Re: PESO: Rediscovering the K-7

[Alan C]

Exactly my thoughts too. I added quite a few thousand actuations to the 
K7 before replacing it with the K5 which allows practical TAV mode with 
its improved sensor. The new owner of the K7 happily shoots almost 
exclusively in the Kruger Park where there never seems to be a problem 
with light. Too harsh most of the time actually.


Alan C

On 05-Dec-20 09:58 PM, Mark C wrote:
I shot more images with my K7 than any DSLR before or since, and at 
the time I was very happy with its performance. It was a step up from 
the K10D it replaced and much better than slide film for what I was 
doing back then. Not great above ISO 400 but I was delighted to be 
able to get good results at ISO 400... The K5 really re-set my 
expectations, though.


Mark





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Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

[Larry Colen]

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> 
> Life is too short to waste on ranting about sucky things. :\

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Re: December PUG is up

[David J Brooks]

Nikon has all my cormorant shots . Sorry gang for not able too add the
second

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 8:21 AM Mark Roberts 
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> Only one cormorant???
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Re: December PUG is up

[Rick Womer]

Really nice gallery again. My favorite is Toine’s; the minimalism really works 
wonderfully.

Rick

> On Dec 4, 2020, at 6:33 PM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Biggest gallery of the year - a great way to end 2020.  It's been a 
> challenging
> time for everyone so let's hope for a better 2021 with lots more photo
> opportunities.
> 
> 19 submissions this month with some great images - Paul's "To the Heavens" and
> Ralf's "Shipspotting" are personal faves.  Amazingly, we only have a single
> cormorant!!
> 
> View the December gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> Next up: 'Weather'.
> 
> Note that increased image sizes are now permitted - 500 kb max file size and
> 1350 x 950 pixels max image dimensions. Full Submissions Guidelines are here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Brian
> ++
> Brian Walters
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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I also developed a fondness for Carneros wines.

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> On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:24:27PM -0500, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
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> >
> > Larry, while I love California and over the years we've enjoyed most of
> its
> > wine regions, this particular wine appears to be available in TX stores:
> > https://specsonline.com/shop/wine/beringer-sonoma-pinot-noir/
> > (This is a TX analogue of BevMo)
>
> I love living in California!
>
> Admittedly growing up in the UK wasn't bad - French wines were available
> in the stores at reasonable prices.  I acquired a taste for Burgundies
> (and especially Nuits St. Georges - my best experience was spotting a
> bottle of the 1969 vintage mixed in with (and priced as) a shelf full
> of the 1970s at an off-licence (US: liquor store) when I stopped off
> on my way to a party to pick up something.
>
> When I moved out to California I soon found the Sonoma Pinots (and, in
> particular, those from the Carneros sub-region) were more to my taste
> than those from Napa.  But perhaps a decade ago I came across the Santa
> Lucia Highlands wineries, and in particular Morgan Winery.
>
> Mind you, it's hard to go wrong anywhere on the California or Oregon
> coast if you're looking for Pinots.
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Re: OT steak and potatoes

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On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:24:27PM -0500, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
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> 
> Larry, while I love California and over the years we've enjoyed most of its
> wine regions, this particular wine appears to be available in TX stores:
> https://specsonline.com/shop/wine/beringer-sonoma-pinot-noir/
> (This is a TX analogue of BevMo)

I love living in California!

Admittedly growing up in the UK wasn't bad - French wines were available
in the stores at reasonable prices.  I acquired a taste for Burgundies
(and especially Nuits St. Georges - my best experience was spotting a
bottle of the 1969 vintage mixed in with (and priced as) a shelf full
of the 1970s at an off-licence (US: liquor store) when I stopped off
on my way to a party to pick up something.

When I moved out to California I soon found the Sonoma Pinots (and, in
particular, those from the Carneros sub-region) were more to my taste
than those from Napa.  But perhaps a decade ago I came across the Santa
Lucia Highlands wineries, and in particular Morgan Winery.

Mind you, it's hard to go wrong anywhere on the California or Oregon
coast if you're looking for Pinots.

