800 wrote:
>> 
>> I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, 
>> only just had time to start on processing!
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, here's the first group:
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/
>> album/
>> 
>> All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the 
>> Pentax DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.

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RE: Coyles in USA

[John Coyle]

Hi Larry - I had the camera set to "Natural", and I don't think I changed the 
temperature or tint
values in post; as shot, the colour temperature was 6450, and tint +18.


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John Coyle wrote:
> Thanks for the nice comments Cotty, Larry, Malcolm, Dan, and Igor. 
> Larry - I knew you'd taken the same moon rise pic, and wondered how it 
> would turn out given you were using the K1: IMHO, they don't look much 
> different?

Most of the differences come down to processing.  In many ways I think your 
color balance worked out
better. What temp and tint values did you use?

The rest of the differences are from my cropping in a lot tighter and showing a 
lot less sea and
sky.  It could be entertaining for me to post a copy of mine using your color 
balance and you to
crop yours down to the same composition as mine and we could see if there is 
any significant
difference in the final products.

>
>
> John in Brisbane
> PS - apologies for not putting GESO in the subject line!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Igor PDML-StR
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 2:01 AM
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Coyles in USA
>
>
> John,
>
> Beautiful gallery!
>
>
> In the great California
> There was a bay
> And a bridge
> And the ocean breeze
> And a bunch of galleries
> And a tram
> And BART train
> And a beautiful moonrise
> And an island with Alcatraz
> That was made famous by escapees
> And a diner with a car from 60s
> And a sweet lady with a beautiful smile And all beautiful views that 
> worth your while At the end of the day Goodnight the Bay Goodnight 
> moonrise Goodnight Alcatraz Goodnight Larry!
>
> (With apologies to Margaret Wise Brown)
>
>
> PS. For those who might not be familiar with M.W.B.'s famous poem:
> http://www.sfasu.edu/echl/documents/Goodnight_Moon.pdf
> (But it is best seen in the book, - with the illustrations.)
>
> John Coyle Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:05:55 -0800 wrote:
>
> I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, 
> only just had time to start on processing!
>
>
> Anyway, here's the first group:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/
> album/
>
> All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the 
> Pentax DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.
>
> Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!
>
> John in Brisbane
>

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Re: PESO - Play Date

[Larry Colen]

Rick Womer wrote:

In Balboa Park, San Diego on a warm fall morning:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295150=lg

(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments appreciated.


One of the mothers didn't seem to get the memo about wearing a pink shirt.



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Re: Giving Tuesday

[Larry Colen]

Doug Brewer wrote:

this is apparently a thing, so please, while you're spreading the love
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the PDML kitty.


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Re: Coyles in USA

[Larry Colen]

John Coyle wrote:

Thanks for the nice comments Cotty, Larry, Malcolm, Dan, and Igor. Larry - I 
knew you'd taken the
same moon rise pic, and wondered how it would turn out given you were using the 
K1: IMHO, they don't
look much different?


Most of the differences come down to processing.  In many ways I think 
your color balance worked out better. What temp and tint values did you use?


The rest of the differences are from my cropping in a lot tighter and 
showing a lot less sea and sky.  It could be entertaining for me to post 
a copy of mine using your color balance and you to crop yours down to 
the same composition as mine and we could see if there is any 
significant difference in the final products.





John in Brisbane
PS - apologies for not putting GESO in the subject line!



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John,

Beautiful gallery!


In the great California
There was a bay
And a bridge
And the ocean breeze
And a bunch of galleries
And a tram
And BART train
And a beautiful moonrise
And an island with Alcatraz
That was made famous by escapees
And a diner with a car from 60s
And a sweet lady with a beautiful smile
And all beautiful views that worth your while At the end of the day Goodnight 
the Bay Goodnight
moonrise Goodnight Alcatraz Goodnight Larry!

(With apologies to Margaret Wise Brown)


PS. For those who might not be familiar with M.W.B.'s famous poem:
http://www.sfasu.edu/echl/documents/Goodnight_Moon.pdf
(But it is best seen in the book, - with the illustrations.)

John Coyle Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:05:55 -0800 wrote:

I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, only 
just had time to start
on processing!


Anyway, here's the first group:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/

All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the Pentax
DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.

Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!

