date:20161204

Rick Womer wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18316413=lg
++

It's not just the unusual combination of craft, again, wonderful light.

Malcolm


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RE: December Hummer

Jack Davis wrote:

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138
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Well caught.

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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-04 Thread David Mann

On Dec 4, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Bill's 'Pretty Tranquil' - incredibly subtle colours and tones. Sheesh.

I did a double-take when I saw that as it reminded me of an old one of mine.  
That must be why it's so good.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/77/#peso

(OK Bill's is better.)

I wanted to submit something but my life this past week has been anything but 
tranquil.  After getting the run-around by a builder I had to do all the 
preparation for our new kitchen myself.  Had to cut a few corners but that 
stuff's all being hidden behind cabinetry :)

Cheers,
Dave
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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-04 Thread Subash Jeyan

very nice gallery to end the year. found Bill's 'pretty tranquil'
particularly stunning...


On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:55:52 +1100
Brian Walters  wrote:

> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/

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Re: December Hummer

Glad you approve, Larry. I never really
doubted it. :)

J

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> On Dec 4, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
>> Does that mean you are even more envious or it disappoints you to the
>> point that you no longer want one.:(
> 
> Even more envious. It seems that the only ways that it does not outperform my 
> bigma are zoom range and price.
> 
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ken Waller wrote:
 I don't care for the background but otherwise its a well focused and
 captured image. Better than any Hummer shot I have.
>>> Pretty much my take on it as well. I kind of wish that I didn't know it was 
>>> taken with the 150-450.
>>> 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis"
 Subject: December Hummer
 
 
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> 
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> C most appreciated.
> Thanks!
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> 
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Re: December Hummer




Jack Davis wrote:

Does that mean you are even more envious or it disappoints you to the
point that you no longer want one.:(


Even more envious. It seems that the only ways that it does not 
outperform my bigma are zoom range and price.




J



Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 4, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:



Ken Waller wrote:

I don't care for the background but otherwise its a well focused and
captured image. Better than any Hummer shot I have.

Pretty much my take on it as well. I kind of wish that I didn't know it was 
taken with the 150-450.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis"
Subject: December Hummer




This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.

Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.

C most appreciated.
Thanks!

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138

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Re: Process & Scan

2016-12-04 Thread Ken Waller

Duh... That should be hundreds of rolls. I shot a lot of film but not that 
much

And AGX is located in Sault St. Marie, Michigan - that's the eastern part of 
the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.


-Original Message-
>From: Ken Waller 
>Subject: Re: Process & Scan
>
>Collin, sorry it took so long to respond but I had to root around to find 
>this info -
>The place you want to have process your E6 is AGX Processing 
>http://www.agximaging.com/
>
>I used them the last several years I shot film (I went digital in 2004) at 
>the recommendation of a pro Outdoor Photog.
>AGX is without a doubt the best processing I've ever experienced. He's 
>processed several thousand rolls of film for me without any issues at all. 
>His prices were a little above what I was paying at other processors but I 
>knew I was getting what I was paying for.
>
>Check him out
>
>Kenneth Waller
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>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Collin B" 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 3:13 PM
>Subject: Process & Scan
>
>
>> Anyone have a preferred shop (would like eastern US) for E6 process & 
>> scan?


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Re: December Hummer

Does that mean you are even more envious or it disappoints you to the
point that you no longer want one.:(

J



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> On Dec 4, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Ken Waller wrote:
>> I don't care for the background but otherwise its a well focused and
>> captured image. Better than any Hummer shot I have.
> 
> Pretty much my take on it as well. I kind of wish that I didn't know it was 
> taken with the 150-450.
> 
>> 
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
>> Subject: December Hummer
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.
>>> 
>>> Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.
>>> 
>>> C most appreciated.
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138
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PESO - Old and New

2016-12-04 Thread Rick Womer

What's odd about a retired day cruising ship, a submarine, a PT boat, and a few 
sailing vessels being moored together? 

Nothing, along the San Diego waterfront.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18316413=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: December Hummer




Ken Waller wrote:

I don't care for the background but otherwise its a well focused and
captured image. Better than any Hummer shot I have.


Pretty much my take on it as well. I kind of wish that I didn't know it 
was taken with the 150-450.




Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
Subject: December Hummer





This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.

Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.

C most appreciated.
Thanks!

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138





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Re: December PUG Update




Oh dear, while I caught the joke you didn't intend, I missed (and 
perhaps serveral of us did) the one in Matthew's moon over the water 
shot.. he fooled us by craftily referring to the sailboat, instead of 
the face of the moon...


In which case Matthew's has to be the best one for the theme

ann

On 12/3/2016 8:14 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:37 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

'''
Bruce - just about my all time favorite of your photos.. super light, nice
pose, etc and I presume she is drinking the appropriate brand of
tea...:-)

ann

Thank you very much, Ann. I'm very pleased about that!

I hope it doesn't diminish your enjoyment to learn that Annie is a
pretty good actor and the cup was in fact empty. But I believe she may
be a tea drinker. :)




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Re: December Hummer

Fortunately I have a substantial tripod
I've had since the Bogan era. It also carries a Bogan pro ballhead.
I put it to use today on the hummer.
 
