date:20171024

Seen in Lower Manhattan:

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Re: New toy

That is indeed a fine camera.

I had a 6X7, which was an earlier and more basic version on the 67.  It was
an amazing machine, and the lenses were huge chunks of glass.  I sold the
camera and the lenses years ago, after I went digital.  I still miss it at
times.


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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:18 PM,  wrote:

> It says 67 on the front, so I'm guessing that's what it is.
>
> On October 24, 2017 6:56:28 PM PDT, Paul Stenquist 
> wrote:
> >The shutter won't function without film. There's a lever of some sort
> >in there that is moved when film is loaded. You can manually depress it
> >to get the shutter to fire. Plenty of documentation for this on the
> >web. Unfortunately I sold all my 6x7 lenses long ago. If it's truly a
> >67 rather than a 6x7, it's a premium piece.
> >
> >Paul via phone
> >
> >> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:33 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
> >> 4127460
> >>
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> >battery
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Re: New toy

2017-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist

Excellent. A nice piece.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 10:18 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> It says 67 on the front, so I'm guessing that's what it is.
> 
>> On October 24, 2017 6:56:28 PM PDT, Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>> The shutter won't function without film. There's a lever of some sort
>> in there that is moved when film is loaded. You can manually depress it
>> to get the shutter to fire. Plenty of documentation for this on the
>> web. Unfortunately I sold all my 6x7 lenses long ago. If it's truly a
>> 67 rather than a 6x7, it's a premium piece.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:33 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
>>> 4127460
>>> 
>>> Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter
>> doesn't seem to go, but that could be from no film, no lens, no
>> battery
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Re: New toy

2017-10-24 Thread lrc

It says 67 on the front, so I'm guessing that's what it is.

On October 24, 2017 6:56:28 PM PDT, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>The shutter won't function without film. There's a lever of some sort
>in there that is moved when film is loaded. You can manually depress it
>to get the shutter to fire. Plenty of documentation for this on the
>web. Unfortunately I sold all my 6x7 lenses long ago. If it's truly a
>67 rather than a 6x7, it's a premium piece.
>
>Paul via phone
>
>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:33 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> 
>> I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
>> 4127460
>> 
>> Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter
>doesn't seem to go, but that could be from no film, no lens, no
>battery
>> 
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PESO: Oculus from above

View from the Observatory high within the Freedom Tower, One World Trade
Center:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/24/oculus3

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Re: New toy

2017-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist

The shutter won't function without film. There's a lever of some sort in there 
that is moved when film is loaded. You can manually depress it to get the 
shutter to fire. Plenty of documentation for this on the web. Unfortunately I 
sold all my 6x7 lenses long ago. If it's truly a 67 rather than a 6x7, it's a 
premium piece.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 9:33 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
> 4127460
> 
> Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter doesn't 
> seem to go, but that could be from no film, no lens, no battery
> 
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New toy

2017-10-24 Thread lrc

 I was just given a 67 body. Serial number
4127460

Does anybody have a lens I could borrow to try it out?  The shutter doesn't 
seem to go, but that could be from no film, no lens, no battery

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Re: Inside the Oculus

Thanks, Ann

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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:32 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> hehe - Dan, see my response to Alan before I saw this..
> in this case, same "view|" one viewpoints.. well.. you said it
>
> ann
>
>
> On 10/24/2017 4:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
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>> Thanks, Alan.
>>
>> I would expect Ann's viewpoint to be quite different from mine.
>>
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>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, It is impressive. Ann posted a different view a while ago.
>>>
>>> Alan C
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
>>> Sent: 24 October, 2017 5:30 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Inside the Oculus
>>>
>>>
>>> The Oculus at the World Trade Center is a magnificent transportation hub
>>> with a high end shopping mall:
>>>
>>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/24/oculus1
>>>
>>> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
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Re: Peso-Sand Hill Cranes


what you show is what matters

ann

On 10/24/2017 7:58 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks, Ann!
When I'm shooting birdies in flight
all I can hope for is getting all of
the rapidly changing composition
within a single frame.
This was one of several burst groups
that partially succeeded. They were
both well above center with the left
bird very near the left frame edge.
I had to rebuild the frame to reposition the Sandies(?) Also,
I moved the smaller left bird
closer to the right one for
compositional balance, of course.
These targets don't lend themselves
to deliberate compositions.
I take credit only for choosing to post it.
  
