Re: Haven't done a PESO in a while

2018-11-20 Thread lrc
That is very nice.  A wonderful variation on your slow shutter waterfall 
pictures

On November 20, 2018 7:56:14 PM PST, Mark Roberts  
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>Lisa and I went to the White Mountains in New Hampshire last weekend.
>Did a bit of hiking on Mt. Washington. This is one of the shots I got.
>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e204563.jpg
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Haven't done a PESO in a while

2018-11-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Lisa and I went to the White Mountains in New Hampshire last weekend.
Did a bit of hiking on Mt. Washington. This is one of the shots I got.
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e204563.jpg

 
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OT: Panoramic photography awards

2018-11-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-6405507/The-stunning-winners-panoramic-photography-awards-revealed.html

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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread Bob W-PDML
It goes beyond that, although you're correct. As Cotty said, we live in a 
representative democracy. We vote for these people to represent our views, so 
for them to call a referendum is an abdication of responsibility - it's their 
job to make decisions, and to make them in the best interests of _all_ their 
constituents, not just the ones who voted for them. This is why it is never a 
wasted vote, even if your preferred candidate doesn't stand a chance of winning 
- your voice should be heard.

> On 20 Nov 2018, at 15:13, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Referenda are also too simplistic.  If put up for votes, the people
> would cut taxes in half and double government spending.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:06 AM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 20.11.18 um 11:06 schrieb Steve Cottrell:
>>> 
>>> We should never have had the referendum in the first place. Absurd in a
>> parliamentary democracy.
>> 
>> This whole mess goes a long way in explaining why right-wing populists
>> all across Europe are calling for referendums as a general means of
>> "giving people a vote".
>> 
>> From Brexit to minaret bans and the abolition of the radio license fee
>> as a means of reigning in the "lying" public media "infested by
>> left-wing ideas", no good comes from them.
>> 
>> Ralf
>> 
>> the directions.
>> 

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Peso re-do

2018-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
I'm trusting I selected the correct image this time.

Same Swainson's Hawk, but a handier size.


C&C?


Thanks!


My second and last try!


Same hardware.


Thanks for your tolerance!


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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread mike wilson
> On 20 November 2018 at 10:06 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 19/11/18, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >if there's another referendum
> 
> Not a chance.
> 
> If there were, I think we would see civil disorder on or above the scale of 
> the poll tax riots.
> 
> We should never have had the referendum in the first place. Absurd in a 
> parliamentary democracy.

Interesting to note that the clown who was its architect went to some of the 
most renowned (and expensive) educational establishments in the world.

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Re: Peso

2018-11-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yep. It was close to full screen. I like that.


> On Nov 20, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Paul. Didn't intend for it to be so large,but selected one of the three
> I was working and grabbed the wrong one.
> So, your screen handled it comfortably??
> 
> Thanks for commenting, Paul!
> 
> J
>> On November 20, 2018 at 11:30 AM Paul Stenquist  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Excellent. Good to see it full size here. Plenty of detail to admire.
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shot yesterday at Gray Lodge State Wildlife Area.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Appears to me to be a Swainson's Hawk per my field guide.
>>> 
>>> Wildfire smoke drifting in our area now much lighter and less harmful. 
>>> HOPEFULLY!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> DFA 150-450/K3II
>>> 
>>> 
>>> C&C?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread mike wilson
After the politicians, the corporate grandees