J

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> On Dec 4, 2016, at 4:19 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> certainly looks like a ruby throat ... I do have one fair shot of one from 
> the Arizona Desert Musuem bird enclosure from yearsago with one in a more 
> purple collared phase - but it isn't very sharp..  not because the bird was 
> moving but because I wasn not steady enough holding the camera
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12/4/2016 6:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Thanks...I do!  :-)
>> 
>> That "collar" kept either darkening or brightening and enlarging as I was 
>> squinting through the viewfinder.
>> It must be a Ruby Throat.
>> So interesting that I almost forgot to release the shutter.
>> Appreciated, Ann!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "ann sanfedele" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 3:31:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: December Hummer
>> 
>> You must have a good lens :-)
>> 
>> Got him nicely.. so hard to get that "collar" they wear  in full color.
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/4/2016 6:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.
>>> 
>>> Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.
>>> 
>>> C most appreciated.
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138
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Re: December Hummer

certainly looks like a ruby throat ... I do have one fair shot of one 
from the Arizona Desert Musuem bird enclosure from yearsago with one in 
a more purple collared phase - but it isn't very sharp..  not because 
the bird was moving but because I wasn not steady enough holding the camera


ann



On 12/4/2016 6:44 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks...I do!  :-)

That "collar" kept either darkening or brightening and enlarging as I was 
squinting through the viewfinder.
It must be a Ruby Throat.
So interesting that I almost forgot to release the shutter.
Appreciated, Ann!

J

- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 3:31:43 PM
Subject: Re: December Hummer

You must have a good lens :-)

Got him nicely.. so hard to get that "collar" they wear  in full color.

ann


On 12/4/2016 6:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.

Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.

C most appreciated.
Thanks!

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138






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Re: OT: Re: PESO. Electrical activity

2016-12-04 Thread Bruce Walker

Depends on your use. Photobucket appears to be just a kind of one-off
image hosting service. Useful as a place to stash a single image and
share a link to it. Personally I have limited use for that.

I prefer to be able to create galleries of related images as well as
sharing links to individual images. Flickr is still good for that,
though a few folks here have issues with it.

Tumblr seems to be quite good as a place for both small galleries and
single images. If you choose a clean profile template your Tumblr will
be nice looking too.

Both Flickr and Tumblr have been around for a long time and appear to
have years ahead of them, unlike many of the random image hosting
sites. Both are free to use too.

Some folks really like 500px. I don't, but you might, so have a look.

Not many realize it but Twitter allows posting images and sharing a
link to it. It's not the best looking place, but it's free and works.
And it renders images fast.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 3:58 AM, james  wrote:
>
>
> On 4/12/2016 11:20 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> OT: is Photobucket often this slow? That took ages to come up.
>>
> Seams to be of late. Thinking about changing to something else. Suggestions?
>
>
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Re: December Hummer


Thanks...I do!  :-)

That "collar" kept either darkening or brightening and enlarging as I was 
squinting through the viewfinder.
It must be a Ruby Throat.
So interesting that I almost forgot to release the shutter.
Appreciated, Ann!

J

- Original Message -
From: "ann sanfedele" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 3:31:43 PM
Subject: Re: December Hummer

You must have a good lens :-)

Got him nicely.. so hard to get that "collar" they wear  in full color.

ann


On 12/4/2016 6:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>
> This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.
>
> Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.
>
> C most appreciated.
> Thanks!
>
> J
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138
>


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Re: I just made a Blurb book that no one is going to buy except me!

2016-12-04 Thread Bruce Walker

Both the creation of your book and the typeface you used for it are
great stories. Thank you for them, Mark.


On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
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>
>>There are much, much worse things to spend the money on.
>
> That was my thinking precisely. My cost for the book is about $175 and
> I had a discount code for 40% off which brought it to around $120.00
> including shipping. I had to order a second book after making some
> minor adjustments to 6 or 7 images after the test print. So my total
> cost came to about $240.00. The experience of making a portfolio book
> like this is far more beneficial (from an education/experience
> standpoint alone) to my photography than any piece of camera gear or
> software I could have bought for that amount.
>
> Incidentally, my costs included the purchase of the DOves Regular font
> specifically for this project. The book is set entirely in this
> typeface. If you haven't heard about it's a fascinating story:
> http://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21591793-legendary-typeface-gets-second-life-fight-over-doves
> http://gizmodo.com/the-gorgeous-typeface-that-drove-men-mad-and-sparked-a-1686081182
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Re: December Hummer


You must have a good lens :-)

Got him nicely.. so hard to get that "collar" they wear  in full color.

ann


On 12/4/2016 6:04 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.

Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.

C most appreciated.
Thanks!

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138




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Re: December Hummer

I agree with you about the background. The Hummer sort of melts into it.
Was(is) an overcast day which likely saved some hot spots.

Thanks, Ken!

J

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Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 3:23:08 PM
Subject: Re: December Hummer

I don't care for the background but otherwise its a well focused and 
captured image. Better than any Hummer shot I have.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 
Subject: December Hummer


>
>
> This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.
>
> Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.
>
> C most appreciated.
> Thanks!
>
> J
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138


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Re: December Hummer

2016-12-04 Thread Ken Waller

I don't care for the background but otherwise its a well focused and 
captured image. Better than any Hummer shot I have.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 

Subject: December Hummer





This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.

Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.

C most appreciated.
Thanks!

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=1138



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Re: I just made a Blurb book that no one is going to buy except me!


guess you won't be doing an E book :-)

I like the subway one and Darwin the best of what we are allowed tosee 
of the 44 in the portfolio...  but I imagine I've seen most all of them 
somewhere anyway.



Good on ya - it must have been fun

ann


On 12/1/2016 2:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

OK, seriously, it's intended more as a portfolio piece than a book for
people to buy. I thought about making a portfolio in the standard way,
doing my own prints and everything and getting some kind of album or
box to put them in. But it just seemed like a hell of a lot of work
(and expense). So I decided to make a large Blurb book just for
myself. It's big (12" x 12") and printed on the most expensive paper
Blurb offers could order and with the most deluxe options available
(ImageWrap hardcover, special end papers, etc.). But, hey, if anyone
wants one... it can be yours for $250.00!
http://www.blurb.com/b/7563487-time-exposure
  



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Re: Tonight I got a little Messier

Loved your prose,
B
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> On Dec 4, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 4 Dec 2016, at 21:51, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>> 
>>> Larry,
>>> 
>>> I haven't done much of astro-photography, so, I am just
>>> curious: why focusing at infinity wouldn't work in this case
>>> (i.e. turning the focusing ring to the end of the range)?
>>> Is it just because the particular lens(es) are not designed or
>>> manufactured well for infinity focus? (E.g. they have "beyond infinity"
>>> focus at the end of the wring range.)
>> 
>> Exactly. I've been told that "to infinity and beyond" is necessary for 
>> autofocus, although that doesn't seem true for my FA77.  I suspect that it's 
>> just a lot less expensive to guarantee that a camera will focus past 
>> infinity than to carefully calibrate to go exactly to infinity.  I wonder 
>> how much sample variation there is in registration distance between the 
>> mount and the sensor, as that would also affect the "infinity focus point".
> 
> Owing to the curvature of spacetime it should be possible with that lens to 
> photograph the back of your own head. 
> 
> But you'll probably have to wait until the day before yesterday to do it.
> 
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Re: Coyles in USA




John wrote:

I think maybe the reason there are so many homeless in San Francisco is
because it's one of the few places where they're not abused as much.


Everybody agrees that homelessness is a terrible humanitarian crisis and 
something should be done about it, in someone else's back yard.


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December Hummer



This P M from our fall garbed Japanese Maple.

Tripod mounted D FA 150-450.

C most appreciated.
Thanks!

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Re: Tonight I got a little Messier

2016-12-04 Thread Zos Xavius

Most lenses go beyond infinity for two reasons: they focus shift and
need the extra room to reach infinity or they are designed to deal
with temperature fluctuations. A cold lens shrinks.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> I haven't done much of astro-photography, so, I am just
>> curious: why focusing at infinity wouldn't work in this case
>> (i.e. turning the focusing ring to the end of the range)?
>> Is it just because the particular lens(es) are not designed or
>> manufactured well for infinity focus? (E.g. they have "beyond infinity"
>> focus at the end of the wring range.)
>
>
> Exactly. I've been told that "to infinity and beyond" is necessary for
> autofocus, although that doesn't seem true for my FA77.  I suspect that it's
> just a lot less expensive to guarantee that a camera will focus past
> infinity than to carefully calibrate to go exactly to infinity.  I wonder
> how much sample variation there is in registration distance between the
> mount and the sensor, as that would also affect the "infinity focus point".
>
>
>>
>> Igor
>>
>>
>> Larry Colen Sun, 04 Dec 2016 11:49:18 -0800 wrote:
>>
>> Jostein wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Your results are on par with what I've got from single exposures with
>> the Sigma 500/4.5. Proper focusing seems to be the limiting factor
>> rather than actual MTF resolution.
>>
>>
>> Yes, focusing was a real challenge. If I remember to bring my green
>> laser, I can aim that at a distant point and have something to focus on.
>> I probably should have tried focusing on Sirius, it was a lot brighter.
>>
>>
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Re: Nice shot


what Dan said

I thought the original mag was called Cotty Cam.. I guess that was one 
of the spin offs


ann


On 12/2/2016 11:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bill  wrote:


Brad Dodo


Brad Dodo -- now that's a real blast from the past!

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Re: Process & Scan

2016-12-04 Thread Ken Waller

Collin, sorry it took so long to respond but I had to root around to find 
this info -
The place you want to have process your E6 is AGX Processing 
http://www.agximaging.com/


I used them the last several years I shot film (I went digital in 2004) at 
the recommendation of a pro Outdoor Photog.
AGX is without a doubt the best processing I've ever experienced. He's 
processed several thousand rolls of film for me without any issues at all. 
His prices were a little above what I was paying at other processors but I 
knew I was getting what I was paying for.


Check him out

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- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 3:13 PM
Subject: Process & Scan


Anyone have a preferred shop (would like eastern US) for E6 process & 
scan?