J




Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:17 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Nice grab, Jack  ..
good crop if you cropped, amazing framing if you did it all in the camera :-)

I love Sandies

ann



On 10/23/2017 4:22 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Appreciated remarks, Dan!
Always generous!

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 23, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Great capture, especially as you managed to get them in the same posture,
under an attractive sky.


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On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:



A couple passing Sand Hill Cranes at Gray Lodge, local State Wildlife Area.
Left Crane slightly further away.
Rare to see in this area.

C? Thanks!

DFA/K3

J

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Re: PESO: Oculus arising

Thanks, Ann.  It certainly is a stunning structure !


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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:41 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> I've never seen it from -that- viewpoint  -  Really nice capture, Dan!
> I have taken fragments of it a couple times... and more than one shot
> inside..
> I think it is a beautiful structure
>
> ann
>
>
> On 10/24/2017 4:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
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>> Another from the World Trade Center:
>>
>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/24/oculus2
>>
>> Comments are appreciated.
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Re: Milwaukee

2017-10-24 Thread Rick Womer

Paul,

No, I didn’t get your message.

Rick

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 5:25 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
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> Rick -
> 
> Sending you a reply off list.  Let me know if you don't receive it.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 10/19/2017 9:26 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> Paul,
>> 
>> Traveling with my wife, who will be at a conference Thursday afternoon and
>> all day Saturday. Friday we plan to be tourists together.
>> 
>> Flying in and out of O’Hare, and renting a car. We’re staying at the
>> downtown Hyatt.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>> 
>> Rick -
>> 
>> Still trying to sort out with other family members whether the Chicago trip
>> will be Saturday or Sunday.  Should have things nailed down by this coming
>> weekend.
>> 
>> Some further info about your travels will be helpful in making some
>> recommendations.
>> 
>> Travelling alone?  Lodging location?  Will you have a vehicle available?
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/17/2017 2:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> 
>> Paul,
>> 
>> Any update on your plans yet?
>> 
>> If you're going to Chicago instead, your inside tips on sights and
>> restaurants (both beer-oriented and fine dining) would be most
>> welcome.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
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>> I think I'm the only PDMLer in the MKE area.  We may have to be in Chicago
>> that day, but plans aren't firm as of yet.  If we're not traveling it would
>> be great to get together...will keep you updated to see if we can meet up.
>> Worst case, I can at least recommend some sights to see and visit.
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/2/2017 10:12 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll be playing tourist in Milwaukee on Saturday Oct 28.
>> 
>> I’d love to get together with any PDMLers in the area.
>> 
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Re: Peso-Sand Hill Cranes

Pleasing to read, Paul!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Superb!
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 7:58 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Ann!
>> When I'm shooting birdies in flight
>> all I can hope for is getting all of
>> the rapidly changing composition
>> within a single frame.
>> This was one of several burst groups
>> that partially succeeded. They were
>> both well above center with the left
>> bird very near the left frame edge.
>> I had to rebuild the frame to reposition the Sandies(?) Also,
>> I moved the smaller left bird 
>> closer to the right one for
>> compositional balance, of course.
>> These targets don't lend themselves
>> to deliberate compositions. 
>> I take credit only for choosing to post it.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:17 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nice grab, Jack  ..
>>> good crop if you cropped, amazing framing if you did it all in the camera 
>>> :-)
>>> 
>>> I love Sandies
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10/23/2017 4:22 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
 Appreciated remarks, Dan!
 Always generous!
 
 J
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 23, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
> 
> Great capture, especially as you managed to get them in the same posture,
> under an attractive sky.
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Jack Davis  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A couple passing Sand Hill Cranes at Gray Lodge, local State Wildlife 
>> Area.
>> Left Crane slightly further away.
>> Rare to see in this area.
>> 
>> C? Thanks!
>> 
>> DFA/K3
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431662
>> 
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Re: Peso-Sand Hill Cranes

2017-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist

Superb!

