Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors

2018-08-30 Thread Sandy Harris
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 5:32 PM J.C. O'Connell  wrote:

> are you talking about the smc pentax A 35-105 F3.5?

Yes.

> that lens is outstanding but its big and
> heavy and built like a tank but has no AF.

Yes. As I said:

> > ... Heavier & a bit more expensive, but faster, a wider zoom
> > range, & really solid construction. I have a few other lenses but find
> > I use almost exclusively the 21mm & the 35-105.

It is heavy, but I'd say worth it. With it & the 21 Limited I almost
never need anything else. YMMV.

Here's the Pentax Forums review:
https://www.pentaxforums.com/lensreviews/SMC-Pentax-A-35-105mm-F3.5-Zoom-Lens.html

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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors

2018-08-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell
are you talking about the smc pentax A 35-105 F3.5? that lens is  
outstanding but its big and
heavy and built like a tank but has no AF. otherwise the smc F 35-105 is a  
f4-F5.6 lens that

is slower than the smc-F 35-70 F3.5-4.5.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:56:27 -0400, Sandy Harris   
wrote:



I have the 35-70 & like it, but later got the 35-105 F3.5 which is
even better. Heavier & a bit more expensive, but faster, a wider zoom
range, & really solid construction. I have a few other lenses but find
I use almost exclusively the 21mm & the 35-105.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:43 PM J.C. O'Connell   
wrote:


well, mine is in nice shape. Keh had one for less in ugly condition but  
I

didnt want that.
yes, it seems the build quality went down in general with each new lens
series but there were
exceptions along the way of course.
jco


On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:08:40 -0400, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

> I've been using one for years, it's pretty good for a compact standard
> zoom.  My only issue with it is it seems downright cheap, (build  
quality

> that is), compared to it's stablemate the F 70-210 f4.0~5.6.  IIRC I
> paid $35 US for my copy, but I've seen the at KEH for 10 dollars less,
> probably in better condition than the one I have.
>
>
> On 8/30/2018 2:10 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>> Reading the lens reviews in Pentax forums, I came across an  
interesting

>> lens I just had to buy as
>> the cost is absurdly low (under $45 shipped ). It also has the
>> distinction of being the smallest
>> zoom lens Pentax ever made ( it's barely larger than a F50mm F1.4 ).
>> And it has a built in macro mode
>> which gives a usable 1:4 magnification @ 70mm. It has an aperture  
ring

>> with the "A" setting for autoexposure on DSLRs and AF too.
>>
>> What lens am I referring to? The smc Pentax-F 35-70mm F3.5-F4.5 I  
call

>> it a "People" lens
>> on a crop sensor as the equiv. focal range is 53-105mm, perfect for
>> full body shots or small groups
>> to individuals and head shot portraits. Ideal for an all in one  
family

>> portrait lens.
>>
>> While I havent done extensive critical testing yet, initial snapshots
>> show outstanding sharpness and contrast throughout the range, very
>> minor and easily correctable CA, and no PF to speak of, at least
>> stopped down a little. AF is snappy and accurate, even indoors on my
>> K-5IIs. No distortion even at 35mm.
>>
>> As an example of the typical sharpness, Ive posted a macro pic:
>>
>> https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70macro,jpg
>>
>


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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors

2018-08-30 Thread Sandy Harris
I have the 35-70 & like it, but later got the 35-105 F3.5 which is
even better. Heavier & a bit more expensive, but faster, a wider zoom
range, & really solid construction. I have a few other lenses but find
I use almost exclusively the 21mm & the 35-105.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:43 PM J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
>
> well, mine is in nice shape. Keh had one for less in ugly condition but I
> didnt want that.
> yes, it seems the build quality went down in general with each new lens
> series but there were
> exceptions along the way of course.
> jco
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:08:40 -0400, P. J. Alling
>  wrote:
>
> > I've been using one for years, it's pretty good for a compact standard
> > zoom.  My only issue with it is it seems downright cheap, (build quality
> > that is), compared to it's stablemate the F 70-210 f4.0~5.6.  IIRC I
> > paid $35 US for my copy, but I've seen the at KEH for 10 dollars less,
> > probably in better condition than the one I have.
> >
> >
> > On 8/30/2018 2:10 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> >> Reading the lens reviews in Pentax forums, I came across an interesting
> >> lens I just had to buy as
> >> the cost is absurdly low (under $45 shipped ). It also has the
> >> distinction of being the smallest
> >> zoom lens Pentax ever made ( it's barely larger than a F50mm F1.4 ).
> >> And it has a built in macro mode
> >> which gives a usable 1:4 magnification @ 70mm. It has an aperture ring
> >> with the "A" setting for autoexposure on DSLRs and AF too.
> >>
> >> What lens am I referring to? The smc Pentax-F 35-70mm F3.5-F4.5 I call
> >> it a "People" lens
> >> on a crop sensor as the equiv. focal range is 53-105mm, perfect for
> >> full body shots or small groups
> >> to individuals and head shot portraits. Ideal for an all in one family
> >> portrait lens.
> >>
> >> While I havent done extensive critical testing yet, initial snapshots
> >> show outstanding sharpness and contrast throughout the range, very
> >> minor and easily correctable CA, and no PF to speak of, at least
> >> stopped down a little. AF is snappy and accurate, even indoors on my
> >> K-5IIs. No distortion even at 35mm.
> >>
> >> As an example of the typical sharpness, Ive posted a macro pic:
> >>
> >> https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70macro,jpg
> >>
> >
>
>
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RE: when $30 for a smc pentax a 50mm F1.2 is $30 too much

2018-08-30 Thread John Coyle
How does anyone get to abuse a lens to that extent!

John (in Rome for now)


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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors

2018-08-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell
well, mine is in nice shape. Keh had one for less in ugly condition but I  
didnt want that.
yes, it seems the build quality went down in general with each new lens  
series but there were

exceptions along the way of course.
jco


On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:08:40 -0400, P. J. Alling  
 wrote:


I've been using one for years, it's pretty good for a compact standard  
zoom.  My only issue with it is it seems downright cheap, (build quality  
that is), compared to it's stablemate the F 70-210 f4.0~5.6.  IIRC I  
paid $35 US for my copy, but I've seen the at KEH for 10 dollars less,  
probably in better condition than the one I have.



On 8/30/2018 2:10 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
Reading the lens reviews in Pentax forums, I came across an interesting  
lens I just had to buy as
the cost is absurdly low (under $45 shipped ). It also has the  
distinction of being the smallest
zoom lens Pentax ever made ( it's barely larger than a F50mm F1.4 ).  
And it has a built in macro mode
which gives a usable 1:4 magnification @ 70mm. It has an aperture ring  
with the "A" setting for autoexposure on DSLRs and AF too.


What lens am I referring to? The smc Pentax-F 35-70mm F3.5-F4.5 I call  
it a "People" lens
on a crop sensor as the equiv. focal range is 53-105mm, perfect for  
full body shots or small groups
to individuals and head shot portraits. Ideal for an all in one family  
portrait lens.


While I havent done extensive critical testing yet, initial snapshots  
show outstanding sharpness and contrast throughout the range, very  
minor and easily correctable CA, and no PF to speak of, at least  
stopped down a little. AF is snappy and accurate, even indoors on my  
K-5IIs. No distortion even at 35mm.


As an example of the typical sharpness, Ive posted a macro pic:

https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70macro,jpg






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Re: GESO: Signs of Spring

2018-08-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Quite interesting.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 5:55 AM Alan C  wrote:

> The Knoppiesdoorn (Knobthorn) trees are the first of the thorny Acacias
> to bloom each year in the Lowveld. Although the English name exists, it
> is virtually never used. Scroll R for the other 3 images at closer
> distances. The last indicates how the trees get their name. Some years
> ago a parachutist landed in one just up the road. It took ages to get
> him out & the 'chute canopy was in tatters.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/44360706971/
>
> All with the K5. First 3 with the HD 5-300, the 4th with the F 35-105 Macro
>
> Alan C
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Re: GESO: Signs of Spring

2018-08-30 Thread Paul Sorenson

Ouch!!