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RE: Coyles in USA

[John Coyle]

Thanks for the nice comments Cotty, Larry, Malcolm, Dan, and Igor. Larry - I 
knew you'd taken the
same moon rise pic, and wondered how it would turn out given you were using the 
K1: IMHO, they don't
look much different?


John in Brisbane
PS - apologies for not putting GESO in the subject line!



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John,

Beautiful gallery!


In the great California
There was a bay
And a bridge
And the ocean breeze
And a bunch of galleries
And a tram
And BART train
And a beautiful moonrise
And an island with Alcatraz
That was made famous by escapees
And a diner with a car from 60s
And a sweet lady with a beautiful smile
And all beautiful views that worth your while At the end of the day Goodnight 
the Bay Goodnight
moonrise Goodnight Alcatraz Goodnight Larry!

(With apologies to Margaret Wise Brown)


PS. For those who might not be familiar with M.W.B.'s famous poem:
http://www.sfasu.edu/echl/documents/Goodnight_Moon.pdf
(But it is best seen in the book, - with the illustrations.)

John Coyle Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:05:55 -0800 wrote:

I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, only 
just had time to start
on processing!


Anyway, here's the first group:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/

All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the Pentax 
DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.

Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!

John in Brisbane

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Re: Giving Tuesday

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On 29/11/16, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>this is apparently a thing, so please, while you're spreading the love 
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

[Bruce Walker]

Ann, from my experience taking photos of people, overweight folks are
happy to see photos of themselves. Many -- though not all -- heavy
people are completely accepting of their shape and like to see
themselves in pictures as much as anyone else does.

I don't see this photo as mean spirited at all. I just see a slice of
life as viewed in Marco's well honed and strongly defined style. I
don't even see any attempt to mock anyone in the image.

I will readily admit to a thin bias. I am uncomfortable taking photos
of overweight people because I like to flatter my subjects and by
assuming that they would rather look lighter I have a tendency to
attempt to thin-ize larger folks by cropping, half hiding them behind
thinner people, using shadows, posing them in profile, and all the
other portrait photographer's tricks. On the other hand there's the
desire to portray the truth in street photos, so I suffer an internal
conflict in those situations.


On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 3:01 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> Yes - I doubt that sadly overweight young woman would enjoy seeing this..
>
> I've taken this kind of shot in the past, I'll admit..  but now I find it
> difficult to look at... rather like facebook shaming..
>
> ann
>
>
> On 11/27/2016 2:53 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:
>>
>> Mean?
>>
>> m
>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 5:03 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that's just mean..
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2016 4:47 PM, Marco Alpert wrote:

 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo16/peso34.html

 Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: Elliott Erwitt exhibit

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Thanks, Gonz. Something for my Christmas wish-list. :)

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Gonz  wrote:
> http://www.realclearlife.com/2016/11/29/new-monograph-celebrates-groundbreaking-street-photography-elliot-erwitt/
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:24 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> send me train fare and I'll be right there :-)
>>
>> I did see a fairly recent exhibit here but didn't know about it until after
>> the opening... which he attended... I'm really sorry I missed the chance to
>> meet him
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/17/2016 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>>
>>> Went to see the quite large Elliott Erwitt display at the University
>>> of Texas' Harry Ransom center last night.
>>>
>>> All I can say is Wow!
>>>
>>> If you can find a way to go see it, do it!
>>>
>>> So many iconic photographs there.  Many with the stories behind the
>>> image.  Quite spectacular.  Plus some of the films he was involved
>>> with.
>>>
>>> You can stay at my house if you come.
>>>
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Re: PESO - Lakeside

[Jostein]

Den 28.11.2016 18.56, skrev Larry Colen:

This is exactly the problem with street photography, the photograph
itself is making no value judgement, however the people looking at it
are free to be as judgmental as they want.


Street photography is like quantum physics. Like the act of observation 
influence what's being observed the photographer influence what's being 
photographed and conveyed to the viewer. Leaving the photographer out of 
the equation doesn't describe reality.


Btw, the same is true for photographers of other species than Homo sapiens.

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Re: PESO: Galvanized Skink

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On 11/29/2016 3:21 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

Alan C wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31275448376/
+++

I like this. You get some wonderful wildlife. I get cat on a shed roof
stuff.