Paul via phone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 7:58 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Ann!
> When I'm shooting birdies in flight
> all I can hope for is getting all of
> the rapidly changing composition
> within a single frame.
> This was one of several burst groups
> that partially succeeded. They were
> both well above center with the left
> bird very near the left frame edge.
> I had to rebuild the frame to reposition the Sandies(?) Also,
> I moved the smaller left bird 
> closer to the right one for
> compositional balance, of course.
> These targets don't lend themselves
> to deliberate compositions. 
> I take credit only for choosing to post it.
> 
> J
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:17 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice grab, Jack  ..
>> good crop if you cropped, amazing framing if you did it all in the camera :-)
>> 
>> I love Sandies
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/23/2017 4:22 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>> Appreciated remarks, Dan!
>>> Always generous!
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
 wrote:
 
 Great capture, especially as you managed to get them in the same posture,
 under an attractive sky.
 
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> A couple passing Sand Hill Cranes at Gray Lodge, local State Wildlife 
> Area.
> Left Crane slightly further away.
> Rare to see in this area.
> 
> C? Thanks!
> 
> DFA/K3
> 
> J
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431662
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Re: Peso-Sand Hill Cranes

Thanks, Ann!
When I'm shooting birdies in flight
all I can hope for is getting all of
the rapidly changing composition
within a single frame.
This was one of several burst groups
that partially succeeded. They were
both well above center with the left
bird very near the left frame edge.
I had to rebuild the frame to reposition the Sandies(?) Also,
I moved the smaller left bird 
closer to the right one for
compositional balance, of course.
These targets don't lend themselves
to deliberate compositions. 
I take credit only for choosing to post it.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 4:17 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Nice grab, Jack  ..
> good crop if you cropped, amazing framing if you did it all in the camera :-)
> 
> I love Sandies
> 
> ann
> 
> 
>> On 10/23/2017 4:22 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Appreciated remarks, Dan!
>> Always generous!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great capture, especially as you managed to get them in the same posture,
>>> under an attractive sky.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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 On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:

 A couple passing Sand Hill Cranes at Gray Lodge, local State Wildlife Area.
 Left Crane slightly further away.
 Rare to see in this area.

 C? Thanks!

 DFA/K3

 J

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Re: Peso;s late fall

I particularly like the old mill - I think I might have said that when I 
saw them on facebook :-)

ann

On 10/24/2017 11:32 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

After more fumbling around i loaded up some shots from this weekend
and it still takes me a while to remember how to find the file number
to share.Arg.



https://www.photo.net/photo/18431836/
Old church in Salerm Ontario

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431835/
Old church in Varroom ontario

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431834/
Old mill Udora Ontario


https://www.photo.net/photo/18431833/
dead tree with live tree Uxbridge Ontario

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Re: Shocked that he was sued for stealing photography

I agree with Stan - because all those images that Getty  has are images 
also owned by the photographer who
is in the stock agency, whether or not Getty has put a photographers 
name on the image as a watermark.


ann


On 10/24/2017 10:55 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

On Oct 23, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Getty is among those who profit from innocent use of their copyrighted
images.

A client of mine posted on her site an image forwarded to her by a
customer, them was sued by Getty for having the image on her site for less
than two days.


Dan Matyola
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So, your client used an image on her site whose provenance she did not know or 
question?  I wouldn’t consider that “innocent use”, I would consider it 
carelessness or stupidity.

Getty is in the business of selling images. Of course they should sue for 
misuse of their property, usage of their images without permission. They are 
foolish if they do not protect the source of their income. They should be able 
to profit from ANY use of their images, whether “innocent” or not. Saying that 
they “profit from innocent use” paints a rather dark, and in my opinion, a 
rather biased view of Getty.

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Re: PESO: Oculus arising


I've never seen it from -that- viewpoint  -  Really nice capture, Dan!
I have taken fragments of it a couple times... and more than one shot 
inside..