> On 20 November 2018 at 08:32 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm fully prepared to compromise just as soon as we've finished hanging the 
> ring-leaders.
> 
> > On 20 Nov 2018, at 00:24, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> > 
> > Tell us what you really think Bob;  don't hold back.  
> > 
> > I read the BBC online, the Economist on paper and online, and other British
> > media online.  It is the very passion and venom that I was finding there
> > that led me to this post.  I can understand, and to some extent appreciate,
> > the points of view of both sides.  I am troubled most by the fact that it
> > seems compromise has become as loathsome a concept to many in Britain as it
> > is to much of the US.
> > 
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> > 
> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 6:03 PM Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Well, if you can bear it take a look at the Brexit-related comments on
> >> some of the BBC forums - I'm sure weather forums are not like that. The
> >> whole thing is a collective descent into madness. There is no reasoned
> >> discussion, and the reason the Leave won and Remain lost is that Leave
> >> played on the emotional aspects of it all, while Leave tried to play to
> >> reason. But it is not an issue where reason really matters for most people
> >> - I for one am pro-Europe by emotion at least as much as I am by reason.
> >> What it means is that the arguments are simply playground mud-slinging and
> >> very tiresome once you're past the initial entertainment of it all.
> >> 
> >> The problem is, if there's another referendum and Remain wins, the Leave
> >> camp will never shut up, they will beaver away obsessively just as they did
> >> after the 1974 referendum, with their lies and prejudices and bigotry. If
> >> Leave win I suspect Remain will accept that the war is over and the bad
> >> guys won. I did march in favour of another referendum a couple of weeks
> >> ago, with 700,000 others - I don't think we'll get one, but I think it's
> >> important to make our voice heard because there is a real slide towards
> >> tyranny of the majority, and the notion of winner takes all, even though
> >> the Leave majority was less than 4%. It's a very worrying slide.
> >> 
> >> The other thing is that if we do indeed leave it will be the leave voters
> >> who suffer from the economic consequences, not the leaders of the Leave
> >> movement, who are feathering their own nests and intend to strip the
> >> workers of their rights as soon as they get the chance, or the middle-class
> >> oldies like me. They are robber barons of the worst sort, lying, conniving
> >> little shits who've used people to further their own interests. I'm a
> >> mild-mannered sort of chap, but I'd to see the whole fucking lot of them
> >> hanging from lampposts in Parliament Square. In the name of tolerance and
> >> democracy.

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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Too true, and their imaging division is one of the more profitable 
portions of the company...



On 11/20/2018 1:58 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

https://www.channele2e.com/news/ricoh-layoffs-2018-management-staff-cuts-business-unit-sale/

And from Reuters:

"Ricoh and legacy companies that supply office printing equipment such as Xerox 
Corp have been looking to sell assets and focus on other areas of growth as paper 
printing increasingly gives way to digital alternatives.

Earlier this year, Japan’s Fujifilm Holdings said it would buy Xerox in a $6.1 
billion deal to gain scale and cut costs. That proposal has, however, hit road 
blocks as two of Xerox’s top shareholders — Carl Icahn and Darwin Deason — 
opposed the deal.

Ricoh, meanwhile, has already cut over 5,000 jobs in North America since 
beginning of this year, the Nikkei said.

The 59-year old company has reported declining profits for the past four years. 
Its stock has shed nearly two-thirds of its market value since its peak in 
2007.”

Rick





On Nov 15, 2018, at 4:42 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:

IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho said 
that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.

It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment 
companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper documents.

Rick

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 08:39 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
On a point of grammar, the collective noun for cormorants is not 'flock' - we 
say 'a mess of cormorants', and 'a shag-bag'.




On 15 Nov 2018, at 02:24, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different from 
Carolina Shag). I also knew the slang meaning used chiefly by Brits.
But I just have learnt what species of birds this word applies to (especially 
for people from NZ). That way it became so relevant to PDML!

But how can you make a quick profit on cormorants (especially using the 
camera)?! That is impossible!
However, the PDML flock can be so flippant! ;)



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Re: Peso

2018-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks Paul. Didn't intend for it to be so large,but selected one of the three
I was working and grabbed the wrong one.
So, your screen handled it comfortably??

Thanks for commenting, Paul!

J
> On November 20, 2018 at 11:30 AM Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Excellent. Good to see it full size here. Plenty of detail to admire.
> Paul
> 
> > On Nov 20, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Shot yesterday at Gray Lodge State Wildlife Area.
> > 
> > 
> > Appears to me to be a Swainson's Hawk per my field guide.
> > 
> > Wildfire smoke drifting in our area now much lighter and less harmful. 
> > HOPEFULLY!
> > 
> > 
> > DFA 150-450/K3II
> > 
> > 
> > C&C?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > J
> > 
> > 
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Re: Peso

2018-11-20 Thread Jack Davis
Appreciated, Paul. Thanks!