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Re: PESO Painted bird

[mike wilson]

I wondered about that as well but I think it would have taken the feathers out, 
if not the wing off.
> On 05 December 2020 at 16:16 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Paint Ball Gun?
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 05-Dec-20 06:08 PM, Toine wrote:
> > No idea. Maybe a fresh painted pole. At first I suspected the lens but the
> > green spot is in all the shots.
> >
> > On Sat, 5 Dec 2020, 15:58 Daniel J. Matyola,  wrote:
> >
> >> Great shot!
> >>
> >> Do you have any idea how it got "painted"?
> >>
> >> Dan Matyola
> >> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> >> *
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 9:13 AM Toine  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Actually a common kestrel with green paint under its wing:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-998-img3989

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Re: PESO Painted bird

[John]

If researchers needed a temporary way of marking adult birds, something like a 
paint ball might work. It would be a lot less stressful for the bird than 
repeated captures to read the information on the leg band.


Thinking about it though, capturing, marking with a non-toxic paint & releasing 
might be what they're doing.


On 12/5/2020 13:50:18, Toine wrote:

That would require capture and manual handling of the birds. A
permanent marking is ringing. Birds of prey are ringed in the nest if
I remember correctly.
A paint ball would be very strange, why would a sane person shoot
paint balls at a kestrel?
Kestrels like to sit on top of poles etc.

On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 at 19:28, Larry Colen  wrote:





On Dec 5, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Great shot!

Do you have any idea how it got "painted”?


My google fu says that there is some temporary marking of wildlife with
paint.  All the references I found were long technical pdfs.  but it is 
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Re: OT Song for Ashley

[P. J. Alling]

I'm glad you clarified that, because I had no Idea what you were getting 
at...


On 12/5/2020 1:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:38 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:



On December 5, 2020 8:52:43 AM PST, "P. J. Alling"  
wrote:

I get the impression that every new generation thinks they invented
sex,
the young are idiots.

But they perfect being outdoors as they age.

Speaking of being idiots, first I meant to hit the edit button on my phone and 
hit send, then I didn’t notice that I had gotten autocorrected.
That was supposed to be:
But they perfect being idiots as they age.

I seem to be a prime example.



On 12/5/2020 3:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Sorry; I couldn't resist...

https://youtu.be/WIfcKy-VcXo

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PESO 2020 - 272 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I like the lovely interplay of sunlight and shade on the Fall colors of these 
leaves. :)

  Sunlight on the Leaves - Santa Clara 2020 :: https://flic.kr/p/2kdGbu1

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Re: PESO: Rediscovering the K-7

[Mark C]

I shot more images with my K7 than any DSLR before or since, and at the 
time I was very happy with its performance. It was a step up from the 
K10D it replaced and much better than slide film for what I was doing 
back then. Not great above ISO 400 but I was delighted to be able to get 
good results at ISO 400... The K5 really re-set my expectations, though.


Mark



On 12/3/2020 1:53 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

The K-7 and I never really took to each other and I got myself one of
the first K-5 ever sold in town. I hated the K-7's Samsung sensor, the
limited dynamic range and the noise in everything shot at more than 
ISO 100.


Yet, when I look at some of the photos I've taken with it, they have a
special quality about them. A certain crispness, the restrained 
colours...


Maybe the fact that I was less lazy, in those days, and made much more
use of primes, tripods, and low ISOs also has something to do with it.

Just came across this one and thought some of you might like it:

https://www.fotocommunity.com/photo/entre-chien-et-loup-fotoralfbe/44605722 



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Re: PESO: The Last Farewell

[Bob Pdml]

> On 5 Dec 2020, at 18:53, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 05.12.20 um 19:01 schrieb John:
>> Did they have to tow it all the way?
> 
> No, they just towed her into and out of the lock. This is mandatory for
> vessels of this size. She got to India under her own power.
> 
> Others have indeed been towed all the way, some even using tugs which
> were also destined for scrapping.
> 
> The French branch of Robin Wood issue a quarterly document about all
> vessels that have been scrapped in the last months. Makes for some
> interesting reading.
> 
> https://robindesbois.org/en/category/balisage/demolition-des-navires

Small technical point: Robin des Bois is Robin Hood in English. He’s been in 
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Re: PESO Painted bird

[Bob Pdml]

On 5 Dec 2020, at 18:51, Toine  wrote:
> 
> That would require capture and manual handling of the birds. A
> permanent marking is ringing. Birds of prey are ringed in the nest if
> I remember correctly.
> A paint ball would be very strange, why would a sane person shoot
> paint balls at a kestrel?
> Kestrels like to sit on top of poles etc.