I think it is a beautiful structure

ann

On 10/24/2017 4:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Another from the World Trade Center:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/24/oculus2

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Re: OT people matching artwork


Thanks Larry, Dan and Alan --
Hope everyone looks at all those by other people on that site and don't 
think

the link I showed of mine was the only one :-)

I do wonder if some of those were sort of manufactured... the matches 
seem almost too good to be true.


ann
On 10/24/2017 12:48 AM, Alan C wrote:

You're too modest. Wee caught.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
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Subject: Re: OT people matching artwork

WOW!  Yours is just super, Ann.


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On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:26 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


I love those actually...
Here is mine - but I didn't wait for it more than a a minute or so, if
that.  grab shot a MOMA
not as precise as the others but close I think
https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Very-recen
t-NYC/i-M3BrgLV/A

ann


On 10/23/2017 1:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:




https://www.boredpanda.com/people-matching-artworks-stefan-draschan/





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Re: Inside the Oculus


hehe - Dan, see my response to Alan before I saw this..
in this case, same "view|" one viewpoints.. well.. you said it

ann

On 10/24/2017 4:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Alan.

I would expect Ann's viewpoint to be quite different from mine.

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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Alan C  wrote:


Yes, It is impressive. Ann posted a different view a while ago.

Alan C

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Subject: Inside the Oculus


The Oculus at the World Trade Center is a magnificent transportation hub
with a high end shopping mall:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/24/oculus1

K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
Comments are invited.

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Re: Inside the Oculus




On 10/24/2017 2:22 PM, Alan C wrote:

Yes, It is impressive. Ann posted a different view a while ago.

Alan C
Actually, mine was from  the same view / vantage point - just zeroed in 
more ... and taken when there

was a brighter sky coming in through the gills..

nice shot, Dan!  I love the place -- of coruse I wasnt there when pieces 
of the frame fell to the floor below recently ;-)


ann


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Subject: Inside the Oculus

The Oculus at the World Trade Center is a magnificent transportation hub
with a high end shopping mall:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/24/oculus1

K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO - Rowhouse Front Garden


It's almost topiary...
nice capture

ann

On 10/23/2017 8:58 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

On my way to work last week:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/PESOs-2017/On-My-Way-To-Work/Way-to-Work-10-6-17/i-RfgLSCf/A

(K-5, FA 50/1.7)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: Peso-Sand Hill Cranes


Nice grab, Jack  ..
good crop if you cropped, amazing framing if you did it all in the 
camera :-)


I love Sandies

ann


On 10/23/2017 4:22 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Appreciated remarks, Dan!
Always generous!

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 23, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Great capture, especially as you managed to get them in the same posture,
under an attractive sky.


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On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:



A couple passing Sand Hill Cranes at Gray Lodge, local State Wildlife Area.
Left Crane slightly further away.
Rare to see in this area.

C? Thanks!

DFA/K3

J

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Re: Shocked that he was sued for stealing photography

2017-10-24 Thread Sandy Harris

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Stanley Halpin
 wrote:

> Getty is in the business of selling images. Of course they should sue for 
> misuse of their property, ...

Perhaps, but Getty have also been sued for misusing other people's images:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/08/getty-images-sued-again-over-alleged-misuse-of-over-47000-photos/
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-getty-copyright-20160729-snap-story.html

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Re: Milwaukee

2017-10-24 Thread Paul Sorenson


Rick -

Sending you a reply off list.  Let me know if you don't receive it.

Paul


On 10/19/2017 9:26 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Paul,

Traveling with my wife, who will be at a conference Thursday afternoon and
all day Saturday. Friday we plan to be tourists together.

Flying in and out of O’Hare, and renting a car. We’re staying at the
downtown Hyatt.

Rick

On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:26 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:

Rick -

Still trying to sort out with other family members whether the Chicago trip
will be Saturday or Sunday.  Should have things nailed down by this coming
weekend.

Some further info about your travels will be helpful in making some
recommendations.

Travelling alone?  Lodging location?  Will you have a vehicle available?

-p


On 10/17/2017 2:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Paul,

Any update on your plans yet?

If you're going to Chicago instead, your inside tips on sights and
restaurants (both beer-oriented and fine dining) would be most
welcome.

Cheers,

Rick

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:

I think I'm the only PDMLer in the MKE area.  We may have to be in Chicago
that day, but plans aren't firm as of yet.  If we're not traveling it would
be great to get together...will keep you updated to see if we can meet up.
Worst case, I can at least recommend some sights to see and visit.