J
> On November 20, 2018 at 11:30 AM Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Excellent. Good to see it full size here. Plenty of detail to admire.
> Paul
> 
> > On Nov 20, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Shot yesterday at Gray Lodge State Wildlife Area.
> > 
> > 
> > Appears to me to be a Swainson's Hawk per my field guide.
> > 
> > Wildfire smoke drifting in our area now much lighter and less harmful. 
> > HOPEFULLY!
> > 
> > 
> > DFA 150-450/K3II
> > 
> > 
> > C&C?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > J
> > 
> > 
> > https://www.photo.net/photo/18507811
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Re: Peso

2018-11-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent. Good to see it full size here. Plenty of detail to admire.
Paul

> On Nov 20, 2018, at 1:13 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> Shot yesterday at Gray Lodge State Wildlife Area.
> 
> 
> Appears to me to be a Swainson's Hawk per my field guide.
> 
> Wildfire smoke drifting in our area now much lighter and less harmful. 
> HOPEFULLY!
> 
> 
> DFA 150-450/K3II
> 
> 
> C&C?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> J
> 
> 
> https://www.photo.net/photo/18507811
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Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship" APS-C-camera line?

2018-11-20 Thread Rick Womer
https://www.channele2e.com/news/ricoh-layoffs-2018-management-staff-cuts-business-unit-sale/

And from Reuters:

"Ricoh and legacy companies that supply office printing equipment such as Xerox 
Corp have been looking to sell assets and focus on other areas of growth as 
paper printing increasingly gives way to digital alternatives.

Earlier this year, Japan’s Fujifilm Holdings said it would buy Xerox in a $6.1 
billion deal to gain scale and cut costs. That proposal has, however, hit road 
blocks as two of Xerox’s top shareholders — Carl Icahn and Darwin Deason — 
opposed the deal.

Ricoh, meanwhile, has already cut over 5,000 jobs in North America since 
beginning of this year, the Nikkei said.

The 59-year old company has reported declining profits for the past four years. 
Its stock has shed nearly two-thirds of its market value since its peak in 
2007.”

Rick




> On Nov 15, 2018, at 4:42 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho 
> said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority. 
> 
> It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment 
> companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper documents. 
> 
> Rick
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 08:39 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> On a point of grammar, the collective noun for cormorants is not 'flock' - we 
> say 'a mess of cormorants', and 'a shag-bag'.
> 
> 
> 
> > On 15 Nov 2018, at 02:24, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different from 
> > Carolina Shag). I also knew the slang meaning used chiefly by Brits.
> > But I just have learnt what species of birds this word applies to 
> > (especially for people from NZ). That way it became so relevant to PDML!
> > 
> > But how can you make a quick profit on cormorants (especially using the 
> > camera)?! That is impossible!
> > However, the PDML flock can be so flippant! ;)
> > 
> > 
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Re: Taking better pictures

2018-11-20 Thread John

Or "Take The A Train", get off at Columbus Circle and walk south along Broadway.

On 11/20/2018 13:15, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

You mean that if I walk up Seventh Avenue to 57th Street, I will be able to
take better pictures?

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:55 AM Dale H. Cook 
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Another approach to taking better pictures is to use the age-old
directions (around since at least the mid '50s) on how to get to Carnegie
Hall.

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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread P. J. Alling

So I guess that explains California.


On 11/20/2018 10:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Referenda are also too simplistic.  If put up for votes, the people
would cut taxes in half and double government spending.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:06 AM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:


Am 20.11.18 um 11:06 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


We should never have had the referendum in the first place. Absurd in a

parliamentary democracy.

This whole mess goes a long way in explaining why right-wing populists
all across Europe are calling for referendums as a general means of
"giving people a vote".

  From Brexit to minaret bans and the abolition of the radio license fee
as a means of reigning in the "lying" public media "infested by
left-wing ideas", no good comes from them.

Ralf

the directions.



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Re: Taking better pictures

2018-11-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't want to detract from the man's skill or his bravery, but getting 
closer did get him killed.  Following his advice does have it's risks.



On 11/19/2018 11:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Robert Capa:  “If your photographs aren't good enough, you're not close
enough. ”

Of course, Robert Capa was a better photographer than Andre Friedmann.  

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:18 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:


har!
ann

On 11/19/2018 4:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Everyone with a new macro lens.


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:26 PM Daniel J. Matyola 

wrote:

Who said "If your photos aren't good enough, you are not close enough"?