On 8/30/2018 4:54 AM, Alan C wrote:
The Knoppiesdoorn (Knobthorn) trees are the first of the thorny 
Acacias to bloom each year in the Lowveld. Although the English name 
exists, it is virtually never used. Scroll R for the other 3 images at 
closer distances. The last indicates how the trees get their name. 
Some years ago a parachutist landed in one just up the road. It took 
ages to get him out & the 'chute canopy was in tatters.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/44360706971/

All with the K5. First 3 with the HD 5-300, the 4th with the F 35-105 
Macro


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Re: PESO: black drongo juvenile

2018-08-30 Thread Subash Jeyan
On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 09:56:41 -0700
Jack Davis  wrote:

> Another excellent image, Subash!

thank you Jack. and every one else who had a look. :)



> > On Aug 29, 2018, at 7:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I like the aggressive stare.
> > Black animals are difficult to photograph.
> > 
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> > 
> >   
> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:14 AM Subash Jeyan
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> a photo from an early morning birding session yesterday. someone
> >> who clearly thought that i was trespassing:
> >> 
> >> http://something-feathered.in/2018/08/29/black-drongo-juvenile/
> >> 
> >> comments appreciated. i hope i am not flooding the list with bird
> >> photos.
> >> 

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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors

2018-08-30 Thread P. J. Alling
I've been using one for years, it's pretty good for a compact standard 
zoom.  My only issue with it is it seems downright cheap, (build quality 
that is), compared to it's stablemate the F 70-210 f4.0~5.6.  IIRC I 
paid $35 US for my copy, but I've seen the at KEH for 10 dollars less, 
probably in better condition than the one I have.



On 8/30/2018 2:10 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
Reading the lens reviews in Pentax forums, I came across an 
interesting lens I just had to buy as
the cost is absurdly low (under $45 shipped ). It also has the 
distinction of being the smallest
zoom lens Pentax ever made ( it's barely larger than a F50mm F1.4 ). 
And it has a built in macro mode
which gives a usable 1:4 magnification @ 70mm. It has an aperture ring 
with the "A" setting for autoexposure on DSLRs and AF too.


What lens am I referring to? The smc Pentax-F 35-70mm F3.5-F4.5 I call 
it a "People" lens
on a crop sensor as the equiv. focal range is 53-105mm, perfect for 
full body shots or small groups
to individuals and head shot portraits. Ideal for an all in one family 
portrait lens.


While I havent done extensive critical testing yet, initial snapshots 
show outstanding sharpness and contrast throughout the range, very 
minor and easily correctable CA, and no PF to speak of, at least 
stopped down a little. AF is snappy and accurate, even indoors on my 
K-5IIs. No distortion even at 35mm.


As an example of the typical sharpness, Ive posted a macro pic:

https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70macro,jpg



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Re: GESO: Signs of Spring

2018-08-30 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, that was my guess, Alan. :-)

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2018, at 4:24 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, typo - HD 55-300.
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 30-Aug-18 12:35 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>> nice shots, which 300mm lens?
>> jco
>> 
>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:54:36 -0400, Alan C  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Knoppiesdoorn (Knobthorn) trees are the first of the thorny Acacias to 
>>> bloom each year in the Lowveld. Although the English name exists, it is 
>>> virtually never used. Scroll R for the other 3 images at closer distances. 
>>> The last indicates how the trees get their name. Some years ago a 
>>> parachutist landed in one just up the road. It took ages to get him out & 
>>> the 'chute canopy was in tatters.
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/44360706971/
>>> 
>>> All with the K5. First 3 with the HD 5-300, the 4th with the F 35-105 Macro
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
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Re: GESO: Signs of Spring

2018-08-30 Thread Alan C

Sorry, typo - HD 55-300.

