Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread John

On 1/6/2021 18:44:28, John Francis wrote:

On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 06:17:56PM -0500, John wrote:

On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote:

Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been
incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason?

Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely curious.

bill



Technically no. The Constitution defines treason very narrowly and this
doesn't fit within that definition.

OTOH, it's not too late to impeach him again.

And there's a good argument that it may be time for Pence to suck it up and
invoke Clause 4 of the 25th Amendment.



Assuming the response from Trump would be to declare himself to be fit to serve,
to unseat him would require a two-thirds majority in both houses. Is that 
likely?




If the President "transmits a written declaration that no inability exists", the 
Vice President has 4 days to respond. Congress then has 21 days to assemble and 
vote.


Trump only has 14 days left in office.

The clock runs out before a two-thirds majority is required.

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Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
A 2/3 majority opting for impeachment is possible after today. But it would 
require all of the time remaining in Trump’s tenure to achieve. Not worth it. 
He will be ruined and quite possibly go to jail.

Paul

> On Jan 6, 2021, at 6:45 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 06:17:56PM -0500, John wrote:
>>> On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote:
>>> Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been
>>> incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason?
>>> 
>>> Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely curious.
>>> 
>>> bill
>>> 
>> 
>> Technically no. The Constitution defines treason very narrowly and this
>> doesn't fit within that definition.
>> 
>> OTOH, it's not too late to impeach him again.
>> 
>> And there's a good argument that it may be time for Pence to suck it up and
>> invoke Clause 4 of the 25th Amendment.
>> 
> 
> Assuming the response from Trump would be to declare himself to be fit to 
> serve,
> to unseat him would require a two-thirds majority in both houses. Is that 
> likely?
> 
> 
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Re: help with labels

2021-01-06 Thread mike wilson
In LibreOffice Writer, I can use File -> New -> Labels and I get a dialogue box 
that has a dropdown menu for Brand.  In there are templates for Avery letter 
size, including 5160.  Maybe the same route works for OpenOffice?  If not, I've 
saved a document in .odt format and can send it to you.  Not sure it will still 
work as a template, though.  I couldn't find a way to save it in that form.
> On 06 January 2021 at 19:13 ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> 
> I hve open office but really don't know how to make it do what in terms 
> of makign labels... not labels with my name on all of them on a page, 
> but a master that shows
> the outlines of the labels the way they are set up with an avery 
> template 5160... so I can type in whatever I want within the 
> boundaries.  I had these in .doc form over the years
> but I cant see the proper boundaries.  It would save me so much work if 
> I could do it and I don't even remember how to make text boxes.. open 
> office has too many features..
> 
> This must be something that is easy to do if you know how...  The latest 
> version of MS word that I ever used was 97/98 and I kept using it as 
> long as I could..
> I can write letters in open office, notes, etc but can't manage the 
> tables...
> 
> free advice or a free template would be appreciated..
> 
> Thanks much, guys
> 
> ann

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Re: Happy New Year

2021-01-06 Thread mike wilson

> On 06 January 2021 at 17:21 Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 6 Jan 2021, at 16:36, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > And it's not only Russian. The Croats have the wonderful word
> > 'rajsferšlus'. I'll let you guess what that could be...
> 
> I know what that means, but I’ll keep my mouth zipped so others can try...

I'm not very good at translation on the fly.  So I'd better button it.

> 
> This is the sort of thing that makes language so fascinating, particularly 
> when you can trace the ways in which loan words change over centuries.
> 
> https://youtu.be/6MbZjzIg5w8

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Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 06:17:56PM -0500, John wrote:
> On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote:
> > Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been
> > incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason?
> > 
> > Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely curious.
> > 
> > bill
> > 
> 
> Technically no. The Constitution defines treason very narrowly and this
> doesn't fit within that definition.
> 
> OTOH, it's not too late to impeach him again.
> 
> And there's a good argument that it may be time for Pence to suck it up and
> invoke Clause 4 of the 25th Amendment.
> 

Assuming the response from Trump would be to declare himself to be fit to serve,
to unseat him would require a two-thirds majority in both houses. Is that 
likely?


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Re: help with labels

2021-01-06 Thread John
FWIW, if anyone else has the problem, I found a 5160 template in Open 
Office/LibreOffice 6.1 native ".ott" format.


"Avery_5160.ott"

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29=98414

It was in the 6th response down.


On 1/6/2021 17:51:40, ann sanfedele wrote:

Mike - what you sent the second time did the trick... as I wrote off list

writing this response to list to save other possible helpers some work :-)

You're the best

ann

On 1/6/2021 3:49 PM, mike wilson wrote:
In LibreOffice Writer, I can use File -> New -> Labels and I get a dialogue 
box that has a dropdown menu for Brand.  In there are templates for Avery 
letter size, including 5160.  Maybe the same route works for OpenOffice?  If 
not, I've saved a document in .odt format and can send it to you.  Not sure it 
will still work as a template, though.  I couldn't find a way to save it in 
that form.