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Re: Tonight I got a little Messier

2016-12-04 Thread Bob W-PDML


On 4 Dec 2016, at 21:51, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>> 
>> Larry,
>> 
>> I haven't done much of astro-photography, so, I am just
>> curious: why focusing at infinity wouldn't work in this case
>> (i.e. turning the focusing ring to the end of the range)?
>> Is it just because the particular lens(es) are not designed or
>> manufactured well for infinity focus? (E.g. they have "beyond infinity"
>> focus at the end of the wring range.)
> 
> Exactly. I've been told that "to infinity and beyond" is necessary for 
> autofocus, although that doesn't seem true for my FA77.  I suspect that it's 
> just a lot less expensive to guarantee that a camera will focus past infinity 
> than to carefully calibrate to go exactly to infinity.  I wonder how much 
> sample variation there is in registration distance between the mount and the 
> sensor, as that would also affect the "infinity focus point".
>> 

Owing to the curvature of spacetime it should be possible with that lens to 
photograph the back of your own head. 

But you'll probably have to wait until the day before yesterday to do it.

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Re: Tonight I got a little Messier




Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Larry,

I haven't done much of astro-photography, so, I am just
curious: why focusing at infinity wouldn't work in this case
(i.e. turning the focusing ring to the end of the range)?
Is it just because the particular lens(es) are not designed or
manufactured well for infinity focus? (E.g. they have "beyond infinity"
focus at the end of the wring range.)


Exactly. I've been told that "to infinity and beyond" is necessary for 
autofocus, although that doesn't seem true for my FA77.  I suspect that 
it's just a lot less expensive to guarantee that a camera will focus 
past infinity than to carefully calibrate to go exactly to infinity.  I 
wonder how much sample variation there is in registration distance 
between the mount and the sensor, as that would also affect the 
"infinity focus point".





Igor


Larry Colen Sun, 04 Dec 2016 11:49:18 -0800 wrote:

Jostein wrote:



Your results are on par with what I've got from single exposures with
the Sigma 500/4.5. Proper focusing seems to be the limiting factor
rather than actual MTF resolution.


Yes, focusing was a real challenge. If I remember to bring my green
laser, I can aim that at a distant point and have something to focus on.
I probably should have tried focusing on Sirius, it was a lot brighter.




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Re: I just made a Blurb book that no one is going to buy except me!

2016-12-04 Thread Mark Roberts

mike wilson wrote:

>> On 02 December 2016 at 21:59 Mark Roberts  wrote:
>> 
>> mike wilson wrote:
>> 
>> >There are much, much worse things to spend the money on.
>> 
>> That was my thinking precisely. My cost for the book is about $175 and
>> I had a discount code for 40% off which brought it to around $120.00
>> including shipping. I had to order a second book after making some
>> minor adjustments to 6 or 7 images after the test print. So my total
>> cost came to about $240.00. The experience of making a portfolio book
>> like this is far more beneficial (from an education/experience
>> standpoint alone) to my photography than any piece of camera gear or
>> software I could have bought for that amount.
>> 
>> Incidentally, my costs included the purchase of the DOves Regular font
>> specifically for this project. The book is set entirely in this
>> typeface. If you haven't heard about it's a fascinating story:
>> http://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21591793-legendary-typeface-gets-second-life-fight-over-doves
>> http://gizmodo.com/the-gorgeous-typeface-that-drove-men-mad-and-sparked-a-1686081182
>
>I'm surprised any of the punches survived; either rust or the acid anaerobic
>conditions in the mud should have eroded them beyond use.

In fact, they only recovered about 150 pieces (out of approximately a
ton of what was dumped). That's a pretty small percentage.

here's another article with some video:
http://www.typespec.co.uk/recovering-the-doves-type/

 
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Re: I just made a Blurb book that no one is going to buy except me!

2016-12-04 Thread mike wilson

> On 04 December 2016 at 21:05 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/4/2016 11:26 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 02 December 2016 at 21:59 Mark Roberts 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> mike wilson wrote:
> >>
> >>> There are much, much worse things to spend the money on.
> >>
> >> That was my thinking precisely. My cost for the book is about $175 and
> >> I had a discount code for 40% off which brought it to around $120.00
> >> including shipping. I had to order a second book after making some
> >> minor adjustments to 6 or 7 images after the test print. So my total
> >> cost came to about $240.00. The experience of making a portfolio book
> >> like this is far more beneficial (from an education/experience
> >> standpoint alone) to my photography than any piece of camera gear or
> >> software I could have bought for that amount.
> >>
> >> Incidentally, my costs included the purchase of the DOves Regular font
> >> specifically for this project. The book is set entirely in this
> >> typeface. If you haven't heard about it's a fascinating story:
> >> http://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21591793-legendary-typeface-gets-second-life-fight-over-doves
> >> http://gizmodo.com/the-gorgeous-typeface-that-drove-men-mad-and-sparked-a-1686081182
> >
> > I'm surprised any of the punches survived; either rust or the acid anaerobic
> > conditions in the mud should have eroded them beyond use.
> >
> 
> Did any of the punches survive? In the images shown, it looked to me
> like all they recovered were typeface slugs.