Malcolm




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Re: Process & Scan

[John]

Just because the guy who recommends them is an idiot doesn't mean 
they're bad. It
just means he's an idiot & his recommendation should be taken with a 
grain of salt.


Still, even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while.


On 11/29/2016 10:37 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Well, if Kennyboy recommends them they probably should be firebombed.
Ok so not everything Kennyboy recommends is awful,  he just is.

On 11/28/2016 11:48 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

They are west coast but, North Coast Photo Services (NCPS). The same
place Ken Rockwell recommends. Their work is professional and top
notch. Their pricing is fairly reasonable too.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:

Let me know if you find one. The lab that I used to use for E6 stopped
doing it. They only do C41 & traditional B now.
Plus, they lost their lease & I don't know if they're going to
reopen in
a new location or not.



John,

I was just steered to this lab.

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Re: Elliott Erwitt exhibit

[Gonz]

http://www.realclearlife.com/2016/11/29/new-monograph-celebrates-groundbreaking-street-photography-elliot-erwitt/

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:24 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> send me train fare and I'll be right there :-)
>
> I did see a fairly recent exhibit here but didn't know about it until after
> the opening... which he attended... I'm really sorry I missed the chance to
> meet him
>
> ann
>
>
>
> On 11/17/2016 2:22 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Went to see the quite large Elliott Erwitt display at the University
>> of Texas' Harry Ransom center last night.
>>
>> All I can say is Wow!
>>
>> If you can find a way to go see it, do it!
>>
>> So many iconic photographs there.  Many with the stories behind the
>> image.  Quite spectacular.  Plus some of the films he was involved
>> with.
>>
>> You can stay at my house if you come.
>>
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Re: PESO: Galvanized Skink

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On November 29, 2016 6:32:57 AM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
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>That image skinks!

I Zink it's rather nice.
>
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>On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>
>> A large skink basking in the early morning sun. It obviously knows
>> something about the laws of physics.
>>
>> Alan C
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31275448376/
>>
>> K7 with the HD 55-300
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Re: PESO - Play Date

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Thanks, all. Alan, the temp was about 28C / 84F.

Rick
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Nice image.
>
> One can get in a spot of trouble photographing young children in the park
> these days.  We live in strange, and strained, times..
>
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> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>
>> In Balboa Park, San Diego on a warm fall morning:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295150=lg
>>
>> (K-5, DA 50-200)
>>
>> Comments appreciated.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
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Re: Coyles in USA

[Igor PDML-StR]

John,

Beautiful gallery!


In the great California
There was a bay
And a bridge
And the ocean breeze
And a bunch of galleries
And a tram
And BART train
And a beautiful moonrise
And an island with Alcatraz
That was made famous by escapees
And a diner with a car from 60s
And a sweet lady with a beautiful smile
And all beautiful views that worth your while
At the end of the day
Goodnight the Bay
Goodnight moonrise
Goodnight Alcatraz
Goodnight Larry!

(With apologies to Margaret Wise Brown)


PS. For those who might not be familiar with M.W.B.'s famous poem:
http://www.sfasu.edu/echl/documents/Goodnight_Moon.pdf
(But it is best seen in the book, - with the illustrations.)

John Coyle Tue, 29 Nov 2016 01:05:55 -0800 wrote:

I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, 
only just had time to start on processing!



Anyway, here's the first group:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/

All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the Pentax 
DA 50-200, with ISO varying from 200 to 6400.


Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!

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Re: Process & Scan

[P.J. Alling]

Well, if Kennyboy recommends them they probably should be firebombed.   
Ok so not everything Kennyboy recommends is awful,  he just is.


On 11/28/2016 11:48 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

They are west coast but, North Coast Photo Services (NCPS). The same
place Ken Rockwell recommends. Their work is professional and top
notch. Their pricing is fairly reasonable too.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:

Let me know if you find one. The lab that I used to use for E6 stopped
doing it. They only do C41 & traditional B now.
Plus, they lost their lease & I don't know if they're going to reopen in
a new location or not.



John,

I was just steered to this lab.

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Re: FWIW

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Simply superior in every aspect.