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 3:03 PM Ken Waller 

wrote:

"Want to take better pictures?"
"Aim at better stuff".


I found these profound words of wisdom in a National Geographic
'Expedition
Photography' brochure hyping their 2019-2020 Photo Expeditions.

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Re: Taking better pictures

2018-11-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You mean that if I walk up Seventh Avenue to 57th Street, I will be able to
take better pictures?

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:55 AM Dale H. Cook 
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> Another approach to taking better pictures is to use the age-old
> directions (around since at least the mid '50s) on how to get to Carnegie
> Hall.
>
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> around lens or SMC Pentax-A 50mm/f2 lens
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Peso

2018-11-20 Thread Jack Davis


Shot yesterday at Gray Lodge State Wildlife Area.


Appears to me to be a Swainson's Hawk per my field guide.

Wildfire smoke drifting in our area now much lighter and less harmful. 
HOPEFULLY!


DFA 150-450/K3II


C&C?


Thanks


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Re: Taking better pictures

2018-11-20 Thread Dale H. Cook
Another approach to taking better pictures is to use the age-old directions 
(around since at least the mid '50s) on how to get to Carnegie Hall.

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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Referenda are also too simplistic.  If put up for votes, the people
would cut taxes in half and double government spending.

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On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 6:06 AM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

> Am 20.11.18 um 11:06 schrieb Steve Cottrell:
>
> > We should never have had the referendum in the first place. Absurd in a
> parliamentary democracy.
>
> This whole mess goes a long way in explaining why right-wing populists
> all across Europe are calling for referendums as a general means of
> "giving people a vote".
>
>  From Brexit to minaret bans and the abolition of the radio license fee
> as a means of reigning in the "lying" public media "infested by
> left-wing ideas", no good comes from them.
>
> Ralf
>
> the directions.
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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You certainly are entitled to have strong feelings about what is happening
in your country, Bob.  I have very strong feelings about the current
situation in my country.

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On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:32 AM Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> I'm fully prepared to compromise just as soon as we've finished hanging
> the ring-leaders.
>
>
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Re: Taking better pictures

2018-11-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have seen a lot of images by Capa, none of which look like a macro was
used.  War photography does not usually lend itself to macro lenses or
extension tubes.

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On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 7:55 AM ann sanfedele  wrote:

> But did he say it when he got a new macro lens??? ;-)
>
> ann
>
> On 11/19/2018 11:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > Robert Capa:  “If your photographs aren't good enough, you're not close
> > enough. ”
> >
> > Of course, Robert Capa was a better photographer than Andre Friedmann.
> 
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:18 PM ann sanfedele 
> wrote:
> >
> >> har!
> >> ann
> >>
> >> On 11/19/2018 4:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>> Everyone with a new macro lens.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:26 PM Daniel J. Matyola <
> danmaty...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>  Who said "If your photos aren't good enough, you are not close
> enough"?
> 
>  Dan Matyola
>  http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
>  On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 3:03 PM Ken Waller 
> >> wrote:
> > "Want to take better pictures?"
> > "Aim at better stuff".
> >
> >
> > I found these profound words of wisdom in a National Geographic
> > 'Expedition
> > Photography' brochure hyping their 2019-2020 Photo Expeditions.
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Re: PESO -- Abandoned and Forlorn

2018-11-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My Rotary Club collects used bikes to be rehabilitated and shipped overseas
for people in need of transportation.http://www.p4p.org/

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On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM John  wrote:

> Compelling image. Looks like a nice bike ... or was.
>
> Used to be someone from the city/town/county would come around every so
> often
> and collect up all the lost/abandoned bikes and take them to a central
> "Lost and
> Found" where they could be reclaimed. If they weren't reclaimed after 90
> days or
> so, they were auctioned off at the end of the year.
>
> When I was a kid, I got my first bicycle from one of those auctions.
>
> On 11/19/2018 19:30, P. J. Alling wrote:
> > When I was a child if my bicycle disappeared my parents would have asked
> what
> > happened to it, and I didn't know I would have been devastated.
> Apparently this
> > isn't true anymore since the kid who owned this just left it here at the
> > beginning of summer...
> >
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Re: Taking better pictures

2018-11-20 Thread Larry Colen




ann sanfedele wrote on 11/20/18 4:54 AM:

But did he say it when he got a new macro lens??? ;-)


Probably a few weeks after.