Re-reading the Gizmodo piece, I think they are confusing punches with type
slugs.

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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-04 Thread Jan van Wijk

Thanks John!

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 15:41:10 -0500 John wrote:
>
>
>The first three - Matthew Hunt's "Sailboat"; Jack Davis's "Winter's
>Grace" and Jan van Wijk's "Sailing Botters" look most tranquil to me.

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Re: December PUG Update

2016-12-04 Thread Jan van Wijk

Thanks Eric,

I also liked Bill's 'Pretty Tanquil' a lot

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 12:44:39 + Eric Featherstone wrote:
>
>
>I think my favourite's would be Jack's Winter's Grace, Jan's Sailing
>Botters, Don's Quiet Park & Bill's Pretty Tranquil.

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Re: I just made a Blurb book that no one is going to buy except me!

2016-12-04 Thread John

On 12/4/2016 11:26 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 02 December 2016 at 21:59 Mark Roberts wrote:

mike wilson wrote:

There are much, much worse things to spend the money on.

That was my thinking precisely. My cost for the book is about $175 and
I had a discount code for 40% off which brought it to around $120.00
including shipping. I had to order a second book after making some
minor adjustments to 6 or 7 images after the test print. So my total
cost came to about $240.00. The experience of making a portfolio book
like this is far more beneficial (from an education/experience
standpoint alone) to my photography than any piece of camera gear or
software I could have bought for that amount.

Incidentally, my costs included the purchase of the DOves Regular font
specifically for this project. The book is set entirely in this
typeface. If you haven't heard about it's a fascinating story:
http://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21591793-legendary-typeface-gets-second-life-fight-over-doves
http://gizmodo.com/the-gorgeous-typeface-that-drove-men-mad-and-sparked-a-1686081182

I'm surprised any of the punches survived; either rust or the acid anaerobic
conditions in the mud should have eroded them beyond use.

Did any of the punches survive? In the images shown, it looked to me
like all they recovered were typeface slugs.

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Re: Coyles in USA

2016-12-04 Thread John


I think maybe the reason there are so many homeless in San Francisco is
because it's one of the few places where they're not abused as much.

On 12/3/2016 7:26 PM, John Coyle wrote:

Hi Ken - thanks, you're welcome! Not sure we had any particular expectations, 
but it was certainly
an interesting experience!  Because we stayed in South San Francisco, we were 
able to see a lot of
the outer suburbs, as well as, thanks to Larry, seeing quite a lot of the 
attractions of the area
too.  The city itself does have a nice feel in many ways, but the number of 
homeless and other
disadvantaged people was quite disturbing: we walked along Howard Street, just 
two blocks down from
Market St, and the difference is manifest: tourists and wealth versus poverty 
and homelessness.

However, overall, we met some great people, and one day will probably return.


John in Brisbane



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A great colllection, thanks for sharing.
Did SFO meet your expectations?

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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-04 Thread John


Thanks. I now have them written down where I can refer to them when needed.

On 12/3/2016 4:22 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016, at 07:41 AM, John wrote:

I was really hoping I could get something in for this month, but there
ain't been much tranquility around here for a while. Don't even have
time to get one job complete before something else goes kablooie & my
list of urgent repair projects just keeps growing and growing.

The first three - Matthew Hunt's "Sailboat"; Jack Davis's "Winter's
Grace" and Jan van Wijk's "Sailing Botters" look most tranquil to me.

Remind me again what the 2017 themes are? I checked the submission page
& it's still showing 2016 even after I refreshed the view. I got "Doors"
for January & maybe I'll have something for that, but I'd like to be
looking ahead for the rest of the year. If I start looking around now, I
might be able to do something.




January; Doors
February; This Sporting Life
March; Geometric Shapes in Nature
April; 20th Anniversary Gallery
May; Leading Lines
June; Mountains
July; Leaves
August; City Transportation
September; Abandoned
October; Nakedness
November; Less is More
December; National Parks

I'll try to get around to updating the Submissions Guidelines page later
today - or maybe tomorrow...


Cheers

Brian

++
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Re: Tonight I got a little Messier

2016-12-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR



Larry,

I haven't done much of astro-photography, so, I am just
curious: why focusing at infinity wouldn't work in this case
(i.e. turning the focusing ring to the end of the range)?
Is it just because the particular lens(es) are not designed or 
manufactured well for infinity focus? (E.g. they have "beyond infinity" 
focus at the end of the wring range.)


Igor


Larry Colen Sun, 04 Dec 2016 11:49:18 -0800 wrote:

Jostein wrote:



Your results are on par with what I've got from single exposures with
the Sigma 500/4.5. Proper focusing seems to be the limiting factor
rather than actual MTF resolution.


Yes, focusing was a real challenge. If I remember to bring my green laser, 
I can aim that at a distant point and have something to focus on. I 
probably should have tried focusing on Sirius, it was a lot brighter.



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Re: Tonight I got a little Messier


Thanks Jostein, also Malcolm, and all who looked.

Jostein wrote:

Well done you.
The Orion season starts a little later up here. It's a bit low on the
horizon yet, with light pollution and heat shimmer getting in the way.