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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Gonz  wrote:

> Amazing, sharp, and dramatic capture!  Congrats.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> > Was just notified that my image 'North Face of Denali' placed third out
> of
> > approximately 185 submissions in the monthly photo contest 'Monochrome'
> > sponsored by Pentax Forums. Whoopi !
> >
> > Link to image - http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17185812
> > I was approximately 23 miles north of Denali when I took this image - so
> > thankful for clean air !
> >
> > Taken with MZ-S, 600mm f4.0 SMC FA, A-1.4XL converter on a Kirk King
> Cobra
> > gimbal head and Gitzo tripod, scanned on a Nikon Super coolscan 4000
> > ED and perfected in PS.
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Re: PESO: Galvanized Skink

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That image skinks!


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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:41 AM, Alan C  wrote:

> A large skink basking in the early morning sun. It obviously knows
> something about the laws of physics.
>
> Alan C
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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31275448376/
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Re: PESO - Play Date

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice image.

One can get in a spot of trouble photographing young children in the park
these days.  We live in strange, and strained, times..

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On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> In Balboa Park, San Diego on a warm fall morning:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295150=lg
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> (K-5, DA 50-200)
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> Comments appreciated.
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Re: Coyles in USA

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Fabulous set of images!


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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 4:04 AM, John Coyle  wrote:

> I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry,
> only just had time to start
> on processing!
>
> Anyway, here's the first group:
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-
> %20October/album/
>
> All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the Pentax
> DA 50-200, with ISO
> varying from 200 to 6400.
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> Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!
>
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RE: Coyles in USA

[Malcolm Smith]

John Coyle wrote:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/
+++

Ooh!!

Seriously though, a lovely set of pictures.

Malcolm


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Re: PESO - Play Date

[Jack Davis]

Very pleasing balance of light and
activity!
Well done, Rick!

J

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> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18295150=lg
> +++
> 
> Certainly very different from the women I met on the school run!  I used to
> see them in a rush to work, often still eating breakfast whilst dropping
> them off at nursery/school. Great capture.
> 
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Re: Coyles in USA

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Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 29/11/16, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:


I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry,
only just had time to start
on processing!

Anyway, here's the first group:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/

All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the
Pentax DA 50-200, with ISO
varying from 200 to 6400.

Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!


Great to see. Takes me back to when I was in my early teens. Used to
sail across that bay!

Fab pics :-)


Great photos, but some really goofy looking guy got into several of 
them.  You used slow shutter speed to good effect in several.


I was amused by this one:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/#K5009145.jpg

Juxtaposed with this one of mine:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/29644790133/in/album-72157675099182145/




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Re: Galvanized Skink

[Alan C]

Thanks, Malcolm. At 6am it wasn't very active yet. Later in the day it would 
have shot off. I think you have more wildlife available than you imagine, 
just harder to find. I agree we're spoiled.


Alan C

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Alan C wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31275448376/
+++

I like this. You get some wonderful wildlife. I get cat on a shed roof
stuff.

Malcolm


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Re: Galvanized Skink

[Alan C]

Thanks, Philip. We have grey ones too & also the Rainbow ones with golden 
bodies & blue tails. A host of other species too.


Alan C

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Looks bigger than our skinks in Tasmania. Ours are boring dark grey.

Nice shot


Philip Northeast

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On 29/11/16 6:41 pm, Alan C wrote:

A large skink basking in the early morning sun. It obviously knows
something about the laws of physics.

Alan C

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31275448376/

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Re: Coyles in USA

[Steve Cottrell]

On 29/11/16, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry,
>only just had time to start
>on processing!
>
>Anyway, here's the first group:
>http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/
>
>All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the
>Pentax DA 50-200, with ISO
>varying from 200 to 6400.
>
>Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!

Great to see. Takes me back to when I was in my early teens. Used to
sail across that bay!

Fab pics :-)

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Coyles in USA

[John Coyle]

I know you've all been waiting with bated breath for the pics - sorry, only 
just had time to start
on processing!

Anyway, here's the first group:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~jcoyle/USA/San%20Francisco%20-%20October/album/

All taken on the Pentax K5ii with either the Pentax DA 16-45 or the Pentax DA 
50-200, with ISO
varying from 200 to 6400.

Comments, criticisms, gasps of "ooh" all welcome!

John in Brisbane



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RE: PESO: Galvanized Skink

[Malcolm Smith]

Alan C wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/31275448376/
+++

I like this. You get some wonderful wildlife. I get cat on a shed roof
stuff.

Malcolm


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