So do tin cans. It’s just cruelty. And lack of empathy.


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Re: PESO: The Last Farewell

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 05.12.20 um 19:01 schrieb John:

Did they have to tow it all the way?


No, they just towed her into and out of the lock. This is mandatory for
vessels of this size. She got to India under her own power.

Others have indeed been towed all the way, some even using tugs which
were also destined for scrapping.

The French branch of Robin Wood issue a quarterly document about all
vessels that have been scrapped in the last months. Makes for some
interesting reading.

https://robindesbois.org/en/category/balisage/demolition-des-navires/

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Re: PESO Painted bird

[Toine]

That would require capture and manual handling of the birds. A
permanent marking is ringing. Birds of prey are ringed in the nest if
I remember correctly.
A paint ball would be very strange, why would a sane person shoot
paint balls at a kestrel?
Kestrels like to sit on top of poles etc.

On Sat, 5 Dec 2020 at 19:28, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 5, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> >
> > Great shot!
> >
> > Do you have any idea how it got "painted”?
>
> My google fu says that there is some temporary marking of wildlife with 
> paint.  All the references I found were long technical pdfs.  but it is 
> possible that it was done for research purposes.
>
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Re: Semi-OT: Thunderbird update 78.5.1 is fucked up!

[John]

I think the level of suck Yahoo has descended to must be the other way round. 
Yahoo didn't suck as much before they were acquired.


On 12/4/2020 16:09:45, P. J. Alling wrote:
They were bought by AT which was bought by SBC who then changed their name to 
AT because all of their customers hated them, and now they're in grave 
financial condition...


I like to think Yahoo has something to do with it.

On 12/4/2020 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

John wrote:


Changed the fonts, changed the icons and it keeps trying to force me to log in
to Yahoo.

Once every few years I am reminded, to my complete and utter
astonishment, that Yahoo is actually still in business.





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Re: PESO Sunset Aromas

[Larry Colen]

> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Nice sunsets and some very interesting cloud formations.

Fortunately my boss was understanding when I told him I had to play with my 
camera for a few minutes.

And in case folks didn’t figure it out, the Driscoll’s plant I was at was in 
the town of Aromas, the sunset didn’t have any particular smell.


> 
> Dan Matyola
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> *
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 3:25 AM Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>> Working East of Watsonville the past couple of days I got some photos at
>> sunset
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50681038083/in/album-72157717165764788/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Full set of fluff for those interested:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157717165764788
>> 
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Re: PESO Painted bird

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> On Dec 5, 2020, at 6:57 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Great shot!
> 
> Do you have any idea how it got "painted”?

My google fu says that there is some temporary marking of wildlife with paint.  
All the references I found were long technical pdfs.  but it is possible that 
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Re: OT Song for Ashley

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> On Dec 5, 2020, at 9:38 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On December 5, 2020 8:52:43 AM PST, "P. J. Alling" 
>  wrote:
>> I get the impression that every new generation thinks they invented
>> sex, 
>> the young are idiots.
> 
> But they perfect being outdoors as they age.  

Speaking of being idiots, first I meant to hit the edit button on my phone and 
hit send, then I didn’t notice that I had gotten autocorrected. 
That was supposed to be:
But they perfect being idiots as they age.

I seem to be a prime example.


> 
>> 
>> On 12/5/2020 3:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>> Sorry; I couldn't resist...
>>> 
>>> https://youtu.be/WIfcKy-VcXo
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Re: PESO: The Last Farewell

[John]

Did they have to tow it all the way?