On 06 January 2021 at 19:13 ann sanfedele  wrote:


I hve open office but really don't know how to make it do what in terms
of makign labels... not labels with my name on all of them on a page,
but a master that shows
the outlines of the labels the way they are set up with an avery
template 5160... so I can type in whatever I want within the
boundaries.  I had these in .doc form over the years
but I cant see the proper boundaries.  It would save me so much work if
I could do it and I don't even remember how to make text boxes.. open
office has too many features..

This must be something that is easy to do if you know how...  The latest
version of MS word that I ever used was 97/98 and I kept using it as
long as I could..
I can write letters in open office, notes, etc but can't manage the
tables...

free advice or a free template would be appreciated..

Thanks much, guys

ann





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Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread John

On 1/6/2021 17:08:28, Bill wrote:

Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been
incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason?

Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely curious.

bill



Technically no. The Constitution defines treason very narrowly and this doesn't 
fit within that definition.


OTOH, it's not too late to impeach him again.

And there's a good argument that it may be time for Pence to suck it up and 
invoke Clause 4 of the 25th Amendment.


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Re: help with labels

2021-01-06 Thread ann sanfedele

Mike - what you sent the second time did the trick... as I wrote off list

writing this response to list to save other possible helpers some work :-)

You're the best

ann

On 1/6/2021 3:49 PM, mike wilson wrote:

In LibreOffice Writer, I can use File -> New -> Labels and I get a dialogue box 
that has a dropdown menu for Brand.  In there are templates for Avery letter size, 
including 5160.  Maybe the same route works for OpenOffice?  If not, I've saved a 
document in .odt format and can send it to you.  Not sure it will still work as a 
template, though.  I couldn't find a way to save it in that form.

On 06 January 2021 at 19:13 ann sanfedele  wrote:


I hve open office but really don't know how to make it do what in terms
of makign labels... not labels with my name on all of them on a page,
but a master that shows
the outlines of the labels the way they are set up with an avery
template 5160... so I can type in whatever I want within the
boundaries.  I had these in .doc form over the years
but I cant see the proper boundaries.  It would save me so much work if
I could do it and I don't even remember how to make text boxes.. open
office has too many features..

This must be something that is easy to do if you know how...  The latest
version of MS word that I ever used was 97/98 and I kept using it as
long as I could..
I can write letters in open office, notes, etc but can't manage the
tables...

free advice or a free template would be appreciated..

Thanks much, guys

ann


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Re: #45

2021-01-06 Thread lrc
I read an argument that it would be sedition not treason based on the 
definitions.

On January 6, 2021 2:08:28 PM PST, Bill  wrote:
>Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has
>been
>incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason?
>
>Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely
>curious.
>
>bill
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#45

2021-01-06 Thread Bill
Given the brouhaha going on in DC at the moment and the fact it has been
incited by #45, does what he has done constitute treason?

Note, let's not get ourselves exercised about this. I am genuinely curious.

bill
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Re: Happy New Year

2021-01-06 Thread mike wilson


> On 06 January 2021 at 15:12 Boris Liberman  wrote:

> Beside learning Russian alphabet - did you go further? When we met, 15
> years ago, I don't recall you trying to say anything in Russian. Not in our
> presence, at least.

>From my visits in the early 2000s, I managed to pick up a little of the 
>language.  Intriguing to know that the words that don't sound like their 
>English equivalent often sound rather like their Polish equivalent.  I was 
>feeling quite pleased with my progress.  Then I was introduced to Russian 
>handwriting...
https://www.thepoke.co.uk/2020/07/27/russian-cursive-got-people-amazed/

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help with labels

2021-01-06 Thread ann sanfedele
I hve open office but really don't know how to make it do what in terms 
of makign labels... not labels with my name on all of them on a page, 
but a master that shows
the outlines of the labels the way they are set up with an avery 
template 5160... so I can type in whatever I want within the 
boundaries.  I had these in .doc form over the years
but I cant see the proper boundaries.  It would save me so much work if 
I could do it and I don't even remember how to make text boxes.. open 
office has too many features..


This must be something that is easy to do if you know how...  The latest 
version of MS word that I ever used was 97/98 and I kept using it as 
long as I could..
I can write letters in open office, notes, etc but can't manage the 
tables...


free advice or a free template would be appreciated..

Thanks much, guys

ann

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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

2021-01-06 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 06.01.21 um 18:07 schrieb John:

Does Lightroom take external third party plugins? (Like the Nik Filters
I have for PHotoshop).


ON1 have a selection of plugins for Lightroom and Photoshop.