-p



On 10/2/2017 10:12 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

I’ll be playing tourist in Milwaukee on Saturday Oct 28.

I’d love to get together with any PDMLers in the area.

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Re: SIGMA 70-200mm f/2.8 EX APO - thoughts?

2017-10-24 Thread Steve Sharpe

Thanks for the advice, Mark. I did end up buying the lens yesterday 
after testing it - no purple fringes. On the K3 my example is tack 
sharp when taken down two stops, and a little softer at F2.8 when 
viewed at 100%, bit that is to be expected. 

I also took some test shots on my "full-frame" camera (the MZ-S), but 
it will be awhile before I am able to examine them...

So I am pleased for my C$225. If the aberrations turn out to be too 
much when I get a full-frame DSLR...well, I'll cross that bridge when I 
get to it.

Now the seller is trying to convince me to buy a 4X5 camera that he has 
(actually he has four)...

Again, thanks to everyone who helped me in this!

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 16:50:52 -0400, Mark C wrote:
> I have the 1st generation Sigma 70-200 f2.8. IMO its excellent on a 
> cropped sensor. It if very good on a full frame camera but does show 
> slight softness around the edges.
> 
> Here is a link to a full sized sample image taken on the K1, so you 
> can judge for yourself:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/temp/MCCP1875.jpg
> 
> That image is untouched, except for bringing up the shadows in ACR. 
> Not cropped - hence the crooked horizon line. If you look very 
> closely along the outer edges, especially the water on the left, you 
> can see some slight astigmatism. When used on an APS C body, the 
> slight defects are cropped out. You can also see noticeable light 
> fall off in the upper corners of the sample image - again not an 
> issue on APS-C.
> 
> I have not had issue with flare with this lens. The only issues I've 
> had with it are that the minimum focusing distance is not very good - 
> about 6 feet - and at temps below 0F (-18 C) the aperture 
> malfunctions.
> 
> After testing I decided to keep this lens with the K1. If a 70-200 
> was my main workhorse I would probably upgrade though, if only for 
> closer minimum focusing distance.
> 
> Hope this helps -
> 
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Re: Peso-Sand Hill Cranes

Thanks much, Bob!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
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> Looks good Jack!  Regards, Bob S.
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A couple passing Sand Hill Cranes at Gray Lodge, local State Wildlife Area.
>> Left Crane slightly further away.
>> Rare to see in this area.
>> 
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PESO: Oculus arising

Another from the World Trade Center:

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Re: Inside the Oculus

Thanks, Jack.

It is supposed to be a dove, symbolizing peace.

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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

> OK, then those aren't the lungs of
> a very large sea creature? :-(
> Impressive image, Dan.
>
> J
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Thanks, Alan.

I would expect Ann's viewpoint to be quite different from mine.

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> Yes, It is impressive. Ann posted a different view a while ago.
>
> Alan C
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Re: Peso-Sand Hill Cranes

2017-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan

Looks good Jack!  Regards, Bob S.

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>
>
> A couple passing Sand Hill Cranes at Gray Lodge, local State Wildlife Area.
> Left Crane slightly further away.
> Rare to see in this area.
>
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Re: Peso;s late fall

Nicely done, David

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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:32 AM, David J Brooks 
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> After more fumbling around i loaded up some shots from this weekend
> and it still takes me a while to remember how to find the file number
> to share.Arg.
>
>
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431836/
> Old church in Salerm Ontario
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431835/
> Old church in Varroom ontario
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431834/
> Old mill Udora Ontario
>
>
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431833/
> dead tree with live tree Uxbridge Ontario
>
> K5, Sigma 17-70 and Cameron circpol
>
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Re: Peso;s late fall

2017-10-24 Thread Alan C


Nice set. I agree with Larry.