On 12/4/2020 15:17:46, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Ferry Seafrance Cézanne leaving Dunkirk for the scrapyards of Alang,
India, on November 7, 2011.

https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/the-last-farewell-fotoralfbe/44609167

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Re: OT Song for Ashley

[lrc]

On December 5, 2020 8:52:43 AM PST, "P. J. Alling"  
wrote:
>I get the impression that every new generation thinks they invented
>sex, 
>the young are idiots.

But they perfect being outdoors as they age.  

>
>On 12/5/2020 3:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>> Sorry; I couldn't resist...
>>
>> https://youtu.be/WIfcKy-VcXo

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Re: OT Song for Ashley

[lrc]

On December 5, 2020 8:52:43 AM PST, "P. J. Alling"  
wrote:
>I get the impression that every new generation thinks they invented
>sex, 
>the young are idiots.
>
>On 12/5/2020 3:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>> Sorry; I couldn't resist...
>>
>> https://youtu.be/WIfcKy-VcXo
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Another mysterious monolith?

[Bob Pdml]

https://adobe.ly/3os58Na
... or could it be something more mundane?

Learn the shocking truth by clicking on this link, where all will be revealed:
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Re: OT Song for Ashley

[P. J. Alling]

I get the impression that every new generation thinks they invented sex, 
the young are idiots.


On 12/5/2020 3:11 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Sorry; I couldn't resist...

https://youtu.be/WIfcKy-VcXo


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Re: PESO Painted bird

[Alan C]

Paint Ball Gun?

Alan C

On 05-Dec-20 06:08 PM, Toine wrote:

No idea. Maybe a fresh painted pole. At first I suspected the lens but the
green spot is in all the shots.

On Sat, 5 Dec 2020, 15:58 Daniel J. Matyola,  wrote:


Great shot!

Do you have any idea how it got "painted"?

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 9:13 AM Toine  wrote:


Actually a common kestrel with green paint under its wing:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-998-img3989

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Re: PESO Painted bird

[Toine]

No idea. Maybe a fresh painted pole. At first I suspected the lens but the
green spot is in all the shots.

On Sat, 5 Dec 2020, 15:58 Daniel J. Matyola,  wrote:

> Great shot!
>
> Do you have any idea how it got "painted"?
>
> Dan Matyola
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>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 9:13 AM Toine  wrote:
>
> > Actually a common kestrel with green paint under its wing:
> >
> > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-998-img3989
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Re: PESO Sunset Aromas

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice sunsets and some very interesting cloud formations.

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On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 3:25 AM Larry Colen  wrote:

> Working East of Watsonville the past couple of days I got some photos at
> sunset
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50681038083/in/album-72157717165764788/
>
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Re: OT Song for Ashley

[Daniel J. Matyola]

LOL!
What a gem!

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> Sorry; I couldn't resist...
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> https://youtu.be/WIfcKy-VcXo
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Re: PESO Painted bird

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Great shot!

Do you have any idea how it got "painted"?

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On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 9:13 AM Toine  wrote:

> Actually a common kestrel with green paint under its wing:
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PESO Painted bird

[Toine]

Actually a common kestrel with green paint under its wing:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-998-img3989

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Re: OT Song for Ashley

[mike wilson]

Furry friends.

> On 05 December 2020 at 08:18 Bob Pdml  wrote:
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> What were you searching for that came up with that result?
> 
> > On 5 Dec 2020, at 08:13, mike wilson  wrote:
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Re: December PUG is up

[Mark Roberts]

Only one cormorant???

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OT Song for Ashley

[mike wilson]

Sorry; I couldn't resist...

https://youtu.be/WIfcKy-VcXo
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PESO Sunset Aromas

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Working East of Watsonville the past couple of days I got some photos at sunset
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50681038083/in/album-72157717165764788/



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Re: OT Song for Ashley

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What were you searching for that came up with that result?

> On 5 Dec 2020, at 08:13, mike wilson  wrote:
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> Sorry; I couldn't resist...
> 
> https://youtu.be/WIfcKy-VcXo
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