I vaguely remember that, when I installed ON1 Photo RAW, it added some
plugins to my LR6. Never used them though.


Would it be possible to purchase an individual license for a facial
recognition plugin that would work with Lightroom?


Ask Adobe where they got theirs from... ;-)

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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

2021-01-06 Thread Larry Colen


> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:07 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> Does Lightroom take external third party plugins? (Like the Nik Filters I 
> have for PHotoshop).

Yes it does.


> 
> Would it be possible to purchase an individual license for a facial 
> recognition plugin that would work with Lightroom?

If the facial recognition feature just went away, that would be fine. The 
problem was not just that it crashed Lightroom, but that it crashed it in such 
a way that I couldn’t start it up, even in another catalog.

I’ve started looking at darktable. It’s interesting that it uses Lua, the same 
scripting language as lightroom.


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Re: Happy New Year

2021-01-06 Thread Bob Pdml

> On 6 Jan 2021, at 16:36, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> 
> And it's not only Russian. The Croats have the wonderful word
> 'rajsferšlus'. I'll let you guess what that could be...

I know what that means, but I’ll keep my mouth zipped so others can try...

This is the sort of thing that makes language so fascinating, particularly when 
you can trace the ways in which loan words change over centuries.

https://youtu.be/6MbZjzIg5w8


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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

2021-01-06 Thread Bill

On 1/6/2021 11:07 AM, John wrote:
Does Lightroom take external third party plugins? (Like the Nik Filters 
I have for PHotoshop? >
Would it be possible to purchase an individual license for a facial 
recognition plugin that would work with Lightroom?


Not a clue on both counts. I don't use Lightroom for much other than 
cataloging. If I have any image processing to do, I send to Photoshop 
and do it there.


bill




On 1/5/2021 13:39:29, Bill wrote:
Apparently, facial recognition, among other things is a third party 
plug-in

that is no longer  licensed.

bill

On Tue., Jan. 5, 2021, 10:48 a.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:


This morning I tried starting up lightroom from another account on my
computer, and it worked.

I had to piff pretty much everything except the the lrcat file
including the SLCache and SLStore files in /Library/Application
support/Adobe/Lightroom
start it up, enter my serial number, then enter the serial number of a
previous version, the warning message is really obtuse about that

if you start facial recognition in anything, the next time adobe 
starts it

will start in facial recognition mode and immediately crash.

At least I can access my existing files, time to start checking out
darktable and dxo


On Jan 5, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing

some facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any
catalog. I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling
things, rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it
still won’t even start up without crashing.


I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up

for the switchover.



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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

2021-01-06 Thread John
Does Lightroom take external third party plugins? (Like the Nik Filters I have 
for PHotoshop).


Would it be possible to purchase an individual license for a facial recognition 
plugin that would work with Lightroom?



On 1/5/2021 13:39:29, Bill wrote:

Apparently, facial recognition, among other things is a third party plug-in
that is no longer  licensed.

bill

On Tue., Jan. 5, 2021, 10:48 a.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:


This morning I tried starting up lightroom from another account on my
computer, and it worked.

I had to piff pretty much everything except the the lrcat file
including the SLCache and SLStore files in /Library/Application
support/Adobe/Lightroom
start it up, enter my serial number, then enter the serial number of a
previous version, the warning message is really obtuse about that

if you start facial recognition in anything, the next time adobe starts it
will start in facial recognition mode and immediately crash.

At least I can access my existing files, time to start checking out
darktable and dxo


On Jan 5, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing

some facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any
catalog. I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling
things, rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it
still won’t even start up without crashing.


I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up

for the switchover.



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Re: PESO Wooden boulders

2021-01-06 Thread Henk Terhell
Nice picture, quite an abundance of reindeer moss, probably Cladonia 
portentosa.

Img4464 shows a variety of moss species.

Henk

Op 2021-01-05 om 20:41 schreef Toine:

>From a distance they looked like white boulders:
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-031-img4458

Closeups of the reindeer moss
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-030-img4451
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-026-img4464

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Re: Happy New Year

2021-01-06 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 06.01.21 um 16:47 schrieb mike wilson:


From my visits in the early 2000s, I managed to pick up a little of the 
language.


The thing that strikes me most about Russian is the incredible amount of
German loan words.

I had a hearty laugh when I found out that my Russian weather fax
receiver had a built-in reference oscillator referred to as the
"kamertonskiy generator" (if my latin transcription is correct). Just
recently, I've seen tramlines in Russia referred to as "marshrut",
obviously our German Marschroute, i.e. a marching route.

And it's not only Russian. The Croats have the wonderful word
'rajsferšlus'. I'll let you guess what that could be...