Alan C

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Sent: 24 October, 2017 5:32 PM
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After more fumbling around i loaded up some shots from this weekend
and it still takes me a while to remember how to find the file number
to share.Arg.



https://www.photo.net/photo/18431836/
Old church in Salerm Ontario

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431835/
Old church in Varroom ontario

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431834/
Old mill Udora Ontario


https://www.photo.net/photo/18431833/
dead tree with live tree Uxbridge Ontario

K5, Sigma 17-70 and Cameron circpol

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Re: Inside the Oculus

2017-10-24 Thread Alan C


Yes, It is impressive. Ann posted a different view a while ago.

Alan C

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Re: Peso;s late fall

2017-10-24 Thread Larry Colen




David J Brooks wrote:

After more fumbling around i loaded up some shots from this weekend
and it still takes me a while to remember how to find the file number
to share.Arg.



https://www.photo.net/photo/18431836/
Old church in Salerm Ontario

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431835/
Old church in Varroom ontario

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431834/
Old mill Udora Ontario


https://www.photo.net/photo/18431833/
dead tree with live tree Uxbridge Ontario


The first several are pleasant, but I quite like the last one.




K5, Sigma 17-70 and Cameron circpol

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Re: UPS Stupidy

2017-10-24 Thread Gonz

Hahahahahaha, that is so nuts!!!


On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:41 AM, William Robb
 wrote:
> I ordered some stuff from Lee Valley Tools to support my other hobby.
> Working on the theory that I am never home when UPS wants to deliver, and I
> don’t really want a bunch of expensive tools sitting in a box on my back
> landing, I changed the delivery to pick up at one of their outlets that is
> close to where I work.
> I was home for supper, and the UPS driver came to my back door and knocked.
> As I was opening the door, he scanned the parcel, and told me that it had
> been redirected to the depot and I would be able to pick it up tomorrow.
> And with that, he took my parcel back to his van and drove away.
>
> And people wonder why I despise UPS.
>
> Have fun
>
> Bill
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Re: Inside the Oculus

OK, then those aren't the lungs of
a very large sea creature? :-(
Impressive image, Dan.

J


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> On Oct 24, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> The Oculus at the World Trade Center is a magnificent transportation hub
> with a high end shopping mall:
> 
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/24/oculus1
> 
> K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
> Comments are invited.
> 
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Re: Peso;s late fall

Very nice, Dave!

J

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> On Oct 24, 2017, at 8:32 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> After more fumbling around i loaded up some shots from this weekend
> and it still takes me a while to remember how to find the file number
> to share.Arg.
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431836/
> Old church in Salerm Ontario
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431835/
> Old church in Varroom ontario
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431834/
> Old mill Udora Ontario
> 
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18431833/
> dead tree with live tree Uxbridge Ontario
> 
> K5, Sigma 17-70 and Cameron circpol
> 
> Dave
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> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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TRADE: My (mint) silver FA 77mm f1.8 Limited for your DA* 200mm

2017-10-24 Thread Darren Addy

I realize that I could (with perhaps a bit of patience) sell my Silver
77mm Limited with more than enough to purchase an excellent DA* 200mm
f2.8, but with the ebay/paypal fees and hassles of listing (etc) I
thought I would try a direct approach...

Let me know if you are interested in a trade, straight up. Can supply
pics of my lens, but it is truly like new with the original metal cap
and Pentax drawstring pouch. Will trade for a similar condition DA*
200mm f2.8 with hood & caps.

Respectfully,
Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

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Peso;s late fall

2017-10-24 Thread David J Brooks

After more fumbling around i loaded up some shots from this weekend
and it still takes me a while to remember how to find the file number
to share.Arg.



https://www.photo.net/photo/18431836/
Old church in Salerm Ontario

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431835/
Old church in Varroom ontario

https://www.photo.net/photo/18431834/
Old mill Udora Ontario


https://www.photo.net/photo/18431833/
dead tree with live tree Uxbridge Ontario

K5, Sigma 17-70 and Cameron circpol

Dave
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www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
York Region, Ontario, Canada

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Inside the Oculus

The Oculus at the World Trade Center is a magnificent transportation hub
with a high end shopping mall:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2017/10/24/oculus1

K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom
Comments are invited.