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Re: PESO -- Abandoned and Forlorn

2018-11-20 Thread John

Compelling image. Looks like a nice bike ... or was.

Used to be someone from the city/town/county would come around every so often 
and collect up all the lost/abandoned bikes and take them to a central "Lost and 
Found" where they could be reclaimed. If they weren't reclaimed after 90 days or 
so, they were auctioned off at the end of the year.


When I was a kid, I got my first bicycle from one of those auctions.

On 11/19/2018 19:30, P. J. Alling wrote:
When I was a child if my bicycle disappeared my parents would have asked what 
happened to it, and I didn't know I would have been devastated. Apparently this 
isn't true anymore since the kid who owned this just left it here at the 
beginning of summer...


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Re: Taking better pictures

2018-11-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 7:55 AM ann sanfedele  wrote:
>
> But did he say it when he got a new macro lens??? ;-)

No but close enough.:-)

Dave
>
> ann
>
> On 11/19/2018 11:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > Robert Capa:  “If your photographs aren't good enough, you're not close
> > enough. ”
> >
> > Of course, Robert Capa was a better photographer than Andre Friedmann.  
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:18 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >
> >> har!
> >> ann
> >>
> >> On 11/19/2018 4:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> >>> Everyone with a new macro lens.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:26 PM Daniel J. Matyola 
> >> wrote:
>  Who said "If your photos aren't good enough, you are not close enough"?
> 
>  Dan Matyola
>  http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
>  On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 3:03 PM Ken Waller 
> >> wrote:
> > "Want to take better pictures?"
> > "Aim at better stuff".
> >
> >
> > I found these profound words of wisdom in a National Geographic
> > 'Expedition
> > Photography' brochure hyping their 2019-2020 Photo Expeditions.
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Re: Taking better pictures

2018-11-20 Thread ann sanfedele

But did he say it when he got a new macro lens??? ;-)

ann

On 11/19/2018 11:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Robert Capa:  “If your photographs aren't good enough, you're not close
enough. ”

Of course, Robert Capa was a better photographer than Andre Friedmann.  

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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 10:18 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:


har!
ann

On 11/19/2018 4:35 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Everyone with a new macro lens.


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:26 PM Daniel J. Matyola 

wrote:

Who said "If your photos aren't good enough, you are not close enough"?

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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 3:03 PM Ken Waller 

wrote:

"Want to take better pictures?"
"Aim at better stuff".


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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 20.11.18 um 11:06 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


We should never have had the referendum in the first place. Absurd in a 
parliamentary democracy.


This whole mess goes a long way in explaining why right-wing populists 
all across Europe are calling for referendums as a general means of 
"giving people a vote".


From Brexit to minaret bans and the abolition of the radio license fee 
as a means of reigning in the "lying" public media "infested by 
left-wing ideas", no good comes from them.


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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 19/11/18, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>if there's another referendum

Not a chance.

If there were, I think we would see civil disorder on or above the scale of the 
poll tax riots.

We should never have had the referendum in the first place. Absurd in a 
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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 19/11/18, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

> I'm a mild-mannered sort of chap, but I'd to see the whole fucking lot
>of them hanging from lampposts in Parliament Square. In the name of
>tolerance and democracy.

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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread Chris Mitchell
I agree with everything Bob says.