To make up for it, you have a much better Aurora season than we do.



Your results are on par with what I've got from single exposures with
the Sigma 500/4.5. Proper focusing seems to be the limiting factor
rather than actual MTF resolution.


Yes, focusing was a real challenge. If I remember to bring my green 
laser, I can aim that at a distant point and have something to focus on. 
I probably should have tried focusing on Sirius, it was a lot brighter.



I think it's about time you start
looking into multiple exposures and astrophoto stacking.


I tried that once and didn't have any luck with the software I used, it 
wasn't significantly better than what I got with one frame. I'm curious 
if anybody has stacking software they like that runs on macs (or linux)


Then there's the detail that no matter what I do, someone with good 
equipment (up to and including the hubble) is going to be able to do a 
lot better, and there isn't a lot of room for artistic expression. It's 
not that I wouldn't enjoy going down the astrophotography rabbit hole, 
but when it comes to hobbies I could throw time and money down, those 
rabbit holes start looking like Watership downs.


I am amused to note that the designation for Orion is M42.



Jostein

Den 04.12.2016 12.57, skrev Larry Colen:

Inspired by actually being able to see it in photos with the FA77 I had
a go at photographing the Orion nebula.

Here it is with the bigma, 500mm, wide open at f/6.7, ISO 800,
astrotracer only seems to work up to about 10 seconds at 500mm. However,
that beats the rule of 600 by a factor of 8.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/31373955206/in/album-72157675801391901/




I blew it, I meant to post the fluidr link for the exif data:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675801391901





For those that are interested in my experimentation, here's the full
album. It was cloudy when I got to the top of bear creek, so the first
few are a bit artsy fartsy. Using the fluidr link so you can see the
exif. The photos are cropped pretty tight:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675801391901





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Street photography enablement.

2016-12-04 Thread Bipin Gupta

The Great Masters of Street Photography like Robert Doisneau, Sam
Leiter, Henri Cartier Bresson, George Rodger, William Vandivert, Maria
Eisner etc, all shot with cameras that are considered so primitive
compared with today's gear.

So saying that the K-1 is better or the K-3 or the K-70 is just plain
semantics & a non issue

See some of the period photos here - of mind boggling artistic
interest & quality:-

http://www.streetphotographyintheworld.com/category/masters-of-street-photography-by-carlo-traina/

For the last 28 years I have been quite comfortable at Street
Photography with a Rolleiflex F TLR, a Leica R-5 SLR, a high end Canon
P, & more recently the K-5 IIs.

Any camera with a decent wide angle lens is great for Street
Photography - the smaller the better.

Regards.
Bipin.
from the Computer Capital of the World - Bangalore.

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Re: OT Geso

2016-12-04 Thread Bob W-PDML

Fantastic. I was hoping for some scary clowns this year though. DSCF1061 is 
close, and 1044 has something of a David Lynch quality about it.

B

> On 4 Dec 2016, at 16:39, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> from yesterdays santa claus parade
> 
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> 
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Re: OT Geso

Well documented annual tradition!

J

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OT Geso

2016-12-04 Thread David J Brooks

from yesterdays santa claus parade

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2016-parade/album/index.html

X30 and LR 4.4

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Re: I just made a Blurb book that no one is going to buy except me!

2016-12-04 Thread mike wilson

> On 02 December 2016 at 21:59 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
> >There are much, much worse things to spend the money on.
> 
> That was my thinking precisely. My cost for the book is about $175 and
> I had a discount code for 40% off which brought it to around $120.00
> including shipping. I had to order a second book after making some
> minor adjustments to 6 or 7 images after the test print. So my total
> cost came to about $240.00. The experience of making a portfolio book
> like this is far more beneficial (from an education/experience
> standpoint alone) to my photography than any piece of camera gear or
> software I could have bought for that amount.
> 
> Incidentally, my costs included the purchase of the DOves Regular font
> specifically for this project. The book is set entirely in this
> typeface. If you haven't heard about it's a fascinating story:
> http://www.economist.com/news/christmas-specials/21591793-legendary-typeface-gets-second-life-fight-over-doves
> http://gizmodo.com/the-gorgeous-typeface-that-drove-men-mad-and-sparked-a-1686081182

I'm surprised any of the punches survived; either rust or the acid anaerobic
conditions in the mud should have eroded them beyond use.

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Re: K-1 and 77 Limited

2016-12-04 Thread mike wilson

> On 02 December 2016 at 21:41 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> So Lisa and I made our traditional hiking trip to the White Mountains
> in New Hampshire over Thanksgiving. I didn't get a huge number of
> keepers but it was a nice trip anyway. We hiked up Mt Tom (4050 ft)
> and found quite a lot of the birds were well habituated to human
> presence; they were obviously looking for food  and had learned humans
> were only too happy to provide it in many cases.
> Here's a shot of a chickadee taken with the K-1 and the 77/1.8 Ltd,
> ISO 400, 1/500 @ f/2.8
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop2.jpg
> That's the full image, no cropping, downsized to 800px height.
> 
> And now here's a crop at 100% magnification. No sharpening.
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e005336crop.jpg
>  

Oh dear.  More expense in  my near future.  Time to start hiding the bank
statements, again.