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Re: Shocked that he was sued for stealing photography

A client forwarded a trip report and an image to her travel website.  She
should have suspected it was not the client's photo, but she unthinkingly
posted it, and then took it down almost immediately when notified by
Getty.  She knew, and I knew, she had no legal defense, and tried to
negotiated with Getty, but they demanded the full license fee for that
image, which she paid.  She did not do it purposely, but carelessly, but
Getty treated it no differently from an intentional misuse.

I have heard from others that Getty is perhaps a bit over zealous in
collecting fees and penalties, and some suspect it is not part of the
company's business plan.

Years ago, I posted images on a stock site, which was acquired by Getty,  I
received some small fees from the original site, but nothing after Getty
took it over.  That really doesn't surprise me, as the images were not that
fantastic or useful to others.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Stanley Halpin <
s...@stans-photography.info> wrote:

>
> > On Oct 23, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> >
> > Getty is among those who profit from innocent use of their copyrighted
> > images.
> >
> > A client of mine posted on her site an image forwarded to her by a
> > customer, them was sued by Getty for having the image on her site for
> less
> > than two days.
> >
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
>
> So, your client used an image on her site whose provenance she did not
> know or question?  I wouldn’t consider that “innocent use”, I would
> consider it carelessness or stupidity.
>
> Getty is in the business of selling images. Of course they should sue for
> misuse of their property, usage of their images without permission. They
> are foolish if they do not protect the source of their income. They should
> be able to profit from ANY use of their images, whether “innocent” or not.
> Saying that they “profit from innocent use” paints a rather dark, and in my
> opinion, a rather biased view of Getty.
>
> stan
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Re: Shocked that he was sued for stealing photography

2017-10-24 Thread Stanley Halpin

> On Oct 23, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Getty is among those who profit from innocent use of their copyrighted
> images.
> 
> A client of mine posted on her site an image forwarded to her by a
> customer, them was sued by Getty for having the image on her site for less
> than two days.
> 
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 

So, your client used an image on her site whose provenance she did not know or 
question?  I wouldn’t consider that “innocent use”, I would consider it 
carelessness or stupidity.

Getty is in the business of selling images. Of course they should sue for 
misuse of their property, usage of their images without permission. They are 
foolish if they do not protect the source of their income. They should be able 
to profit from ANY use of their images, whether “innocent” or not. Saying that 
they “profit from innocent use” paints a rather dark, and in my opinion, a 
rather biased view of Getty.

stan

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Re: Adobe doesn't seem to want my money

2017-10-24 Thread Henk Terhell

David, I followed your route and got LR 6 now. Familiar interface and no
need for a subscription in the coming years.
And with Pentax DNG there surely won't be a problem for any Pentax K-1
mark x.

Henk

Op 2017-10-21 om 14:27 schreef David J Brooks:

Henk, I made the leap from 4 to 6 stand alone back in November last
year, so far so good

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 4:49 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

My current workflow is with LR 4 RAW DNG and making sometimes final
adjustments not possible in LR 4 (e.g. perspective correction) in Elements 9
(free copy received with my Epson scanner).
I bought LR 4 more than 5 years ago and therefore costs sofar are only some
$ 30/year.
New K-1 lenses are not recognized and can't be corrected of course in LR 4 .
As I don't like the CC subscription model I wonder whether it is a good idea
to buy LR 6 now it is still available. Perhaps this would serve me an equal
long time.
I don't need more cloud storage having already 1 TB with Office 365 and
unlimited JPEG storage with Flickr Pro, plus a set of external hard disks
for my RAW files.
Any comments whether I should give my money again to Adobe to a soon
outdated version of LR?

Henk

Op 2017-10-19 om 08:49 schreef Larry Colen:

https://fstoppers.com/apps/adobe-announces-lightroom-classic-cc-lightroom-cc-photoshop-cc-updates-and-more-200026

First, Lightroom 6 will be the final standalone version of Lightroom.
There will be a Lightroom 6.3 update that will provide Nikon D850 support
(which is here now for Lightroom Classic CC, Lightroom CC, and Photoshop
CC), but that's all that we can expect. There will be no further updates
after this year to Lightroom 6. While Lightroom 6 will still be available
for an unspecified amount of time, going forward, there will simply be two
new subscription-only desktop versions: Lightroom Classic CC and Lightroom
CC.

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