Chris

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 23:03 Bob W-PDML 
> > On 19 Nov 2018, at 11:57, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> >
> > On 18/11/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >> I am not inviting a political debate or discussion, but from this side
> of
> >> the pond, it appears that the political system of the UK i coming apart
> at
> >> the seams over Brexit.  I'm certain it is stressful and discomforting
> for
> >> everyone over there.
> >>
> >> Being a Brit these days must be almost as uncomfortable as being a
> devotee
> >> of a camera brand that is being deserted by the company that now owns
> the
> >> brand,
> >
> > Haha. Yep we're all just stopping in our tracks and imploding on the
> sidewalks. The mess is bearable as long as you've got surgical gowns on.
> >
> > Everyone is just going about their daily business and nothing has
> changed. The future will prove interesting for us - there will doubtless be
> a general election  announced in the coming days - Theresa May will not be
> able to get her Brexit bill through parliament, kicking off no-confidence
> vote, and leading to the inevitable. What happens then is anyone's guess.
> >
> > We're British - we're more interested in the weather.
> >
>
> Well, if you can bear it take a look at the Brexit-related comments on
> some of the BBC forums - I'm sure weather forums are not like that. The
> whole thing is a collective descent into madness. There is no reasoned
> discussion, and the reason the Leave won and Remain lost is that Leave
> played on the emotional aspects of it all, while Leave tried to play to
> reason. But it is not an issue where reason really matters for most people
> - I for one am pro-Europe by emotion at least as much as I am by reason.
> What it means is that the arguments are simply playground mud-slinging and
> very tiresome once you're past the initial entertainment of it all.
>
> The problem is, if there's another referendum and Remain wins, the Leave
> camp will never shut up, they will beaver away obsessively just as they did
> after the 1974 referendum, with their lies and prejudices and bigotry. If
> Leave win I suspect Remain will accept that the war is over and the bad
> guys won. I did march in favour of another referendum a couple of weeks
> ago, with 700,000 others - I don't think we'll get one, but I think it's
> important to make our voice heard because there is a real slide towards
> tyranny of the majority, and the notion of winner takes all, even though
> the Leave majority was less than 4%. It's a very worrying slide.
>
> The other thing is that if we do indeed leave it will be the leave voters
> who suffer from the economic consequences, not the leaders of the Leave
> movement, who are feathering their own nests and intend to strip the
> workers of their rights as soon as they get the chance, or the middle-class
> oldies like me. They are robber barons of the worst sort, lying, conniving
> little shits who've used people to further their own interests. I'm a
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> hanging from lampposts in Parliament Square. In the name of tolerance and
> democracy.
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Re: OT: Is the UK Imploding?

2018-11-20 Thread Bob W-PDML
I'm fully prepared to compromise just as soon as we've finished hanging the 
ring-leaders.

> On 20 Nov 2018, at 00:24, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Tell us what you really think Bob;  don't hold back.  
> 
> I read the BBC online, the Economist on paper and online, and other British
> media online.  It is the very passion and venom that I was finding there
> that led me to this post.  I can understand, and to some extent appreciate,
> the points of view of both sides.  I am troubled most by the fact that it
> seems compromise has become as loathsome a concept to many in Britain as it
> is to much of the US.
> 
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> 
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 6:03 PM Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Well, if you can bear it take a look at the Brexit-related comments on
>> some of the BBC forums - I'm sure weather forums are not like that. The
>> whole thing is a collective descent into madness. There is no reasoned
>> discussion, and the reason the Leave won and Remain lost is that Leave
>> played on the emotional aspects of it all, while Leave tried to play to
>> reason. But it is not an issue where reason really matters for most people
>> - I for one am pro-Europe by emotion at least as much as I am by reason.
>> What it means is that the arguments are simply playground mud-slinging and
>> very tiresome once you're past the initial entertainment of it all.
>> 
>> The problem is, if there's another referendum and Remain wins, the Leave
>> camp will never shut up, they will beaver away obsessively just as they did
>> after the 1974 referendum, with their lies and prejudices and bigotry. If
>> Leave win I suspect Remain will accept that the war is over and the bad
>> guys won. I did march in favour of another referendum a couple of weeks
>> ago, with 700,000 others - I don't think we'll get one, but I think it's
>> important to make our voice heard because there is a real slide towards
>> tyranny of the majority, and the notion of winner takes all, even though
>> the Leave majority was less than 4%. It's a very worrying slide.
>> 
>> The other thing is that if we do indeed leave it will be the leave voters
>> who suffer from the economic consequences, not the leaders of the Leave
>> movement, who are feathering their own nests and intend to strip the
>> workers of their rights as soon as they get the chance, or the middle-class
>> oldies like me. They are robber barons of the worst sort, lying, conniving
>> little shits who've used people to further their own interests. I'm a
>> mild-mannered sort of chap, but I'd to see the whole fucking lot of them
>> hanging from lampposts in Parliament Square. In the name of tolerance and
>> democracy.
>> 
>> 
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