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Re: December PUG Update

2016-12-04 Thread Bruce Walker

That zooming sound you heard was your joke going right over me.  But
you're right; I shall now maintain that that is what is in Annie's
cup. :)


On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 9:23 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> As to the faux tea - I only wanted you to notice I knew about the brand and
> figured you considered it when you use this one for the theme.
>
> ann
>
>
> On 12/3/2016 8:14 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:37 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> The whole gallery is appreciated, especially now.. .
>>>
>>> Myy 4 personal favorites line up in the index page in the second column
>>> Jack,Eric,Bill, Bruce..
>>>
>>> I think I remember Jack's from some time ago -- really stunning..
>>>
>>> Eric's Constable -homage- (or so it seams to me) is right up there too
>>>
>>> Wheatfield's peaceful lake - yum
>>>
>>> Bruce - just about my all time favorite of your photos.. super light,
>>> nice
>>> pose, etc and I presume she is drinking the appropriate brand of
>>> tea...:-)
>>>
>>> ann
>>
>> Thank you very much, Ann. I'm very pleased about that!
>>
>> I hope it doesn't diminish your enjoyment to learn that Annie is a
>> pretty good actor and the cup was in fact empty. But I believe she may
>> be a tea drinker. :)
>>
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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 9:45 AM, P.J. Alling 
wrote:

> Let's be fair, haven't all your recent Governors looked or acted like
> extras from the Sopranos?


Not all of them.  This one was a friend and political ally:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Todd_Whitman

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Re: Heavenly Cross

2016-12-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Thanks for looking and commenting, Ann and Paul,


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On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Thanks Ann. I found it. Good photo, but as you said, strange rendering of
> the cross. A cultural difference I assume.
>
> Paul via phone
>
> > On Dec 3, 2016, at 6:50 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >
> > Paul - there is a link in Dan's original post.. it got stripped out in
> Bipans reply
> >
> > I find the cross rather creepy - the sacred heart too graphic
> > ann
> >
> >> On 12/2/2016 6:40 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >> No link.
> >>
> >> Paul via phone
> >>
> >>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That was an iconic photo, rendered very well against an expansive sky.
> >>>
> >>> But Dan, take a close and thoughtful look at the center vertical arm
> of the
> >>> cross - kind of a very familiar shape.
> >>> That Artist or Sculptor has left his mark very well on the Cross.
> >>>
> >>> Regards.
> >>> Bipin.
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Re: Tonight I got a little Messier

2016-12-04 Thread Jostein


Well done you.
The Orion season starts a little later up here. It's a bit low on the 
horizon yet, with light pollution and heat shimmer getting in the way.


Your results are on par with what I've got from single exposures with 
the Sigma 500/4.5. Proper focusing seems to be the limiting factor 
rather than actual MTF resolution. I think it's about time you start 
looking into multiple exposures and astrophoto stacking.


Jostein

Den 04.12.2016 12.57, skrev Larry Colen:

Inspired by actually being able to see it in photos with the FA77 I had
a go at photographing the Orion nebula.

Here it is with the bigma, 500mm, wide open at f/6.7, ISO 800,
astrotracer only seems to work up to about 10 seconds at 500mm. However,
that beats the rule of 600 by a factor of 8.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/31373955206/in/album-72157675801391901/


For those that are interested in my experimentation, here's the full
album. It was cloudy when I got to the top of bear creek, so the first
few are a bit artsy fartsy.  Using the fluidr link so you can see the
exif.  The photos are cropped pretty tight:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675801391901



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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)


That's hardly fair, Christie does cast a large shadow.

On 12/2/2016 11:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:37 PM, John  wrote:


I'll see your Chris Christie & raise you Pat McCrory.


McCrory is shy and self-effacing compared to Christie, and would disappear
into his shadow.

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

Let's be fair, haven't all your recent Governors looked or acted like 
extras from the Sopranos?


On 12/2/2016 4:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark in one sitting.


You can't imagine how much extra snark we have lying around here.  What
other state could have a guy that looks and acts like an extra from the
Sopranos for its governor?

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)


Wait, isn't snark an inexhaustible resource in New Jersey?

On 12/2/2016 3:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On December 1, 2016 9:49:31 PM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, John  wrote:


We're using common names, while Dan is referring to Taxonomic
classification.


Not to be argumentative, but no, I'm also using a common name, just the
correct one.

Careful, if you keep that up you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark in 
one sitting.


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Re: Nice shot


On 12/2/2016 11:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bill  wrote:


Brad Dodo


Brad Dodo -- now that's a real blast from the past!

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Sadly he wasn't the worst...

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Re: Nice shot

That's not 'quite' the saddest attempt I've ever seen.

On 12/1/2016 6:32 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

Like this one?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Rvf9pxSORSA/UwENBC1UcgI/CW0/QH578WzUGjw/s1600/3+Selfportrait+as+a+drag.jpg

...

On 1 Dec 2016, at 18:25, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> wrote:

That just means you haven't found the right female yet. Some of those 8,000 out 
there will respond: try the ones with a tattoo and five-o'clock shadow for 
better luck.