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Modern variety of a rental photo studio

2021-01-06 Thread Igor PDML-StR



They call it "Selfie museum":
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Re: Happy New Year

2021-01-06 Thread Bob Pdml

> On 6 Jan 2021, at 15:13, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> 
> Well, Bob.
> 
> [...]
> Beside learning Russian alphabet - did you go further? When we met, 15
> years ago, I don't recall you trying to say anything in Russian. Not in our
> presence, at least.

I did about 3 months of study at beginner level. I was about twenty years old 
at the time so by the time we met I had forgotten almost everything - I would 
have embarrassed myself if I’d tried to say anything.

I learned it because I was working at the British Library and they needed 
people to work in the Russian scientific and technical section so they trawled 
their records for linguistics and found me. I was happy to do it because my 
girlfriend was half Russian (half Georgian to be precise), but they didn’t want 
to teach us much beyond the basics, and I left fairly soon anyway. 


> 
> Boris
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 7:14 PM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> 
 On 3 Jan 2021, at 16:26, Boris Liberman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Normans (who spoke Old French) almost killed English. I think it was
>> late
>>> Old English or something.
>>> 
>>> But indeed many words in modern English that seem to be of Latin origin,
>>> actually came via French speaking Normans.
>>> 
>>> I still struggle with the fact that my native Russian is based on
>>> inflections, and for some reason, your ancient predecessors, Bob,
>>> determined that wasn't their way :-).
>>> 
>>> And man, do I hate articles :-).
>> 
>> Latin is an inflected language - I learned that from age 11 to 18.
>> Functionally English achieves the same thing with word order and
>> prepositions.
>> 
>> I mentioned before that I’ve recently started to learn modern Greek, which
>> is also inflected, though less so than Ancient Greek and Latin. I’m very
>> glad that I learned an inflected language when I was quite young, and also
>> a different alphabet (Russian) when I was about twenty as I think it must
>> be exceptionally difficult for an adult English speaker to learn something
>> like Greek or Russian as their first foreign language as you have so many
>> new concepts to learn before you can really get on with learning the
>> language itself.
>> 
>> Greek uses its articles more than English does...!
>> 
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Re: Happy New Year

2021-01-06 Thread Boris Liberman
Well, Bob.

Russian has no articles. Hebrew has the equivalent of the article 'the'
only. English - you know better than me :-).

Just point in case. The above sentence about Hebrew was originally "Hebrew
has equivalent of article 'the'". Google told me that I was missing two
"the"s...

My reasoning behind not putting them was that I wasn't referring to
anything from the previous text and it is kind of obvious what's the
subject, so I thought - article isn't needed. As usual - I was quite wrong.
Twice wrong in fact and these two wrongs don't make for one right.

I am glad I know three very different languages. I wish I knew Hebrew
better but it so happened that I can't write and my reading is very slow. I
did not read any books in Hebrew, so my spoken language is rather simple
too. Hopefully I could say "yet", though I am not planning on any such
activity in the immediate future. Of course "know" is flexible, because I
still cannot write a screenful of English text without missing a bunch of
articles, but it's the journey that matters, not the destination, right?

Beside learning Russian alphabet - did you go further? When we met, 15
years ago, I don't recall you trying to say anything in Russian. Not in our
presence, at least.

Boris

On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 7:14 PM Bob Pdml  wrote:

>
> > On 3 Jan 2021, at 16:26, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> >
> > Normans (who spoke Old French) almost killed English. I think it was
> late
> > Old English or something.
> >
> > But indeed many words in modern English that seem to be of Latin origin,
> > actually came via French speaking Normans.
> >
> > I still struggle with the fact that my native Russian is based on
> > inflections, and for some reason, your ancient predecessors, Bob,
> > determined that wasn't their way :-).
> >
> > And man, do I hate articles :-).
>
> Latin is an inflected language - I learned that from age 11 to 18.
> Functionally English achieves the same thing with word order and
> prepositions.
>
> I mentioned before that I’ve recently started to learn modern Greek, which
> is also inflected, though less so than Ancient Greek and Latin. I’m very
> glad that I learned an inflected language when I was quite young, and also
> a different alphabet (Russian) when I was about twenty as I think it must
> be exceptionally difficult for an adult English speaker to learn something
> like Greek or Russian as their first foreign language as you have so many
> new concepts to learn before you can really get on with learning the
> language itself.
>
> Greek uses its articles more than English does...!
>
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Re: PESO Wooden boulders

2021-01-06 Thread ann sanfedele
I know that stuff from a visit to Alaska.. particularly like the first 
shot..  at first glance it looks like frost or snow covering the stump..


ann


On 1/5/2021 2:41 PM, Toine wrote:

>From a distance they looked like white boulders:
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-031-img4458

Closeups of the reindeer moss
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-030-img4451
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-026-img4464

Toine



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