Alan C

On 30-Aug-18 12:35 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

nice shots, which 300mm lens?
jco

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:54:36 -0400, Alan C  wrote:

The Knoppiesdoorn (Knobthorn) trees are the first of the thorny 
Acacias to bloom each year in the Lowveld. Although the English name 
exists, it is virtually never used. Scroll R for the other 3 images 
at closer distances. The last indicates how the trees get their name. 
Some years ago a parachutist landed in one just up the road. It took 
ages to get him out & the 'chute canopy was in tatters.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/44360706971/

All with the K5. First 3 with the HD 5-300, the 4th with the F 35-105 
Macro


Alan C

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Re: GESO: Signs of Spring

2018-08-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell

nice shots, which 300mm lens?
jco

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:54:36 -0400, Alan C  wrote:

The Knoppiesdoorn (Knobthorn) trees are the first of the thorny Acacias  
to bloom each year in the Lowveld. Although the English name exists, it  
is virtually never used. Scroll R for the other 3 images at closer  
distances. The last indicates how the trees get their name. Some years  
ago a parachutist landed in one just up the road. It took ages to get  
him out & the 'chute canopy was in tatters.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/44360706971/

All with the K5. First 3 with the HD 5-300, the 4th with the F 35-105  
Macro


Alan C

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Re: GESO: Signs of Spring

2018-08-30 Thread Jack Davis
Excellent detail and interesting
history, Alan.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:54 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> The Knoppiesdoorn (Knobthorn) trees are the first of the thorny Acacias to 
> bloom each year in the Lowveld. Although the English name exists, it is 
> virtually never used. Scroll R for the other 3 images at closer distances. 
> The last indicates how the trees get their name. Some years ago a parachutist 
> landed in one just up the road. It took ages to get him out & the 'chute 
> canopy was in tatters.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/44360706971/
> 
> All with the K5. First 3 with the HD 5-300, the 4th with the F 35-105 Macro
> 
> Alan C
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GESO: Signs of Spring

2018-08-30 Thread Alan C
The Knoppiesdoorn (Knobthorn) trees are the first of the thorny Acacias 
to bloom each year in the Lowveld. Although the English name exists, it 
is virtually never used. Scroll R for the other 3 images at closer 
distances. The last indicates how the trees get their name. Some years 
ago a parachutist landed in one just up the road. It took ages to get 
him out & the 'chute canopy was in tatters.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/44360706971/

All with the K5. First 3 with the HD 5-300, the 4th with the F 35-105 Macro

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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors-sample portrait

2018-08-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell
OK, the 35-105 is a great performer too, but what makes this 35-70 so much  
fun is

how tiny it is and the tiny price they sell for, great value.
jco



On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:42:01 -0400, Alan C  wrote:


Yes, it is impressive.

I have the F 35-105 which is pretty good as a walk-around lens too. An  
example:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/44312596672/

These are three of our latest bunch of Development runners.

Alan C



On 30-Aug-18 09:35 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

heres a link to a decent portrait/snapshot
from the pentax forum lens review section:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/11767760666_7a968e5192_b.jpg







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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors-sample portrait

2018-08-30 Thread Alan C

Yes, it is impressive.

I have the F 35-105 which is pretty good as a walk-around lens too. An 
example:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/44312596672/

These are three of our latest bunch of Development runners.

Alan C



On 30-Aug-18 09:35 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

heres a link to a decent portrait/snapshot
from the pentax forum lens review section:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/11767760666_7a968e5192_b.jpg







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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors-pic of lens itself

2018-08-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell

heres a pic of the lens itself, its so damn small its like a normal prime:

https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70lens.jpg

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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors-sample portrait

2018-08-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell

heres a link to a decent portrait/snapshot
from the pentax forum lens review section:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/11767760666_7a968e5192_b.jpg




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September PUG - Last Call

2018-08-30 Thread Brian Walters
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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors

2018-08-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 02:14:02 -0400,  wrote:


There was a typo. Dot not comma

thanks for the heads up, jco


https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70macro.jpg



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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors, fixed link

2018-08-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 02:10:42 -0400, J.C. O'Connell   
wrote:


Reading the lens reviews in Pentax forums, I came across an interesting  
lens I just had to buy as
the cost is absurdly low (under $45 shipped ). It also has the  
distinction of being the smallest
zoom lens Pentax ever made ( it's barely larger than a F50mm F1.4 ). And  
it has a built in macro mode
which gives a usable 1:4 magnification @ 70mm. It has an aperture ring  
with the "A" setting for autoexposure on DSLRs and AF too.


What lens am I referring to? The smc Pentax-F 35-70mm F3.5-F4.5 I call  
it a "People" lens
on a crop sensor as the equiv. focal range is 53-105mm, perfect for full  
body shots or small groups
to individuals and head shot portraits. Ideal for an all in one family  
portrait lens.


While I havent done extensive critical testing yet, initial snapshots  
show outstanding sharpness and contrast throughout the range, very minor  
and easily correctable CA, and no PF to speak of, at least stopped down  
a little. AF is snappy and accurate, even indoors on my K-5IIs. No  
distortion even at 35mm.


As an example of the typical sharpness, Ive posted a macro pic:


https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70macro.jpg


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Re: Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors

2018-08-30 Thread lrc
There was a typo. Dot not comma
https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70macro.jpg

On August 29, 2018 11:10:42 PM PDT, "J.C. O'Connell"  wrote:
>Reading the lens reviews in Pentax forums, I came across an interesting
> 
>lens I just had to buy as
>the cost is absurdly low (under $45 shipped ). It also has the
>distinction  
>of being the smallest
>zoom lens Pentax ever made ( it's barely larger than a F50mm F1.4 ).
>And  
>it has a built in macro mode
>which gives a usable 1:4 magnification @ 70mm. It has an aperture ring 
>
>with the "A" setting for autoexposure on DSLRs and AF too.
>
>What lens am I referring to? The smc Pentax-F 35-70mm F3.5-F4.5 I call
>it  
>a "People" lens
>on a crop sensor as the equiv. focal range is 53-105mm, perfect for
>full  
>body shots or small groups
>to individuals and head shot portraits. Ideal for an all in one family 
>
>portrait lens.
>
>While I havent done extensive critical testing yet, initial snapshots
>show  
>outstanding sharpness and contrast throughout the range, very minor and
> 
>easily correctable CA, and no PF to speak of, at least stopped down a  
>little. AF is snappy and accurate, even indoors on my K-5IIs. No  
>distortion even at 35mm.
>
>As an example of the typical sharpness, Ive posted a macro pic:
>
>https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70macro,jpg
>
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Bargain Pentax "People" zoom for crop sensors

2018-08-30 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Reading the lens reviews in Pentax forums, I came across an interesting  
lens I just had to buy as
the cost is absurdly low (under $45 shipped ). It also has the distinction  
of being the smallest
zoom lens Pentax ever made ( it's barely larger than a F50mm F1.4 ). And  
it has a built in macro mode
which gives a usable 1:4 magnification @ 70mm. It has an aperture ring  
with the "A" setting for autoexposure on DSLRs and AF too.


What lens am I referring to? The smc Pentax-F 35-70mm F3.5-F4.5 I call it  
a "People" lens
on a crop sensor as the equiv. focal range is 53-105mm, perfect for full  
body shots or small groups
to individuals and head shot portraits. Ideal for an all in one family  
portrait lens.


While I havent done extensive critical testing yet, initial snapshots show  
outstanding sharpness and contrast throughout the range, very minor and  
easily correctable CA, and no PF to speak of, at least stopped down a  
little. AF is snappy and accurate, even indoors on my K-5IIs. No  
distortion even at 35mm.


As an example of the typical sharpness, Ive posted a macro pic:

https://www.jchriso.com/temp/35-70macro,jpg

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