]'-)

G

On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Bob W-PDML 
> wrote:

I've tried to impress females by doing that, and it just doesn't work. No 
wonder there are only 8,000 of them left.

B

On 1 Dec 2016, at 16:49, Gonz 
> wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNbvse5DSoW/?taken-by=natgeo=en

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PESO: The Installation

Another piece for the Tate Modern; a transition piece possibly between 'The
Unmade Bed' & 'Equivalent VIII'.

 

  http://flic.kr/p/PQdZqt

 

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Re: K-1 quirks

2016-12-04 Thread Zos Xavius

I checked on the K-5 IIs I have here and AF-C works with the AF IR
beam on the flash and the flash fires. I would imagine the K-3 is the
same because I usually leave it in AF-C. Mine is at a friend's house
right now though so I cannot check. Have you tried a pentax flash with
it? It might be that it isn't liking your flash.

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Re: K-1 quirks

2016-12-04 Thread Zos Xavius

If you have the rear screen turned off on the K-3 it doesn't flash the
mode as well. Best I can say is to memorize the number of clicks to
your next preferred mode. You can usually tell what mode it is in by
what settings are changeable in the viewfinder too. Like on the K-5
IIs AV and M are only two clicks apart. I think they are all like that
with TAv in between.

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> Another one that I forgot to ask about.  With all of my other cameras, when
> I'd change the mode (M, Av, TAv, Tv ...) it would briefly display on the
> back LCD what the new mode was. Now, that doesn't happen.  There doesn't
> seem to be a way to see the shooting mode in the dark without going to the
> idiot screen on the back that shows everything, shines in your face and runs
> the battery down.  Am I missing a menu item to show that info?
>
>
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>>
>> I'm sharing this because it just bit me. I was using AF-C mode and it
>> disabled the autofocus assist light. It also seems to disable the flash.
>>
>> Despite doing the software upgrade a few weeks ago, my metz 58 is still
>> not working with the K-1. On the K-5 it shows PTTL, but on the K-1, just
>> TTL, and seems to always fire at full power.
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RE: Tonight I got a little Messier

Larry Colen wrote:

Inspired by actually being able to see it in photos with the FA77 I had a go
at photographing the Orion nebula.

Here it is with the bigma, 500mm, wide open at f/6.7, ISO 800, astrotracer
only seems to work up to about 10 seconds at 500mm. However, that beats the
rule of 600 by a factor of 8.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/31373955206/in/album-7215767580139190
1/

For those that are interested in my experimentation, here's the full album.
It was cloudy when I got to the top of bear creek, so the first few are a
bit artsy fartsy.  Using the fluidr link so you can see the exif.  The
photos are cropped pretty tight:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675801391901
+++

Lovely gallery, but by a nose 31459 for me.

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Re: December PUG Update

2016-12-04 Thread Eric Featherstone

Gosh! Thanks, Ann!

I think my favourite's would be Jack's Winter's Grace, Jan's Sailing
Botters, Don's Quiet Park & Bill's Pretty Tranquil.

On 3 December 2016 at 23:37, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> The whole gallery is appreciated, especially now.. .
>
> Myy 4 personal favorites line up in the index page in the second column
> Jack,Eric,Bill, Bruce..
>
> I think I remember Jack's from some time ago -- really stunning..
>
> Eric's Constable -homage- (or so it seams to me) is right up there too
>
> Wheatfield's peaceful lake - yum
>
> Bruce - just about my all time favorite of your photos.. super light, nice
> pose, etc and I presume she is drinking the appropriate brand of
> tea...:-)
>
> ann
>
>
> On 12/3/2016 4:45 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>
>> Jack took my less than subtle hist and sent a larger version of
>> 'Winter's Grace'.
>>
>> Much more enjoyable, I think...
>>
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/16dec/slides/JD%20-%20Winter%27s%20Grace%20GB%20II%20copy.html
>>
>> Thanks Jack.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>
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Re: PESO - Odd Juxtaposition




Rick Womer wrote:

The San Diego Maritime Museum occupies a stretch of the waterfront, with an 
eclectic collection of vessels oddly arranged.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18316412


Great job!


(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated.

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Tonight I got a little Messier

Inspired by actually being able to see it in photos with the FA77 I had 
a go at photographing the Orion nebula.


Here it is with the bigma, 500mm, wide open at f/6.7, ISO 800, 
astrotracer only seems to work up to about 10 seconds at 500mm. However, 
that beats the rule of 600 by a factor of 8.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/31373955206/in/album-72157675801391901/

For those that are interested in my experimentation, here's the full 
album. It was cloudy when I got to the top of bear creek, so the first 
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exif.  The photos are cropped pretty tight:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157675801391901

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Re: PESO - Odd Juxtaposition

Agree with Malcolm!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2016, at 1:26 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> Rick Womer wrote:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18316412
> +++
> 
> A mixture it is. Wonderful light.
> 
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RE: PESO - Odd Juxtaposition

Rick Womer wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18316412
+++

A mixture it is. Wonderful light.

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RE: PESO. Electrical activity